How Record Players Work
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- How Record Players Work
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The humans that invented the record deserve alot of credit. Its very complex especially for such an old technology
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@@thirdrayle no printer
@@kawaki1207 bye 💀 don’t bring this to CZcams 😭
@@sanudajayasinghe3357 LMAOOO
It’s truly incredible, I’ve been staring at these old records for years wondering . Thanks CZcams lol I have many records but no record player. Searching
This is great. I've always wanted to know how a record player works. And now I still have absolutely no idea.! Thanks!
Lol right! Like HOW do the groves turn into so many sounds!?!?
Fr how do vocals come out like I’d be more chill if it was just random notes of instruments but syllables and shiz is heard and not to mention it doesn’t loop the same phrase it plays full songs how does that work
Wait till you realize that as long as you can code the groves to make vocals and instrument sounds, real vocals and instruments aren’t really necessary. The groves sending signals to the speakers can reproduce any sound.
TRUEEEEEE! HAHAHA
So if I have a blank record I can just etch grooves in it and potentially create a musical masterpiece? I just find it astonishing that simply making grooves in vinyl can replicate drums, bass, vocals, etc
To the average consumer a blank record would be better used for correctly setting the anti-skate dial on a turntable.
You could, but you likely wouldn't hear what you'd expect. The exact vibrations of the music are etched into the vinyl when pressed. You could certainly try your own etching as Thomas edison did, but you still need to amplify it to hear it properly.
@@THEBATMAN28AHH not only that you would have to etch the grooves in such a way that botch sides on the needle get their share
@@rene.flores9466 to get stereo yes, but for mono audio whatever you etch is fine.
@@THEBATMAN28AHH oooo thanks for the knowledge
So, since every single explanation of how grooves on a piece of plastic become music makes it all sound even more complicated, I'm just going to assume that it's magic.
Did you even watch the video?
@ignisan6560 I watched it and I understand where the OP here is still wondering how grooves, needle, etc, become music. All of the technical explanation in the video makes sense, but it's still mystifying how a groove on plastic contain accurately recorded sound. How the needle and electrical signals get picked up and everything makes sense, but the plastic groove part is still kind of amazingly mysterious.
@@chungkingexpress94 exactly! I understand the explanation, it just still doesn't seem adequate for some reason. Like, it's just grooves on plastic and you put a needle on them and electricity makes music happen. I get that. But I still don't completely understand. Lol
@andrewmettler2228 yup lol. Like how does the plastic groove have Led Zeplin recorded into it? Lol
It’s based on the principle that a varying magnetic field creates/produces an electric current . you can figure it out further on your own ig
No matter how many videos I watch on how to understand these, I will never understand. I do not comprehend lmao
I literally don’t understand how music is transferred to a record grove. It blows my mind.
@john templeplate how do you imprint sounds to a plastic?
@john templeplate I have questions
1. How many songs can fit into a Vinyl record?
2. If a Record can fit like 6 or more songs for ex. How is it that a 3 minute song can fit into a singe circular groove and the needle can still play the music even if it rotates back and forth?
Please scratch question number 2 if its not a circular groove
@john templeplate thats true i havent owned a record player yet lol only saw vinyl records. thanks thooo!
There is some physics that was not explained and honestly the topic is pretty confusing overall.
Yeah I still don’t understand how little groves make certain sounds and how that sound has different tones 🤷🏻♂️ I’m actually more confused than before 😂
This is my copied comment as this question popped up in the whole comment section haha:
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
kjell159 I’m confused on a whole other dimension now ,but thanks 🤣
@@XAGR-hn3qt I'm confused why everyone is so confused?
@@kylehill3643 how similar looking grooves make different effects
@@kjell159 nice
I would’ve loved to see the faces of the individuals who tried over & over to make this happen and finally make it happen
This is so interesting. I've always wondered how they worked. My guess was that there were ridges but had no idea how they were interpreted. Thank you so much for this simple explanation
How tf do they record for a record though?
they very precisely etch it into metal or something which is known as the master record. they then make two molds of it for side one and two. then they but a chunk of vinyl, kind of shaped like a burger, and literally press it with the two stamps. I may have got some stuff wrong so watch this for an in depth description: czcams.com/video/wqJ0ouQScM8/video.html
The video was blocked! dammit so now how are we gonna know how their made
They use a lathe (a record cutter) to cut the groove on a special master. A lathe is reversed phonograph. From the master disk four copies are made to get the strong master metal negative, one for each side, with is then pressed onto a vinyl cake (A doughnut sized hot bloob of vinyl) with great pressure. Viola! A flat vinyl record
I have a cague idea but basically as you speak thru a microphone the needle vibrates and it carves the grooves of the disk.
you take a digital file, like wav or mp3, mostly wav because its lossless and convert it into a analogue format. so you take digital 0s and 1s (zeroes and ones) and make them into a soundwave, the soundwave is the groove on a vinyl record! (simple explanation)
i just binge watched every video of yours. I'm just getting into vinyl and these are by far the best videos I've come across. :) definitely going to give a sub
Thanks so much Kyle! That's why I make them! So everyone will have a great community to be a part of!
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so some sounds waves sound like a guitar and some sound waves sound like like Leonel Richie? needs more explanation.
Yeah thats what i was wondering... Sbout how the black disc records people in the first place to make grroves accordingly. Can someone give an explanation of how the grooves are calculated?
Not really. The fact that one sound waves sounds like a guitar and another sounds like Lionel Richie has nothing to do with vinyl records and everything to do with the waveform. Vinyl, being an analogue medium simply stores the waveform 'as is' in the grooves of the record.
How does it require more explanation? It’s the same principle whether it is in the record or the actual real sound wave.
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
These vibrations are just vibrations. Your brain is what interprets the soundwaves as different instruments.
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+Max Kanaszka haha :)
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How is soprano, bass, vocals, etc etched in the plastic? How does the plastic hold the memory of the sounds? I get vibration, but how are different frequencies keep inside the PVC groove? In the groove, you have a singer a guitarist, drummer, all at the same time but the diamond going over the pastic can then separate those individual sounds? I just don't get it.
joe budi there is a thing called “mix” in studios.
Yeah same that is what I was looking for too.
I'm researching this as well. It's so interesting that even the most complicated soundwave is actually such a very simple binary piece of information. No matter how many different tones and pitches our ears can decipher.
@@caseycolson4252 in a groove pressed into a hot vinyl plate!!! Wow!
exactly! people wanna know how these "grooves" can send vocals through the needle let alone a specific voice and words? this dude answered nothing
Humans are great
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down
Excellent video Jarrett. I wanted to do a video like this myself for people new to record collecting, but I don't think I could've explained it better in simple terms.
+Funky Moose Records Glad you liked it dude!
I understand how the grooves in the record translate to sound but I don’t understand how each groove is able to capture multiple different overlapping tones at the same time such as vocals, bass, and guitar that are being played simultaneously
If you are confused: Just imagine the grooves on a vinyl record as a soundwave, because it is basically a soundwave cutted into the record. And a soundwave contains alreade all the sounds, for example the beat, the melody, the instruments, the vocal at the same time. Also the needle goes left right and up and down, left right is one channel, up down is the another
A technical correction. In a stereo cartridge the moving element, in this case a moving magnet, is at the focal point of a 90 degree triangle where adjacent and opposite lines are made up of two sensing coils. Movement in the left track will cause the moving element to move toward and away from the left coil thus changing the magnetic flux coil and causing an induced electric current in it. As it is moving to and fro vis a vis the left coil it must then be moving accross the right coil. However, such movement will not alter the magnetic flux in the right sensor coil and therefore no current will be induced into it. For this to work as faithfully as possible, the moving element must be positioned exactly at the focal point of the two sensors. This is one of the reasons why tracking force is so important. Too light ot too heavy and the moving element will be out of position.
It's strange that there are so few likes
now i can sleep peacefully :D thanks
I've just finished a rewatch of the final episode of the anime Dr. Stone, in which they create a rudimentary record player from stone age materials, and I was left with wanting to understand the base principle of how it works more clearly, so I ended up on this video. I've got to say, I don't think I could find anything that's easier to understand than this; you've really explained in simple terms and simple illustrations, and it made it so easy to understand. I can now go to bed having learned yet another cool thing, thanks to you! ^^
This is a great video about "Stereo" records. You should do one about "Mono" and "Quad". The Quadrophonic system (very short lived) was quite complicated. Not only did the needle (stylus) move side to side, but up and down. The effect was amazing. Many artists actually recorded completely different versions of their albums for the Quad releases. The whole system was an early production of "Surround Sound" If you ever get a chance to hear one, it's quite a thrill. Unfortunately there were too many bugs in the format, and it just died away. There were also "Quad 8-tracks" which used 4 tracks instead of 2 for the recording, so instead of 4 playing positions, there were only 2. These sounded great in a car, and had your ears spinning around the passenger compartment. Again a short lived format.
The stylus moves horizontally and vertically in all stereo records. That's how the stereo signal is formed: each channel is encoded in a diagonal (and the lateral movement produces a sum of both signals, and that's why you can play a stereo record in a mono player and vice versa). Quadrophonic records used supersonic signals to carry the additional information that allows the separation between front and back. That's why those records demanded special equipment to be played.
Well explained...I am familiar with the concept, but poor at explaining the complete picture. Thanks for clarifying it.
Could have saved time by telling us it's Dark Magic
Sooooo much better than the "basics" video you posted, for a new beginner this is way more informative.
I’m not a part of this community; I just wanted to understand how vinyl records work. But this CZcamsr has a great voice and cadence
For those still wondering how the sound gets produced, realize that all sound is simply a vibration. When the needle vibrates on the record grooves, the "sound" is simply the speakers translating the vibrations into what we perceive as music.
Finally a better explanation
You missed an important point about the phono stage (pre-amp), this must also perform a frequency correction called RIAA equalisation. Vinyl is recorded with a bass suppression, RIAA boosts this back on reply. This is important, many people new to vinyl need to understand that a phono pre-amp or phono stage must be used.
Fairly new subscriber here. I've been loving your videos so far, new and old :)
BTW I love the Kung Fury frame in the background!! I have that album as well. I love soundtrack albums!
Nice im literally listening to elvis on vinyl while watching this lol
Best explanation I have found !
*I appreciate how you explained it so very much! Shows that you understand it well! Thank you!*
I never really thought about it, but music is pretty scientific. You have to experiment with things, and eventually you find a thing that sounds good, and you try to understand how to make more sounds that sound good and then you need a way to share these sounds with others and somehow along the way they discovered the harmonic nature of sound.
I am actually new to LPs and I am obsessed with buying LPs. It is like this feeling of "I WANT MORE". Hahahahha...but I asked myself the question of this video as well, I knew it had something to the with grooves, but how the grooves get "converted" to music or music into grooves --> NO CLUE. But now I know! Thank you!!
+Alexandra Gomes Sure thing! Glad you liked the video!
Thank you, record players have perplexed me for such a long time.
Awesomely understandable explanation. It’s really amazing how it all works and such vintage technology.
Great video and very informative. Maybe you should do a video about different kinds of cartridges, not just moving magnet. Great channel and keep up the good work. God bless!
Finally a video that explains everything.
I seem to have the concept, but I am amazed at the genius of those who originally invented the technology.
Thanks Jarrett! I shared this to our Audio FB page. Hope you get lots of likes!
Awesome! Thanks so much for sharing my video!
Sorcery, I say....Sorcery!!!!.....Nah its just Goooood Goood Good Vibrations!!!
Random passerby. Just wanted to say this was a great video you answered all of my questions about the voodoo that is record players.
Man jarrett you have grown alot in a little bit of time you were at like 530 subs now 711 that just shows how great your videos are. And my dad has way more records than you probably... I really appreciate the content
+Marcusd1213 haha glad you liked that little joke. I'm so happy people are liking my videos! I'm definitely trying my best to keep bringing you guys the best stuff I can :) Thank you for watching
+Vinyl Eyezz And in 5 months, you have 6k subs :O
GG MAN!!
68 K now, almost 70!
7 years later.. 228k subs
This is 3rd video I've watched on YT about "how vinyl disc" work and finally I got satisfied answer. Good work, thanks :)
Thank you, it helps me to UNDERSTAND it aLOTT..
I'm not surprised for the new recorder I'm surprised for this old recorder. Because that's how it works with a needle. And how it makes sound
The question just popped in my mind in the middle of online class and I can't get rid of it lmao
Yesterday when I explained the sound recording to the professor in your language, they were also surprised
You learn something new everyday, dude I always wondered how
I've been trying to figure out how records work. This video was great insight
good explenation. Liked it.
the fact that this was invented however many years ago, is mind blowing. it's genius
So Cool, i learned so much in 3 mins... Thanks Broooo... i grew up in the 90's and i swear i use too just analyze the records how they would just spin, and always wonder how music would come out.
This video definitely makes sense.
Wow, this is a really good video. I'm a CD collector, but I've always wondered how records work. Thanks for presenting the information in an easy to understand way. It's always great to lean something new!
I like the Mitch Murder record in the background
What stylus do you use/recommend? What's the difference between magnet and phonograph cartridges?
+Erik Wehner I use the Ortofon 2M Red! It's a great little cartridge with lots of texture and detail. I'll make a video about the differences between those two cartridges soon!
+Vinyl Eyezz Thank you! I'll be on the lookout for that video. Keep up the good work, I appreciate that you actually take the time to reply to peoples comments; excellent content as always.
+Erik Wehner thanks for watching my videos! Of course! I welcome good comments and feedback! :)
Piezoelectricity!! Used in many many branches of science. Sweet I never guessed that
Wow! Great Man and thanks a lot for explaining this machanism by a simple and efficient way! Thanks!
I love this video bc it answers so much, yet nothing at all😭😭
Goodness, you explained this way better than BBC's video
explained so beautifully🔥
Thank you very helpful
This is just endlessly fascinating that Bell hapoened upon this stuff and how its based on electomagnetic induction discovered by Faraday. I just cant put my finger on why it works tho
Brilliant and simple explanation, thank you. And thank you for not taking 18 minutes to do so
very clear, finally ! thank you !
That's absolutely fantastic! Thank you Jarret New!!!!!!!!!!!
That is so amazing! How did someone even come up with that? 🤔
if we analyze the 'one vibration' made by the needle, when I sing while playing guitar and my son screaming plus the heater buzzing and birds tweeting - all at the same 1/nth second. It's just one small scratch on a plastic....how come it can store all that info?
Exactly my question.... how do the grooves convert to sound waves? How does a sound wave become a physical object representation?
@@Music_Head Sound waves combine into a single wave form made up of waves of different frequencies. It takes math to understand how this works (wave equations), and even deeper quantum mechanics to understand why. Bottom line the sound is a single composite wave that your brain can decompose into individual sounds because your brain is God's most astounding creation.
Matt good point. But do you think the carving into the vinyl is the same as a great sculpture work of art? Let’s say there was a super human genius who could carve vinyl records by hand. Pretend he could make exact replicas. Now if he decided to make a little change in the pattern (and if he knew what he was doing) could he add a new instrument to the composition or change a melody line all by the sculpture he is carving into the vinyl? Or is there something more here going on with the sound besides the physical carving representation?
@@Music_Head Not an expert but I would say that is what synthesizers are, they let you manipulate sound waves by changing them in various ways to produce different sounds. The final wave you end up with would be scratched into the vinyl to make a record. Music is definitely the ultimate combination of art and science.
I just copy paste my original comment as it's basically the same question in this whole comment section.
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
I think the left side of the groove would move the stylus towards right coil and viceversa, try to emulate the movement with your own arm
Man this is awesome very well explained thanks
How are sound waves converted to a press to make records though?
my friend, first thanks. Now, please help, if u can: Ur explanation covers only part of the process, da main questions everybody keep asking in da comments r:
1. How does a scratch on a vynil capture all da sound information (let's say a whole orchestra)?
2. How can a piece of vinyl n some coils n electricity can replay all da sound information (full orchestra)?
I just copy paste my original comment as it's basically the same question in this whole comment section.
When you listen to stereo music you literally only have 2 channels.
In modern day DAW (audio software) some producers/audio engineers mix up to, sometimes even more then 100 channels, into only 2!
Imagine, when listening to mono music (like the built-in speaker of your smartphone or when you're not in the right listening spot) you're listening to just 1 channel of audio!
In other words, you can differentiate all these instruments out of 1 single audio channel reaching your ears.
Even the concept of what is an instrument in an audio recording is to some degree arbitrary.
When you're à kid with no knowledge about certain instruments & timbres, you don't classify/define the sounds your shearing as certain instruments, you just hear the whole.
We humans define what we're hearing as certain instruments, based on knowledge of and prior listening experience.
In the studio certain instruments are layered. So what you believe to be 1 specific instrument might be mixed in the studio as 20 separate tracks, yet you personally experience/define it as 1 specific, definable instrument.
Because in the end, it's just a sound wave, subjectively interpreted by our human brains. (good nor bad music don't physically exist, it's a subjective experience by the individual listener or the group of listeners)
To an alien listening to a stereo vinyl recording, it will probably just sound as random noise.
To YOU, it sounds like drums, bass & guitar.
You can study this with ethnic music.
When certain tribes were studied, they perceived both major as minor western tuned triad chords as neutral. A lot of musical perspective is purely subjective and ingrained by the place & time you were born, with what sounds/music you grew up with.
I play shakuhachi (a traditional Japanese instrument) and I can tell you that the traditional repertoire isn't what you probably perceive as 'music'/expect music to be.
There's an emphasis on different sound colors and usually an absence of metered tempo. The moments where you breathe for example, are actually part of the piece.
Certain 'notes' like an ou and a chi meri, besides having relative pitch differing from one instrument to another, have the same pitch in western terms but a vastly different sound and are notated and described as being actual different tones.
Meri notes are supposed to sound less forceful (taijitu principle, yin & yang like in Taoism which comes back in zen traditions) and more melancholic like.
In comparison, the tones on a western concert flute are supposed to have a consistent timbre, the tones on a shakuhachi are supposed to differ in timbre. Different musical traditions, although the shakuhachi wasn't initially a musical instrument, nowadays it is.
I like to call the shakuhachi an acoustic synthesizer for that reason. haha. :)
In Japan they have called it the instrument of the ten thousand sounds.
Sounds like a synth !
Our modern day, western, equal temperament, 12 tone, octave based, exponential pitch perception based, A=440 Hz, way of playing music is just one of many ways you can play/'make' music.
Or another viewpoint is that of synesthesia.
I associate certain frequencies with certain colors.
Music is like a canvas/palette to me, with higher notes being actually higher up on the painting and echoey & reverberating sounds extending inward the canvas like a 3D painting. Certain purer sounds with less overtones like a simple sine wave are more rounded while more complex sounds tend to look more squiggly and spikey.
I love synthesizer music, especially from the 80's. I'm not surprised myself with all the different kinds of timbres and layers that make the pallette full of colors and different kinds of strokes (like a paint brush) and squiggles.
And so on...
Of course this is associative, what's usually referred to as 'true' synesthesia is actually seeing sounds or actually feeling sounds or actually tasting words, etc.
So in other words, I'm probably not what they clinically describe as a synesthete. It't something that grows with me and didn't come out of the blue or has always been there, hence associative. And it's not always there in my mind. Higher quality sound does rend to help.
With closed eyes it becomes a bit clearer as well though.
Most people actually tend to describe music and sounds in general in synesthetic ways, like 'warm', 'hollow', 'huge', 'in your face', 'pumping', 'muddy', etc.
In short, your brain turns the noise coming out of 2 channels (or 1 or more then 2 when surround) into defined instruments because you learned to associate certain noise with a certain image.
When you hear a guitar, you're also seeing it, thinking about it.
When an alien hears that same guitar, he/she/it doesn't hear a guitar, it hears noise. (or their own instruments if they happen to also have musical traditions, if they can hear sound waves in the first place that is, maybe they see microwaves and taste sound waves like a human synesthete, maybe they're not even carbon based...)
Sound is just a vibration of molecules, usually air, after all. YOUR BRAIN TURNS THAT SOUND INTO DEFINED INSTRUMENTS AND MAKES YOU FEEL THINGS
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
* To further clarify. How can you hear more then 2 instruments in a live band setting, when you only have 2 ears?
The vinyl is just a way to cause the vibration. The vinyl literally contains an imprint of the refraction and compression of material (the stylus, arm, speaker cone and then the air, although the mechanical vibration from the arm first becomes an electrical voltage before hitting the - pre- amplifier, then a vibration again when the speaker cone moves and vibrates the air with it).
In other words, the vinyl contains like an image of the sound wave in some sense. For stereo records it contains 2 images.
Now this is my personal explanation. So I hope I make sense and don't spread misinformation. Personally I wouldn't know how this would work otherwise. This is just how vibrations tend to work. The vinyl contains an imprint of the sound. The amplification and speakers bring it into the air around us. Our brain makes the music.
@@kjell159 Thank u my friend! 4 taking da time 2 share this explanation, also I learned about da Shakuhachi or ancient synthesizer lol! It totally makes sense what u mention: Music is vibrations that our brain interprets like specific instruments beign played. That pretty much replies my first question. Asfor da 2nd, I'm still not close 2 understand how a vinyl n a simple needle can replicate a complex vivration (made by complex instruments) Metaphorically it's like: How can I paint a landscape full of multiple colors, using only a pencil. I hope u can help me understand it. Ps. Japan is awesome!
Rephrasing question #2: What does da gramophone have/use that da human body doesn't for capturing n reproducing da whole vivrations of a full orchestra?????
We capture trough our ears n neurons n reproduce by voice, how r a tin n a needlee more capable than our body 4 this means. Maybe we r not hearing da full spectrum of vivrations? Why our vocal folds can only reproduce "monotrack" instead of multi or full orchestra like da grammy?
I love the noise a record player makes when its first play
Nice xplained
Easy way.. Just imagine whole orchestra in there
Am I the only one that think records are much more complicated than cd/tape
It's still only half the equation though. The REAL magic is , how the sound signal is translated into grooves on the record in the first place. Judging by the comments, I think people are still confused. You can't really explain one without the other and expect people to understand. I will give it a go, though. Sound is a wave, and waves has measurable physical properties. Three main ones. Wave length, frequency and amplitude. This can all be very visualized, and decoded mathematically, and i wish CZcams would let me post pictures, because i can't tthink of any examples to offer of what a sound wave looks like in terms of these properties, other than maybe the visual representation of a robot voice but think of a bunch of different vertical lines compressed really close to each other. These properties can describe any sound. Amplitude, the HEIGHT of the wave will tell you how loud it is. The FRQUENCY will tell you the pitch, etc. Wavelength is just another way of expressing frequency, as it is the length of the wave. ie the greater the frequency, the more waves in a given length of time, and wavelength is just the length from one wave peak to peak or trough to trough. Anyways in order for these properties to become sound, you need a way to store them, which was what the grooves on the record do. In the recording process, the actual sound is translated into a signal that reproduces these wave properties. (by the vibrations on the components of the microphone. ) Because this signal is mathematical, that is every frequency has a numerical quantity, every wavelength has a quantity. then you can translate the recorded signal into grooves on the record, such that they vibrate the needle moving at a constant velocity (not actually constant but I'll get to that) so when these grooves vibrate the needle, the coil on either side of the magnet picks up the mathematical properties of those vibrations, and so that is the signal being passed from the recording to the needle to the receiver. At this point, it is just a question of decoding the signal such that the EXACT wave that was translated form the microphone to grooves on the record now vibrates the components in you speakers to recreate the SAME frequencies, amplitudes, etc Also, back to constant velocity. They ALSO have to mathematically calculate the space between the grooves since the needle moves faster on the rim than in the center, so the signal (grooves on the record) needs to become more compressed in the center. The mathematical properties of a sound wave are so mathematical that you can actually recreate the very sounds you hear mathematically. (insert visualization of a soundwave here) When you record, you are actually creating vibrations that are exactly mimicked by receiver picking up the sound waves. The record manufacturing machine will have this info when physically making the record.,. Think of sound as all kinds of intricate vibrations. Well, the grooves were put in the record so mathematically that it is actually reproducing the sound when the grooves vibrate the needle. That signal is decoded and send to your speakers which are in turn vibrated so those same vibrations reach your ears Anyways, i hope that gives the gist. Google picture of sound wave to know what i mean. It really IS just a matte of knowing what sound actually is. Sound is just vibrations, and vibrations are just waves, and when you understand that waves have certain mathematical characteristics, suddenly it isn't magic anymore. Its just recreating vibrations of the same mathematical properties as the original sound.
Still don't know how an old record player works :) you know... without the speakers and preamplifiers :P
Big cone, that's about it,
The best explanation
Jarret! Love ur videos! Very informative! I'm about to start my vinyl collection and ur videos are helping a lot! Im investing in the audio technical lp120. I see that u replaced the needle (stylus) does that make a huge difference in sound?
+Carito Mtz Awesome! Glad you're going with a great quality turntable! Yes, I upgraded to the Ortofon 2M Red, which was a definite boost in the overall quality of the sound. Everything sounds way more clear and defined!
+Vinyl Eyezz I appreciate you taking the time to reply! I am definitely going with the turntable that you have and automatically upgrading the stylus to the one you have on ur set up! Do I have to upgrade the cartridge as well or can I just use the same cartridge that it comes with the 120?
Thanks, that was a pretty good explanation.
Thank you. When vinyl eyezz explains how a record player produces the sound from a record, vinyl mentions a boost before the vibrations get seperated into left and right and we hear a sound (in theory). I wonder what the boost is like? Anyone have thoughts on this?
First of all, love the video.
May I ask tho’, where can I get those cool vinyl display “hangers” you have back there on the wall? I’m thinking about every single and pretty possible way to display some of the best ones I own and this is something I would really want. The ones on amazon doesn’t hold them from the side like the ones you have, so I can’t find any “identical” ones. Thank you!
fun video that describes some of the mechanisms of a record player but does not explain how it works. Has anyone found a video explaining the physics behind a record player and why it can store and reproduce sound?
The grooves tell the speaker cone how to move via magnets.
Thank you for this video! Always wondered how they worked.
So I understand the how these different vibrations make different pitches that can be played audibly, but I don’t understand how a record player and vinyl is able to differentiate the sound produced by a trumpet and a vocalist playing at the same pitch....?
There are an infinite number of waveform shapes that will change the sound, they're not all perfect sine waves. You could sing a particular note, and then sing the same exact note but in your best Eddie Vedder impression voice, and then say your dog steps into the room and howls that exact same note. All three of these soundwaves will have the same frequency (because they're all the same note, or pitch) but the shapes of the waveforms will be quite different.
Frequency/pitch is the distance between each "wave" in a soundwave. Closer together waves sound higher, farther apart waves are lower pitched. Take a ruler and a pencil, and make a horizontal line of dots left to right, with each dot being one inch apart from the others. Then take your pencil and draw a wave shape that goes up/down thru each dot. Then go down the page some and make the exact same line of dots with the same spacing, but draw the wave differently this time. There are a bazillion different ways you could draw this wave that would still cross thru your one inch spaced dots. You could make a really tall wave, a really short wave, a curvy wave, a spiky wave.. etc.. and each wave will sound different than the others, but as long as they all are spaced one inch apart they will have the same pitch.
Great video!
+Ssshenkie thank you!
What would be cool is if hot links were some how included on different parts of the explanation to learn furthermore such as the coils would have a link on it to click and learn about how electromagnetic coils work.
Then are those grove lines in the form of Coil in the disc?
Yes I totally understand what you just explained, because I totally didn't skip the video to 10s every second.
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A nice class, but would be better with a little deeper explanation such as how the needle gets the sound from the grouts.
Why does the left coil send signals to the left channel and the right coil sends signals to the right channel? what is the purpose of it? I mean I understood everything in the video except that part. I need help, please.
someone reply please, I know I'm a bit late from 2015 but whatever.
That's what we call "Nanotechnology" 😎
Thank you
Amazing ! Thank you
Love this
Ok. So I watched the video and I still have questions. How tf did it work in the early years before speakers, when that giant horn was attached? And also, can you explain it to me like I'm 5?
But how does it measure what note is being played, or the tone of the sound coming through??? The movement of the needle can tell it how loud AND what sound is being played? HOW?!
I’m still confused as to how that makes a song. Are the grooves made to produce the exact sounds that make the song or are they just triggers to something else that plays the song?