It's an epic climb! The view at Windy Point and at some of the other lookout points is worth it all. And it rivals the highest "cols" of the Alps! But is usually warmer. 🙂 The change in flora all along the way as we gain height is an enjoyable experience. Starting among a forest of cacti, and ending in a forest of pine trees, and a cookie, what else could you wish for?
Certainly, when it's a bit hotter lower air density will give you a few 10s of seconds. More important, the sun heating up the road will reduce the tire rolling resistance significantly - worth maybe a minute. Also, very important to increase the pressure in rear tire by 10-15 psi to compensate for increased weight over tire and change in rolling resistance at lower speed (it's a thing). Might also want to tilt saddle by an angle similar to the grade and bring it a bit forward to put yourself in your optimum power position (this is optional and worth experimenting with). A good day when it's hotter but not too hot, and tackling the climb in the later afternoon or evening when the road surface has heated should easily get you over the KOM.
beautiful drone footage, just need somme tweaking in your voiceover and this is a real good content. Also would love to see how much you tilt your handlebar.
Hi!! I'm Andrea, cyclist from Italy. Compliments. Favoulous number in watt and cadence. Do you usually before this "race" to try to beat a KOM some supplements pre race? Something like jack3d or something like that? Thanks for the advice
I think FTP is probably 380-390 at sea level. I’m not sure how much I’d lose to altitude, it’s hard to say when you’re constantly increasing, but a guess would be something like 5%
@@yuva I tried using a product called carbolift that’s supposed to remove the paint, but it only removed one layer, so then I just went to town with sandpaper. I finished it with a clear coat.
@@DrakeDeuel I can only imagine, also don't come back to golden, CO for like the next 15 years.. working on trynna get anywhere near that lookout mtn KOM bahaha, cheers!
@@DrakeDeuel Corsa Speed 2 or the Schwalbe TT TLE would have given you a few more seconds...though one puncture could end the day, not sure about the helmet choice...ever gone to Jim Manton for a fit or aero consult? Great effort, once again broke the CookieMan : )
I chose the Schwalbe tires because they’re easily available on Amazon. I’ve used the Vitoria Corsa speeds before, but the differences are pretty marginal. I train on the same setup, so it has to be puncture resilient. The team I’m on is sponsored by POC, that’s the main reason for the helmet.
Great effort. Not a criticism but It seems you were dropping your right hip as fatigue accumulated (at the end, I know this climb). Maybe a slightly too tall saddle height?
Thanks for the feedback. I adjust my position frequently. I just moved my right cleat in a couple days before this, but I’ll probably move it back out to get my foot closer to the crank. I think that might help. My left glute was sore at the end of the ride which is probably a symptom.
Dropping down from 160mm to 140mm rotors wouldn’t hurt. Lighter, more aero, and most importantly less brake pad rub as less impacted by lateral force deflection.... you’re welcome! Now get up here and race Chowchilla on 4/3 😁
Lionel is a great cyclist as a triathlete. His w/kg on climbs is not elite in the pro peloton. There are 200 pro and conti cyclists who could take that.
@@dsmc80 he is the holder of the Canadian hour record, which has nothing to do with triathlon. how many pro cyclist can sustain more than 51km/h? He has also taken KOMs from several pros.
@@fritsgerms3565 He is indeed the holder of that record. Plenty of pros can do that, but most don't care to. Those KOMs he took were from pro cyclists on training rides. Look, he will kill them at SBR. Im a triathlete and I love Lionel and follow him. I just don't get why triathletes can't acknowledge that he's an uber triathlon biker and probably would be pack fodder in a cycling race as a best case scenario. Zwift for an hour is Zwift for an hour...it is far from a real race. If there were a fraction of the European world tour or pro conti guys in Arizona they would smash him.
@@dsmc80 well, as someone that's into cycling, if you can take down Jens Voigt record, then you a darn good cyclist. I have no idea what benchmark you're using to distinguish between amateur vs pro in cycling, but it seems way off. Most pros (worldtour) cannot sustain a 51Km/h for an hour alone. And it's not they don't care to, it's because most can't. A sprinter is a sprinter. a climber is a climber. a classic rider is very different from a GC rider, a domestique often share qualities with TT specialist, but are nevertheless different. And there are tremendous bragging rights for the hour record, so only those who think they have a shot at it, actually tries. What makes you think that Canadian cyclists would not love to have the hour record on their name? It's essential to have as many prestigious accomplishments on your CV in pro sports.
@@fritsgerms3565 Again Lionel is good. He better be able to take Jens' record though. He was an end of career 40 year old domestique with older technology; tyres, bike, fabric, bars, wheels, helmet, positional knowledge, etc. Jens gave up 50 watts in aero. Yes, there are plenty of types of riders. These attempts take sponsor and team money. Pros are paid to race and are rarely allowed to do these stunts. I bet Ed V. could still retake the Canadian record now.
Great video and awesome effort. Cyclists can scoff at Lionel but until they can knock off this KOM and the Canadian hour record, I think his athleticism speaks for itself. His bike handling skills are still questionable. Lol
2 minutes and 17 seconds for a over 21 miles effort...basically you are less than 6.5 seconds per mile slower...easily overcome by better wind/weather situation...just saying.
Nice work, Drake! A huge improvement from last years wattage. Keep the videos coming!
Wow Drake amazing effort. Very good video with the mix of commentary and music!
Great video! Only a matter of time before you blow up with content this good!
Great ride, I live in Tucson and I love that people come so far to ride Mt Lemmon. Im hoping they repave the road. It’s in rough shape.
It's an epic climb! The view at Windy Point and at some of the other lookout points is worth it all. And it rivals the highest "cols" of the Alps! But is usually warmer. 🙂 The change in flora all along the way as we gain height is an enjoyable experience. Starting among a forest of cacti, and ending in a forest of pine trees, and a cookie, what else could you wish for?
I fainted when I saw "cracked 8k feet”... lol... great job... 🙌🏽
Jesus that looks painful, great video man.
Nice job! I like the poc aero lid😎
Certainly, when it's a bit hotter lower air density will give you a few 10s of seconds. More important, the sun heating up the road will reduce the tire rolling resistance significantly - worth maybe a minute. Also, very important to increase the pressure in rear tire by 10-15 psi to compensate for increased weight over tire and change in rolling resistance at lower speed (it's a thing). Might also want to tilt saddle by an angle similar to the grade and bring it a bit forward to put yourself in your optimum power position (this is optional and worth experimenting with). A good day when it's hotter but not too hot, and tackling the climb in the later afternoon or evening when the road surface has heated should easily get you over the KOM.
Well done!
Bruutal! What a huge send!
you crushed it!
Definitely deserves more subscribers overhere, the quality is amazing. Without looking at the subs thought you had like 100k+. Keep on the good work
Agreed! Definitely high quality video content.
Man you push awesome power!!. Do you live in LA? MAybe once pandemic is over and I'm in town we could do for a spin? :) Thanks for posting
A look at the bike and kit you are using would be a good vid!
beautiful drone footage, just need somme tweaking in your voiceover and this is a real good content. Also would love to see how much you tilt your handlebar.
Hi!! I'm Andrea, cyclist from Italy. Compliments. Favoulous number in watt and cadence. Do you usually before this "race" to try to beat a KOM some supplements pre race? Something like jack3d or something like that? Thanks for the advice
DRAKE DRAKE DRAKE!!! 5 percent not too steep!
Continue to keep your feet grounded. Really enjoy your laid-back attitude, work ethic and drive. Do you race?
Yep, I’m signed up for a couple races in April
You're a monster! Come to Vancouver BC and snipe the 2 HC KOMs here!
Nice, sounding a bit more natural on the voice over, filming and music is smooth
What Chainring you use most in this effort, big or small! Nice video as always
I think that I was in the 36 inner ring for most of the climb except a few fast flat/downhill sections
Another great video, but your audio came out really quiet relative to the other sounds in the video.
Noted thanks, still figuring this stuff out.
Oof! Come back in 2 months? It' gonna be too hot.
Drake what's your background?
First song is called “More Time”. Second song is called “Anywhen you say”
What is your FTP at sea level? And how much power do you reckon you lost to altitude?
I think FTP is probably 380-390 at sea level. I’m not sure how much I’d lose to altitude, it’s hard to say when you’re constantly increasing, but a guess would be something like 5%
@@DrakeDeuel so 20 min in the 400s then?
@@greggoldstein5165 yeah, check out my Piuma video for a rough 20 minute power
@@DrakeDeuel and you weight?
@@raphaeltiziani7476 around 154 pounds
Mt Lemmon is brutal.... just about when you hit the camp grounds.
why is everyone so obsessed with this segment lmao
Nice try!
What bike are you riding? Looks cool.
Raw carbon SuperSix Evo. I sanded the paint off myself
@@DrakeDeuel Aaah, that's why it looked so familiar! Nice touch on sanding the paint off. Thanks for the reply!
@@DrakeDeuel Love to know how you did it. I have a 2018 Ridley and the paintjob on that is kind of meh.
@@yuva I tried using a product called carbolift that’s supposed to remove the paint, but it only removed one layer, so then I just went to town with sandpaper. I finished it with a clear coat.
Drake, curious whats the bar/stem you’re running?
It is farsports barstem
the other response is correct, Farsports a Chinese brand. I chose it because it comes in 36cm width for the aero benefit.
Look at those cacti!
The cacti in Tucson are amazing. The really tall ones are absolutely ancient 🌵😍
@@DrakeDeuel I can only imagine, also don't come back to golden, CO for like the next 15 years.. working on trynna get anywhere near that lookout mtn KOM bahaha, cheers!
Random question - What tyres do you run?
Schwalbe pro TLR
@@DrakeDeuel Corsa Speed 2 or the Schwalbe TT TLE would have given you a few more seconds...though one puncture could end the day, not sure about the helmet choice...ever gone to Jim Manton for a fit or aero consult? Great effort, once again broke the CookieMan : )
I chose the Schwalbe tires because they’re easily available on Amazon. I’ve used the Vitoria Corsa speeds before, but the differences are pretty marginal. I train on the same setup, so it has to be puncture resilient.
The team I’m on is sponsored by POC, that’s the main reason for the helmet.
@@DrakeDeuel pardon the pun; gotta squeeze that lemon for every lick of RR! Keep rocking it...I'll say hello if I see you up Stunt or Piuma!
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Voted top 10 climbs in the world.
Great effort. Not a criticism but It seems you were dropping your right hip as fatigue accumulated (at the end, I know this climb). Maybe a slightly too tall saddle height?
Thanks for the feedback. I adjust my position frequently. I just moved my right cleat in a couple days before this, but I’ll probably move it back out to get my foot closer to the crank. I think that might help.
My left glute was sore at the end of the ride which is probably a symptom.
Next, do Mount Limme
Hey Drake what frame/wheel setup is that?
SuperSix Evo raw carbon and Hunt 54mm carbon spoke wheels
Dropping down from 160mm to 140mm rotors wouldn’t hurt. Lighter, more aero, and most importantly less brake pad rub as less impacted by lateral force deflection.... you’re welcome! Now get up here and race Chowchilla on 4/3 😁
We are trying to get Brandon McNulty to take this kom back from sanders. Probably in the fall once he comes back from Europe.
Lionel is pretty special. Taking his KOM should be incredibly difficult. So if you succeed then a successful pro career is definitely in the cards.
Lionel is a great cyclist as a triathlete. His w/kg on climbs is not elite in the pro peloton. There are 200 pro and conti cyclists who could take that.
@@dsmc80 he is the holder of the Canadian hour record, which has nothing to do with triathlon. how many pro cyclist can sustain more than 51km/h? He has also taken KOMs from several pros.
@@fritsgerms3565 He is indeed the holder of that record. Plenty of pros can do that, but most don't care to. Those KOMs he took were from pro cyclists on training rides. Look, he will kill them at SBR. Im a triathlete and I love Lionel and follow him. I just don't get why triathletes can't acknowledge that he's an uber triathlon biker and probably would be pack fodder in a cycling race as a best case scenario. Zwift for an hour is Zwift for an hour...it is far from a real race.
If there were a fraction of the European world tour or pro conti guys in Arizona they would smash him.
@@dsmc80 well, as someone that's into cycling, if you can take down Jens Voigt record, then you a darn good cyclist. I have no idea what benchmark you're using to distinguish between amateur vs pro in cycling, but it seems way off. Most pros (worldtour) cannot sustain a 51Km/h for an hour alone. And it's not they don't care to, it's because most can't. A sprinter is a sprinter. a climber is a climber. a classic rider is very different from a GC rider, a domestique often share qualities with TT specialist, but are nevertheless different. And there are tremendous bragging rights for the hour record, so only those who think they have a shot at it, actually tries. What makes you think that Canadian cyclists would not love to have the hour record on their name? It's essential to have as many prestigious accomplishments on your CV in pro sports.
@@fritsgerms3565 Again Lionel is good. He better be able to take Jens' record though. He was an end of career 40 year old domestique with older technology; tyres, bike, fabric, bars, wheels, helmet, positional knowledge, etc. Jens gave up 50 watts in aero.
Yes, there are plenty of types of riders. These attempts take sponsor and team money. Pros are paid to race and are rarely allowed to do these stunts. I bet Ed V. could still retake the Canadian record now.
Think you would gain 60 seconds or more with rim breaks versus discs? Weight and friction? That fat guy that looks like Froomey says so.:)
Dropping a couple kilos off the bike certainly wouldn’t hurt
Great video and awesome effort. Cyclists can scoff at Lionel but until they can knock off this KOM and the Canadian hour record, I think his athleticism speaks for itself. His bike handling skills are still questionable. Lol
His power for this KOM is incredible. I don’t think that his athleticism is at all in question.
Oh snap. The canadian triathlete still gor it, by like 3mins! Gotta to get yer crit up higher son. Ask phil he el tell ya how to do it
2 minutes and 17 seconds for a over 21 miles effort...basically you are less than 6.5 seconds per mile slower...easily overcome by better wind/weather situation...just saying.
Be a REAL man and ride up and down the back side (north side) of Mt. Lemmon.
please make a video about your equipment