Is It Right to Grill the Real Life Martha from Baby Reindeer? | Debate

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
  • Last night, a woman claiming to be the real-life Martha, lawyer Fiona Harvey was interviewed by Piers Morgan after the hit Netflix show Baby Reindeer was released last month. Some have called the interview irresponsible, but others say she has the right to tell what she says is her side of the story. Is it right to grill Martha, the real-life stalker from the hit drama Baby Reindeer?
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Komentáře • 127

  • @elenapoe3424
    @elenapoe3424 Před 25 dny +86

    Don't give voice to a stalker, male or female. Full stop.

    • @joshwalter5009
      @joshwalter5009 Před 25 dny +7

      No. I'd like to hear it. It's fascinating. Full stop

    • @fashunpuss6279
      @fashunpuss6279 Před 25 dny +4

      What if Gadd is the stalker. Think about it.

    • @elenapoe3424
      @elenapoe3424 Před 24 dny +5

      @@fashunpuss6279 The Police already thought about it with the collected evidences.

    • @CasualLaugh
      @CasualLaugh Před 24 dny

      Good. Then it should be easy to prove who's lying.

    • @wajn4785
      @wajn4785 Před 21 dnem

      It might not be her, might be someone else. They did say we changed the person name and looks etc, I'm paraphrasing to protect the person's identity and she happens to know him and everyone is jumping on the band wagon.

  • @RandomVideosFirst
    @RandomVideosFirst Před 25 dny +35

    'I don’t think, I sent him anything '
    SEnT fOm iPhoN

  • @hollygd9020
    @hollygd9020 Před 25 dny +47

    How does this woman still get called in to speak on anything. She’s an absolute nightmare no matter the topic.

  • @angel-a123
    @angel-a123 Před 25 dny +62

    She agreed to go on Piers show

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 Před 25 dny +2

      how much did he pay her for this interview?

    • @user-bb5fu1rp6h
      @user-bb5fu1rp6h Před 24 dny

      I hope they interview him as well and get him to bring the receipt

    • @R-E-X-
      @R-E-X- Před 23 dny

      @@lynnhubbard844 £250 😂 she’s a terrible negotiator

  • @paulio2129
    @paulio2129 Před 25 dny +45

    Allow me to finish please, allow me to just finish please then goes and talks over the other lady. Deluded narcissist at its finest!

    • @zaxose4100
      @zaxose4100 Před 25 dny +6

      I was thinking the same haha

    • @vekkstar
      @vekkstar Před 25 dny

      No she's a white woman that interrupted and had no valid points. Iman was being passionate and there was little time.

    • @catsaremylife8946
      @catsaremylife8946 Před 24 dny +3

      She does that on every interview - she's never wrong in her mind! Will never have a discussion just wants her points to be accepted.

  • @helendavies4758
    @helendavies4758 Před 24 dny +8

    She needs to be compensated for all of this. Everyone is cashing in on her, it's not right!

    • @user-zq2nd5yi8n
      @user-zq2nd5yi8n Před 22 dny +3

      Felt wrong to even watch the interview
      She is clearly not well and Piers is exploiting her
      There is a real chance this could end badly

  • @petrocism
    @petrocism Před 25 dny +18

    Why does anyone describe it as a comedy?

  • @DisenfranchisedLiberal
    @DisenfranchisedLiberal Před 22 dny +5

    Well, she wanted to do it. Piers, of course, agreed. Why wouldn't he? I imagine it's received a ton of views.

  • @elleema8357
    @elleema8357 Před 25 dny +15

    So it’s Netflix’s and Gadd’s fault that the internet is full of detectives, judges, jury’s and executioners?
    🙄

    • @mobwatch8119
      @mobwatch8119 Před 22 dny +1

      Yes. It's 2024. They know exactly what they're doing.

    • @elleema8357
      @elleema8357 Před 22 dny +2

      @@mobwatch8119 well she shouldn’t be a stalker then, simple! Maybe this will act as a deterrent for fellow stalkers. There’s always several messages within a message.

    • @mobwatch8119
      @mobwatch8119 Před 21 dnem

      @@elleema8357 Of course she shouldn't (if she ever was). But they shouldn't normalise blending facts and fiction and linking them both to a private individual. They now have a moral duty to clarify what was real and what was fictitious. But I doubt they will.

    • @elleema8357
      @elleema8357 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@mobwatch8119 that’s true, they do have a moral duty to separate the fact from the fiction.

  • @asbisi
    @asbisi Před 25 dny +10

    About the series, I watched the first episode without knowing much about the case.
    Later I found out that Richard Gadd PLAYS HIMSELF. I am not sure I want to see the rest, I find it off putting he plays himself, I don´t trust him.

    • @fashunpuss6279
      @fashunpuss6279 Před 25 dny +4

      Me either. I’m thinking he might be the stalker. Think about it.

    • @asbisi
      @asbisi Před 22 dny +2

      I think people in general are too quick to buy his story, hook, line and sinker. He seems very iffy to me.

  • @patallen5461
    @patallen5461 Před 25 dny +37

    Poor woman's mad as a box of frogs.

  • @TEE_PIK
    @TEE_PIK Před 25 dny +8

    Why would does everybody have a problem with this?? Media speak about interesting topics like this and then people are angry because they aren’t talking about every person that’s been stalked ever lol

  • @karenellis3039
    @karenellis3039 Před 25 dny +7

    Fiona came forward she did not look uncomfortable she looked like she was lying………

    • @lynnhubbard844
      @lynnhubbard844 Před 25 dny +2

      I have looked that way defending myself when someone is bombarding me with accusations. too. And he bombarded her with questions...one after another.

  • @SophiexLol09
    @SophiexLol09 Před 25 dny +32

    I don’t think Netflix protected her identity, the actor and the real Fiona, look similar, sound similar and act so similar

    • @snowball1988
      @snowball1988 Před 25 dny +7

      Agreed, Netflix ought to have been aware this was likely to happen

    • @SophiexLol09
      @SophiexLol09 Před 25 dny +2

      @@snowball1988 plus, you can see all her old tweets to Richard gadd, she was easily found

    • @lewisbush9566
      @lewisbush9566 Před 25 dny +4

      Just Good acting then🤷‍♀️

    • @sonofjebbo
      @sonofjebbo Před 24 dny

      ​@snowball1988 now I'm watching the show. Free advertising for Netflix. Maybe they predicted that

  • @user-bb5fu1rp6h
    @user-bb5fu1rp6h Před 24 dny +6

    Why hasn't he released the facts ??Iits really easy to see if someone spent time in jail come on ,so if hes lying about that what else is he lying about ?

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 Před 19 dny

      😂 He already said she was never arrested

  • @daveclarke8913
    @daveclarke8913 Před 25 dny +10

    She was brilliant as that psychopathic nurse in the film.. Misery 😮

    • @Sept1973
      @Sept1973 Před 22 dny +1

      Yes she so reminded me of the Misery character.

  • @ghostophelia2245
    @ghostophelia2245 Před 25 dny +7

    She has a right to speak, but she shouldve been vetted better and been actually confronted with fact instead of how wishy washy piers was

    • @Destiny.Hassan
      @Destiny.Hassan Před 25 dny

      It was clear he had done very little research & was just playing a he said she said rather than getting to the truth

  • @anton__84
    @anton__84 Před 25 dny +12

    There’s no proof either way who is telling the truth but if she is right in what she’s saying she should go to court.

  • @joeanna1100
    @joeanna1100 Před 25 dny +8

    leave the poor woman alone. bullys. richard gadd wants money fame. piers making a living out of mentally ill now ????

  • @BONAF1DE1
    @BONAF1DE1 Před 25 dny +16

    Head full of broken biscuits

  • @deedee7733
    @deedee7733 Před 25 dny +12

    Annoyed that the Scottish guest was talked over by the other contributer. I wanted to know what she had to say.

    • @phily8093
      @phily8093 Před 22 dny +2

      This other guest never does allow others to speak. She's a like a bouncing jack in the box of barely supressed anger and contempt, whatever subject matter she is wheeled on to be a talking head for.

  • @nicholasrobinson5508
    @nicholasrobinson5508 Před 25 dny +22

    no, if the sexes were reversed there wouldn't be sympathy and we wouldn't care his side of the story rightly so, stop humanising her

  • @pamelsims2068
    @pamelsims2068 Před 24 dny +2

    Did I hear correctly? "Every person has the right to reply..... but the ones who get the right to reply don't do it in a decent way.... therefore we should prejudge and control acceptable and non acceptable methods and deny some on the grounds that some people object!

  • @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB
    @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB Před 25 dny +24

    ITV hating on PM 😂👀

    • @jewelssunsun9450
      @jewelssunsun9450 Před 25 dny +6

      Exactly. What a different story it would be if he still worked for them...

  • @InterestedCitizen
    @InterestedCitizen Před 25 dny +6

    Iman's head tilt and expression and attitude is quite rude!!

  • @jbri1
    @jbri1 Před 25 dny +5

    Is she mental saying it's not exploiting Harvey? Piers Morgan thinks she's guilty i.e. also mentally ill, and he chose to grill her in front of a large audience, for his own gain. Simple.

  • @drinkwater9891
    @drinkwater9891 Před 25 dny +16

    this is like bullying, the power of netflix and some guy vs some random woman, its just wrong, worse than jeremy kyle

    • @snowball1988
      @snowball1988 Před 25 dny +9

      Agreed, it's very one-sided. It's not fair people are expecting Fiona to stay quiet/hidden away when Richard and Netflix have made a whole television series off it and all the revenue and got their version out there first

    • @zaxose4100
      @zaxose4100 Před 25 dny +4

      But if it were a man you'd be saying he needs jailed -YAWN-

    • @drinkwater9891
      @drinkwater9891 Před 25 dny

      @@zaxose4100 no i protected jimee savyle like sir keer stahma

    • @Destiny.Hassan
      @Destiny.Hassan Před 25 dny +1

      I still give her the benefit of the doubt until the evidence comes out but so far The woman couldn't hold one coherent truth together to save her life😂 She only met him "6 times" yet she sent him about 10 emails but she never explained where she got his email from if I was being accused of stalking that's the first thing I'd clarify, she done a "regular law degree" but when Piers repeatedly asked what she got she didn't know what he's talking about, she managed to keep detecting that she's Martha from the comedy show he done years ago when he wasn't successful but why would she know or even remotely assume he's talking about her when he talked about a woman who stalked him, sent him 41k emails & assaulted him? It's an admission atp, same with Darrien why would any man assume he's darrien unless he acc did SA him? & the list goes on.

    • @mobwatch8119
      @mobwatch8119 Před 22 dny

      @@Destiny.Hassan Bear in mind that this allegedly happened more than a decade ago. Do you have a clear memory of every single communication with a temporary acquaintance 10+ years ago? I don't.
      He made her the centre of his autobiographical show, so many years later, because the audience loves a story about a deranged woman, especially if they can bully her in real life. It sells.
      The shtick about him being motivated by her "need for help" is so blatantly false. How many years have gone by since their last interaction? She was a convenient prop to exaggerate with fictitious elements like criminal convictions she didn't have.

  • @frankwalders
    @frankwalders Před 25 dny +3

    Sorry this lady with the lipstick is so sick, Pierce his interview was with someone 'if proofen true' what is actually pretty easy to find out, who's life is completely destroyed. How void of any empathy do you have te be to not see that.

  • @jamesconlin5099
    @jamesconlin5099 Před 25 dny +1

    Short answer yes

  • @AM2K2
    @AM2K2 Před 25 dny +1

    Fascinating 4 minute clip...no wonder TV is dying

  • @RyanRyann28
    @RyanRyann28 Před 20 dny

    yes

  • @tas22222
    @tas22222 Před 25 dny +2

    How was she found and what if it ISNT her. Shame on them all. Internet sleuths found her supposedly ! IF she is the stalker she wants her share of the MONEY ! !

  • @user-lv7fn7ko8x
    @user-lv7fn7ko8x Před 11 dny

    Very difficult to make her look and sound different. Let me tell you why - it is these characteristics that make the character Martha so vulnerable

  • @daveclarke8913
    @daveclarke8913 Před 25 dny +3

    She only came back out of the woodwork with a view to making herself a few bob🙄

    • @Melanie_Star
      @Melanie_Star Před 25 dny +11

      Why not? Netflix & Gadd have made a mint. Fiona was not charged nor went to prison. If Gadd lied about that what else did they? They should have just said it was based on a true story & not a "true story". If they've defamed this woman I hope they get sued.

    • @Ayat78
      @Ayat78 Před 25 dny +4

      She wasn’t she was outed by the press

    • @daveclarke8913
      @daveclarke8913 Před 24 dny

      @@Melanie_Star I wasn't disagreeing

  • @AnthonyMonaghan
    @AnthonyMonaghan Před 24 dny +1

    Susan Boyle has gone wrong...

  • @mysticjen379
    @mysticjen379 Před 22 dny

    None of it has been proven yet, though. People are taking his word for it!

  • @VengaBusIsComin
    @VengaBusIsComin Před 18 dny

    As soon as I see Imarn all I hear in my head is "let me finish" - wonder how many times she'll say it in this video

  • @joeanna1100
    @joeanna1100 Před 25 dny +1

    iman well said calire trys to skirt around the real issue which is piers explioting the vunerable

  • @fashunpuss6279
    @fashunpuss6279 Před 25 dny +4

    The issue is if it’s true or not. Simple. That’s what a defamation case pivots on. And since they’ve called it “a true story” they’ve opened themselves up to losing.

  • @jettstap
    @jettstap Před 25 dny +1

    You should not give these people any oxygen she is back in the stalking game that is why she has revealed her identity

  • @Lsa238
    @Lsa238 Před 22 dny +1

    Piers doesn’t care about the victim nor the perpetrator; he only cares about views.

  • @victoriatoulmin958
    @victoriatoulmin958 Před 22 dny

    It was a very interesting watch her interview and hearing her side but at the same time I can’t stop thinking that if it was a man stalking a woman and assaulting her we wouldn’t be putting him on a stage to tell his side

  • @lynnhubbard844
    @lynnhubbard844 Před 25 dny

    when I watched Piers' interview with her last night, he had more than 4M views

  • @iDalisMediaTV
    @iDalisMediaTV Před 21 dnem

    I am a former broadcast journalist and it was completely irresponsible to interview her without her counsel or rep present to help her navigate this intense grilling from Piers. We really need someone or an organization to keep the internet safer. We need a new set of rules as its apparent even seasoned broadcast journalists who should have taken an oath to serve the public and mankind at the highest level of integrity would side step this responsibility as Piers did.

  • @Kate-cg6ii
    @Kate-cg6ii Před 25 dny +20

    If Fiona/ Martha ends her life because of all this .. Its on Richard and Netflix’s

    • @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB
      @Lets_Go_Brandon_FJB Před 25 dny +10

      💯 agree with you but you know the media will blame PM 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @mariannehavisham8323
      @mariannehavisham8323 Před 25 dny +9

      He was the victim. He isn't responsible for her actions. It's art and they say write what you know.. he has every right to pour his pain into his writing -that is what artists/creatives have always done!

    • @silverstarlight9395
      @silverstarlight9395 Před 25 dny +3

      She's not going to do anything like that. She loves herself too much to do that.

    • @Destiny.Hassan
      @Destiny.Hassan Před 25 dny

      Yh its totally not on the mental health services & authority in this country who have been failing this womans mental health for more than 2 decades which lead to all this...

  • @John-om6ld
    @John-om6ld Před 24 dny

    Peerless Piers has done it again.

  • @georgefrancis8602
    @georgefrancis8602 Před 22 dny

    Kate looks nice!

  • @InterestedCitizen
    @InterestedCitizen Před 25 dny +3

    Glamourized? There is nothing glamorous about it. Piers did nothing wrong!!

    • @angelbedolla347
      @angelbedolla347 Před 25 dny

      He didn’t confront her with facts what so ever as he usually does.

    • @cgray8267
      @cgray8267 Před 24 dny +2

      @@angelbedolla347He did …the facts as we know , emails ? And correspondence numbers ? We have NO facts other than here say on both sides.

  • @gavinbarnes6310
    @gavinbarnes6310 Před 25 dny +3

    I’m an looks ridiculous. The filler, the makeup, the hair…

  • @TIVOSTUDIOS
    @TIVOSTUDIOS Před 25 dny

    She got paid a lot of money to be on the show, and she sold her story in paid journals, people weren't sure if she was really like Martha, but by going on TV everybody now knows the TV show was factual

    • @snowball1988
      @snowball1988 Před 25 dny +3

      How much was she paid? Do you know or are you just speculating? Also how much has Richard Gadd made off all this, but that's ok isn't it? Fiona hasn't been convicted of anything as far as we know so she is only an alleged perpetrator - not a convicted or charged perpetrator and that's quite unlike what the show portrays

    • @beckydavis4958
      @beckydavis4958 Před 25 dny +1

      I believe she said she was paid 250 £ so not exactly a lot of money.

    • @TIVOSTUDIOS
      @TIVOSTUDIOS Před 24 dny +1

      @@snowball1988 actually I think they are as good as each other, even if things happened as it was described he definitely fed her neuroses and her his, she did get paid, everybody that goes in shows like that is paid in the same way you would if you sell your story to a newspaper, is just the industry standard

  • @CravingSolitude
    @CravingSolitude Před 24 dny +3

    Imagine if it was the other way round and the sexes were reversed.

  • @Ayat78
    @Ayat78 Před 25 dny +2

    Poor lady

    • @ElanaVital83
      @ElanaVital83 Před 19 dny

      She almost ruined the life of a child.

  • @angelbedolla347
    @angelbedolla347 Před 25 dny +1

    lol just image it was a guy

  • @eli1985
    @eli1985 Před 18 dny

    Stop inviting that loathsome Ayton; she is insufferable. She is angry with Morgan so...