Power sharing is an underrated feature. We now have two Tesla's with two wall connectors run off one 60 amp breaker. It's great to have the wall connectors communicate and manage the power between the two chargers both running off the same breaker.
Thanks for the video. I just recently installed one of the Universal Wall Connectors too. Interesting to hear it is PowerShare enabled. FYI, in addition to having a vehicle that supports PowerShare you need a a Tesla Gateway 3v in your house (DC-to-AC conversion and energy management)
Nice clean install that serves any EV... neat! It will be interesting to see how the power sharing features are rolled out, thanks for mentioning that.
I have the universal one. I use with a Ioniq 2019 and I ALWAYS have to connect it…wait 3 seconds…disconnect and reconnect for it to work. It’s annoying but not too bad. Lots of people have same issue with the j1772 plug. Some peoples fixed with an update but update did not help me. Works fine with the Y though
The only thing that I didn't see mentioned is that you can load share with multiple Tesla chargers (the universal too). One 60A, or smaller, circuit can be shared, and balanced, between multiple chargers.
@@EverydayEV Thats the powershare function. You described the powershare as bi-directional charging. I contacted Tesla to confirm but this seems not the case for this charger.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, seems like Tesla is using the term Powershare to describe both powering your home with the right set up and the wall connector being able to smart split power between multiple chargers. It was confusing for me, so I reached to Tesla and Tesla confirmed with me via email that our Universal Wall Connector is capable of powering our home. I wish I had more information other than that - Brandan
I'm not sure I could justify the cost. I am capped at 32A with my mobile charger, so I could potential get 8 more amps if I use this. An extra 1.9KWh would reduce my time to charge, but not total power usage. I'm in WI, so my time of use charge is only $0.05/kwh, extremely cheap.
Since you're down in Central Ohio now, AEP is running a pilot time of use program aimed at EV owners that considers your peak demand and adjusts the distribution charge accordingly. However, I looked into it and decided it doesn't make sense for me. Unfortunately, it is not favorable for people with mostly electric houses and will be even less so once I'm able to replace my gas furnace with a heat pump.
This is the first time I’m hearing I’m hearing of this issue, so sadly I don’t have any suggestions except contacting Tesla and seeing what they can do! I hope it’s a quick fix, please let me know what they say! - Brandan
How is the amount of amps being supplied while charging adjusted? is it changed through the Tesla app? I am wondering how it is changed especially for non-Tesla vehicles. Thank you so much for this informative video!
Thank you for the comment and for watching, I’m glad the video was helpful! Sadly I can’t share links, but if you google “Tesla Wall Connector Power Management”, the link will be a Tesla.com page that will explain more. I believe ours was setup with a static install, meaning it will be max power (48amps, 11.5kW) if a vehicle can handle that, or if you have a limited space on your electric panel this can be adjusted based on the breaker. With our install, I knew I wanted the max power so I didn’t ask our electrician for options, but the nice thing is that you have options with this charger! I hope this is helpful!
@@EverydayEV I have another question if that's okay. It's similar to my previous one. I know you said this Power Management, which is very useful with those options of static and dynamic. However, with your static setup, say you wanted to charge less than 48 amps one day to put less stress on the battery. Let's say we do 32 amps instead. Can you change this amperage through the Tesla app or inside of the vehicle through the screen? Also, can it be done through the app or inside the car for a non-Tesla vehicle, too? I hope this makes sense. I am especially wondering if you can change it through the app only or also in the vehicle for non-Teslas.
Oh sorry I totally forgot to answer that 😅 I know if you have a Tesla vehicle in your account, you can limit the amps using the Tesla app, but I don’t believe you can if you just have the charger set up in your account. Ive charged our Nissan LEAF using our Wall Connector and I have not seen an option to limit amps, there’s no option either in settings. I will note that Tesla does send OTA software updates to Wall Connectors, so hopefully they’ll enable this in the future!
I have the regular Tesla Wall Charger and FINALLY scheduled to have it installed. Any idea what the charge speed differences are with different amp settings? I've been using a standard 120v plug. I use 4% and it takes it about 4 hours to recharge. Is the 14-30 dryer plug almost as fast as the wall charger? Should you only run the charger at 80% of its max amp limit? Thank you.
Thanks for the comment! The 14-30 is going to be a bit faster than using a 120v outlet, but not quite as fast as if you had it installed to say a dedicated 40 amp or 50amp breaker. From my experience - 32 amps typically equates to 7kW, 40amps between 8-10kW, and 48amps maxes out at 11.5kW. So if you did below 32 amps, it’d probably be about 4-6kW. It might vary, but that’s just all based on personal experience
Nice review. For restricting access, can you have non-Telsa vehicles on the list of authorized users? From the manual I saw, looks like you can only use access control feature for Tesla vehicles.
Thanks for the comment! It took me one or two tries to get it to connect to our Wi-Fi. Do you happen to still have the quick start guide that came with it? There’s a QR code you need to scan that will walk you through setting it up.
It depends on the vehicle and the state of charge you are starting with - but as an example, to go from 20%-100% with our Model 3, it takes about 6-8 hours with the Universal Wall Connector.
Yes, from my understanding, that’s what the electricians that we hired used since they had to run the wiring through some tight spaces in our basement to reach our panel. It’s set to a dedicated 60amp breaker on a 200amp panel
@@EverydayEV got it. I find that super interesting because 6/3 is only rated for 55A. It seems that many electricians are comfortable with that on a 60A breaker.
@@NextGenEvsaccording to code for continuous load 6AWG Romex would only support up to 44A(55 x 80%). Is it actually an issue? Who knows but electricians probably just want to cheap out. If you want to max out the 48A I would go for 4AWG Romex or 6AWG THHN. If sticking with 6AWG Romex I would switch to 50A breaker to be safe.
You need to run 4/3 romex for a 60 A breaker for full 48 amp charging. The cable has to be rated for the breaker not the load so you have to use cable that is rated for 60 A hence the step up to 4/3 if you use romex.
You would not use this charger for a cyber, S, or X. There is an 80amp charger that looks similar. These vehicles have dual onboard chargers that this does not support. Listening to a review on a Tesla product from a non tesla owner is ridiculous. The amperage on a non-tesla is more about the car's charging ability. Some vehicles can't control temps while charging.
Hey, thanks for the comment! Older Model S and Model X customers had the option to pay extra for an 80amp onboard charger, this option has since been discontinued. I worked for Tesla during this time. The new Model S, Model X, and Cybertruck can use this home charging station and still max out at 11.5kW. We have also owned a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Long Range and just bought a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance, and have extensive experience with Tesla vehicles.
Power sharing is an underrated feature. We now have two Tesla's with two wall connectors run off one 60 amp breaker. It's great to have the wall connectors communicate and manage the power between the two chargers both running off the same breaker.
Thanks for the video. I just recently installed one of the Universal Wall Connectors too. Interesting to hear it is PowerShare enabled. FYI, in addition to having a vehicle that supports PowerShare you need a a Tesla Gateway 3v in your house (DC-to-AC conversion and energy management)
I was curious about that as well, just had one installed as well.
Nice clean install that serves any EV... neat! It will be interesting to see how the power sharing features are rolled out, thanks for mentioning that.
Thanks Steve! We were pretty happy with the clean installation and how it blends into the side of our house.
I have the universal one. I use with a Ioniq 2019 and I ALWAYS have to connect it…wait 3 seconds…disconnect and reconnect for it to work. It’s annoying but not too bad. Lots of people have same issue with the j1772 plug. Some peoples fixed with an update but update did not help me. Works fine with the Y though
The only thing that I didn't see mentioned is that you can load share with multiple Tesla chargers (the universal too). One 60A, or smaller, circuit can be shared, and balanced, between multiple chargers.
Yes, I definitely forgot to mention this in my video, thank you for the comment!
@@EverydayEV Thats the powershare function. You described the powershare as bi-directional charging. I contacted Tesla to confirm but this seems not the case for this charger.
Thanks for the comment! Yes, seems like Tesla is using the term Powershare to describe both powering your home with the right set up and the wall connector being able to smart split power between multiple chargers. It was confusing for me, so I reached to Tesla and Tesla confirmed with me via email that our Universal Wall Connector is capable of powering our home. I wish I had more information other than that - Brandan
Great Video! It's definately lovely design.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I agree, it’s a beautiful home charger.
Very nice video, I look forward to them, Thanks again!
Glad you like them! 😁⚡️
I'm not sure I could justify the cost. I am capped at 32A with my mobile charger, so I could potential get 8 more amps if I use this. An extra 1.9KWh would reduce my time to charge, but not total power usage. I'm in WI, so my time of use charge is only $0.05/kwh, extremely cheap.
The wall connector maxes out at 48A so you can get 16 more amps but 32A works for most people.
My electric company (Rocky Mountain Power) reimbursed me for most of the cost of the Tesla Wall Connector. Worth checking out.
It should be able to do 48A.
Since you're down in Central Ohio now, AEP is running a pilot time of use program aimed at EV owners that considers your peak demand and adjusts the distribution charge accordingly. However, I looked into it and decided it doesn't make sense for me. Unfortunately, it is not favorable for people with mostly electric houses and will be even less so once I'm able to replace my gas furnace with a heat pump.
Do you 'need' to plug the charger back in each time? Can it be left on top of the unit? I have a hanging system in my garage
Good question! Nope, you don’t have to do that. It’s just a holster. 😁
I cannot plug my magic dock in the universal wall connector, it is a huge problem as the Tesla connector cannot be detached. Any suggestions?
This is the first time I’m hearing I’m hearing of this issue, so sadly I don’t have any suggestions except contacting Tesla and seeing what they can do! I hope it’s a quick fix, please let me know what they say! - Brandan
How is the amount of amps being supplied while charging adjusted? is it changed through the Tesla app? I am wondering how it is changed especially for non-Tesla vehicles. Thank you so much for this informative video!
Thank you for the comment and for watching, I’m glad the video was helpful! Sadly I can’t share links, but if you google “Tesla Wall Connector Power Management”, the link will be a Tesla.com page that will explain more. I believe ours was setup with a static install, meaning it will be max power (48amps, 11.5kW) if a vehicle can handle that, or if you have a limited space on your electric panel this can be adjusted based on the breaker. With our install, I knew I wanted the max power so I didn’t ask our electrician for options, but the nice thing is that you have options with this charger!
I hope this is helpful!
@@EverydayEV gotcha. thanks! that link helped out a lot!
@@EverydayEV I have another question if that's okay. It's similar to my previous one. I know you said this Power Management, which is very useful with those options of static and dynamic. However, with your static setup, say you wanted to charge less than 48 amps one day to put less stress on the battery. Let's say we do 32 amps instead. Can you change this amperage through the Tesla app or inside of the vehicle through the screen? Also, can it be done through the app or inside the car for a non-Tesla vehicle, too? I hope this makes sense. I am especially wondering if you can change it through the app only or also in the vehicle for non-Teslas.
Oh sorry I totally forgot to answer that 😅
I know if you have a Tesla vehicle in your account, you can limit the amps using the Tesla app, but I don’t believe you can if you just have the charger set up in your account.
Ive charged our Nissan LEAF using our Wall Connector and I have not seen an option to limit amps, there’s no option either in settings. I will note that Tesla does send OTA software updates to Wall Connectors, so hopefully they’ll enable this in the future!
@@EverydayEV No worries! Thanks, that makes sense! Thanks again for this video and thank you for your thorough and informative replies.
Clicked on this to learn about the charger, but now I need to know about your downspouts - connecting 2 into 1. How? Is that a special adapter?
Honestly, I wish I had more information for you on that 😆 it was a flipped home so corners were definitely cut…
I have the regular Tesla Wall Charger and FINALLY scheduled to have it installed. Any idea what the charge speed differences are with different amp settings? I've been using a standard 120v plug. I use 4% and it takes it about 4 hours to recharge. Is the 14-30 dryer plug almost as fast as the wall charger? Should you only run the charger at 80% of its max amp limit? Thank you.
Thanks for the comment!
The 14-30 is going to be a bit faster than using a 120v outlet, but not quite as fast as if you had it installed to say a dedicated 40 amp or 50amp breaker. From my experience - 32 amps typically equates to 7kW, 40amps between 8-10kW, and 48amps maxes out at 11.5kW. So if you did below 32 amps, it’d probably be about 4-6kW. It might vary, but that’s just all based on personal experience
Nice review. For restricting access, can you have non-Telsa vehicles on the list of authorized users? From the manual I saw, looks like you can only use access control feature for Tesla vehicles.
Yes, you can use the app to authorize specific cars. You can also use the app to only allow charging during a specific daily time window.
I have the wall connector also we installed in June of last year and are in central ohio
How do you connect the wall connector through the Tesla app
Thanks for the comment! It took me one or two tries to get it to connect to our Wi-Fi. Do you happen to still have the quick start guide that came with it? There’s a QR code you need to scan that will walk you through setting it up.
Which vehicles aren't working with it?
Thank you for the comment! Looks like some people were having issues with older EVs such as LEAFs. I haven’t seen many reported issues though.
How long does it take for a 100% charge on average?
It depends on the vehicle and the state of charge you are starting with - but as an example, to go from 20%-100% with our Model 3, it takes about 6-8 hours with the Universal Wall Connector.
Did you run 6/3 Romex?
Yes, from my understanding, that’s what the electricians that we hired used since they had to run the wiring through some tight spaces in our basement to reach our panel. It’s set to a dedicated 60amp breaker on a 200amp panel
@@EverydayEV got it. I find that super interesting because 6/3 is only rated for 55A. It seems that many electricians are comfortable with that on a 60A breaker.
@@NextGenEvsaccording to code for continuous load 6AWG Romex would only support up to 44A(55 x 80%). Is it actually an issue? Who knows but electricians probably just want to cheap out. If you want to max out the 48A I would go for 4AWG Romex or 6AWG THHN. If sticking with 6AWG Romex I would switch to 50A breaker to be safe.
@@Reck1025 yeah I run 6AWH THHN
You need to run 4/3 romex for a 60 A breaker for full 48 amp charging. The cable has to be rated for the breaker not the load so you have to use cable that is rated for 60 A hence the step up to 4/3 if you use romex.
how much price,,,,,?
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You would not use this charger for a cyber, S, or X. There is an 80amp charger that looks similar. These vehicles have dual onboard chargers that this does not support.
Listening to a review on a Tesla product from a non tesla owner is ridiculous.
The amperage on a non-tesla is more about the car's charging ability. Some vehicles can't control temps while charging.
Hey, thanks for the comment! Older Model S and Model X customers had the option to pay extra for an 80amp onboard charger, this option has since been discontinued. I worked for Tesla during this time. The new Model S, Model X, and Cybertruck can use this home charging station and still max out at 11.5kW.
We have also owned a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Long Range and just bought a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Performance, and have extensive experience with Tesla vehicles.
You can use this charger for ANY Tesla car.