How a French Intervention in Ukraine Would Work
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On February 26, 2024, French President Emmanuel Macron told reporters that "nothing can be ruled out" in terms of placing French troops on the ground in Ukraine. How would that work? Under what circumstances might it happen? And would it trigger a broader conflict with NATO? This video explores what might be the next major twist in Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
0:00 France Mulls Sending Troops into Ukraine
1:23 France's Security Concerns
4:49 France's Role in the Russia-Ukraine War Thus Far
8:57 The Plausibility of a French Intervention
11:04 Deploying a Tripwire
16:05 Active Internvetion
17:21 Will It Trigger Article 5?
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The croissant of consequences rarely comes buttered
oui oui
Hon hon hon
Only on the 4th rock-Y planet from our Sol,,,
But it takes a lot of butter to make that croissant. I have no idea how this affects the metaphor.
Oui mais du beurre au sel de mer de Bretagne alors !!! Tartinaaaaage 😅
"Poland is warmer to the idea".
Poland: "Do it. Do it! DO IT! DOITDOITDOITDOITDOIT!!!!"
Meanwhile Czechia: "Oh shit is it time to defenestrate someone again? Maybe the Russian ambassador this time?"
Poland understands the living next to Russia is a terminal condition.
Poland literally got invaded hundreds of times by russia they have every right to be pissed
Poland were very into joining NATO and there's a channel called sarcasmtron with a video called 'shut up about nato expansion' which has some interesting detail about Poland vs Bill Clinton
@@echo_9835it can be amicable, especially if Russia offer them their land back..
That was a helpful video to understand what is happening and the possibilities for the future. These are precarious times. Lastly, I enjoy your humor. It helps to lighten the serious nature of the topic. 👏🏼👍🏼
Scary thing is, i dont think anyone really knows whats going to happen. No one is in control of the situation. Theyre all trying to second-guess and third-guess each other, hoping that they will eventually come out on top. We're all just going to have to wait and see what happens, bcause almost anything can happen at any time.
"Talk is cheap." That sums up the inherent disadvantage of civility vs jungle rules in actual war.
When it comes to war - in my eyes, it's the way of the wild. Go nuts if you wanna win.
Depends who's doing the talking. Certainly some have more credibility than others.
@@nHautamaki Problem with that is ,modern western leaders only have such influence at time of crisis like 9/11 or after Cold War, without even mentioning half of social media tearing you down in current environment. In essence, you need the cred of winning in Ukraine to have the cred to win in Ukraine,so here we are.
@@tommohsien888 Cred doesn't win wars, weapons and people that know how to use them.
"and ammunition is what, Micah?"
Article 5 couldn’t be invoked because France willingly intervened in Ukraine. Same for Poland or Baltic troops. Russia would have to attack those countries directly for that to happen. Similar to what happened after 9/11. It wasn’t triggered in Vietnam, or Korea or in any of the other interventions that the United States was involved in. Basically what I am saying is that if France intervenes directly, unless Russia attacks French soil or Baltic soil directly NATO wouldn’t be involved. NATO would definitely be on an even higher alert.
Article 5 had been triggered once and once only, that was during the balkans war between kosavo and serbia!
Correction, it was triggered only once, in the wake after 9/11, not in kosovo!
My 300 IQ plan goes like this: Poland officially anex the whole territory of Ukraine (bc something something history bs) => Ukraine = Poland =>Russia is attacking Poland => Russia is attacking a NATO country
Article 5 only covers northern hemisphere so Vietnam wouldn't have counted anyways and its why Falklands didn't count. Idea is to avoid dragging the alliance into colonial wars.
@@chloeholmes4641And article 5 only once as well, by the USA after 9/11.
@@chloeholmes4641balkan
Ok, time to subscribe, much obliged
Thanks William
If France wants to send troops to Ukraine, let em. If Poland wants to, let em. Article 5 isn't triggered when a NATO country, or even a coalition of NATO countries goes on the offensive.
Agreed. They accept the risk when they intervene and can't cry when their troops are killed in Ukraine.
@@davidford3115does that mean Russia can’t cry when their soldiers are killed by the French? They did invade a country leaning towards the west, they know the risk
@@Huminahumina465 That is a fair point.
@@davidford3115You are right. "America First". This is what Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford said before Pearl Harbor.
France sending troops to Ukraine is not yet "goes on the offensive".
I find it funny Russia can send 2000 men to Moldova to “preserve the peace” but they cry the second France considers sending 2000 peacekeepers to the boarder of Belarus in Ukraine lmao
I thought Russia was “fighting the whole west” anyway, so what difference does it make if it’s 2000 men or 200000, I thought they were already fighting the west 😂
Yeah Russia can't beat four countries with proper militaries all at once with normal military weapons. Nuclear exchanges wise Russia might still be rather strong. Though people probably doubt that Russia is capable and kept them working.
@@genericscout5408i doubt russian airforce can create air superiority for nuclear fallout. Ofc they could bomb some but i don think they can deploy as many as nato
@@genericscout5408I don’t want to find out
@@AJ-sw8uf Russia is also scared itself to use them. They'll accept losing Russian territory like towns maybe cities before using Nukes.
Fear of phantom Russian nukes and denial of reality that we're already at war keeps western politicians at bay.
Great information & analysis!
Fantastic point about broadly worded founding documents - How many authors can confidently anticipate how their work will be applied/interpreted in the future?
If you France around, you may get the baguette.
Unbuttered
Take the best from both worlds: the girl from Russia or Ukraine and the baguette from France.
France sucks, soooo...
we have nothing good to take from america @@FlorinSutu
Need some Spanish for the chorizo and Italian for cheese
Having ally troops on Ukraine soil bordering Belarus could free up the tens of thousand ukrainian troops actually stuck there and allow them to fight on the east front.
Are there Ukrainian POWs being held there?
What's needed now is peace talks
That’s actually a good tactic on first thought
Fight with what?
@@A1esund- At first thought maybe. On deeper thought, perhaps not. French troops (btw, France is part of NATO) is a redline for Putin. There are Russian troops in Belarus and Russia itself has transferred tactical nuclear weapons to Belarus. If the French move into that area, another front is likely to open in that border, now with Belarusian forces also involved. And Kyiv is only 620 km or about 8 hrs drive by car to the Belarus border, which is why a considerable number of Ukraine troops are stationed there in the first place. So, no! French troops should just stay home and not get involved.
@17:55 LOVE the references to SUPER MARIO 64. Such nostalgia. Love that game
This video reminded me of our wedding in Ouistreham, France to a French woman. The mayor who was officiating kept saying article this or article that, some of the numbers I recognised, but the rest remained Double Duch to me, only when the mayor looked towards me I knew it was my prompt to utter the word “Oui”
"or if you're hungary, just do nothing." 🤣
That funny because it’s true
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@@peterkay4122why do you keep saying that, Macron would love to be 1/10 as popular as Napoleon. Also, what happened to the French army in 1812
@@bfs69er 💯👍🏼
Better for Hungary to do nothing than loose thousands of life for a whole bunch of something. Something that backfires many many times over as we can see.
12:02 “trip wire force” what a nice way to describe sacrificial cannon fodder.
It happens, been part of the trip wire before. Luckily it didn’t go off but we probably would have been okay. At least, I tell myself that
Most UN peacekeeping efforts are exactly this. It has been around for awhile and often works.
Это как эко-активист который привязал себя к дереву чтобы его не спилили
Good reporting. Thank you. Go Democracy.
Thanks for a great summary as always! 👍
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Just something mostly off-topic that i had to pitch in because its been bothering me a bit, all the recent AI chatbots in a nutshell: they tell you the most encountered "opinion" (in their training data) on a certain subject, that's it. And we all know the internet (source of _all_ training data) isn't really full of fact-checked information, instead it's just 75% people talking about what they think etc & maybe 25% actually correct info, even if that much.
Its may appear like the AI's do focus on the correct info and even appear 'smart' at times, but then you realize it's because they literally told it "no" while talking to it for years before showing the public, people don't seem to understand that in some sense it's still expecting (for lack of better terminology) to be told no? it doesnt 'know' whats right or wrong, about anything, for all it 'knows' its just playing some kind of guessing game. And it doesn't actually "know" at all, we're nowhere near something like a rat brain or whatever.
With all due respect to the work that has been done, the term AI as it has become used in the last few years is extremely overblown. We're literally no step further compared to a few decades ago but now we have more data, that's not worth all this fuss at all, bubble gonna pop soon when something hits some fan. 🤷♂
Great summary he is delusional
William Spaniel Thanks for posting this video.
Even in retaliation for a Ukraine intervention, a Russian attack on France proper would clearly trigger Article 5. A more "grey area" case would be if Russia attacked the French embassy in Ukraine, which is diplomatically considered French territory.
Except that didn't help the US in '79 in Tehran...
The US bombed the Chinese embassy in Serbia in 1998. Whoops...
An embassy is not considered sovereign foreign territory. It's a myth. Any belligerent act nullifies the agreement and an embassy mission can at any point be rescinded by the host country.
@@chrislong3938 Did the US invoke Article 5?
@@psychohist I'm not sure if we had to, I think it's a NATO function.
Does the 'attackee' have to invoke it?
To be honest, I don't know.
@@chrislong3938The US likely just played it off, however, if it happened to nato now, the eastern parts would instantly invoke it to get some revenge and drag western nations in
That opening joke was hilarious XD I want a t-shirt that says "France around and find out!"
Article 6:
“For the purpose of Article 5, an armed attack on one or more of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack:
on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America…”
France intervening in Ukraine would NOT trigger Article 5, no more than the US interventions in Vietnam or Iraq did.
French Troops doing border security on all but Russian border and frontline would free up a lot of Ukrainian troops and equipment for the front. Also, maintenance and support for a squadron of Mirage jets in Western Ukraine to achieve air superiority is a good deal.
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@@peterkay4122 elementary school type of commentary. Try again , show smartness May be intelligence, who knows ?
Will a single Mirage take to the air? Russian air defense is the best in the world, and Ukraine has almost none, you make no sense. Russian troops are mostly on their own territory of Donbas so Mirages will not get close to Russian troops before being shot down. Watching them arrive means they are one missile strike away from obliteration.
@@stanspb763 hahahahahaha
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17:55 I wasn't expecting a Super Mario 64 reference in this channel of all places 😂. Great video as always!
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Incredible assessment 😊
very interesting
Really well thought video. Thank you
I'm not convince about the trip wiring argument. At least, I doubt it will work in France. If military men die in Ukraine, many French people will blame Macron for it, not Russia. However, if the goal is to push other European countries to intervene, maybe a few of them could flip.
Also, a lot of people here talk about (and you kinda did in your video) how France will send troops in Ukraine. Macron never said that, and that's important. It's obvious that everyone is considering sending troops in Ukraine, even if they don't talk about it. That's just what the head command of every armies in the world is supposed to do : planning, even if it won't happen. "Just in case".
If France finally send troops in Ukraine, I'll be really hyped about it, but I know that many here won't like that at all... (it's a french tradition to call every decisions made by our democratically elected leader, as a really bad decisions)
I am born in formal Czechoslovakia and there is lot of Czechs and Slovaks that will switch the side in case NATO provoke the conflict in full scale confrontation with Russian federation...just let me know in advance so I can buy Chinese and Russian dictionary
You must have read my comment from one of your previous vids. I actually understood this one. I mentioned I would buy one of your books. Changed my mind. I will now buy a few for the two most important and loved ones in my life. A transplant from America to Europe. How fuckin stupid for the Europeans to think what they been thinking. Personally I love Europe and don't want to witness what I am, dare to say experiencing. I am very concerned in more ways than one. Example: what were they thinking? I can go on and on but won't. You are something. My Brooklynese coming out. Pls keep your vids coming and keeping them simple for, well..😉😉👍
Thanks
At first I also was very unsure whether if William is narrating his videos himself or using an AI text-to-speech thing. But I stuck with his videos as they seemed to make sense and were interesting, and after a while I began to notice some very small things in his articulation that made me not question his humanity anymore. It did take quite a few videos though. He sure would make for a great fake AI narrator - if such a thing were to be needed somewhere :)
Oh and loved the Mario 64 references there ;)
Haha spot on. He sounds like a robot 🙂
He has a unique way of speaking that is only exacerbated by the fact narration gets spliced together.
Could be worse. Lot of vocal fry out there, and folks who are just horrible speakers.
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Thee French Connection, is my favourite film of all time
Très bon film 👍🏻
This Jeopardy board lfmaoooooo😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve said it before. I like your logic and analysis
the French significantly helped the US in its revolutionary war. and of course the US has paid it back in the 20th century. maybe Ukraine needs a similar kind of help and chance.
interventionism can work if the country you help aswell as its population want your help. some people took the wrong lessons from the failed interventionist wars of the last few decades
Or the right lessons.
Exactly this, only help people who want to be helped
There were no nukes in the 1700s
Russians helped in US civil war and even sent their navy ships as support to New York City and San Francisco, therefore Dems want revenge
Right because the French intervention totally ended well for France after the American Revolution...
Insightful as always. Thanks Willl
24:36: on the contrary, expect things to immediately turn to nukes. An attack on French territory, conventional or nuclear, automatically triggers a nuclear response from France. That’s France nuclear strategy.
The problem with French nuclear weapons is that their arsenal is actually too small to provide credible deterrence. France has just under 300 nuclear warheads, distributed across just four submarines, of which only one is operational at most. In an emergency, deterrence would depend on a single submarine. By comparison, the USA and Russia each have over 5,000 warheads, distributed across dozens of submarines and land-based intercontinental missiles...
@@till8014 A: you are overstating the numbers of warheads and it dont matter 300 100kiloton warheads isenough to destróy every singe city and town in russia, B: France can launch its missiles from their harbour and reach russia its part of their plan, they have a range of 10000km meaning it can be in harbour in marsille and hit siberia
@@till8014Cela ne sert à rien de pouvoir détruire plusieurs fois la planète.
Nous serons tous morts avant.
La France possède 4 sous-marins nucléaires lanceurs d' engins.
Le pouvoir de destruction de chaque submersible représente 1200 fois la bombe d'Hiroshima.
En cas d'attaque, Moscou et St Petersbourg seront vitrifiés en 10 mn.
Il faut y ajouter la force aérienne stratégique...
Cette dissuasion stratégique est amplement suffisante et les Russes le savent, c'est notre assurance vie.
Et Poutine tient à la vie
@@tuehojbjerg969 Of course, 300 warheads would theoretically work, but it is questionable whether they would all hit their target in the event of war and not be intercepted or destroyed right at the start of the war. Technical malfunctions can also never be completely ruled out, as we saw with the British missile tests that failed several times. In order to be able to maintain a credible deterrent at all times, France would need at least twice as many submarines as it currently has.
@@tuehojbjerg969 Russians have upward of 7 thousand warheads. Both sides could level each other. The point is to avoid that. But instead you're talking about France bombing Siberia. You should be stripped of human rights.
At 1:10 and after for a bit - “that’s *the rods and the ax!”*
"France around and find out" LOLz
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You have no idea how large and high tech France's military is.
the frence army is a tiny little joke ....@@jonathanstein5049 😂😂😂😂😂😂
well ..napoleon had a army...little micron have a nada army@@peterkay4122
@@jonathanstein5049 xDD yeah against just some dudes in sandals with aks in africa its very advanced
You are nailing the Turing test!
"I am not an AI" is exactly what I would expect an AI to say
His voice has to much spit in it to be A.I
I was wondering: is it possible that you might consider doing a video on the theory posed by Peter Zeihan that Russia is motivated in part out of a perceived strategic need to restore the outer crustal defensive perimeter it enjoyed during the Soviet period?
You have said similar things in the past, but I should like to get a second opinion from a perspective that I can reasonably trust.
Thank you for your time!
A question: is the Molitov-Ribbentrop pact still valid?
As a political scientist myself, I very much appreciate the quality and accuracy of your content.
You know, I would love to coauthor a paper or journal one day with you! We can all dream, right? lol
Keep up the great work, my friend
Copium.
😂😂his own idea..it’s got copyright by him..!🎉🎉
@@romavilla7855what?
@@IncognitoActivadoexplain what part of op is the copium you speak of
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These nonsensical remarks usually comes from kremlinbots. Just a misused method of discreditation without reason. Quite a few of them in this comment section (like every one mentioning the triggerwords), but not of the best quality.
The territorial limitation of Article 5 is found in Article 6, which delimits the area in which the armed attack has to take place (North America, Europe and other clearly defined areas north of the Tropic of Cancer).
He covered Article 6 in the video.
It's not really going to trigger Article 5, since France, a NATO member, isn't being attacked.
It doesn't change your analysis, but you didn't mention that France has its own little green men. Macron can always use the 'They are volunteers' when sending in the French Foreign Legion. But I think modern France sees the FFL as part of the French armed services.
Just have to point out. Germany did not invade Poland. Germany AND the USSR invaded Poland. Why people fail to bring that up still is strange.
It is as if people have never heard of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Aliiance, or as the Poles call it "The Pact of Blood".
Because the Russians only came in at the last minute. Just like when Germany was invading France, the Italians joined at the last minute, and despite essentially kicking someone who was already on the ground, they only managed to break their own foot in the process.
@@MN-vz8qm 1939 is not 'the last minute'
@@gertjan1710 ??? The russians joined a week before the end of the invasion of poland.
Just have to point out. Germany did not invade France. Germany AND the Italians invaded France. Why people fail to bring that up still is strange.
6:45 I'm sure that Russia _did_ want a peaceful solution. It's just happened to be "Ukraine surrenders unconditionally".
8:48 The Cowboy Reagan Gambit
17:32 _Why should it_ trigger Article 5? None of the US' interventions have.
Ish. 911 was a retaliation for USA interference in East Timor, and Saudi Arabia. what if Russia attacks a French asset in France before it is deployed to Ukraine?
Didn't Tucker Carlton said Moscow was very safe ??
@@gooldii1 what does that have to do with my comment?
@@RonJohn63 Think again! You can!
Good points about the parents and it all being transactional.
This could be interesting.
Since France is not a part of NATO’s command structure, it can intervene without escalating the war outside of Ukraine, France is a well seasoned military, a capable Air Force, and not to mention the French foreign Legion with its plenty of experience fighting low intensity conflicts
If done right they can help Ukraine push back Russia to its Borders
I am 100% here for all these crème de la crème puns.
“Arms and such” is a vastly superior descriptor for military expenditures than “defense”.
"Arms, Etc."
The pastries are soggy leftovers of former glory. Loved that commentary from Senegal😄
Very high quality analysis. Thank you.
-How Ukraine survived?
-Is a puppet alive?
Just skip to the end. “I am here to tell you I don’t know.” Good. Leave it at that.
they’ll intervene as strictly training and logistical assistance. As well as giving humanitarian assistance and evacuation support to the civilians around combat zones
William Thank You for this excellent exposé.
Also you shouldn't forget that frances nuclear doctrin is a warning shot not a response strike so it's a little more spicy
ABBA’s Waterloo plays in my mind
Never thought I'd see this video 2 years ago
Indeed this one feel very very late.
things are getting out of hand and no one gives a damn
The play that seems to be getting traction is a Belarus tripwire, where the Belarus-Ukraine border and maybe some parts of the northern Russia-Ukraine border would be taken over by France, freeing up Ukrainian troop to move south
They could also be used for logistics, intel, air defence and aircraft ground crew. Far enough away from the front line that the danger is low but still helping out.
Then france should be prepared for thousands of their troops coming home in body bags.
@@maxpower3990 How are the French even going to get near the border? Belarus and Russia have total command of their regions and 2000 troops and their3000 support staff will decimated in a day or two.
@@stanspb763 Simple. Russia won't attack them because they know if they do the French hit back.
@@hresvelgr7193hit back with what?
"Trip wire" aka "Plate Glass Theory"; see also Korea, South.
The Soviet union sent troops and pilots to Korea so they have no reason to complain if France sends planes, pilots, and ground troops to Ukraine as long as the stay within Ukraine's borders.
The bigger issue is if Russian aircraft violate Ukrainian airspace. Would NATO assets engage the Russians? That could be the "Man, Moment, Machine" that sparks wider conflict.
Not officially, no. The Chinese certainly did and did officially, SU did it via adversaries, "volunteers" and pilots under cover
Uhhh the soviet union doesn't exist anymore.
@@jsimmons9969 same trash different name.
Didn’t the Soviet Union have a Ukrainian president ??
Ultimately, countries are only willing to give up a certain portion of their own equipment.
Thus the obvious solution is to instead send their own militaries, equipped with their equipment, to do the fighting themselves.
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Or maybe negotiate peace terms and stop fighting.
@@texasray5237 there are no negociations possible when the attacker demands that he keeps the stolen territories.
@texasray5237 Have you already signed peace deals with the Mexican cartels so they stop smuggling in migrants and drugs?
@@BZValochedo you live there? If so, fair enough but otherwise how does it matter to you? Is it important enough to put your family's life on the line? Risking worldwide nuclear holocaust?
A French intervention *might* work but at what cost. You would have two great powers effectively at war (France and Russia) as well as two Permanent Security Council members at war. This would be unprecedented since the end of WW2 and would arguably be a larger escalation than Russia invading Ukraine itself. Not only is it an escalation, but it sets a precedent until the end of time that two great powers can wage war on each other. Not even to mention the nuclear factor
In W W 2 , it was the spies in the field for the Allies that tip the balance as to : where and what is the enemy planning....🤔
Ah shit, here we go again.
Round 3, Fight!
Thx. As a french, I found this video very interesting
One very important thing though: France has nuclear bombs and they are not under NATO command. If Russia strikes France, France won't need NATO to retaliate.
One other facet of this is that NATO countries not overtly fighting against Russia adds value to becoming a NATO nation. Hence why both Finland and Sweden decided to join NATO. They didn't want to get caught fighting a war alone as Ukraine has. It pays to join an alliance like that. By not joining or not having your country meet the criteria to join, you set yourself up for failure. It's a hard lesson for the world to learn. By making certain military actions exclusive to NATO nations, you establish incentives to join.
As a Pole, I am even more suspicious of NATO defence promises after learning that there is ambiguity built in. And Poles already have huge trust issues in alliances since 1939...
So, thanks for another war-related anxiety spike!
Poland was in a alliance in 1939? it looks Poland is in a better position than it ever was in all its history when it comes to having friends and being in close alliances - both the EU and NATO.
@@embreis2257 Yes, we had defensive arrangements with France and UK. That's why they declared war, but they took half measures that did absolutely nothing. Worst was that UK sent bombers to German cities, but instead of bombs they dropped leaflets asking for them to stop the war. Most British thing I ever have read about.
But considering whole history- yes, we are now in best geopolitical position we ever was, but that's more telling about our historic struggles than about our current safety. The biggest risk that I see is if Trump gets re elected, then I could see that he refuses to help due to those ambiguities built in. And then Germany could be too afraid to fight (both of Russia and their own past), and countries could be too afraid to be first to make a move knowing that US will not intervene. Although I have high confidence in Baltic States, Finland and Sweden, it could be too difficult for them to make a change in Poland.
I'll be honest my man, you guys are nothing more than a speedbump for NATO, its bullshit i fucking hate the way its managed and how its nothing but a money black hole for my country (United States). Its 100% going to turn into another Molotov pact just that instead of getting invaded on both sides Germany Britain and the United States would just sacrifice everyone there to save the lives of our own soldiers. Its the reason France has never fell in line when it comes to NATO.
@@syriuszb8611Trump was yapping about NATO being obsolete last time he became president. After his first briefing at Pentagon he turned 180% on this issue. There is absolutely no way US abandons Europe. To many client states.
@@syriuszb8611 don't worry too much. sure, another Trump presidency would kill NATO in its current form and probably snowball a lot of other bad things but what can we espect if tens of millions of US voters want this criminal as pres again and their supreme court doesn't stop this?
as for Europe: if russia wins over Ukraine then we are all in hot water. but even if the US fails us, should russia send troops to a NATO country we Europeans will pull together - and much better than the British did in 1939.
btw, the thing the Poles had in 1939 wasn't an alliance. those 'defensive arrangements' as you called them were nothing like NATO or anything else Poland has today. it was something more akin to the defensive arrangements Ukraine just signed with countries like Denmark, the UK, France, Germany etc or the Budapest Memorandum from 1994.
Lets not forget Frances Legion is taylor made for a foreign deployment to achieve the nations foreign policy.
Lmao your transition into your books was fucking flawless
I'd also like to see the Charles De Gaulle in the black sea, just flex on the Russians.
I doubt the Turks want to see it sailing past Istanbul. The last time the French navy was in this area they were going to shell it.
@@maxpower3990 just wishful thinking man, turkey needs to get with the program.
@robertlavery6896
The answer is in the Montreux Convention ...
Considering France said they would back Greece in a potential conflict with Turkiye, that seems unlikely for now.
Yeah… You remember Ukraine sinking a good chunk of the Russian Black Sea Fleet using converted jet skis? The only reason Russia isn’t doing the same is because Ukraine doesn’t have a fleet to sink. Putting the CDG in the Black Sea wouldn’t so much be a deterrent as a massive trophy which Russia would definitely sink on day 1 of a conflict with France.
As a German, the most interesting part of this video is, that the newspapers at 00:25 are in German
How about the part of Nord Stream 2 paid by Germany sunk by Ukrainians ?
@@ommsterlitz1805 ukranians are not smart enough to do that, it came from england
the font suggests this is probably the _Bonner General Anzeiger_ . it looks like stock image Mr Spaniel has bought some time ago as he used it quite few times since in his videos (more than 5 times already)
@@ommsterlitz1805 How did you receive the evidence for this? On a russian telegram page and it's video's or actual investigation ?
The $64 point - France has no treaty obligations for this. And NATO doesn't either.
Internationally, you don't just send in trooops "just because".
Interesting
I give the French a lot of crap for being French.
But they make for good warriors.
Merci 🙏🏼
Cope harder. XD
Maybe under the Bourbons, but modern France still leaves much to be desired.
americans in the other hand are really bad and cocky for so little reasons
They have great rifles: Never used and only dropped once
It seems like a game! I don’t think that France will be sending any troops! However, Putting and his government are panicking that’s a good thing
They will not panic forever. Fear tends to disappear when nothing happens. France will have to act on its words, or accept the fact that any effect from the current threat will not last long.
I think the last thing taking place in Putin, and his government is 'panic'.
Putin gets scared easily .
When Wagger look like it was heading to Moscow Putin
ordered the main highways have tank trenches dug up across them .
Russia just stated they now considder it a war and not a special military operation.
They will for starters send a new army group containing 4 divisions around 200.000 men.
I highly doubt Putin is panicking based on Macron's statements. Talk is cheap, even more so when the West established a pattern of sounding tough and creating red lines, only to back down from enforcing consequences because it was the easy way out at the time politically.
However I don't think these statements were meant for putin. They were meant for Europe. It tells Germany, especially weak willed Scholz, that the time of easy solutions and a short conflict are over and the consequences of a fallen Ukraine are dire. It signals to the Baltics and Poland that France finally agrees with the alarm bells they've ringing since Feb 2022.
And finally, it implies thinking that America will come to Europe's rescue is over. We are no longer the reliable partner we once were for 70+ years. Thank you, republicans.
Just watched RealLifeLore’s France/Russia/Africa video right before this and I think it adds a lot of the French motivation for opposing Russian influence in addition to your context.
"Putin ended the call early to go play hockey"
*Canadian here*
This is an entirely legitimate reason to end a meeting.
One thought I've had on how to do this would be for NATO troops to be stationed along areas where there isn't active fighting (like the Ukraine-Belarus border), allowing Ukraine to move its defensive forces away from those areas to the frontlines where they're needed
I visited Odessa. I hope it's protected.
It will be as long as the Frenchies help Ukrainians surrender.
In Russia,it will be
@@AlexanderDoHcKouJust like Belgorod?
@@AlexanderDoHcKou Or like Moscow right now?
Glad you visited once ago, because under Russia you will never be welcome to visit it again lol
@16:43 how confidently can they verify this... I mean 80% of deaths and casualties happen from artillery/indirect fire so france using that and would be near impossible to pinpoint who shot that shell. Same with rifle fire as distances in frontline are quite big. Only most forward trench warfare would be, but I dont think William suggests that, tip of spear ops for french troops.
Very good video, and very educational and enlightning. Very much enjoyed it.
As someone who grew up in a peaceful country, and not realizing how the threat
of War is very real, until now, when we see Russia attacking. You have power hungry
dictators, who want to expand their influence and territory, at the expense of the
peaceful countries, you "have no choice" other than to build up your defence
capabilities, and if not, you soon will "soon" be ruled by that enemy. If we want to
keep our freedom, we will always have to fight for it. We take freedom for granted
all to often, until you see a foreign power like Russia emerge, and in the process
of destroying Ukraine, and next up will be Poland, and others, until their stopped.
Everything that was mentioned so far that met strong reaction has later happened, leopard tenks, patriot, rocket lunchers etc. So i am sure that also troops will go in, sooner or later.
They are still crying about the f-16's which is hilarious!
So yeah, putin is bluffing, call him out and make him think twice about invading another democratic country, otherwise the us should've triggered article 5 during the battle of conaco fields!
Sad but true, and all the former were destroyed, such will be the case with troops. The real question is how long Western governments will persist.
Is there any connection between Macron's rhetoric and the fact that Russia has helped to kick them out of the Sahel?
Possibly. Russia has inadvertently given France a reason to look at ways to give them a black eye directly, or as has been happening already, supplying self propelled guns that help turn more Russian soldiers and Russian equipment into past tense.
The main connection is that Macron has no more credibility at all wrt French internal politics. His latest rhetoric is a dangerous and egotic diversion. He hopes a big mess would allow him to remain at the head of the country
@@cynthiaherbst3909 Cant wait till you sheep get drafted lmao
@@cynthiaherbst3909France giving Russia a black eye 🤣 more like a wedgie…
Being french, I don't think so. First because this would be a childish reason, that is not how states work.
Moreover because isn't exactly a recent issue. Russia supporting coups in the Sahel started a decade ago, and France hasn't acted drastically against Russia for it, because geopolitics is a game of chess, not cage fight.
No mention of the Minsk Accord in the intro? Talk about missing the reason Russia would consider any pledge from Germany or France as sheer bunko.
Here is a scenario of French troops being deployed:
1. France deploys in Ukraine.
2. Old church in France gets burned.
3. France withdraws
Also that book ... "How Ukraine survived" looks kind of interesting. I will probably read it right after it doesn't.
Why so mad?
France has a military agreement with Moldavia. Moldavia has a rebel province in Transdniestria (and one of the largest depots of Soviet calibre ammunition in the world) - maybe Macron can bring Transdniestria into the fold and Moldavia donate the ammo to Ukraine. Just a thought.
Transniatria will fall in one day!
Transnistria aiding the fight against mother Russia? Doubtful
If France wins in Ukraine they will deal with transnistria and then help Armenia protect or take back its territories.
@@squirrel287yes if donkeys fly, you would not need to worry about bird poop
As soon as French troops landed in Moldavia Putin would declare reunification with Transnistria
William, can you make a video about why a Volunteer/Expeditionary force a la Condor Legion isn't feasible or being done?
love the logic preziel 🤣 it is an offensive move even though for a defensive purpose but they will not comply with their own doctrine they will tweek, excuse and adjust unfortunately
I keep thinking Steve Buscemi is talking on these episodes🤔
I do not know what will happen but I am convinced there will be monumental change within the next 10 months . And I'm sure you can figure out why I set that time frame .
What are you blabbering about? Some q-anon BS?
@@NS-hs6lt I think he means Trump winning the election. Not just winning, but once he decides on his stance with the war in Ukraine, AND if it turns out that USA wants nothing to do with it, Europe would have to decided what to do next. It may be the time when Europe really sends peacekeeping troops to Ukraine.
What do you mean you don't know what will happen? LOL France (and NATO) will lose. They have already lost in Ukraine but are trying to extend the proxy war with Russia as much as possible.
@@NS-hs6lt To begin , I don't even know what Q-ANON is . I was simply pointing out , in my opinion , there are so many conflicts building around the world that something huge is going to happen before the next Presidential Inauguration .
of course, we put out feet too far in this pointless war
our threat is in the border control not russia
sensible thing to do that benefit both financial and reputation is to stop supply ukraine shit
aim for peace talk, before russo take odessa
I expect that way that the intervention would come about would be more like France deploying troops to Moldova and then getting into a clash with Russia "peacekeepers". Transnistria is so narrow, that the clash spills over with both France and Russia having troops in Ukraine. Or maybe Troops deployed along the Polish-Ukrainian border and then a refugee crisis happens, and France arranges to guard a humanitarian corridor.
I've believed for many months that NATO should install a 'tripwire' in Ukraine, although your explanation of a tripwire is a far better visualisation of what I had in mind. The vision I had was a UN peacekeeping force, at the invitation of Ukraine, but perhaps that is a flawed option.
D Day? Thats a small operations compared to Operation Bagration and that was the one that broke for all the german army