Starmer accuses Sunak of ‘desperately lying’ in leaders debate
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- The fallout from last night's TV debate has injected a new note of bitterness into the campaign. Sir Keir Starmer accused Rishi Sunak of lying when he claimed that Treasury figures showed that Labour would put taxes up by £2,000.
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And in a letter, the top Treasury civil servant distanced his department from the figures.
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"Being in control" and "being a bully" are two very different things. Starmer kept to the rules, Sunak didn't... and that's without the lies...
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Sunak came out swinging and Starmer folded like a cheap suit. The guy is a weakling and will be found out pretty quickly as PM. He will have the shortest honeymoon period in history .
@@tatata1543 Ta ta Tory!
@@tatata1543well, we won’t have long to find out, will we?
@@johnsartmaterialguidestuto7757 Hello numpty.
It's as if Sunak didn't realise that the civil service won't be party to a blatant deception. Starmer needs only to describe things accurately to win.
We need to look at Labour policy closely. Something smells funny with Kier Starmer
@@nimzgaz7049I'm afraid something smells FUNNIER about Rishi and his lot!
The smell of desperation that is!
Sunak made a COMPLETE fool of himself. The tetchy titch. VOTE THEM ALL OUT. Starmer let his prey dig its own hole. He let him repeat his despicable lie again and again and again and now Sunak can’t deny he lied. Starmer understands laying a trap. Bravo!
Think you give Starmer way too much credit
@@JamesBoslem-fh9grIt’s a common legal tactic, and Starmer was a lawyer, so it’s likely that this was intended.
Yes the Titchy tetchy was also protected by tetchingham the so called biased moderator !
Starmer was caught on photo doing Beergate Partygate in Durham. He also broke most of his 10 promises. He also broke his biggest political promise of all of about £28B on green deal climate actions.
Worlds on fire, millions could die & Starmer back stabbed future UK generations by dumping the green plan.
Is Starmer gonna let World burn ?
Thus voters will not be impressed by his accusations of lies.
@@JamesBoslem-fh9gr Starmer was a QC who rose to being DPP. That's what people like him do. I think you way underestimate Starmer!
The rich and entitled are pulling there hair out over the tories losing and every day i wake up with a smile on my face knowing the tories are closer and closer to wipeout good riddance
Shame on all Tory voters for what you did to our country.
Shame on labour and tony Blair for war crimes.and flooding UK with immigrants, crippling the NHS and raising house prices from £50k to £170k.
FACT.
vote reform
A lot of them are very old and gullible, the TORIES are the liars and the elderly are from a generation that expects honesty from its leaders. They are learning though.
Erm, they were voted in because NEW Labour wrecked the economy in 2008 and we had to suffer a decade of austerity, many people are still suffering the fallout. Were you even there?
Well said very well said
The only shame is it has taken so long to turn the economy from mess that Labour left behind but that is because it was left in such a mess. Now if Labour gets in power again it's the pensioners that will be robbed first all over again.
I wish Krishanan hosted that PM debate instead of the ITV presenter.
Because krishnans left wing biased and it would therefore be a 2vs1.
You doughnut, REFORM
He's so good isn't he? No bs straight to the point, won't be bullied doesn't care, who you are. I love him
They should hire Sangita Myska
Sangita is done she came for Israel we all know what happens😂
You know you've lost the argument when all you can do is shout over the other in a debate... I'd love to see the talk time stats
I mean, Sunak categorically did lie. We have the numbers. 7.5 million is not less than 7.2 million.
😂😂😂😂😂 even the audience laughed at him
'It's coming down from when it was highest'. Cue audience laughter.
Conservatives raise taxes. Heard on Ch4.
Conservative governments always cost you more in the long term they don't invest, if you don't invest in your social infrastructure your economy stagnates or has weak growth
Both raising taxes. Irrespective of who you vote for you get the same 💩 its a matter of which one smells better
Piece of work. There is £900 tax cut but Starmer is lying to get voters here. Starmer will raise taxes for Labour is bankrupt
Starmer looked weak!
@@birtlee2078It was a debate not Friday Night Knock Out at the MGM Grand. Sunak was disrespectfu, unprofessional, and above all else scared because he knows he's finished.
Correct sunak is a blatant liar,cannot stand the slimy tory get.
@john So you won't be voting Tory this time. Reform?
@@chatham43Starmer's lies are legendary
@@Noel-ji8nm What lies?
@@Geffo555you can look up his track record of lies but I doubt you will he’s a con artist
He's such am asshole
An unelected failure seeks the impossible. Bye-bye to all the Conservative and Unionist National Treasures.
in with the labour party for a few months until it all goes to sh*t and back in with Sunak.
Labour can’t do any worse. And they won’t have any money because of the Tories.
@@-mmmkayPlenty of money for wars.
Please don't vote if you think Sunak is unelected. We need people to vote who understand how the UK political system works.
@jrobs1133 Sunak being chosen as leader by a party mired in corruption and scandal isn’t the most legitimate premiership. It’s people planning to vote for this shower again that need banning from voting.
Another Tory PM who lies? So much for Sunak restoring integrity. 😂
Sunak came across as so much smarter than Starmer!
I like Starmer - miles better than the idiot Corbyn who led the party to election wipeout - but not sure he’s strong enough!
Channel 4 - left wing puppets!
The Channel 4 guy wants an argument and didn’t listen. Was he rattled that Sunak won the debate!
@@birtlee2078won the debate? Lol
@@birtlee2078 as opposed to being a tory rimmer like you?
Sunak is the moral extension of Boris Johnson and the economic extension of liz the lettuce.
Boris is back ,they both carry same DNA. Lying
Starmer is a confirmed communist. At the end of the 1980s, Starmer joined the Haldane Society of lawyers, when everyone knew it was a cover organisation for the british communist party, the old CP. It's unpatriotic to vote for a communist.
Boris taught him well, if your backed into a corner, LIE, LIE and LIE again.
Sunak is a typical Tory. Their behaviour is natural not taught. They lie and cheat without impunity.
The short clip here of the “debate”, reminds me of the first 5 minutes of the “debate” last night, with Sunak out of control shouting incessantly, like a prep school bully , not a Prime Minister. After 14 years of Tory fiscal incompetence, I just have to log into my pension pots to see how a lifetimes hard work and thrift have gone down the drain. That’s before we look at the Tory record of thousands upon thousands of unnecessary deaths before their time. The list is endless.
Before that we had Sunak hedging against this country triggering the banking crisis of 2008, which is how he made his millions.
Bring on July 4th before we have a civil war.
Tory politician shamelessly lies in public on TV during election campaign shocker.
How could Starmer have possibly anticipated such a development?
We are now going to understand Starmers style. Allows the opposition to dig a hole and he will drop them in it big time. 👏👏👏
Chris Philp... "Rishi Sunak, he's into detail, he's into his spreadsheets.."
Rishi Sunak: (paraphrase) NHS Waiting Lists have come down
Keir Starmer: (paraphrase) No they haven't, they've gone up...
Vote the corrupt tories out - enough is enough
Gove on coke again, there
He certainly does seem "Very fired up,”!
100%
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"You seem very fired up. Is that something to do with...?" 😂
tax the super reach land lords the KING!!!
Sunak is twice as rich as the king.
The king is taxed. Her majesty signed up for the Royalty to be taxed and has paid tax for many years now
@@ryanratchford2530 He might be richer than the king individually but he certainly isn't richer than the crown
I don't like being lied to. It's not a disputed number. It's completely made up. I think people need to mention that to their peers.
Sick of Tory lies and law breaking! Vote them out.
@matt In that case nope.
@@chatham43One liar accusing another of lying.
We need Labour lies and law breaking!!! Vote Labour.
@@jrobs1133 We need the "right" kind of law breaking and lies though! With an added sprinkle of U-turns and in house bullying.
@@teeq985 Now that's progressive.
Is there any chance we can get Victoria Derbyshire to moderate these events. Because she's so much better than the dross we have on the TV now. 🤔.
Love the way Krishna holds politicians to account!
Sunak showed how much he is like Boris. The Tory Party is truly a lost cause.
Sunak has liared it's been proved
has liared has he?
Lied*
Sick of greed it's the tories that are in the wrong
Conservatives made tax rises. This hurt the poorest in are society. Rishi needs to go
they also increased VAT which hurts the poor the most
Why did the host keep shutting Starmer down when he tried to respond to the tax falsehood?
Here’s the difference: Sunak has to do absolutely _anything_ to win this Election. Starmer need do precisely _nothing!_
you mean everything?
@@mixandmatch5138Huh? Not sure what you mean? 🤔
Precisely nothing is what he will do when he becomes prime minister 🤪
@titteryenot4524 anything and everything possibly?
@@boulevard14One liar accusing another of lying.
Summary the £2000 is over 4 years and the data is incorrect in the first place.. also, it does not take into account that tax is not paid equally by all people in the UK, especially billionaires. That's just the facts..
So it’s honest when they claim Labour are raising taxes by £2k but dishonest and in-accurate when, using the same hypothesis, it’s £3k under the tories?!
Have you heard of n3t zer0? Yes your taxes will be going up under that scheme, also vat increases, loss of your vehicle will cost you too, probably wont be able to work without it. A heat pump will set you back well over 15k and a battery to store the energy probably another 7k. Then the pension age will increase so you will lose thousands on that too. But you want to vote for it so go ahead. Reform will scrap that.
How did you come away with that conclusion? They made it pretty clear that Sunak was lying, and that the figures he used are deeply unreliable with a high risk of error, due to limited data and questionable equations.
The mental gymnastics you tories do to try and convince yourself you're not stupid is fucking impressive tbh
Murphy has always been good at holding politicians to the point. A shame Jon Snow isn't still around on Channel 4. The two were so good at working off each other.
I like the way Kia let sunak dig his own hole. Keep talking over me. Keep repeating the same lie. I can just see him thinking. We'll see how that looks tomorrow This is how he's handling the new dark incarnation of the Tories. Let the public see their true colours and we'll see if we can fix everything after they're out of power. I hope the conservatives do s sort themselves out and get back to the centre ground. A healthy country needs centre ground, labour and centre ground conservatives, working together to take us all forwards. The last 15 years with the farage in the mix has really ruined all of our lives quite dramatically. We are the only people that can't move around. We've imprisoned ourselves.
Didn't see the debate. Ridiculous format. We need better debate than this!!
Looking forward to Sunak's bye-election
asking the Brits opinion their answer is "Rishi lies but is so much better becuase he is confident with it"
Swede here. “Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” is a crazy way to start an interview😂
I know that these tories are vampires so I’m glad you’re treating them as such on national tv.
Your country has the worst immigration crime wave in Europe, deal with your problems
Sunak is always a big lier. Remove him from the pm seat
Yeh! Remove sunak and put farage!
Let's face it britian are fed up with the Tory lies we need a government that tells the truth and lives in reality labour 😎👍
Trust me either way, we’re fucked
@@niknakz4339 who told you that the right wing billionaires press ye that's what they would say labour financed by unions working people Tories financed by billionaires try to work it out 😎👍
@@kevinhayes7830bro you don’t seem to understand labour and Tory are friends. They’re a bunch of fucking rich snakes
im in bristol centre, i will vote the greens.
@@byunbaekhyun2283 good choice the main thing is to get the Tories out of our government they are a total disaster for our country 😎👍
Another day at work for Sunak and the Tories...
Tory's out Now!
RE : "Sunak is detail orientated" he looks at the spreadsheets and then sits down with his team and works out how they can make really bad things. Sound good?. And if they fail. just lie.. then repeat. "It's not a lie " over and over when people cross-examine you on the detail.
Be very careful whenever a politician uses the expression ' to be clear', or similar, as it's almost always code for the next sentences will be complete twaddle.
Since 2019 taxes has risen for the average family £13,000 under the tories this should be all over the news
integrity, professionalism and accountability. same lying policy, only difference clown.
Rishi is showing hes the first rude asian prime minister. Im a Pakistani and im ashame of our first prime minister. The man bullied liz truss last debate and im not w fan of liz. Rishi sounded like rude school boy bully. I wondered if rishi is like that at home
2000£ tax up but all our bills going up ! Now who are we going to believe 🤔
Bad Tempered Bully .
You can tell he grew up and is still in a privileged position, the entitlement, the way he just shouts out at them and been disrespectful to the host🤷🏽♀️
It wasn't a debate. It was just a lie and slogan shouting gameshow.
Anyone knows where can i see the full debate please ?
It's my experience that Rishi Sunak is a liar and cannot be trusted about, "Government integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level", 25/10/22 outside number 10.
Why did Labour have no answer to the 2000 tax hike on pensioners
Sunak is a disgrace. Openly lying. So sick of this punch Judy bs. We’re not America, ffs.
Sunak digging his hole even further
Sunak is an absolute embarrassment.
Bim Afolami really is becoming the new poster boy for Tory dishonesty.
Can we have green bins included in our £2000 council tax bill please??😂🤦🏻♂️
And better police and health services please
Sunak will give you the cost for all 7 bins apparently
Wouldn't mind roads without potholes.
" do you promise to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth." Brutal krish, absolutely brutal ! 😆
Politicians and truth are as far apart as London and Melbourne 😉🇬🇧
If a Tory is breathing, they are lying. 😂😂
WHAT ? Labour has "lots of plans" even though Sunak always says they don´t have a plan ? Makes no sense what so ever.
Thing is, if I pay a lot of taxes but I cam see those taxes going into something useful, I don't mind paying them. Since a few years my taxes are going up and the country, my city council is putting numbers of services down.
13:47 Bravo, kudos to you Krishnan👏👏👏
Sunak's attitude makes my skin creep. He's such a childish PM that he's embarrassing.
Why a tax on pensioners by Labour???
every time rishi talks, he lies about something.
Why only involve those two clowns in a debate? Include every party leader. Choices must not be narrowed down to just two parties
If someone can’t defend a rumour or an idea? Then it’s probably going to become a reality.
Audio?
That is so funny...the Tories can get a tax figure for Labour but can't for themselves 😂 Well done Krish
Great interview!! Putting him on the spot!! We need some fresh change. We need politicians work for ordinary people and not for the 0,01% rich.
It's pathetic watching The Tories always trying to defend their lies !
After 16hrs of debriefing from his advisors he comes out fighting lol bless he,s not capable
Never trust a tory
Bim: Labour have lots of legitimate plans????? hmmmm, PM they have no plan????? hmmmmm .....contradictoins and lies....get this shower out!
Two things should happen at the next debate. Starmer should ask Sunak to sue him for deformation of character. If he refuses this demand Starmer should insist Sunak repeats the £2k allegation (word for word and waiving his right of correction) at the first session of the new Parliament to open himself up to a misleading Parliament charge.
Why is the tv presenter trying to accuse and accuse without much in response come on!
Squabbling already, while they do
this the country struggles on. R
Labour and Tories are two cheeks of the same backside.
The question to the tory Economic Secretary to the Treasury "by how much by you plans are going to mean the tax burden goes up by?" that he did of course not want to give a straight answer to - if they've worked out by how much the tax burden will be raised from Labour's plans then surely they would have also worked that out for their own plans?
With all the £Billions of taxes that the tories have "lost" from the PPE procurement scandal, Track & Trace etc that needs to be put back into the pot, their own number is most likely way higher.
Simply more lying and childish mudslinging from the tories - but then we can't expect any better from them.
11:24 Bim promising to be clear, and then saying absolutely nothing useful.
Tory question time.
Ed Davey had his hands on the levers of power for 5 years. Ask carers how well they were treated as a result of austerity
Can the Conservative party tell the UK citizens how much they borrowed so far. Can the Conservative party tell the UK citizens how much debt they are leaving behind for any new administration to inherit. I am concerned about the poor state of the NHS and poor quality of services that they provide. Crime is up and immigration is up under the Conservative government. The NHS waiting list for treatment under the Conservative government is very long and unpresidented. It takes at least three weeks to have a GP's appointment. The Labour Party leader is a gentleman but Mr Sunak is a rottweiler and should be ashamed of poor NHS services under his watch. Mr Sunak should tell the British people how much him and his wife made or procurement of contracts during the Covid-19 through their private companies. Mr Sunak should show a list of what he's done since he became the UK prime minister. The Conservative Party tells lies to stay in office. Does anybody remember lies told about BREXIT?
Looks like the TV presenter has a theory of his own
I can't believe he just said it. "It's working families that pay the tax" not us.
Embarrasing when your own treasury don't want anything to do with what you say.
This interview just sums up the coming weeks ahead . Poor us
A lawyer accusing someone else of lying that’s a touch ironic!
Starmers not a lawyer
He was a humans rights lawyer in favour of immigration and rape/grooming gangs
They will TAX you Bim you can afford it, Offshore you will be worrying!
If the Labour Party is seeking a budget for their programs, I have an excellent source to suggest: double the taxes applied to insurance companies and ensure that they do not increase their prices. The area with the highest unjust gains in this country is insurance companies. The taxes on the profits of insurance companies, which are five times more expensive than those in European countries, should be increased. There is an unfair insurance law. Internet companies, without making investments or improving service quality, collect large sums of money from the public. Transportation companies do the same. The taxes collected from these areas would be enough to bring all projects to life.
The price increases in this country have never been proportional to inflation. The public has been consciously exploited and robbed, and the entities stealing this money from the public have been the companies. No product in the market has been proportional to inflation, nor have rents. The main reason for the housing problem is that housing investments and constructions have not kept pace with the growing population. Migration to rural areas should be encouraged, and infrastructure investments should be made in these areas. This beautiful country needs to be uplifted as a whole.
Please discuss these suggestions and strive for even better solutions. For this country and its youth.
04:14 … fired up is certainly one way of describing it…
The ham versus the coconut! Who will win?
Why does the presenter accuse Ben Ofalami of lying?
Krishnan, politicians need to lie , otherwise everyone will start to think that politicians have no idea what they are doing. 😆
This is such an astonishing pile of nonsense. The misrepresentation of the information in these documents is disgusting. This propaganda is absolutely disgraceful.
I think we all know why Gove seems "fired up".
No no no I'm not lying while nodding his head
Kier starmer was rumbled in the debate.
Il be voting reform