The 4 Bands That Will Still Be Played In 2100
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 9. 05. 2024
- Has history already decided that these four bands (who have not released a record in 30 years) will still be popular in the year 2100? I believe it has, let's discuss.
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Iâm not sure why people didnât understand that Iâm only talking about artists that havenât released a new record in 30 years last. The last time I checked the Rolling Stones released a record last year. Same goes for a lot of the bands that people are saying in the comments.
The one main recording that Nirvana released was surprisingly NOT one of the main 5 that you mentioned. It was "From the Muddy Banks of Wishkah". Now why am I bringing this up? There are 2 things to note about this CD that makes it very important. #1 It had some of the best songs they ever made all on 1 CD instead of multiple albums. #2 it was basically released as a tribute Album after Kurts death. I personally had that before I had any of their other stuff and I love Nirvana.
And of course the other one was MTV unplugged in NY, which came out directly after Kurts death. And that one went multiplatinum.
Did you read "But What If We're Wrong" by Chuck Klosterman? He speculated that 300 years from now, one rock star will be remembered as symbolic of rock music itself. Chuck Berry.
It's CZcams Rick! We all love what you do and generally take your word for things. We also gotta give shout outs to our personal favs!
"The Cosmos Rocks" Queen 2005
Yeh I was thinking the same exact thing. Bands that have been retired for decades and still gets played as if they are currently active and popular. Queen retired? Let's be honest. Is Queen really Queen without Freddie and John Deacon?
You're forgetting The Rolling Stones. They'll still be touring.
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Rick is hardly mentionning them lately, while previously stating they were his all time favourite band...maybe he couldn t get an interview after Hackney Diamonds.. he didn t even review the album or mention the release.
Truth
I'll be 128 in 2100. I can't wait to see if Rick's predictions are right.
See you there đ
Only if you're not busy skydiving or skiing down Everest đ
See you in the old folk's home!
There will probably be some sort of age-slowing medication released between now and then anyway
Young whipper-snapper. I'll be 131. Betting heavily on advances in medical science to offset my youthful 'indiscretions'
Weâre still listening to Beethovenâs 5th symphony. Good music is timeless.
Ah yes Nirvana, the definition of good music...
@@bygmesterfinnegan6938 as long as people relate to it and enjoy it is as good as any other art. it may not be as sophisticated as beethoven but i'll choose to listen to nirvana any day.
@daleal7250 It blows my mind that the best music ever written was written right after the inventions of tempered tuning, the piano, and standard notation. For the next 200 years all music was written down. After that, everything is just regurgitation.
you gotta start a youtube channel and get the word out.
Amen
Wish you'd mentioned CCR: 2 songs with over a bil streams & still 36.1 milloon monthly listeners, on Spotify. Songs with lyrics as relevant today as they ever were. John Fogerty is a living legend. đ
âIf it was released today, Iâd say âwow.ââ I think that nails it. If the music still sounds fresh and alive, people will keep enjoying it, no matter how old it is. Thatâs why some music thatâs 500 years old is still popular, and some music that came out last year has already been forgotten.
What is the 500-year-old music that's still popular?
JS Bach is pretty timeless. Chord structure is used by many musicians still.
500 years is a stretch, but your point is well taken. FYI: Bach was born 339 years ago.
Mozart, baby! OK; it's "only" about 250 years but still.
@@cotedebeaune2012 No banging early harpsichord riffs? We get a little loose when we start making these points. đ€Ł
I think Nirvana "surviving" to 2100 depends heavily on whether we have a resurgence of instrument-based rock at some point in the next 75 years. Basically, its popularity will likely rely on whether something has popped up to replace it. We're not exactly oozing with well-known classical music in the past century that we don't know through movie soundtracks.
I will never forget seeing the Beatles in concert in 1965, and Ringo is coming to where I live this September, amazing.
I first saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show (1965)
The Beatles are overrated.
@@tarstarkusz Name another band that is more successful.
@@tarstarkusz "The Beatles are overrated."
So are your gandma's oatmeal cookies!
(Hey, I didn't wanna go there, but you forced my hand.)
@@twalrus1 You actually make a good point. People who like something have a hard time believing other people don't think that thing is the bee's Knees.
Great job as always Rick!
I love that George Harrison wrote the most popular /streamed Beatles song.
Thank God for George.
Heard the song yesterday why doing my Home Depot trips and thought the same thing.
My favorite Beatle. I love how much he loved Indian Classical.
And arguably the Beatlesâ best song: While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
George is the greatest underrated Superstar of all time - I know that is an oxymoron
Sweet revenge for not being taken seriously enough pushed him to that level⊠itâs hard to argue itâs the best Beatles tune as at least 5 or so others could be in that conversation, but itâs definitely at that level. Every bit as magical from the start as Hey Jude and A Day in the Life. Itâs literally a perfect song. Sinatra, James Brown, and Elvis covered it ffs
When Rick mentioned that Kurt Cobain will always be 27, it made me realize that the one trait those four bands all share is a sense of "ending too soon." The Beatles were all still in their 20s and still the biggest band in the world when they called it quits. The Police were also young, and were at the peak of their popularity, with "Synchronicity" having been one of the biggest albums of 1983. Nirvana was obviously cut short by Cobain's death, as Rick mentioned.
Queen is the only one that seems a bit of an outlier, as they were in their 40s, they were 14 albums into their career, and they'd been around for 20 years by the time Freddie died. But Freddie's death was such a big deal, and he was such a giant presence, that his passing still felt like it brought the band's career to a close too early.
"Ending too soon" is a cultural rather than musical driver. You can't tell from listening to Get Back or Pennyroyal Tea that it was from the artist's last album of a relatively short career, indeed the artist probably hoped it would be otherwise.
@@montaguehorseposture6203 Oh yeah, totally. It's not that "ending too soon" affected the music; it's that "ending too soon" may draw more attention to the band and their music, and if the people paying attention like the music, then they'll keep listening to it.
Totally agree, if an artistâs career ends suddenly, they donât hang around long enough to become irrelevant.
Look at The Smiths vs Morrissey, one fell apart at the peak of their powers, the other makes a worse album every few years and makes increasingly irritating pronouncements on politics and dietary habits.
Just a personal opinion, but one Iâm sure I share with others.
I think another thing that made Queen so big was Live Aid and their Wembley performance in 1986 because they just stopped touring after that, and the public didn't really know what was going on until they saw Freddie in 1989 or 1990 looking really ill. Which made it a topic of discussion. That's just my opinion though
@@sir_sack I don't follow Brian May but Queen has a way of "popping up". The biopic, appearing on American Idol which lead to Adam Lambert's "joining"...I would add unplanned things like Seth Macfarlane's Ted movie which used Flash Gordon, a movie with Queen on the soundtrack. Heck, the new Highlander with Henry Cavil will probably have some version of Who Wants To Live Forever, introducing them yet again to a new audience.
Beethoven, Mozart, Bach.
Rick, you are absolutely fantastic. Although I listen to Bach frequently, the video you did on him and musiciansâ reactions to him led me to listen to his music even more. Thank you for what you do. FYI: I consider great music, of all genres, a portal to heaven. Maybe not a great phrase, but I mean it. Have an idea for you: Claptonâs âGroaning the Bluesâ from the â94 Scorsese documentary (finally released on DVD) back to back with âHoly Motherâ with Pavarotti. Talk about musicianship and range! On fire and in a musical trance followed by transcendence and the beauty of playing with restraint but deep, deep emotion.
I've had this conversation with my wife and friends. These songs are 50-plus years old. I graduated high school in the mid-70's. I can't imagine listening to...or buying...music from 1923, 24, 25...50 years prior. The fact that music from the 1960's and 70's still is relevant today is pretty incredible.
Yes, I tell young people this. I feel bad that they have to listen to the 60s 70s 80s or whatever. I wish they had current music that is good enough to make them not have any interest in my generation's music.
Part of it I think has to do with technology. The technology was so barebones in the 20s that it was hard to make a creative record shine.
Many of those hits are the backbone of contemporary music. Social media has blown up some, ignored others.
I was on Tik Tok last night and someone had added Zorba The Greek to their video. That tune has to be 50 years old but I think it is good enough they will be playing it in another 50
Oddly enough, Paul was a big fan of 1920â music because that was what his Dad played around the house. Paul recorded âJust Becauseâ which was composed in the late twenties.
Beatles, Zeppelin, Floyd, Talking Heads. All have songs that are timeless. I came home the other day to my son playing Beatles songs on the piano. Those songs came out 55 years ago and he has no connection to the cultural moment in which they were release, but he loves them because they are simply great songs. There are so many popular songs that will be forgotten, but these bands will last.
I love this list. Without any connection to spotify numbers my top three guesses for Rick's topic were Zep, Beatles, Floyd. Adding Heads to it is icing on the cake!
Talking Heads will be forgotten. They're fading fast as I write. What the Beach Boys did, just one example, was light years beyond Talking Heads
What about Queen!?
Somewhere in the top ten.
Pink Floyd released an album on 2014
Man, Dont Stop Me Now is fine, but there are probably 50+ queen songs id rather listen to, maybe 100.
Its not uncommon that a band will have a song that isnt their best or super representative of their catalog be their biggest hit, but its wild to have a song become such a prominent part of their catalog from tv and movie usage decades after any new material.
My favorite music of Queen is mostly on their first album.
Radiohead is a great example of this
Wow rick I'm travelling to work for the past 2 years now , using Australian public transport 28 minutes by train in that time I've been listening to all of those bands , you hit the nail on the head ,absolutely and when someone will say ' Hay Andrew you love music what are or have been listening to well every time it those artists
Bowie's estate or record label needs to hire a P.R. person to get the same impact as Queen for newer generations. His creativity deserves to be recognized in this mix of artists.
that's a fact. really better than any of these.
Yes, but Queens music is great for crowds, Bowies not so much.
I don't trust anyone who doesn't like Bowie.
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Has there been a Bowie movie?
Queen is the band that literally has something for everyone. Long, technical compositions for prog-heads. Funky disco tracks. Arena-pleasing hard rock anthems. Proto-metal headbangers. Freddie Mercury's impeccable voice and their imaginative videos for fans of musical theatre and the more standard kind. They invented the jock jam. Some of the sweetest love ballads. Nerdy soundtracks and songs about dragons for sci-fi fantasy nerds. And they always sound like they're having a good time. What's not to love?
For me Queen is the only band where I love every single song, I rarely find one that I skip when It comes on
Very well put. Versatility in craftmanship. Back in March 2001 at the Waldorf Astoria in NYC the R&R HOF Induction ceremony met Jer and Kashimira the mother and sister to Freddie and met Brian May. Didn't run into Roger but his wife at the time Debbie.
Also within musical theater the vaudevillian town hall pastiche. With the lead singer a little but if Liberace and Ethel Merman and Julie Andrew's. Throw in the Marx Brothers.
Nah. It really doesn't.
And I say that as a Queen fan.
@@davemeade4371 Please elaborate. Everything that was written I agree with.
Excellent video.
Zeppelin , Creedence , Bowie ( some songs) , the Who ( some songs ), Beatles ( the White Album ) the Stones ( Exile on Main Street ) , Journey ( again some songs ), Pink Floyd , and the Doors . Why the Doors ? They are a circular rotation band . They go in and out of fashion and will do that for eternity .
My admiration to you for including Journey. I agree, and if not some songs, at least "Don't Stop Believin'!"
@@debonairpandabear4698 Thank you since you were so kind I will put something else out there interesting . A roving editor in a magazine from the 90s ( I think Musicians ) said that in the coming cultural revisionism , the Velvet Underground will overtake the Beatles by 2040. Well that day is almost here but I personally donât see it happening but you never know . Posterity is a fickle thing . One of my favorite American Writers from the 20 th Century ,Carl Sandburg , got unjustly thrown under the bus by counter culture elitist academia revisionism
That has been on my mind forever. The day Rick interviews Paul or Ringo will be some of the best news this channel has ever had. And thereâs a ton of good news constantly!
I can't see Ringo doing it ...
Great idea. Both seem to be fairly accessible- I hope it happens soon!
That would be absolutely amazing!!!
Paul will do it.
Nah. They copyright strike him for playing their music even if it's for education al purposes. They are all about that money. They'd ask for a huge fee for that interview.
CCR are criminally overlooked on this channel. Over 35 million monthly listeners as I type this (more than most bands mentioned in this vid) and two songs with over 1 billion streams (and a third song not far behind). Their last official album of new material was released in 1972. Great timeless songs. Blueprint Moon should be on that list too. ;)
NatĂŒrlich!!! CCR ist mein lieblings!
fair point.
I agree, Rick should even do a video just about them and their huge streaming numbers. They had a lot of hits in the late 60's-early 70's but the level of their popularity today is surprising because they were never considered as iconic or legendary as some of their other contemporaries like Rolling Stones, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin yet today they top them all.
@@purplehaze1274 A CCR vid would be great. Good point about their popularity. I wonder if it may have something to do with the simplicity of the songs (in a good way). Theyâre basically standards now and have become part of the general repertoire. Also the lyrics are more relevant and timeless than say most Zeppelin lyrics (although I love Zeppelin too).
Yeah, and unlike the overrated bands mentioned here, they are tragically underrated in comparison.
You're absolutely right, the music and what it does to people when they listen to it is crucial. I'm quite sure that the four bands you mentioned will "live" forever. Thank you for this interesting perspective.
For me it's the creativity and depth of the songwriting that makes these bands great. I can think of some current artists that have that depth but it's too soon to say if they will last, though I suspect they will... I won't say who because I don't want to have a fight about it!
I have traveled all over the world - 30 plus countries over a period of 35 years - and the three bands that I always hear everywehere no matter the language/culture are: Beatles, ABBA, Bob Marley & The Wailers. There are many other widely popular bands, of course, but these ones jumped out as universally loved.
Bob Marley is loved in countries with a lot of brown people in my experience. Abba mostly white people. Beatles are the most universal
I saw a big Bob Marley painting on the front of a club in Kuala Lumpur.
â@@jontalbot1 Bob Marley is universally known i am from Portugal and there s a lot of cloths and stuff of Bob Marley
And MJ, too
That's kinda a good point. The most popular classics of 2100 won't necessarily be the whatever seems to be standing the test of time currently on spotify, because that doesn't represent the global audience, which will become a larger portion of streaming by that date. I could definitely see Bob Marley being bigger in 2100 than The Police.
Itâs all about the 60âs, 70âs, 80âs and 90âs having produced some of the most incredible recording artists that continue to span generations of time, people and their global cultures.
It is kind of fascinating when stopping to think about it for a bit.
A lot of that has to do with the fact that the recording industry hadn't completely consolidated. There was a lot more room for some experimentation, especially in the '60s. Now, all the music that I hear is pretty much the same, I have no idea who did any of it and have a hard time identifying that it was different groups.
I know old farts (like me) always say that contemporary music is crap but music today truly is overproduced crap. I can't wait for the pendulum to swing and we get some raw, talented, and unique music again.
I would add the 50's in there as well. Great rockers like Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis, and Little Richard won't ever be forgotten.
And also, those songs were in movies , making them more popular, then a new generation saw those movies, they continued to be popular, leading them to be in more movies and generally ubiquitous in pop culture. Itâs impossible to not hear these songs
The golden age of rock is long gone...
Would be wonderful to listen to a conversation between you and Sir Paul!
Rick as usual you hit the nail right on the head. I'm a little surprised about Prince he's my favorite on your list and had the least amount of listeners.
Mozart, Bach, Queen, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Scott Joplin, Robert Jonson.....etc... so many insanely talented artists, for centuries people will know their music. When all else has gone, may their music play on............
I agree with the others. Who the hell are Scott Joplin and Robert Jonson?
you had me until the Scott Joplin and Robert Johnson...Who tf are they?
â@@noahpincus8344 Typos. Janis Joplin and Robert Johnson.
If you donât know Scott Joplin do yourself a favor and look him up. And while you are at it also listen to Edward Macdowell, Charles Ives, Jelly Roll Morton, and Cab Calloway.
John Bonham!!
Go listen to Misty Mountain Hop!! Just do it. Yeah!!!!
Pink Floyd, led Zeppelin
Yep. Beatles, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd⊠maybe Nirvana. Or Queen.
Pink is far superior
The Rolling Stones
Tina Turner
Also CCR
ELO is still rocking after 54 years. Jeff Lynne's ELO will have 32 concerts in North America this Summer and Fall of 2024.
RIP Mr. Tandy and thank you!
One of the giants of music. Far ahead of Clapton. Producer, guitarist, singer and session man, even in the Travelling Willburys.. One of the greatest. Another, far less known, still touring. is Steve Hackett. (musician at the top for about 54 years.
@@richardjames3446 Absolutely!
It fine that you are making your theory from Spotify data.
As long as you realize that it is a segment of music listeners, not everyone.
Also, on the topic of Queen's eternal popularity... In the mid 1990's, I was flipping through the bins of my local record store across from a couple rocker dudes with Poison hair and studded leather jackets. Bohemian Rhapsody came on the store speakers and they both looked at each other and said "WAYNE'S WORLD!" That what the moment I knew they had been immortalized
On the list of Rock Stars Who Benefitted By Dying, Freddie Mercury is #3, just behind #2 Elvis and #1, MJ.
@@NJGuy1973 John Lennon? Kurt Cobain? George Harrison? just from Rick's four bands.
Queen had no way to reproduce their heavily overdubbed records live. But their sound is so distinctive, dramatic and dynamic, that they give that impression. That's part of their magic.
Queen was never heard of until they were asked to write Bohemian Rhapsody for Wayne's World. They took off in popularity after that.
Source: Any member of my class of 1994.
Rick didn't mention it, but that Wayne's World bit was the first time I remember Queen getting revived for a younger generation. And that's happened several times now at least. Whoever is in charge of licensing Queen's music is a genius.
As a music teacher, we talk about this in class A LOT! I often start off with something along the lines of "Why do we still know Bach's name 274 years after he died?" And it shortly gets followed by "Will we still know _____________ in 100 years?" (I've been teaching a while. The blank has changed a lot over the years, but I used Bieber for a long time) It's worth pointing out that a majority of my grade nines don't know the Beatles. And a majority of my grade 11s and 12s have them on their playlists and are certain they'll still be well known in 100 years. Queen was very popular amongst my students long before Bohemian Rhapsody came out. It's very clear that what parents listen to is a huge impact on this. A lot of dads play a lot of Metallica.
A student I had once told me his favorite song was the 30 minute version of Inna Godda Da Vida. But I'm sickened by what passes as music these days being foisted on these kids...especially the auto-tuned vocals, which apparently now kids say they PREFER over natural voices.
@@j.d.waterhouse4197 Watch a Taylor Swift concert on TV, then watch Led Zeppelin, The Song Remains The Same at Madison Square Garden in 1973. Just like coming home from school to look at a screen, or get out on your BMX bike and ride around until you know dinner is ready.
Was listening to Johann Pachelbel Canon in D Major earlier this evening and thinking the exact same thing, is there any music today that people will listen to, and find magical in 270 years time. Doubt it.
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"Why do we still know Bach's name 274 years after he died?" You can thank Felix Mendelson in part...from a retired music teacher. what is sad is we glorify only one medium or source of music, kids do Not know Gershwin, Ellington, Dvorak, etc and are not "trained" to care, and now we have adults running around with peer pressure and corporate radio and other controlled media playlist impressions about classical and jazz music, [in short they have no damn clue] very little knowledge about world music, [including my old bones self lol]. But also, I have always said regarding the funding of school music programs by hack amateur local school boards and the hack amateur United States Government..."You'll never see a weed growing in a football stadium."
I still listen to all my music on CD & will long after Spotify is gone
CDs unfortunately don't last forever. Especially if not stored correctly.
Rick, you should do an episode on the top 5 or 10 deceased artists that you would love to have interviewed and why.
This question reminds me of your video on The Bach Effect. It was amazing to hear all of those musicians and songwriters talk about how his work influenced their understanding of music.
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Nirvana are shite. There I said it. In fact all grunge is mince.
@@jconnon I guess people just like listening to shite music.
@@roberthevern6169 Brother, if you sang out of tune I would never walk out on you! Keep on Rockinâ đ
Letâs hope so! Your closing argument was music that was âcreativeâ. Amen to that! Each of the bands you mentioned hopefully will delight new listeners who love music for millenniums.
Rick, I must say ny brother. YOU ARE JUST THE BEST!!! I really mean it!
Bands that "cancel/copywrite strike" people like Rick and others will also fade away over time. Once the generation dies that listen to these old bands that strike or don't stream, they'll be forgotten about.
It's the bands that share, let people listen to them and stay on these modern platforms, even for sales, are staying relevant to history.
Letting new people enjoy old music is what will keep the legends alive.
It is a disaster that Motown was kept that brilliance under lock and key while the artists need go fund me pages for health care these days.
Exactly right. I introduced my grand baby to Prince when she was just a toddler. Before is death, it would have been impossible to just play video after video of him performing and his music is best watched or danced to.
Yep! Rick didn't mention it but Queen is notable in being far ahead of the game when it comes to encouraging the online spread of their music. They don't copyright strike anyone who uses their stuff in their videos, because they see that as advertising that benefits them. Conversely, the Beatles resisted for *years* even having a channel on CZcams or selling their music on the Apple store. With that dumb policy, they missed out on a ton of exposure to newer generations. Is it any wonder that so many younger people love Queen now but view the Beatles as overrated "grandpa music"?
@@hux2000 EMI and the estates thought that they'd play the long game and make access to the Beatles so rare that it goes up in value. However, Queen played the other long game that won out more. Just because you have a long game and it sounds established doesn't mean it's going to equate to full success over that time. Ah well, decisions.
Who's Don Henley?
Hate them or love them - ABBA will never die.
Musicals, movies, avatar concerts..
They keep being relevant.
And to me, they represent all that was wrong with RADIO at the time..
Just my opinion
(Shhh, I may have liked 'Fernando' a tiny bit....shhh!)
But they do have the same ingredient that he mentions here at the end of this post... Great songs! Really, some of the best written songs in history. AND... Kurt Cobain was a fan of ABBA... so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, all you music snobs!
Yep, love Abba
I think rick focuses more on rock
I agree
True creativity that speaks to people's hearts deserves to be remembered, and it will be.
Something to consider. Quite often on Spotify or CZcams music when a user selects a song, the next recommended song comes up according to Spotifys reccomendation engine or whatever. The songs on those bands seem to be the go to Generic Rock genre because man I get the Police and Nirvana creeping in way more than necessary even if I'm listening to something like The Eagles or Fleetwood Mac (example only). If there was a way to check the users selection from search or library that would be interesting to see the numbers comparing to most streamed which is still legit
As a Brit, I should point out that 3 out of the 4 are from our little country!
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There is a phrase, if you want a tune made go to Britain. If you want it played technically go to America
Maybe that's because most Spotify users are Brits? đ
Claiming The Police as a British band is a bit of a stretch, considering their drummer, producer, and record label. But you make a valid point on the others. Cheers.
Cheers.
I had the supreme pleasure of seeing Queen live in concert at the height of their powers in ~1980; what hit me most about it was how good it sounded. The concert sounded like the tracks on the album - the vocals, the instruments, the mixing - it was all awesome. Then the interactions between Freddy and the crowd - that was just icing on the cake. Not only was he a superb vocalist and writer, he was an excellent showman - God bless him. We miss you Freddy!
I saw them live in Melbourne in 1985 (I was 17) on their Radio GaGa tour and I have to say your assessment is 100% correct. From the sound to Freddy's interactions with the audience... just brilliant.
I was recording myself and had come out of a studio in Glasgow. Sitting under the bridge at Glasgow Central train station Dunkin Donuts at 2am is when I heard that Freddy was gone. There used to be newspapermen with the early morning editions and that is how everyone heard at the same time over a donut and early morning coffee.
In those days I went to see almost any band that came to Charlotte NC. I bought a ticket to see Queen just because they came there and didn't expect much. I liked them ok just from the radio. But I was blown away...one of the best live performances I've ever seen!
Pah! Zat eez nuttin'! I saw Queen live in 1975 at the Glasgow Apollo, when they had just recorded Bo Rap! The Upper Levels of the Theatre literally vibrated!
Cmon people, it's FreddIE.
I hope that Rick Beato's content is watched well into 21, 2200 and beyond
Yep authenticity is what these people's strove for with the right tools, and sometimes just hit the nail on the head once is all you need so to speak
May your channel achieves that longevity too, and that future generations will still be able to be inspired by the greats youâve interviewed when they look back at all the work youâve done. â€
Bob Marley and the Wailers deserved to be mentioned surely. Bob died way back in 1981 and his music has 26 million monthly listeners, "Three Little Birds" being close to one billion streams. His legacy is huge and continues to inspire millions around the world.
Never even heard of them lol
I know itâs not spelled out but pretty sure he meant only Rock bandsâŠ
Guilty of listening to him today. Because he's a unique vibe.
defo
â@@dagsctBob is pretty close to rock reggae..
Literally Roots, Rock, Reggae
Queen is so much a part of popular culture via advertising. One night my wife and I were streaming some shows with ads (yes, we are cheap), and there were multiple commercials with different Queen songs. The music just sounds fresh and translates well to today's media.
My personal picks are Beatles, AC/DC, Eagles, Led Zeppelin. (need a list of 5 to include Rolling Stones).
In 76 years, these will easily stand the test of time.
My sons are in their early 20s now, theyâve come to me many times over the years about songs theyâve heard on Grand Theft Auto and other video games. The game creators are introducing a lot of great classic stuff to a whole new generation. Itâs pretty cool!
Video games and popular anime has been reviving interest in so many vintage songs and artists. That may be the key element to all this.
You raise an important point. By 2100, nobody will be listening for the sake of nostalgia anymore. So it will depend on new audiences being introduced to these groups. I bet of the groups listed, Nirvana has the most aging Gen-X listeners at the moment.
@@Salmagundiii Yes, my guess is that it's ultimately going to be whatever groups recorded the most standards and were able to get into the most movies that people still listen to. Especially anybody that manages their way into the Christmas Canon. Getting in there ensures that you'll be listened to forever. I was kind of surprised that nobody has mentioned Bing Crosby as he's been the best selling vocalist ever, with outright sales that are competitive with the number of times some of these songs have been played. And he's recorded Christmas canon songs, been incorporated in movies that retain popular appeal many decades later as well.
Also, I think Spotify putting songs into playlists and pushing those helps with some bands numbers
Yeah this helps old bands way more than Rick realises, the big record labels are paying Spotify to push only the biggest acts in playlists.
If Spotify didn't support better sound quality, you'll definitely not have Spotify in 2100 đđđđđ
Facts
yeah, the numbers are in their algorithms. You search a band and play their station and spotify with just feed you the same hits over and over.
So, because Spotify tells people to listen something they just do?
Ok... Then, it's been great for Queen. My fav band ever!
great songs are great songs in any time period and if you made an impact on a generation at the same time all the better for your future legacy
Saw queen with Adam Lambert and they were fantastic in concert. I also saw the struts and I am convinced they will be the next big arena concert band.
As always, great concepts and entertaining perspectives. I would LOVE to see your reaction/analysis of one of "Royal Blood's" tracks, Pull Me Through, as I find this group to be groundbreaking.
Rick, I hope Paul as well as Ringo come on your channel for an interview - I would Love to see thatđ
But what would they talk about??? ;)
They could talk about Ringoâs drummingâŠ.and trips to India
Radio.
From the 60s to the 90s, a handful of radio stations focused *the entire nation* on a relative handful of bands.
Then the internet fractured our attention and our culture, allowing us all to specialize into a greater number of bands in the long tail. It's much harder now for any single band to reach the massive level of acceptance that the best bands of the radio era achieved.
Love the beard!
Stones still recording/touring!
But the Beatles achieved Shakespeare-like immortality.
@@JHimminy uhhhh, no
I was a huge Beatles head back in college, now I always skip their songs đ
The Stones are insignificant in the big picture of creativity and longevity. Heck, they are insignificant NOW, lol.
@@MusicMan73790 you have no idea what those words mean
@@MusicMan73790 What are you even talking about? That's simply wrong. Are you, like, 22?
Hey Rick. Love the vid. You should do a video like this, but for solo rock artists
I think a great follow up to this video would be "Musicians that will probably be forgotten in the future but shouldn't be." I would love to see your thoughts. I work with younger people and I'm surprised by the artists they don't remember such as Tom Petty.
All 4 bands have members who still tour (under their own or with new bands) and also are played heavily by radio stations.
Beatles, Stones, Who, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd are my five who will be played in 100 years. It's also worth noting that modern multitrack recording is relatively new in human history. A lot of secular music is lost to history since 'regular' people/musicians could not read or write. This isn't a problem in modern times since even artists with no music theory can record music on a budget. Thus, more artists from the 1950s on will be played/remembered simply due to the fact people can and will still be able to actually listen to music of the past.
The doors will always be played, maybe not hugely popular but always remain relevant. For the soul fact they sound like no other band and still sonically great.
@@CombatMedic1Ofacts
Fleetwood Mac has regained more popularity since that skateboard video and now has 33 million monthly listeners. Plus, Rumours will still be catchy and timeless at 2100.
Also the amazon prime series was loosely based on Fleetwood Mac so people probably looked them up because of that. I think its called Daisy Jones and the Six or something similar
My daughter was home for college this past Christmas and we drove down to NYC and she put on one of her playlists and Fleetwood Mac was one of the songs on her list. Plenty of new stuff I hadn't heard of, but Fleetwood Mac was one of the older songs she had on her playlist. Thought it was cool that she was listening to older songs like that.
I think it helped that Daisy Jones and the Six also renewed interest in Fleetwood Mac because that fictional band were essentially caricatures of Fleetwood Mac.
So true. Dreams is still one of the greatest songs ever. I remember when it was a new song on the radio, my mother driving the car circa 77. 47 years later still sounds fresh. Bitter sweet 1970âs, Miss you mom.
They've only got 1 or 2 decent songs though.
The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, ABBA. Massive during their time and still massive now.
I feel it's great to hear how popular songs from 1980's rock bands still are. I'm glad to hear about especially 80's bands songs still being so popular, also because I'm still doing the hard metal-ish rock music artist thing at 56 years old, and it makes me feel hopeful that I can still gain enough fans. Right now I'm composing my songs in Bandlab because I don't have any instrument and don't have money for any, but I met a electric guitar player who said he'd like to play electric guitar for me, and has been getting a band together and he's 50, so hearing how popular especially 1980's band songs still are, makes me feel hopeful enough that specially with that guy and his band, that them and me together might still be able to aquire enough fans. That's probably if I get listening more to them 80's and 90's rock bands songs more, to really learn what's made their songs still so popular.
love the passion. you are the best Rick
Each of those groups, in their own way, introduced their audience to something new and different from other groups. Most of it was the unique song writing as well as the arrangement of the songs and the unique voices that sang them. Very distinct productions!
Completely agree. Nicely put!
I agree and I would go further. While photographs evoke memories, music evokes feelings and our favorite songs are often the timeline to our lives.
Correction: Queen have released several albums since Freddy Mercury died!
Most notably "Made in Heaven" which features the voice of Freddy Mercury.
Hey Rick, have ever tried to secure an interview with Ringo or Paul. Bet they would oblige. Look fwd. to it if you could pull it off. Love ur site.
Queen is unique in the sense that they were so completely larger than life but so immediately relatable and accessible in their music. I grew up on them practically from birth and 46 years later itâs still as fresh as the first time I listened to it for the first time. Freddie, Brian, John and Roger hit that perfect creative mix that transcends the passage of time
Queen really have gone on to get bigger and bigger with the intervening years. Somebody to Love and Dont Stop Me Now have become almost standards in a way that they weren't during the true life of the band (i.e. before Freddie died). We Are the Champions, We Will Rock You and Another One Bites the Dust will go on forever just through sporting events alone. There's real variety in their music and advertisers love them. Was amazed that Cool Cat ended up in that Amazon advert not that long ago.
They had such great albums too. Everyone knows the hits but the songs on the albums that a lot of people donât know are fantastic. So there is a lot to find after the initial hits. My young relatives love queen albums. Itâs just great music.
@@theonlyredspecial I've always considered it something of a cultural crime that very few people have ever even heard Queen I (titled "Queen"). When I first it in 1973, It was the heaviest music I had heard since Hendrix. "Keep Yourself Alive" was a minor hit and "Liar" did well in the U.K, but it didn't get played here in the states. Neither did Queen II, which was equally fantastic. "Killer Queen" put them on the map and then "Bohemian Rhapsody." I think Freddie's influence led the band away from hard rock and into more theatrical compositions, but my personal favorites will always be those first two albums.
@@keithstover2899 yes queen I and queen Ii were fantastic. Would be considered prog rock I suppose but back in those days I donât think anything was classified so heavily as it has been in recent years. They were young men with so many creative ideas and those albums were just flowing with so many great riffs and fantastical lyrics. Father to son and white queen were two of my favourites. Played to death when I was a child. A night at the opera also remains in my mind as my older female cousin brought the vinyl over to our house and I listened to it in complete awe, never sure of what was going to happen next.
They are known for their hit singles but they were an album band. Some of my favourite songs on their albums were never released as singles.
They'll be all but gone by 2100. That's a LONG time for a band that has already all but disappeared once already.
Love your channel Rick. I have a suggestion for a guest. The great Mike Post. His musical genius can be heard on many TV's biggest shows not to mention working with Mason Williams on Classical Gas, Eddie Van Halen on Van Halen III (there's gotta be some good studio stories from that album). He has a long list of credits. He just released a Bluegrass/Blues album. I think he would be a great guest... Am I wrong?
AC/DC, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, and Pink Floyd are a few I know will still be popular.
I really enjoy your excitement and enthusiasm for this music.
AWESOME DISCUSSION!
One word...
TIMELESS
Heâs absolutely right! đ€
I was surprised to not hear Creedence Clearwater Revival being mentioned. No records released since '72, yet they have over 35 million monthly listeners on Spotify.
or Abba with 31.6m (although they made an album some years ago)
CCR and The Rolling Stones share a huge built in advantage in longevity: both of them signed away publishing rights to their managers who worked tirelessly to sell them out to anyone willing to write a check. As a result both of them are featured in dozens of movie soundtracks because unlike many artists they have always been an automatic yes to anyone who wants them on a soundtrack.
And CCR basically did what they did in just 2 years and 5 months.
All the listeners are going to die before 2100, nirvana or something is still gaining young listeners and will keep it alive past 2100
@@anthornn9893 The Beatles had 30m listeners some monzhs ago. They gain a lot aswell. I am student in Vienna and everyone likes the Beatles here, they are defending popular.
Always clarity. Thank you, Rick!
Love this list! Rolling stones should be on there too! Saw them 11 yrs ago finally! That was on my bucket list since i was 7yrs old. Im 33yrs old now and i never thought i would ever see them live, but those chaps were rocking and kicking and honestly one of the greatest live shows ive seen. It was an emotional experience to say the least I so wish i had seen the Beatles, Queen or Nirvana in my lifetime. Joy Division/ New order too. â€
Would love you to interview Paul
"We Are the Champions!" will be played forever at sports events!
Yeah, but so will Rock & Roll by Gary Glitter and I don't think he'll be forever remembered.
@agricolaurbanus6209 Don't bet on it, it's already been largely replaced by seven nation army in recent times unfortunately.
@@sierrabianca What are the "Seven Nations" btw? The G7 ??? I heard that is not a winning team. I would bet "We Are the Champions" will make a comeback!đ
@@agricolaurbanus6209 Here's hoping..
Not from a band, but I do remember seeing a crowd singing, âAlways Look On The Bright Side Of Lifeâ (from The Life Of Brian) when the home team was getting clobbered.
All 4 artists had a unique sound and style at a time when the world was changing and ready to appreciate it.
The Beatles broke the mould so these other unique artists got through. Fab4forever
Fair enough Rick, defining that idea up to year 2100 considering how many times a song has been "approached" by Spotify users.
How many years from now, the criteria would be "How many people's hologram has been attending a Virtual Concert? đ€ đ
Ok, question for you I'd love to see a video on.
What qualifies a song to be the "greatest song in the world" to quote Tenacious D!
My buddies and I all have our favorites, and pretty much all of the songs in our lists can't really be argued with. But I want to know not what your list is, but more importantly, what you think makes these songs so important to us?
I know you can look at popularity, or monetary stats, but I don't really believe that that explains it. I'm sure their are songs out there right now that get more play and make more money then B.O.C ever did, but will they live on for years to come? Longevity and new listeners has to count for something?
How is it that some of those bands you just mentioned continue to pull in new listeners? What is the magic ingredient to you, that makes epics like Stairway to Heaven, or Comfortably Numb transcend generations? I remember hearing Smells like Teen Spirit the first time and feeling like I was hearing the anthem of our time, so how is it resonating as much in this day?
We don't even get exposure to songs and artists the same way anymore, so I got to believe it's something about the music itself.
Your reflection is incredibly spot on, Rick! đ„
Many of these songs dont automatically "date" by their sound or feel if you werent aware when they released, which is why i think they resonate. My 18 y/o grandson clued me to this when he said Asia's Heat of the Moment didnt seem like early 80s a few days ago. Musically, we have certainly lived in interesting times. Thank you Rick!
I hear and think this most about Pink Floyd. They're one of these few bands that every other band seemed to say, "Yup, that's them, that's perfectly them, I ain't touchin' it!". So they don't sound attached to a particular era's sound. Even Gilmour said that Waters pushed hard to make sure their music didn't sound like a particular period, and that after he left, they produced albums that Gilmour thought, "Oh Waters was right... this sounds so '80s!" (paraphrase)
Interesting point, though, much of the Beatles' catalogue sounds very much of its era to my ears--production, tones, style, etc. (and I say that as a fan). Nirvana sounds old-fashioned to me now. Queen, though, tend to be so sui generis, with their free mix of styles and genres and influences, that they don't sonically register as of a particular era as readily.
Queen... simply ageless. And you are right
Rick, when you think about Freddie Mercury, you see this unstoppable character on the Live Aid stage. He will be this extremely talanted young man forever.
Nope will be forgotten.
I thought you were talking about real rock bands, my subjective list would include: Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Queen, finally The Eagles (I know Long road to Eden 2007) with AC/DC, again I know Black Ice 2008 and Rock or Bust 2014. I can guarantee that these bands music will be around for a LONG LONG time. These are true Icons of Rock and Roll!!!
Remember Bach was almost forgotten as a composer after his death and was only revived in the 19th Century. There's hope for Freddie and the Dreamers yet!
Vivaldi similar.
Thank you Felix Mendelssohn!
Calling the Freddy and Dreamers revival. At some point, society will need a singer that hops around and acts strange.
@@pepmasters-999Vivaldi would be better left forgottenâŠ.
@@OlivierVerdys Absolutely!
It's always nice to hear about my favorite band in a context like this. Thank you.
Beatles, Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin and Rush ( I know Rush had the last album not too long ago) but all 4 of these bands are so unique, that they will be the Mount Rushmore in Rock History I think.
Plus what are these stats on other platforms besides Spotify? You can hear the same song play on Spotify 3 times in the hour. I think the numbers might be skewed a bit?
Rick we need your low down on the 620 songs that have over a billion streams on Spotify - thereâs about 3 songs that get added a weekâŠsome really surprising ones too
Great stuff Rick. What you are talking about here is MELODY. If you look at these timeless tracks you will see that what they all have in common is incredibly creative melody. This is in STARK contrast with the cookie cutter junky 1,5,6,4 disposable stuff released today. Look at the chord structures too, and youll see that all but one (every breath) have beautiful original progressions. This promotes clever and creative melody writing that stands the test of time. Yesterday, oh my word.
Love your work, J
Queen was my favourite band as a kid and it's great to see their music is still relevant and appreciated. I think they should try to do an album of new music with Adam Lambert who has been so amazing as a front man and keeping them going as a touring entity.
I think Rick makes a great point about having a limited discography -- to the bands he mention I would add Creedence, Joy Division, and probably the White Stripes. And had U2 not released the mediocre albums of the 21st century, they would probably deserve inclusion in Rick's list: 21 monthly listeners, 1 billion listens for With or Without You... seriously, their last big single was 2004's Vertigo, and I'd say their last great song was the buried Songs of Innocence bonus track Crystal Ballroom from 10 years back.
Mr.Beatos:
An interesting version of "The Beatles " song "Blackbird" is sung by Emma Stevens in her native language of M'Kaq (MiK MaK) from New Brunswick. It is on CZcams. Rumours are that it impressed Sir Paul so much he contacted her.
I love these hypotheticals Rick, keep em coming!
Wait, he has no proof?! But, he has cred!!!
My hypothetical is that RUSH will be played in 2100.
@@infinitysconcinnity2418they have only 4m monthy listeners..