What Happened to Echo After Bad Batch and During Rebels!?
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Well echo could be retired because choochie was trying to make something for the clones so that when they were out of service they could retire
And maybe also the clones who are experimented on were also just wanted to be retired
Somewhere Rex and Greg are met up and found wolf. I guess they stuck together and retired on a desert planet pretty much and then when rebels came they got back into the fight
I like that idea. Maybe the path he chose was to take care of his clone brothers and nothing more. Maybe he settles down on Pantora 😊
Chuchi seems to like Echo as they had that moment in Season 2.
I’m not gunna lie I thought you said Coochie i had to re read that like 3 times 😂
It’s an enormous galaxy. Having the same people always interacting makes the galaxy smaller.
Couldn’t agree more! Was going to comment that too but you beat me to the punch, my friend.
Just look at the mandalorian
Just because we don’t see omega participate as a pilot doesn’t mean she wasn’t there. We focused on those involved with the Skywalker crew all through the OT. The rebel alliance was an entire battle force. Everyone in that force has a story, it’s just not the story that we were focusing on. Band of brothers doesn’t feature the pacific rim conflict yet those soldiers were still part of the war.
A great point
Totally. There are tons of stories and character interactions happening off-screen. That's what the "Tales of.." series shows us too.
Echo death was never confirmed
@Mouse3588 ..
"Government sources said that they could neither confirm nor deny the demise of
Clone Trooper Echo, Echo,Echo, Echo, Echo Echo Ec . . ."
As I just got finished saying, it's not like MacArthur and Patton spent most of WW2 palling around together. And we are just one little planet not a whole galaxy.
Loved the ending, I did hate that scorch died without much story telling and we still have no clue what happened to delta squad
By not spending much time on them and leaving things open it gives the possibility they could return. Particularly with Tales of the Empire coming out
@@joshdunne8792 Imagine a tales of the clones show. On Delta squad, Echo and Rex their operation and possibly how they found Wolffe
I refuse to believe he's scorch, he might have a similar armor but personality wise he's just another nameless clone
@@darthvaderisawesome2573 He's litterally creditted as him...
@@darthvaderisawesome2573
The chip and torture can change someone
Even if Echo doesn't show up the happy part of that is he isn't there because it's his choice.
What people misunderstand is that rebelion wasn;t just at one place, battle of endor wasn't the end of the empire, during the battle of endor were multiple battles around the galaxy. IF we have multiple events that are happening in the same time like the freedom of Corusant or the idependece of a planet we could justify were Omega and others were fithing on other parts of the galaxy
That's so true. Echo, Cody, Omega, and maybe even the Batch could have been out there fighting too.
@@MarcelaKPreininger After season 3 i really dont see the batch wanting to fight anymore apart from omega, ever since season 2 they have been thinking about retiring.
@@Theworldisscrewed Agreed, but they might come out of retirement for one last mission - or a few.
We got Tales of the Jedi
We got Tales of the Sith
Could we get Tales of the Clones
I think we got most of the clones tales in the clone wars show, no?
The whole Clone Wars series is Tales of the clones
Well if we being honest over half the series is the 501st we hardly see any other clone battalions in the series when they did they got one episode or popped up for one quick scene
Tales of the Selkath
i see my husband and his men in the bad batch. All combat veterans and full of stories and experiences that i can’t even comprehend. I am watching a good man who has given his life and our children age and i can remember his youth. I’m happy to see this ending because i see life in it. I’m happy to see my husband found use with his brothers in arms. I see my husband as being like Hunter and always putting himself in harm’s way for others.
Girl, I'll fight you for Hunter
@@smookypooch my husband native language he is called “umzingeli” which translates to hunter.
it’s also one of his hobbies.
@@smookypooch Hunter's mine! LOL!
Especially that rather fatherly line Hunter imparts to Omega, " If you need us, you know where to find us".
@@Himmiefan bring it
just because echo is not with Rex doesn't mean he is Dead
Omega was in that battle of scarif as an x wing pliot who escaped before the stardestroyers showed
It’s time for Mark Hammil to play an animated Luke Skywalker.
I always daydreamed/fantasized that the clones got out & retired on a tropical island after the way they was used throughout the wars & empire. Glad to see it come true. Clones honestly deserve better so I was happy to see this come true 🤙
Echo really has been through far worse than many of his brothers. Part of Domino Squad, was there when 99 heroically died, was the sole survivor of Domino. Believed to be KIA but infact was criticality wounded ,turned into a cyborg and was forced into giving intelligence to the Separatists that ended up in the deaths of his brothers and the Jedi. All of that changed him just like the second battle of Geonosis did for Cutter. I would see Echo deciding when his fight was over, to go visit Cutter and his family and just farm.
I grew up with the Clone Wars and kinda see the Bad Batch as a continuation of the Clone Wars. So the end of TBB is, in a way, the end of TCW as well. And thus, the end of my childhood 😢
I keep thinking about Tech, "Change is an inevitable part of life" but it still hurts 😭
@@MarcelaKPreininger indeed 😢
Agreed
The finale was great, but I hated it because we didn't get to see what happens to Cody. I'm a bit pissed about this because I hate it when people leave the major plot points. For example: Jonathan Hickman left important elements that would've tied to the return of the Ultimate Universe. Such as the original Ultimates being alive, Ultimate Spider-Man alive in a revived Ultimate Universe at the end of Spider-Men II.
Same
To me that just confirmed another clone series. There's no way dave would have left them out unless there was something else in the works
@@shanem4399 Agreed. If the Bad Batch story was about soldiers finding peace after the war. Then Echo's and Cody's journey would be soldiers who couldn't escape the war and continue on fighting. Their deaths would be the tragedy that will make Rex give up the fight.
Wolfe too
Tbf it is called the bad batch not the clone wars
Echo has always been my favorite character ever since I saw his debut on Cartoon Network so it cool seeing him make through the finale. We Ned to see what becomes of him I just, I just rather see his death on screen then off screen.
Honestly I like the idea of keeping these questions unanswered at least most of them, I’ve said this multiple times at this point-there is nothing wrong with keeping things up to the fans interpretation, I do hope we get to find out how Rex went from what he was during the in the bad Batch to who he became in Rebels but other still like Omega in the Rebellion could stay unanswered.
From the Rebels finale isn't it canon that Rex fought at the Battle of Endor?
Yes. The old guy in Return of the Jedi that pulls out his blaster is now being called Rex, even though that character already has another name. Dave Filoni just said, hey if you want to believe it's Rex then go with it.
@@dirtyhawkstv1575 Yes my understanding was that the Rebels finale made clear that Rex was there, but it's up to us as to whether or not to believe the old bearded guy in ROTJ that looks a lot like Rex is really him.
@@krishnar1182 Rebels mentioned Hera by name at Endor but didn't mention Rex by name.
@@ashleighelizabeth5916 I thought Sabine said Rex fought at the Battle of Endor.
@@dirtyhawkstv1575 I beg your pardon, you are correct. I must be suffering from Mandela Effect as I just checked and confirmed your information.
Rebels takes place before Episode 4 thou... and it wasn't an established 'Rebellion' until the Death Star blew up as as far as I can remember.
This. The time-skip most likely takes place around the time of "Empire Strikes Back" since the Rebellion is already established, and they are in need of new soldiers.
It was by then. In Rebels, we see Mon Mothma bringing together all the small rebellions into one formal organization.
I think it would be nice if we DON'T see Omega interacting with Luke or Hera or any other big characters. They try to make the galaxy and the Rebellion tiny, but it was HUGE. The odds that characters interact are small, there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in the Rebellion, hundreds of worlds. It's unrealistic to constantly have these people meet.
Exactly! I like to think they did meet up we just didn't see it. We don't see every day of their lives, just a glimpse
Echo is more a machine than a human, his life expectancy should be worse than regular clones which are already aging much faster.
The first time we hear “The Calvary has Arrived” is when we are introduced to the Bad Batch in the Clone Wars season 7. It had to be just the Bad Batch saving Omega, and the other prisoners
Just to state the obvious.
Echo was killed at the Citadel when Rebels aired. If we saw Echo in Rebels back in 2015, it would not have made sense to viewers.
except he was rescued in the unfinished arc...everyone knew he survived
Galaxy is thousands of planets and is a galaxy wide conflict. Just because we don't see them on screen doesn't equal they're dead.
i think the reason echo isn’t seen in rebels is cause in clone wars he was dead to viewers from the citadel they brought him back in season 7 after rebels already long ended , them airing rebels really messes up the suspense
I’m still surprised that Pabu was not raided again by the Empire I’m guessing the imperials on Tantis probably lost the coordinates from here after their base has been destroyed and no one else lives lives to tell for it.
I reckon thats the case, because cx 2 did send the coordinates to tantiss only, i dont think tarkin knew probably because he would have informed palpatine which would have him lose trust in hemlock for allowing clones to escape in the first place.
Its a huge qalaxy omega is just another soilder in an army and the bad batch are retired
wonder if they are going to change echo base so that it was named to honor echo
I hope he’s still alive because I want his life to be after the end of the Empire. He’s still alive, restoring the republic and maybe he and Emery probably got shipped by now and start a family of their own.
A clone rebellion series has been me dream Star Wars project for years, hope it comes through
Echo is a great character with an amazing arc. I hope he makes it and we see him again.
Just because characters are introduced into canon before the timeline of the original trilogy doesn't necesarrily now mean they MUST show up in that trilogy. That trilogy was all about luke, han and leia, hell, even Yoda's line in ROTJ about luke being the last jedi (and he should have stayed that way) could even still be said to be true; Cal settled down on that isolated planet with Merin, Ezra was off playing tag with an apparently very useless thrawn, Ahsoka wasn't a jedi. Just because we don't see a character, doesn't mean they weren't there. And i actually like the idea of some of the characters being so traumatised they just turned their backs entirely.
Exactly!
Honestly, every character doesn’t have to be on the main screen from one of the major movies. There’s nothing implying that echoes dead. He just wasn’t on the island when she left. That’s why he’s not mentioned. She didn’t mention Rex doesn’t mean that he’s dead. The only reason we know he isn’t at the time is cause he’s in later material. As for giving up and retiring, let’s not forget that Rex also gave up and retired. He just happened to come back after meeting the ghost crew. These new characters from any of the shows could easily have participated in any of the major battles from the movies just had been in a different location. It’s not some small town or everybody knows everybody..
I would say echo not being mentioned in the epilogue of season 3 bad batch is somewhat of an indicator that he died before then, otherwise i think he would have been in rebels.
Makes you wonder if Echo Base is named after him. I always wondered if there is a connection.
Omega is met by Sabine at some point - who has Omega's doll Lula (and Jin Ersin's doll Starrie) painted on the wall of her room (Ahsoka ep. 1).
I bet the Rex show will feature Echo and will take place in between the pabu scene and the epilogue. I think this is where we will see echos death and then that will explain why he wasn’t there
I think we're definitely in for more, there's a lot of unanswered things and if they gave the bad batch the spotlight they can definitely give Rex, Cody, wofflee and many others the spotlight in their own series
Echo and the rest of the clones that he and Emerie rescued could have been in Pantorra by now, probably serving Senator Chuchi by helping their fellow clones at first, and then soon helping out the growing Rebel Alliance of Senator Mothma as either rebel operatives or intel/ reconnaissance. They could or could not be fighters of the Rebellion, but that's honestly cool too. Given that the clones have such an undying loyalty and sense of duty, but that they're also individuals and can make their own choices and are definitely exhausted from all the torment they experienced with the Clone Wars and the Empire, either they willingly joined the Rebellion to the end because of their service to Pantorra or just chilled out and retired somewhere. Senator Chuchi is a vocal ally to Senators Mothma and Organa, is secretly supporting fellow politicians from both the Old Republic and CIS such as Senator Sing of Raxxus, and is herself a member of the Clone War-era Delegation of Thousands alongside Senator Padme, so it's in Chuchi's character to carry on the fight and integrate her own cause of helping the clones with the larger Rebellion. Most of said clones could have eventually became regular troopers and pilots of the Rebel Alliance, would be cool if the Filoniverse of Bad Batch-Rebels integrate elements of EU (the EU version of the Rebels and New Republic is 100x cooler, the Rebels actually have secret ops, special forces, etc. that wear clone trooper-like armor with helmets, specialized equipment and weapons and have stronger training, I like to believe these guys are the clones rescued by Rex over the years and who defected to the Rebellion, and they also trained regular people to join their ranks). Echo and the rest could have joined them, only to die in battles against the Empire.
Somehow they don't want to give Darth Vader much screen time in the animated series
well, atleast we get to see him in "tales of the empire"
@@Sinaappi_ Yes. but will it be that we will see him again for like 10 seconds with so much content 🤏🏾. Or will we now get a whole story where he is seen a lot and for several episodes
@@exauced7443 My guess is he will be in one of the Barris Offee episodes, maybe couple of minutes or more. It ain't much, but it's something alright👌🏼
He's already in literally everything else. What more do you need?
it's better that way. It keeps his mystique.
Anything to do with the Clones is what I want to see with Star Wars projects. They are hands down my favorite thing about Star Wars. So I’d hope to see more about Echo’s story, see when Wolffe turns against the Empire, everything Rex does between Order 66 and Rebels or beyond, etc.
Echo was probably off planet somewhere, wouldn’t make sense for Omega to tell Hunter to keep an eye on Echo when he isn’t on the same planet as them.
Do remember that, and to quote Yoda “ Death is a natural part of life “ and the clones have advanced ageing so if he is dead then that would be why.
ngl it woulda been so dope if delta squad somehow got their chips out and they did a spin off with rex and the delta sqaud + some other clone survivors fighting the empire
The galaxy is a huge place. There is plenty of space for different paths to be taken.
The universe is huge. All those characters you mentioned may have been battling the Empire in their own corner of the galaxy.
No it doesn’t mean Echo is dead now at all. We know from canon that even after Rebels, Rex goes on to fight for the rebellion on Endor. So it’s feasible that Rex, Echo, Wolf, and the rest of the clones are living out their ‘golden’ years. Somewhere safe fishing, and slinging for Jupers while the Mandalorian storyline takes place, post empire-pre-First Order.
I hope we see a clone series as well and we see what happened with Echo and especially Cody… as well as how Rex, Wolfe, and Gregor grouped up
This is why we need a show on Rex to explain these things
Echoes Of The Clone Wars : new clone spin off series? One can only hope
7:30 OH MANNN yes i want to see a Darth Vader and Captain Rex meeting (like the Darth Vader and Ahsoka scene in Rebels)
It would have been cool if tech had some of his gadgets intergraded into echo and able to download some of tech intelligence. They both were pretty similar characters now.
I like to image Rex standing in the shadows behind Luke watching the body of Anakin burn on pyre or standing on a hill watching.
Some were there at all these major battles we just never saw their perspective. They could absolutely make content with new characters and their pov of battles we've seen.
Or you could say that they were off fighting somewhere else, as the story focused on the Skywalkers and what was up with them. There were battles happening all over the galaxy (it is a big place, after all), not just where the OG trilogy characters were. Omega could have been with Hera's squadron, as we know from the end of Rebels that she fought in the Battle of Endor, and had many missions before then. Considering their friendship when they were young, that's where it would have been natural for Omega to go. As for Echo, after what the Techno Union did to him, it wouldn't shock me if aged him even more prematurely than your standard clone, making it difficult for him to have done what Rex, Gregor and Wolffe did. Perhaps Emerie is looking after him wherever he was able to set up sanctuary for the clones they helped to defect.
I didn't like how this show treated Echo. They kinda just forgot about him until the last few episodes.
If there will be series about clones I pray for seeing there Delta Squad and maybe Scorch made it alive on Weyland, because Clone Commando armor (katarn-class armor) has some kind of shields, so he could be alive. Even if he really get shot, we should remember that in the Republic Commando commandos had implants that accelerate wound healing when approached to bacta dispenser. It would be nice if Boss, Fixer and Sev (especially him) had dragged Scorch to the bright side
keep in mind, in LOTR, while the Fellowship takes the One Ring south to Mordor, a great battle is going on in the north. In Star Trek, there are other Federation starships having adventures of their own. Spider-man may not be able to rush off to help the Avengers in a major battle. We don't always get to see everyone come together. The Bad Batch & Omega may have had a fight of their own and been too busy with a mission to get involved in Hoth or even Endor (though we all know Rex made it to Endor!)
I kind of like that we don't actually get to know why Omega was so important to the Empire. There are subtle hints throughout the show but even until the last minute it ended up being a secret better left buried.
I would love the Hidden Path and Clone Survivor Series. Explaining Ventriss and Quin Lon Vos, Echo, Captain Howzer, and Commander Cody. There is just so much missing.
Not everyone can participate in every historic moment of galactic history. They can have their own adventures and fight their own battles. We wouldnt have any heros if everyone is a hero. I had the same problems with the avengers movies, where everyone was a hero, who's the one you should actually care about or are there any stakes at all.
I feel like this should be fairly easy to explain because the galaxy is so big and the rebels fought the empire on multiple fronts so its easy to explain we didn't see these characters in the OT because they were in a different sector with the rebels while the movies followed the skywalker squad
Good job with the thumbnail bro
i was in the third Marine Division. i did not interact with every one in the third Marine Division, didn't even interact with every Marine in my company much less the entire expeditionary force. I'm pretty sure there was many rebel units in a galactic force and it would be very reasonable to assume all combatants didn't know every other one and that all combatants took part in every operation in the galactic civil war.
A new series about the clones is what I wanted for the bad batch. So many opportunities. I will say I’m okay with them leaving characters out the big events. It’s a big galaxy, but their story needs to be treated with respect which can be hit or miss with Disney
I believe that echo still alive just out of space and echo is in hide from the empire
Its a big galaxy. Thats kind of the nice thing about having a galaxy to work with. Rebel cells were everywhere. We only get to see some in the shows weve been given so far. So they can absolutely make others fighting on different homeworlds. Im thinking that Omega was part of some smaller units fighting in various sectors. Or even helping Echo and Rex wrangle up clones to bring to Pantora to aid Chuchi in creating a retirement plan for them in the senate. We know in rebels that Rex, Gregor and Wolffe all were retired. The emps even recognized this when they were being investigated. So it seems like the retirement bill that Chuchi wanted to pass ended up passing
The batch is different, hunter is going blind, Crosshair has lost his hand, wrecker had his armour breached and claws dragged across his chest which I would say has cause him to lose some of his upper body strength, I would at this point they want to fight but realised they physically can't anymore
The galaxies are big place, Echo, Omega, Cody, they all could have participated in the rebellion that hasn't been covered in Canon yet.
Sorry, Echo is effectively dead. He'll meet his demise in the Clone Rebellion. Same with Emerie. We also still need to know how Wolf joins Rex. One thing that puzzles me is that the Emperor let go of Project Necromancy so easily. (He probably didn't.) And why Tarkin wasn't more interested in Project Necromancy. (He probably was, but probably the Emperor told him that it was none of his concern).
people seem to forget that Star Wars is set in an entire galaxy. The rebel cell we see in Rebels is just that, a cell... Rex is literally living off the grid in the middle of nowhere IN THAT SERIES. There is plenty of space for characters like Omega to be actively participating in the rebellion. A character like Cal needs to go to Tanalorr because he is so powerful, but any non-Jedi can just be chilling in the background, or even actively participate just off screen. I also think there is hope that Echo has gone off with Cody by the time we see Rex in Rebels and they are both still alive somewhere.
PLEASE!!! They need to continue a serious with the clones against the Empire! Let them redeem themselves and the Jedi.
i dont think they gave up man, the galaxy is so big, they will not save and participate in every battle, it is obvious. imagine the size of the empire, the number of crazy and powerfull creatures and war lords. if they were all togheter who would fight the other battles? think mark, think
in the case, the 3 bad batch gave up but not all the charcaters of games, comics and secondary chacarters of the series for example
I’d prefer if characters don’t constantly interact or meet up sometimes it’s best to leave space in between them (literally). The galaxy’s wide and the amount of planets and ppl there are is a lot, it make sense we don’t see omega in rebels although she would’ve been great in it but she could’ve been apart of another rebel cell considering there are numerous cells hidden away.
dude the Bad Batch happened almost two decades before Rebels, no need to worry, his story arc is definitely not done yet.
They could be as resistance characters in rebels that are not in spot light as use to be in bad batch or something else happens as in fiction like time travel or parallel universes.
Great show! Excellent ending! Thought it might end like the Empire Strikes Back, where the kids escape. Yet, they still suffer a huge personal defeat at the same time. The Empire while it is still in its infancy, seems less menacing than it should be, at some point its true dominance and show the Rebellion losing more than winning. I thought we were losing 2 of the 4 remaining Clone Force 99. You're overthinking characters missing from stories. We are watching a rebellion inside of a huge universe. We are getting 2 to 5 years of story at a time throughout multiple generations and places. All of these tiny stories will eventually weave together some could be overlapping. Cody is on the run, AWOL from the Empire, perhaps at this point, he may not have made any contacts that could have led him back to Rex to know there is a mission. I think Omega is leaving in the epilogue just as Ezra and Thrawn disappear and she will somehow end up working with the Ghost. Maybe, we'll get some of that history in Ashoka. Or they could do another animated series with Omega joining Ghost Crew, as part of a build-upto the battle of Endor.
I was sad and happy with the ending. No one lives for ever! So let’s be thankful for having a good ending.
Well I mean considering rebels came out before that final season of clone wars we can assume they didn’t know that echo would be back so ultimately It’s up to future writing…. Just can’t kill him off screen
Probably don’t know about them because they were not created as characters when Rebels came out in development. So they keep things open ended to put together in a future show to merge past and present shows for future stories
I wonder if she’ll bump into cal kestiss. I genuinely can’t wait to see Cal meet with someone familiar (that’s a good guy lol).
Would've loved a new animated series following clones. Was a little bit dissapointed we didn't get too see Rex and Howzer join the final battle. Would love to see more of Howzer and Rex. And really wanna know what happened to Cody.
They need to make new stories outside the timeline of the orgional 6 movies.
Born and bread to kill and die like A TRUE SOLDIER
Scorch should of had a bigger roll
Honestly I was more sad about bad batch then CW 😢 and Rex broke me when he tried tell his brothers he didn't want to fight but im glad i love bad batch best Star wars cartoon series
What does Echo downloaded his memory into Chopper😅
They all went to Tanalor and lived in peace :(
I enjoyed it. I don’t see Echo giving up the fight off-screen. We have followed him since Domino Squad.
man's a survivor. and so freaking stealthy! he can get away with anything
There's still an unnamed clone show that has yet to be released so we may learn then.
i just want to know if Crosshair took the hand of the clone that took his hand had it grafted on, it can't be a difficult task in this universe, and since they are all clones there should be very little chance of rejection, they should have a fairly decent supply of "spare parts".....
Omega probably met everyone in the rebellion off scene you may not recognize her.
Rex can’t see Vader, because during Rebels, the Empire knows that Rex is still alive, they just think he is retired. That is, until he is captured in Rebels and then he becomes wanted by the Empire. The only way Rex could see Vader without it mucking up the canon timeline would be for them to meet up sometime after Rebels and before Return of The Jedi. Him meeting Vader at the end of the bad batch would not have worked.
If Darth Vader appeared, there would be no way that the Bad Batch succeed. Even in the comics, when Vader gets beat up, he still ultimately wins. There’s only two or three characters he loses to, Obi Wan, Luke, and Palatine. He’s not Vader if the loses to a group of Clones.
Can we have a video review on the known Clone Force 99 plans?
We know of a few like plan 99 is an all out do or die, plan 72 is like a team attack with one seizing a vessel or ship, but not much is known of any others
Tbh I really wanted a rex vs cody fight in the same vain as Anakin vs obi wan
Many of the clones probably retired. Maybe even Echo after a while.
No, I don't think so. Echo was not all the time with the Batch. So we don't know
They could be on their own missions or in their own rebel cell. Just hope Omega was with Hera during the battle of Scarif aka surviving.
technically just cause we do not see them, doesn't mean they weren't there. they just aren't in the part of the story we saw. The battle of yavin for instance all those ships 10's of thousands of soldiers just cause we didn't see them doesnt mean they weren't there.
I feel like you guys forget it’s a big galaxy and that not everyone is going to be part of every battle, people can be on other missions