Got these for my old Epiphone G 310. Also put a Guyker roller bridge . Both fit perfectly. Noticed the locking tuners really make a difference . Money well spent.
I’ll have to check out the Guyker Roller bridge… I didn’t know they made one. As for the tuners, I’m overall very happy, I play this guitar a lot and these tuners have held up well… Thanks for watching 🤘🎸
I have the Te-62 and find the factory tuners to be top notch, tight and holding tune very well. While factory tuners on my Fender Bullet were loose with side play and definitely need replacement.
I installed a set of gold Guyker vintage tuners on my Harley Benton TE 69 Thinline. The bushing were a wee bit larger in diameter than the original chrome ones so I did have to do some drilling. It was easier than I thought although I did make a couple of minor mistakes ( first time I have attempted to change tuners ). I found these tuners to be very good. They work perfectly. I bought mine off of Amazon and paid $65.99 Canadian for them, with free shipping and no tax.
The only thing I'd say about your video is this. It'd be better if you slacked the string a bit more so that there is a full wrap on the tuning post rather than pulling it tight before locking it. This prevents the string from the 90 degree break right out of the tuner, which could cause it to snap there. Been there, done that. It's more common on the un-wound strings. On the B and high E strings I also run the string through the post, around it and through it again so that the locking mechanism has more meat to bite into. Otherwise, thanks for the review and thanks for the comment on the pickups. That was going to be my next question!
Right on man, what you’re saying totally makes sense. I’ve really yet to have a breakage issue at that point, but it makes sense. The double wrap for extra bite may be something I’ll try on guitars where I run extra-light gauge things for days when the arthritis flares up (it’s hell getting old 😂 🤦♂️) Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching 🤘🎸
This comment is absolutely on point. Once I entered the realm of locking tuners I went for the best from Hipshot to Gotoh to Fender and others. Whenever I pulled the strings straight like that, I ended up with breakages. It's best ,in my experience, as the comment states....to allow a bit of slack. The high E and B as mentioned, are notorious when it comes to this issue. Ever since I started giving some slack, the stability and performance has been on point. Great video otherwise. Glad to see someone do a review on these.
@@ehsanhaq155 I’m actually going to be doing another Guyker tuner vid soon because they have a new model coming out. I’m definitely going to mention this, although I haven’t experienced any breakages, I’ve heard this comment from others on forums and it makes total sense… Thanks for commenting! 🤘🎸
Nice informative video. I almost ordered Guyker tuners but ran across and installed Tone Ninja Locking tuners on my IYV IP-350 TBK PRS. They are very nice tuners with a 19:1 ratio. The fit and finish are well done, too. They were a perfect fit and the buttons were identical to the originals, which I believe are a mini button. I had an issue with one of the tuners, contacted Tone Ninja and had a response back within an hour or two! They opted to replace it and shipped it out the very next day! Their customer service is absolutely amazing. My guitar stays in tune very nicely now; even after setting for days without playing it. Here's a tip...when locking the string down with the locking knob, don't over tighten it! Just snug tight works fine. Over tightening can ruin the tuner.
I’ve heard good things about tone ninja’s … Might have to give them a shot and do a vid in the future when I get my next Harley Benton… Thanks for watching🤘🎸…
Thanks for the thorough review. I'm considering buying these tuners for a budget Ibanez GRX40 but have read mixed reports. Your review was very useful. FWIW the screws are #1 Philips head. #2 is a more common size in most products, but can potentially lead to damaged screw heads in used on #1 screws. If the correct #1 driver is used, the screws should come out without difficulty. I don't recommend the small drivers shown, their quality is typically poor, they often don't fit the screw heads properly, and can lead to damage of screws
Yeah great advice man… I used those smaller drivers on two other guitars without issue, but the screws didn’t really have any resistance coming out. The moment I tried on this Harley and the screws were in tight, it was clear they weren’t gonna work… haha… So yeah, definitely gonna grab a set of correct drivers. Thankfully the larger screw driver I had worked well. Regarding the tuners, I too have heard mixed reviews. I like them, for $25, they function and seem to work well. As mentioned in the video, a couple were tighter than I would have liked but at the price point, it’s hard to complain. They seem ideal for a budget guitar 🤘🎸 Thanks for watching!
You can often use a bigger screwdriver than you think with little guitar screws. Start by trying a standard #2, and work your way down in size until you find a solid fit.
Yeah man, that is the truth… Since doing this vid, I usually keep a few different sized Philips head screwdrivers around when I start a project like this to get more torque.
Ref tightness of tuners their is a screw on the top of tuner that adjusts tension on the tuner knob clockwise puts more tension on anti clockwise loosens tension
Yeah it unfortunately wasn’t a result of the screw on top of the tuner button… It was more of a tightness in the gears, and to be fair, it wasn’t really bad, just more of an inconsistency, which is pretty common among budget tuners…
I was looking at these for a couple of projects but I ended up going with Tone Ninja locking tuners from E-bay. One thing I like about Tone Ninja is they offer a ton of alternative style tuning buttons. I'm doing a Strat project with GFS 60's repro pickups and wanted that 60's style butter bean tuning buttons but locking tunings Which thanks to Tone Ninja I was able to do. They are a great tuners and worth checking out.
They are pretty nice and only sold by one seller called sporthitech. The GFS 60's repros are sooo good sounding. I originally wanted to get the more surfy 64 grey bottom but they only had the bridge pickup in stock. Im happy I went with the 60's repros though because I have never heard a non vintage, non Fender Strat sound so correct. The other project I put the Tone Ninjas in was a LTD M10 that I had put the black GFS Power Rails in and that thing was just a monster when run through a Stax Holy War pedal. To me its like those pickups and that pedal were made for each other.
@@rickyt11010 Dude I put those Power Rails in the HB from this video and they scream! Fantastic sustain, it’s become one of my favorite guitars… I’ve heard good things about the VEH’s so I think I’m going to give those a try next… I have the Redactives in two other guitars, they are great too! For the money, GFS pickups are hard to beat. I’ll have to check out the 60’s repro’s…
@@FretboardDiaries your video is what got me to pick the power rails they killed it! That guitar had a lot of intonation issues like the bridge was placed wrong on the body so I let it go and picked up a store branded generic Strat. I'm swinging way far from a screaming metal Power Railed powered monster for a mellow surfy strat lol. I went with the standard 60'S repros not the Texas or overwound which is probably the mellowest set of pickups I have ever put in a guitar. The bridge is like 5.8k. They are so clear and to my bad ears keep a lot of definition when the amps gain is cranked. Haven't ran them through any pedals yet but so far so good.
I've had countless identical wrenches just like that, and putting them in my toolbox is like socks in a clothes dryer, never to be seen again. My solution was to buy a handful of clear plastic coated spanners from Amazon for like $6 each. Put one in all of your bags/cases, and they never seem to disappear. Thanks for the tip on the tuners. I'll go ahead and hit 'subscribe'
I hear you man, deep socket seems like it would work well… The wrench works fine as long as you’re not in a rush and you’re careful, but I could see how a socket would be easy.
I have 8+ sets of these. They're just as good as Grovers. They do not come with a 10mm wrench. If they feel tight, loosen the tuner button screw a little bit.
Yeah I’d agree to disagree about being as good as Grovers… I have a few sets of Grovers and the quality is definitely superior. That said, I’m happy with the quality of the Guykers, particularly for the price point. I did try to loosen the Tuner button screw after I installed them but it didn’t help, it seems to be the gearing. And to be fair, that sort of thing is to be expected from a budget tuner. Overall I’m happy with them and they work as they should. I definitely plan to use them in future projects…
@@FretboardDiaries Some Grover for the fact comes from the same/similar factory, made from same materials, with same system only the outlook is a bit difrent. Another brand make the majority of Grover but it's that process Guyker and the other you had are made in Factory that is considered to make the best classical and acustic guitar tuners today, and i would say the best electric to. The other one you had should be the same as this, but who knows maybe the serial was a bit off or you know as it with evry production there are some oscillations, and i assume if tuners are working they won't trow them but sell them for a smaller amount of $ ( i may be wrong about that).
@@FretboardDiaries Just to add the issue that you had with tightness you can change that mate, just release a bit that screw in the ''head' of a tuner. I'm not joking Hipshot tuners are made there, yes some are ''made in the Us'' but a lot of them aren't and for me made in nowadays is some sort of game of words. for example i had issues with US hipsots that screw broke, the one that geos on the beck of head-stock, it was made from a softer alloy and it broke/crack half way into wood, so it gave me issue to drill it out.
@GUITAR P0RN MHO they are good as Grovers, Hipshot etc. Due to the ate made in the best tuners factory ''Der Jung'' , another 2 big factories are ''Jin Ho'' they make Wilkinson , Grovers etc and ''Sung Il'' in Korea that makes Gotoh, Floyd Rose tremolos etc. So Brands like guyker order them and it's cheep oday to do a laser inprints on the back, others are doing the same. A larger brand only ask for a bit difrent outlook but the quality is top of the line no matter which one you take. ''Ping'' from Taiwan that makes Fender trems, tuners is also great. In era of CNC and HQ electronic control of process there is no need to spent more then 30ish Euros/ US$ on a good locking tuners. All the rest We are paying hypes, marketing and some sort of fake ''prestige''. Of course those who wish to can spent 100$ on name if they wish to, it's a free world at least for that much.
@@bobibobik5903 Yeah I mean, I can only go by my personal experience with Grover Tuners and they definitely have a superior feel… This isn’t to say that all Grovers better, and I’m sure their cheaper line probably cuts the same necessary corners to get to a budget price… Perhaps it’s because the ones I have are American made, couldn’t tell you… But they definitely have a smoother more well built feel… As far as the tightness goes, I should have been more specific, it’s a tightness coming from the gears, not the type of tightness that is adjustable with the screw on top of the tuner.
I had two of the tuners that had that feeling… Felt a little tighter than they should have. It’s a toss up between these and the Kaynes. The Kaynes tuners looked the same, but felt lighter and more like the stock ones. These had a better weight and feel but a few seemed too tight. Ultimately for $25 as long as they functional, I’m happy for a budget instrument…
@@ethancorrea5370 All in all I think I prefer the Guyker’s… They just had a more solid feel… However, if the guitar had neck dive, I’d choose the Kaynes, since they are lighter, they might help with that… but other than that, I prefer Guyker…
All I use is Guyker locking tuners on my guitars which haven’t come with locking tuners! Awaiting a pair for my Guitar Max Harley Benton, and gonna put a pair on my Purple Sparkle Kirk Hammett. I ain’t spending £100+ on something what does the same job for £20-30 lol
Kinda surprised that Guitar Max didn’t have locking tuners from the start 🤔… Anyway, that guy’s channel is awesome particularly for folks like me who is a fan of budget instruments. I actually have a KH-202 I need to put some locking tuners on now that you mention it… 😂
@@FretboardDiaries I don’t see the point of spending a shed load of money on locking tuners on a double locking system! Just chucked some Guykers on my KH-602 and it’s fine. I suggest you do the same 😅
They’re very VERY similar… The Kaynes were lighter, whereas the Guyker were heavier and had perhaps a more durable feel because of it. So I’d say if your guitar has neck dive, get the Kaynes, if not, go with Guyker. Full Disclosure, I am currently sponsored by Guyker… So if you go with Guyker, use the code FretboardDiaries at Guyker.com at checkout for 15% off. Hope this helps 🤘🎸
Oh man I have to be honest, I recorded this over a year ago and I don’t remember… I’ll sift through the Facebook groups and see if I can find the diameter of the holes of this guitar, which is a Harley Benton TE-20HH SbK Standard…
Ive not yet heard anyone talk about the tuners setting the strings tight by hand and then locking the button. This is not wise. It tunes with the weight pull on the string in the worst break angle like a knife edge. Im not saying the strings will break , im bringing it to others attention that i find it illogical and with all the time saved i let the string wrap 1/4 to 1/2 a wrap where it takes some of the tension off the string bend angle. Anyone else do this or am i paranoid? Loll😅
I hear what you’re saying… Even with pulling the string tight (not super tight, just so there’s no slack), it still needs to be tuned and that usually ends up putting about 1/4 to 1/2 a wrap on. With that said, I’ve got 5 guitars with locking tuners and never had an issue with strings breaking. I tend to use a lighter gauge string too because of arthritis, so it doesn’t seem to be an issue. What you’re saying makes sense, just doesn’t seem to be a problem…
question, those individual tuners have numbers engraved near the rotating post, like L1 L2 L3 etc. , which one is for the 1st E String? , is it the L1 or L6?
I was thinking about installing locking tuners after I get my Harley Benton TE-20HH SBK that I ordered yesterday. Do other non-HB brand tuners fit? I read someone had an issue with Wilkinson for example holes not aligned. Yours look nice but would prefer an all black look but who knows I might relent. What is the tuner kit part number just in case? Update just looked at the stock TE-20HH pics and their regular tuners centers are off color too so I guess no big deal.
I have to look at the part number later when I have access… I’ll be honest, I’m not really sure what other non-branded tunes will work. You may want to check out the HB modding group on Facebook… It’s run by a guy named Rick Peters, those guys know everything… 😂 … I had heard that a bunch of guys there were using Guykers with no issue, so I just gave it a shot and figured I’d drill it out if they were too large. It’s funny you mention the all black look, I just had a gloss black with white bevel pickguard made for it… Gonna do a vid on that soon…
@@FretboardDiaries thanks I put in a request to join that group. When I first saw this guitar online the first time I thought it needs a black pickguard. But now I kinda like it as is because it adds contrast to the all black theme. I also have a buddy who does neck scallops and custom guitar builds who I’m visiting out of state very soon. Trying to get all my ducks in a row to get mods happening.
Right on man… I like the existing pickguard too, but want to try the black and see how it looks. I can always go back, plus, it’s good content for CZcams to show people the process of getting a custom pickguard and the end result… So we’ll see how it fits, and if I need to modify it any further… Hopefully there’s no issues.. 😆 we’ll see
Definitely Gotoh… They’re more money, but you’re getting something for that… I have a set on a different guitar and ultimately they feel more solid and more consistently smooth…
There are non-locking gotohs that I've found on Amazon for $30. I might prefer gotoh or Schaller non-locking to guyker locking for a non-tremelo guitar. I would say that any vintage kluson-styles are worse than the equivalent individual sealed ones.
@mysteryshrimp yeah, I do really like Gotoh stuff… That said, be careful on Amazon with buying cheap Gotoh and Wilkinson tuners. I received some that were supposed to be Wilkinson, they clearly were not, and they were trash. Obviously you have Amazon protection, but just saying… I like the Locking tuners just for the convenience, but if you don’t mind the non-locking that sounds like a good deal 🤘🎸
So was it the bushing or the guitar hole diameter? Measure the outer diameter of the bushing to verify if it is to spec, guitars are a system you can’t blame one thing without looking at The Whole. Can’t blame a bushing for being to small if it measures to the right spec and your hole is to large.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying… The bushings fit fine in this guitar… The only issue I had was that two of them needed a little force to be threaded on… That had nothing to do with the guitar but… The Kaynes tuners I had mentioned from a previous review were very snug on the Jackson Kelly if that’s what you’re referring to… And in that respect, you’re right, it could have been the holes we’re not drilled to spec…
@@FretboardDiaries no, the basic premise is you can not assume there is something wrong with something unless it’s verified, that’s it. The example I used was stating a bushing doesn’t fit therefore the bushing is at fault. You need to measure the diameter of the hole and bushing to verify, not a good practice to assume one or the other let the actual data/ measurement decide. Forget the example the takeaway is proper measurable verification.
@@bluwng Okay, but I didn’t say there was anything wrong with these tuners that I can remember though? Are you referencing something specific from my vid? I’m not trying to challenge you, I want to make better informative vids
@@bluwng I think you might have misunderstood what I was referring to… I was referring to tightness in the threading from the bushing threading into the tuner…. Has nothing to do with the guitar spec, and is a direct result of the tuner… It made it harder to tighten down the bushing into the tuner…
So you’re kinda right on the borderline of guitar value where it may be worth it to invest in a little better tuner… These Guyker’s are great for budget guitars, particularly sub-$300 guitars. Given this guitar retails new around $450, you may want to Consider a set of Wilkinson or Gotoh locking tuners… Those are kinda the next step up from the budget Guyker tuners. They are really nice and super smooth, and yes, more money, but you’re getting something for that coin… To be fair, the Guykers would work fine, it’s about value and what you want to add to your guitar. As mentioned, I think I’d personally go with the step up from these… As far as figment goes, be sure to check out some of the Ibanez groups on Facebook and ask around. That way you’ll know if they’ll drop in directly. Hope this helps, thanks for watching 🤘🎸
I have the Guyker locking tuners installed. Do you have this problem too? The 2 times I changed strings there was slippage on the high E string while tuning up. I read others had that problem too. It finally tuned up but ended up with a wrap around the post which shouldn't happen. Others say their locking pins are crap. Yes they were only $30 but the other better brands are $70 and more. I've had good experience with Fender and Hipshot on my other more expensive guitars. Guess I'll wait for a good sale deal in the future or at next string change I could put back the stock regular tuners.
You know, it’s funny you say this because last night I was playing this guitar and thinking to myself how impressed I was with these tuners and how well they hold tune… I’ve strung the guitar once since this vid too and haven’t had any issues with these… As you mentioned, they’re $30 so it’s not all that surprising that there may be issues with them, but I can honestly say that mine have been great to this point… Sorry to hear you got a bad set…
@@FretboardDiaries Guyker on Amazon replied and will make arrangements to send me 2 replacement tuners. Guess I’ll give them a try hope one of them works. Happy new year!
They've held up well... This guitar gets played a lot, it's kinda like one of the "House" guitars that anyone whose over visiting plays. I also record with it a lot because I love the Powerrails in it, so its seen some use. So far no issues at all 👍
@@FretboardDiaries I've done it that way for 40 odd years, its how I was taught. The torque is nowhere near enough to cause an issue with the screw. Just crack them all open a turn first.
🤔 I’m not sure if it will direct install or if modification will be needed. I’m sure you could ask around in some Facebook groups and the guys would know… You’d need the 3R3L option for that type of headstock… With that said, the PRS SE is the kinda guitar I personally think you’d be better off spending a little bit more for a better quality tuner. I’d consider Hipshot or Gotoh… Just my two cents, hope this helps…
@@FretboardDiaries Excellent, I asked that because there's people saying that the AliExpress ones could be fake, but if you bought them on Ali and you're pleased, that's a good sign
@@davidmartinez927 Oh and one last thought on this… I bought from a seller with over 26,000 positive feedbacks… If you buy from AliExpress, just make sure to purchase from an established seller and you should be good to go 👍
@@FretboardDiaries You're right! I didn't found a seller with that amount of reviews, but found one that sells since 2016 with pretty good feedback to, so maybe it's enough. Thanks for the advice!
Protip: Use a small screwderiver, but one that has a LARGE gripping handle. Those little ones are USELESS for the task. EDIT: You did exactly what I just mentioned haha.
Hmmm that’s strange, I’ll look into it later. Generally I try to point viewers to related videos at the end and CZcams lets you set which videos. Perhaps there’s a glitch somewhere, but THANK YOU for pointing it out so I can fix it
So after doing a little research, I’d be willing to be you were watching this video through a mobile browser, not through the app or on a computer. Endscreens, which were the links I was pointing to, don’t appear on a mobile browser. That said, the videos are in my channel, or you can just search Harley Benton GFS pickups and it should pop up… Thanks for watching 🤘🎸
Here’s a link to AliExpress where I got them… They are currently listed at $17+$8 shipping, that’s the cheapest I know of now… I paid $24 with shipping at the time of the video… US $17.06 48％ Off | GUYKER Black Guitar Locking Tuners /Upgraded version Electric Guitar Machine Heads Tuners Lock String Tuning Pegs for LP, SG, TL a.aliexpress.com/_mqgysrw
I put Kaynes on a Jackson Kelly I have and I really like them too… Although they were lighter, they worked just as good… So… 🤷♂️… I like them both, but I think I like the feel of the Guyker’s better… Guyker just felt a little more solid, however, if I had a guitar with neckdive, I’d do the Kaynes because they were lighter… Hope that helps 🤘🎸
@@FretboardDiaries the minute I tighten the screw to lock them, it slices the string…and it’s the D string on 8-38’s. But I tried it on 9-46’s and it still breaks. I’m assuming it’s a quality control issue. Probably the machining process left sharp edges around the string post. I’ll try modding it but if it happens again, I’ll toss them.
It’s always possible you got a lemon… I recently purchased a set of tuners called Dopro… Supposedly Korean made… The post inside was too long and you couldn’t thread the back button on or get the string through the post. So it happens… Just gonna use them as regular tuners until I can replace them 🫤
If you bought them through Amazon, contact support… I’ve been running 9’s on my with no issue whatsoever, and I’ve put a ton of time on this guitar… My guitar has a fixed bridge, perhaps a trem bridge could cause that? But I’ve had no trouble at all…
Well dude I see this is more of a review on how well your install went Really get much out of it as to how well these locking tuners perform Maybe you could or should reword your title and do a vid on their performance
That’s a fair critique… It’s funny you mentioned this because I just finished an install/review of MusicLily tuners and I went back and looked at the title of this vid a few days ago and realized I didn’t put “install” anywhere in the title. I’m definitely gonna edit it later when I have a moment. I do feel like I covered the pros and cons to these tuners, but maybe a more in depth comparison between these, the Kaynes, and the MusicLily tuners would be good to highlight what they each do well or don’t…
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Got these for my old Epiphone G 310. Also put a Guyker roller bridge . Both fit perfectly. Noticed the locking tuners really make a difference . Money well spent.
I’ll have to check out the Guyker Roller bridge… I didn’t know they made one.
As for the tuners, I’m overall very happy, I play this guitar a lot and these tuners have held up well… Thanks for watching 🤘🎸
I have the Te-62 and find the factory tuners to be top notch, tight and holding tune very well. While factory tuners on my Fender Bullet were loose with side play and definitely need replacement.
I installed a set of gold Guyker vintage tuners on my Harley Benton TE 69 Thinline. The bushing were a wee bit larger in diameter than the original chrome ones so I did have to do some drilling. It was easier than I thought although I did make a couple of minor mistakes ( first time I have attempted to change tuners ). I found these tuners to be very good. They work perfectly. I bought mine off of Amazon and paid $65.99 Canadian for them, with free shipping and no tax.
Actually HB’s are really awesome to mod for first timers… It’s part of the fun of owning them… Glad it worked out for you and thanks for watching 🤘🎸
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Thank you for the kind words… I’m always trying to make my next video, my best video 🙂
The only thing I'd say about your video is this. It'd be better if you slacked the string a bit more so that there is a full wrap on the tuning post rather than pulling it tight before locking it. This prevents the string from the 90 degree break right out of the tuner, which could cause it to snap there. Been there, done that. It's more common on the un-wound strings.
On the B and high E strings I also run the string through the post, around it and through it again so that the locking mechanism has more meat to bite into.
Otherwise, thanks for the review and thanks for the comment on the pickups. That was going to be my next question!
Right on man, what you’re saying totally makes sense. I’ve really yet to have a breakage issue at that point, but it makes sense. The double wrap for extra bite may be something I’ll try on guitars where I run extra-light gauge things for days when the arthritis flares up (it’s hell getting old 😂 🤦♂️)
Appreciate the comment and thanks for watching 🤘🎸
Thank you for putting yourself out there.
> it’s hell getting old
I'm almost sixty, so you don't have to tell me. 😄
This comment is absolutely on point.
Once I entered the realm of locking tuners I went for the best from Hipshot to Gotoh to Fender and others.
Whenever I pulled the strings straight like that, I ended up with breakages.
It's best ,in my experience, as the comment states....to allow a bit of slack. The high E and B as mentioned, are notorious when it comes to this issue.
Ever since I started giving some slack, the stability and performance has been on point.
Great video otherwise. Glad to see someone do a review on these.
@@ehsanhaq155 I’m actually going to be doing another Guyker tuner vid soon because they have a new model coming out. I’m definitely going to mention this, although I haven’t experienced any breakages, I’ve heard this comment from others on forums and it makes total sense… Thanks for commenting! 🤘🎸
Nice informative video. I almost ordered Guyker tuners but ran across and installed Tone Ninja Locking tuners on my IYV IP-350 TBK PRS. They are very nice tuners with a 19:1 ratio. The fit and finish are well done, too. They were a perfect fit and the buttons were identical to the originals, which I believe are a mini button. I had an issue with one of the tuners, contacted Tone Ninja and had a response back within an hour or two! They opted to replace it and shipped it out the very next day! Their customer service is absolutely amazing. My guitar stays in tune very nicely now; even after setting for days without playing it. Here's a tip...when locking the string down with the locking knob, don't over tighten it! Just snug tight works fine. Over tightening can ruin the tuner.
I’ve heard good things about tone ninja’s … Might have to give them a shot and do a vid in the future when I get my next Harley Benton… Thanks for watching🤘🎸…
Tone ninja are just repackeged jin ho tuners
Thanks for the thorough review. I'm considering buying these tuners for a budget Ibanez GRX40 but have read mixed reports. Your review was very useful.
FWIW the screws are #1 Philips head. #2 is a more common size in most products, but can potentially lead to damaged screw heads in used on #1 screws. If the correct #1 driver is used, the screws should come out without difficulty. I don't recommend the small drivers shown, their quality is typically poor, they often don't fit the screw heads properly, and can lead to damage of screws
Yeah great advice man… I used those smaller drivers on two other guitars without issue, but the screws didn’t really have any resistance coming out. The moment I tried on this Harley and the screws were in tight, it was clear they weren’t gonna work… haha… So yeah, definitely gonna grab a set of correct drivers. Thankfully the larger screw driver I had worked well.
Regarding the tuners, I too have heard mixed reviews. I like them, for $25, they function and seem to work well. As mentioned in the video, a couple were tighter than I would have liked but at the price point, it’s hard to complain. They seem ideal for a budget guitar 🤘🎸 Thanks for watching!
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You can often use a bigger screwdriver than you think with little guitar screws. Start by trying a standard #2, and work your way down in size until you find a solid fit.
Yeah man, that is the truth… Since doing this vid, I usually keep a few different sized Philips head screwdrivers around when I start a project like this to get more torque.
Great review! Can't wait to put it on my Jet JS-400.
Thanks!
I’ve heard a lot of great things about Jet guitars. Hoping one shows up at the local guitar center so I can play one
Just bought a LP clone and tuners were weak, so on of my 1st moves to replacement them with Guyker tuners I got on Amazon for $28.
Ref tightness of tuners their is a screw on the top of tuner that adjusts tension on the tuner knob clockwise puts more tension on anti clockwise loosens tension
Yeah it unfortunately wasn’t a result of the screw on top of the tuner button… It was more of a tightness in the gears, and to be fair, it wasn’t really bad, just more of an inconsistency, which is pretty common among budget tuners…
I was looking at these for a couple of projects but I ended up going with Tone Ninja locking tuners from E-bay. One thing I like about Tone Ninja is they offer a ton of alternative style tuning buttons. I'm doing a Strat project with GFS 60's repro pickups and wanted that 60's style butter bean tuning buttons but locking tunings Which thanks to Tone Ninja I was able to do. They are a great tuners and worth checking out.
Oh right on man I’ll be sure to check those out… I absolutely LOVE GFS stuff, great value and AWESOME pickups
They are pretty nice and only sold by one seller called sporthitech. The GFS 60's repros are sooo good sounding. I originally wanted to get the more surfy 64 grey bottom but they only had the bridge pickup in stock. Im happy I went with the 60's repros though because I have never heard a non vintage, non Fender Strat sound so correct. The other project I put the Tone Ninjas in was a LTD M10 that I had put the black GFS Power Rails in and that thing was just a monster when run through a Stax Holy War pedal. To me its like those pickups and that pedal were made for each other.
@@rickyt11010 Dude I put those
Power Rails in the HB from this video and they scream! Fantastic sustain, it’s become one of my favorite guitars… I’ve heard good things about the VEH’s so I think I’m going to give those a try next… I have the Redactives in two other guitars, they are great too! For the money, GFS pickups are hard to beat. I’ll have to check out the 60’s repro’s…
@@FretboardDiaries your video is what got me to pick the power rails they killed it! That guitar had a lot of intonation issues like the bridge was placed wrong on the body so I let it go and picked up a store branded generic Strat. I'm swinging way far from a screaming metal Power Railed powered monster for a mellow surfy strat lol. I went with the standard 60'S repros not the Texas or overwound which is probably the mellowest set of pickups I have ever put in a guitar. The bridge is like 5.8k. They are so clear and to my bad ears keep a lot of definition when the amps gain is cranked. Haven't ran them through any pedals yet but so far so good.
I've had countless identical wrenches just like that, and putting them in my toolbox is like socks in a clothes dryer, never to be seen again.
My solution was to buy a handful of clear plastic coated spanners from Amazon for like $6 each. Put one in all of your bags/cases, and they never seem to disappear.
Thanks for the tip on the tuners. I'll go ahead and hit 'subscribe'
Small deep sockets work well for this job. I wouldn't use a wrench
I hear you man, deep socket seems like it would work well… The wrench works fine as long as you’re not in a rush and you’re careful, but I could see how a socket would be easy.
Absolutely...
They give you the wrench which makes sense because you can never find the 10 mil socket when you need it😂
Dude Straight Facts… 😂 😂
Great contents man💯🔥
Thank you Sir!
Nice. Was choosing between Kaynes or Guyker.
Thanks for confirming
Awesome man, glad it helped!
I have 8+ sets of these. They're just as good as Grovers. They do not come with a 10mm wrench. If they feel tight, loosen the tuner button screw a little bit.
Yeah I’d agree to disagree about being as good as Grovers… I have a few sets of Grovers and the quality is definitely superior. That said, I’m happy with the quality of the Guykers, particularly for the price point. I did try to loosen the Tuner button screw after I installed them but it didn’t help, it seems to be the gearing. And to be fair, that sort of thing is to be expected from a budget tuner. Overall I’m happy with them and they work as they should. I definitely plan to use them in future projects…
@@FretboardDiaries Some Grover for the fact comes from the same/similar factory, made from same materials, with same system only the outlook is a bit difrent. Another brand make the majority of Grover but it's that process Guyker and the other you had are made in Factory that is considered to make the best classical and acustic guitar tuners today, and i would say the best electric to.
The other one you had should be the same as this, but who knows maybe the serial was a bit off or you know as it with evry production there are some oscillations, and i assume if tuners are working they won't trow them but sell them for a smaller amount of $ ( i may be wrong about that).
@@FretboardDiaries Just to add the issue that you had with tightness you can change that mate, just release a bit that screw in the ''head' of a tuner. I'm not joking Hipshot tuners are made there, yes some are ''made in the Us'' but a lot of them aren't and for me made in nowadays is some sort of game of words. for example i had issues with US hipsots that screw broke, the one that geos on the beck of head-stock, it was made from a softer alloy and it broke/crack half way into wood, so it gave me issue to drill it out.
@GUITAR P0RN MHO they are good as Grovers, Hipshot etc. Due to the ate made in the best tuners factory ''Der Jung'' , another 2 big factories are ''Jin Ho'' they make Wilkinson , Grovers etc and ''Sung Il'' in Korea that makes Gotoh, Floyd Rose tremolos etc. So Brands like guyker order them and it's cheep oday to do a laser inprints on the back, others are doing the same. A larger brand only ask for a bit difrent outlook but the quality is top of the line no matter which one you take.
''Ping'' from Taiwan that makes Fender trems, tuners is also great. In era of CNC and HQ electronic control of process there is no need to spent more then 30ish Euros/ US$ on a good locking tuners. All the rest We are paying hypes, marketing and some sort of fake ''prestige''. Of course those who wish to can spent 100$ on name if they wish to, it's a free world at least for that much.
@@bobibobik5903 Yeah I mean, I can only go by my personal experience with Grover Tuners and they definitely have a superior feel… This isn’t to say that all Grovers better, and I’m sure their cheaper line probably cuts the same necessary corners to get to a budget price… Perhaps it’s because the ones I have are American made, couldn’t tell you… But they definitely have a smoother more well built feel…
As far as the tightness goes, I should have been more specific, it’s a tightness coming from the gears, not the type of tightness that is adjustable with the screw on top of the tuner.
Got a set of these on one of my cheep Jackson’s. They feel really tight IMO tuning wise. Like not smooth turning like the locking ones on my Ormsby.
I had two of the tuners that had that feeling… Felt a little tighter than they should have. It’s a toss up between these and the Kaynes. The Kaynes tuners looked the same, but felt lighter and more like the stock ones. These had a better weight and feel but a few seemed too tight. Ultimately for $25 as long as they functional, I’m happy for a budget instrument…
@@FretboardDiaries Hello! Which one you recommend more to people, Kaynes or Guyker?
@@ethancorrea5370 All in all I think I prefer the Guyker’s… They just had a more solid feel…
However, if the guitar had neck dive, I’d choose the Kaynes, since they are lighter, they might help with that… but other than that, I prefer Guyker…
All I use is Guyker locking tuners on my guitars which haven’t come with locking tuners! Awaiting a pair for my Guitar Max Harley Benton, and gonna put a pair on my Purple Sparkle Kirk Hammett. I ain’t spending £100+ on something what does the same job for £20-30 lol
Kinda surprised that Guitar Max didn’t have locking tuners from the start 🤔… Anyway, that guy’s channel is awesome particularly for folks like me who is a fan of budget instruments.
I actually have a KH-202 I need to put some locking tuners on now that you mention it… 😂
@@FretboardDiaries I don’t see the point of spending a shed load of money on locking tuners on a double locking system! Just chucked some Guykers on my KH-602 and it’s fine. I suggest you do the same 😅
Which is better kaynes or guyker locking tuners? I am planning to buy one I just couldn't pick which is better
They’re very VERY similar… The Kaynes were lighter, whereas the Guyker were heavier and had perhaps a more durable feel because of it. So I’d say if your guitar has neck dive, get the Kaynes, if not, go with Guyker. Full Disclosure, I am currently sponsored by Guyker… So if you go with Guyker, use the code FretboardDiaries at Guyker.com at checkout for 15% off. Hope this helps 🤘🎸
What was the diameter of the hole for the tuners?
Oh man I have to be honest, I recorded this over a year ago and I don’t remember… I’ll sift through the Facebook groups and see if I can find the diameter of the holes of this guitar, which is a Harley Benton TE-20HH SbK Standard…
Ive not yet heard anyone talk about the tuners setting the strings tight by hand and then locking the button. This is not wise. It tunes with the weight pull on the string in the worst break angle like a knife edge. Im not saying the strings will break , im bringing it to others attention that i find it illogical and with all the time saved i let the string wrap 1/4 to 1/2 a wrap where it takes some of the tension off the string bend angle. Anyone else do this or am i paranoid? Loll😅
I hear what you’re saying… Even with pulling the string tight (not super tight, just so there’s no slack), it still needs to be tuned and that usually ends up putting about 1/4 to 1/2 a wrap on. With that said, I’ve got 5 guitars with locking tuners and never had an issue with strings breaking. I tend to use a lighter gauge string too because of arthritis, so it doesn’t seem to be an issue. What you’re saying makes sense, just doesn’t seem to be a problem…
question, those individual tuners have numbers engraved near the rotating post, like L1 L2 L3 etc. , which one is for the 1st E String? , is it the L1 or L6?
Hmm don’t have anything engraved on them that I could find… I believe they are interchangeable
I was thinking about installing locking tuners after I get my Harley Benton TE-20HH SBK that I ordered yesterday. Do other non-HB brand tuners fit? I read someone had an issue with Wilkinson for example holes not aligned. Yours look nice but would prefer an all black look but who knows I might relent. What is the tuner kit part number just in case? Update just looked at the stock TE-20HH pics and their regular tuners centers are off color too so I guess no big deal.
I have to look at the part number later when I have access… I’ll be honest, I’m not really sure what other non-branded tunes will work. You may want to check out the HB modding group on Facebook… It’s run by a guy named Rick Peters, those guys know everything… 😂 … I had heard that a bunch of guys there were using Guykers with no issue, so I just gave it a shot and figured I’d drill it out if they were too large.
It’s funny you mention the all black look, I just had a gloss black with white bevel pickguard made for it… Gonna do a vid on that soon…
@@FretboardDiaries thanks I put in a request to join that group. When I first saw this guitar online the first time I thought it needs a black pickguard. But now I kinda like it as is because it adds contrast to the all black theme. I also have a buddy who does neck scallops and custom guitar builds who I’m visiting out of state very soon. Trying to get all my ducks in a row to get mods happening.
Right on man… I like the existing pickguard too, but want to try the black and see how it looks. I can always go back, plus, it’s good content for CZcams to show people the process of getting a custom pickguard and the end result… So we’ll see how it fits, and if I need to modify it any further… Hopefully there’s no issues.. 😆 we’ll see
@@FretboardDiaries you could do either gloss black PG, flat black, or even a black paisley pattern will look good!
What about guyker vs gotoh?
Definitely Gotoh… They’re more money, but you’re getting something for that… I have a set on a different guitar and ultimately they feel more solid and more consistently smooth…
There are non-locking gotohs that I've found on Amazon for $30. I might prefer gotoh or Schaller non-locking to guyker locking for a non-tremelo guitar.
I would say that any vintage kluson-styles are worse than the equivalent individual sealed ones.
@mysteryshrimp yeah, I do really like Gotoh stuff… That said, be careful on Amazon with buying cheap Gotoh and Wilkinson tuners. I received some that were supposed to be Wilkinson, they clearly were not, and they were trash. Obviously you have Amazon protection, but just saying…
I like the Locking tuners just for the convenience, but if you don’t mind the non-locking that sounds like a good deal 🤘🎸
Hole position on locking tuners should be set at 1,2, 3, 3, 4, 5 o'clock positions, and that is beginning high e.
For 6 inline tuners that is.
Could you pls, advise the tuners version 6L or 6R, cause I'm lil bit confused of model naming on Ali
So for this exact model guitar, it’s 6R… Completely forgot to mention that in the video… Hope this helped 🤘
@@FretboardDiaries thanks a lot}
6L are for reversed headstock
@@LuisSanchez-qp8kiso to clarify, my Schecter CR-6 has the tuners facing towards the ground. So that would be 6L?
So was it the bushing or the guitar hole diameter? Measure the outer diameter of the bushing to verify if it is to spec, guitars are a system you can’t blame one thing without looking at The Whole. Can’t blame a bushing for being to small if it measures to the right spec and your hole is to large.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying… The bushings fit fine in this guitar… The only issue I had was that two of them needed a little force to be threaded on… That had nothing to do with the guitar but…
The Kaynes tuners I had mentioned from a previous review were very snug on the Jackson Kelly if that’s what you’re referring to… And in that respect, you’re right, it could have been the holes we’re not drilled to spec…
@@FretboardDiaries no, the basic premise is you can not assume there is something wrong with something unless it’s verified, that’s it. The example I used was stating a bushing doesn’t fit therefore the bushing is at fault. You need to measure the diameter of the hole and bushing to verify, not a good practice to assume one or the other let the actual data/ measurement decide. Forget the example the takeaway is proper measurable verification.
@@bluwng Okay, but I didn’t say there was anything wrong with these tuners that I can remember though? Are you referencing something specific from my vid? I’m not trying to challenge you, I want to make better informative vids
@@FretboardDiaries 6:04. Second negative point.2
@@bluwng I think you might have misunderstood what I was referring to… I was referring to tightness in the threading from the bushing threading into the tuner…. Has nothing to do with the guitar spec, and is a direct result of the tuner… It made it harder to tighten down the bushing into the tuner…
I have an Ibanez as73 that has some unbranded tuners, i will add a bigsby to it, do you recommend this tuners for that?
So you’re kinda right on the borderline of guitar value where it may be worth it to invest in a little better tuner… These Guyker’s are great for budget guitars, particularly sub-$300 guitars. Given this guitar retails new around $450, you may want to Consider a set of Wilkinson or Gotoh locking tuners… Those are kinda the next step up from the budget Guyker tuners. They are really nice and super smooth, and yes, more money, but you’re getting something for that coin…
To be fair, the Guykers would work fine, it’s about value and what you want to add to your guitar. As mentioned, I think I’d personally go with the step up from these…
As far as figment goes, be sure to check out some of the Ibanez groups on Facebook and ask around. That way you’ll know if they’ll drop in directly.
Hope this helps, thanks for watching 🤘🎸
@@FretboardDiaries thank you
@@FretboardDiaries I found some Wilkinson vintage tuners at about 40 dollars
I have the Guyker locking tuners installed. Do you have this problem too? The 2 times I changed strings there was slippage on the high E string while tuning up. I read others had that problem too. It finally tuned up but ended up with a wrap around the post which shouldn't happen. Others say their locking pins are crap. Yes they were only $30 but the other better brands are $70 and more. I've had good experience with Fender and Hipshot on my other more expensive guitars. Guess I'll wait for a good sale deal in the future or at next string change I could put back the stock regular tuners.
You know, it’s funny you say this because last night I was playing this guitar and thinking to myself how impressed I was with these tuners and how well they hold tune… I’ve strung the guitar once since this vid too and haven’t had any issues with these… As you mentioned, they’re $30 so it’s not all that surprising that there may be issues with them, but I can honestly say that mine have been great to this point… Sorry to hear you got a bad set…
@@FretboardDiaries glad you have no issues. Got them off Amazon, not sure if Guyker would send me a single tuner. I'll have to find out though.
@@SteveMavronis give it a shot… I read somewhere that a guy had issues with two of the Guyker tuners and the Amazon seller replaced them…
@@FretboardDiaries Guyker on Amazon replied and will make arrangements to send me 2 replacement tuners. Guess I’ll give them a try hope one of them works. Happy new year!
@@SteveMavronis Happy New Year to you too! Glad to hear Amazon is taking care of you, hopefully the next ones are better 🤘
how is this guyker tuner now after 1 year?
They've held up well... This guitar gets played a lot, it's kinda like one of the "House" guitars that anyone whose over visiting plays. I also record with it a lot because I love the Powerrails in it, so its seen some use. So far no issues at all 👍
@@FretboardDiaries thank you! i'll be buying this.
You loosen the bushings BEFORE you take the screws out.
Any particular reason why? Just curious… I didn’t want to put the pressure of loosening the bushing on that small screw.
@@FretboardDiaries I've done it that way for 40 odd years, its how I was taught. The torque is nowhere near enough to cause an issue with the screw. Just crack them all open a turn first.
@@abergreg makes sense, thanks for the reply 🤘🎸
So this for a prs se is a not??
🤔 I’m not sure if it will direct install or if modification will be needed. I’m sure you could ask around in some Facebook groups and the guys would know… You’d need the 3R3L option for that type of headstock… With that said, the PRS SE is the kinda guitar I personally think you’d be better off spending a little bit more for a better quality tuner. I’d consider Hipshot or Gotoh… Just my two cents, hope this helps…
where do you buy it?
I got these from AliExpress, but you can also get them on Amazon for a few more dollars…
@@FretboardDiaries Excellent, I asked that because there's people saying that the AliExpress ones could be fake, but if you bought them on Ali and you're pleased, that's a good sign
@@davidmartinez927 oh wow, I haven’t heard that… But yeah, these seemed overall pretty good… Certainly makes stringing the guitar easier 👍🤘🎸
@@davidmartinez927 Oh and one last thought on this… I bought from a seller with over 26,000 positive feedbacks… If you buy from AliExpress, just make sure to purchase from an established seller and you should be good to go 👍
@@FretboardDiaries You're right! I didn't found a seller with that amount of reviews, but found one that sells since 2016 with pretty good feedback to, so maybe it's enough. Thanks for the advice!
Protip: Use a small screwderiver, but one that has a LARGE gripping handle. Those little ones are USELESS for the task.
EDIT: You did exactly what I just mentioned haha.
Haha yeah figured that out pretty quick, small handle equals zero torque…
Your pointing to videos in this corner and that corner that doesnt exist, I'm not seeing anything on screen as your pointing
Hmmm that’s strange, I’ll look into it later. Generally I try to point viewers to related videos at the end and CZcams lets you set which videos. Perhaps there’s a glitch somewhere, but THANK YOU for pointing it out so I can fix it
So after doing a little research, I’d be willing to be you were watching this video through a mobile browser, not through the app or on a computer. Endscreens, which were the links I was pointing to, don’t appear on a mobile browser. That said, the videos are in my channel, or you can just search Harley Benton GFS pickups and it should pop up… Thanks for watching 🤘🎸
$24? Cheapest I could find them is $33.
Here’s a link to AliExpress where I got them… They are currently listed at $17+$8 shipping, that’s the cheapest I know of now… I paid $24 with shipping at the time of the video…
US $17.06 48％ Off | GUYKER Black Guitar Locking Tuners /Upgraded version Electric Guitar Machine Heads Tuners Lock String Tuning Pegs for LP, SG, TL
a.aliexpress.com/_mqgysrw
kaynes vs guyker?
I put Kaynes on a Jackson Kelly I have and I really like them too… Although they were lighter, they worked just as good… So… 🤷♂️… I like them both, but I think I like the feel of the Guyker’s better… Guyker just felt a little more solid, however, if I had a guitar with neckdive, I’d do the Kaynes because they were lighter… Hope that helps 🤘🎸
are they 6r or 6l?
They’re 6r… Can’t believe I forgot to mention that… 🤦♂️😂… Thanks for bringing it to my attention for those who were wondering. 🤘🎸
@@FretboardDiaries😂
String breakers
Haven’t had a string break yet, have them on multiple guitars with light gauge strings and I bend on them wildly… 🤷♂️ 🤘
@@FretboardDiaries the minute I tighten the screw to lock them, it slices the string…and it’s the D string on 8-38’s. But I tried it on 9-46’s and it still breaks. I’m assuming it’s a quality control issue. Probably the machining process left sharp edges around the string post. I’ll try modding it but if it happens again, I’ll toss them.
It’s always possible you got a lemon… I recently purchased a set of tuners called Dopro… Supposedly Korean made… The post inside was too long and you couldn’t thread the back button on or get the string through the post. So it happens… Just gonna use them as regular tuners until I can replace them 🫤
I bought these absolutely useless with the high E string... 10s just slips through
If you bought them through Amazon, contact support… I’ve been running 9’s on my with no issue whatsoever, and I’ve put a ton of time on this guitar… My guitar has a fixed bridge, perhaps a trem bridge could cause that? But I’ve had no trouble at all…
I have had no issue with mine.
Well dude
I see this is more of a review on how well your install went
Really get much out of it as to how well these locking tuners perform
Maybe you could or should reword your title and do a vid on their performance
That’s a fair critique… It’s funny you mentioned this because I just finished an install/review of MusicLily tuners and I went back and looked at the title of this vid a few days ago and realized I didn’t put “install” anywhere in the title.
I’m definitely gonna edit it later when I have a moment. I do feel like I covered the pros and cons to these tuners, but maybe a more in depth comparison between these, the Kaynes, and the MusicLily tuners would be good to highlight what they each do well or don’t…