Makita 40v Impact Wrench VS Makita 18v Impact Wrench | Are they the same?
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- Finally got my hands on a Makita 40v Impact Wrench! Let's compare it to the 18v equivalent, the Makita LXT DTW300. Might as well chuck in the 40v Makita Impact Driver and a Milwaukee for good measure.
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The fact that you reached out to SBC is awesome! 😎 Hope you guys share whenever you two get a beer. 🍻
I got into the 40v platform as a new user. I'm slowly adding more to it.
What else are you adding
@@AlanTrades Impact wrench, SDS drill, blower, reciprocating saw etc.
Was it worth paying more for a less variety of tools?
@@malikchaddoud8710 Well I didn't have any tools and because it was ip54 I took it. The deals were ok from the onset. I have added to it and I'll keep adding what I need.
@Tools & Stuff, Thanks for the thorough review between the 18V and 40V Makita impact wrenches. I agree with you that there's so many people with 18V LXT tools and such a expansive line that the LXT line isn't going away any time soon. This does give Makita users a upgrade path for those tools that can make sense to go 40V like the saws, outdoor power equipment, rotary hammer drills and vacuums.
Hope you and your family stay safe and well.
I look at it this way. They are still making the brushed 18v LXT motor models for cheaper options, so they would have to start phasing those out long before they start phasing out the 18v brushless LXT models (in theory) It’s a long long ways away before we ever need to worry about it. IMO
Love my XWT14. Will fit in tight spots under the hood. Suspension work is a breeze. Might get a 21700 kit for it sometime
I like how you showed that the 40V is better than the 18V, and threw in the 12V Milwaukee for good measure.
@Пабло Эскобар pricewise yes
Love the vids man and you're the reason i spent £900 last week on the 40v chop saw but your T shirt has given me nightmares! Maybe as I'm ex army and the Royal Guards at that! FFS though man, crack the iron out! lol
Great video, also could you please tell Handy Hardware to open on weekends. Thanks mate
I've been a hikoki fan boy for quite sometime now, last 4 years or so. but due to their lack of product releases and range in general, I've made the decision to transition over to the new makita xgt range due it part mostly to your videos mate.
killer effort on your reviews and such, can't wait to see more of you.
Yeah I know where you're coming from. I like Hikoki but the range is lacking. If it wasn't for the nailers and 1/2" router, I probably wouldn't bother either.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I'm a metal worker/engineer, and though there angle grinders are absolutely incredible as are there impact wrenches and such, they lack the range of even makitas xgt platform now. I know they have the range overseas, but it's a disappointment to see it not avaible to us. Love ya vids mate
Keen to see many more
Gidday tools,
Have you got any videos of best 40v impact wrench vs best 18v impact wrench? I would assume driving Excalibur bolts through bottom plates and concrete??
Rear handle 40v skillsaw just released in the Phillipines.
Good review.
Being already invested in Makita 18 volt LXT tools, the 40 volt series would have to offer something I don't currently have, or cannot get in an 18 volt version.
I'm on the lxt and xgt platform. My impact wrench and grinder for work are lxt. I have the2nd gen xgt recip and an lxt recip on my work truck, lxt for lighter cutting and xgt for heavy cutting. I also own the xgt leaf blower.
Thank you for the review ! One of the best ones ever! Cheers!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment
What is the U.S. Model number for this? It doesn’t seem like they have they have the mid torque here yet.
They're close enough to convince me that the 40-volt uses a step down. That's not a bad thing, that allows the battery to be more flexible. It gives overhead for things like 10 inch saws and even jack hammers in x2, while not limiting itself to only big tools like Milwaukee Mx has. And that since it's kind of brilliant, but in another sense they lock themselves into bigger and bigger batteries since running 10 cells in a series to attain your voltage goal means will never carry more amp hours than a single cell
I've got both and the 40v definitely hits faster and harder..
I like to use nickel Anti seize on stainless bolts and nuts. Keeps them from galling the threads and welding themselves together. Good video tho ! Thanks for putting it out. They have an adaptor to charge the LXT18V batteries in the 36/40v Max chargers I noticed . I am positive the 18v LXT will be around for another decade at least since they have 275! - 18v Lxt Battery tools over the last 15 yrs. They only have 50 tools so far for the 36/40v -72/80v max system
Where can I get some of those friction ring sockets?
Impact wrench aren’t meant to drive fasteners quickly. They have a gear reduction to increase torque even more so when used in a 12v platform.
Impact drivers have a drive reduction too tho
@@brettwalkom948 well yeah every drill operates with a certain reduction geared at their task. My point is impact wrenches aren't made to set fasteners all day as fast as possible. They are made for higher torque application and they will last much longer then most impact drivers at high torque. The impact wrench would be slower no matter what even if driving 1" fasteners a good 12v impact driver would probably beat a high torque impact wrench but that doesn't mean the 12v is better.
@@zack6892 doubt it lots of small hits isn't always as good as fewer big hits
Thanks mate. Another good one. C'mon Scott Brown have a beer....😁
Very nice test!
I was speaking with Makita and they should be releasing some more 40v line Canada/USA late spring early summer. More importantly the 40v mitre saw
Meh, what's so cool about the miter saw? Nothing the x2 setup can't do well
Watch my video on it and you may find out.
Hey finally a video where milwaukee gets second place :)
Love your vids
Didn't expect the 12v Milwaukee to manage that one
@@harrybobs4014 I only do light work and I honestly considered selling my 18 volt makita for 12 volt milwaukee but the vast amount of tools on the 18volt makita line keeps me here
No other 12V brand would have done this job. Crazy... just the question how long they last for.
The Milwaukee didn't get second place. It's a completely different class of tool, haha. Impressive a 12v could do that.
When it comes to quality... Makita is always the winner
Do you have then Milwaukee black pack out?
Just got the dtw300 18v and noticed there is the 40v system after buying it. I must say, I don't regret buying the 18V version since it is cheaper and has almost the same power.
Same. I'll be getting the 21700 18v DIY box to increase power
@@Dansk55 You can't really increase power, because that is regulated by the pcb in tool. Just buy the right impact for your job.
The 300s are a nightmare for reliability stick to the 285z trust me
Hey makita, make some 80 volt tools like snowblower etc with 2 40 volt batteries like you did with the 36 volt lineup please. Love my 36 volt stuff that I can just use all my 18 volt batteries. I might go to the 40 volt line soon.
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Let’s see some hardwood action.
After DBS180 Belt Sander, another specific tool like new DTM52 Multi Tool 😘
Sir, might you tell me when I can expect the 40 volt over here in the colonies? ... 🤔😀😃😄😀😂🤣 Relax people and give this chap a break! FYI, just got my XPH12 back from the Makita repair center in New Jersey, USA, and they included a XGT 40:volt brochure in the box! This might be a sign that it will be anytime now, kiddies! 😁 Fixed under warranty and drill runs like new! New Jersey facility is great! Your videos are great! Your ‘split views’ of the tools going head to head are banging! Thanks for your efforts! Cheers Mate! 👍👍👍👍👍👍😁✌🏻👏🏻🥇
Cool test, you pros🔥
Nice videos. Just found your channel and it’s good to have a reviewer from this hemisphere (I’m in OZ). I have a general question. My Makita gear is getting on a bit and I’m wanting to upgrade with a combo kit. Main needs are good battery life and power ration. Tools would be circ saw, grinder and impact and hammer drills. Which kit would you recommend? FYI I run a handyman business so they will get a bit of work but nothing like a tradie. Looking for best bang for buck
Are you interested in The 40v stuff or the 18v?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL would love the 40v kit but they very pricey and just keen to see whether you reckon they worth the extra money? I can get a 6 piece BL18v combo for the price of two 40v drills combo. The tools that concern me with the 18v range is the grinder and the circ saw.
What would you say,
I have 3 replace Akkus, dga504 ddf480 and dtw1001 and no charger
Sell them and get the 40V system?
Yeah, jump to 40v
That purple Makita driver showed you why you need a impact wrench.
At some point increasing the battery voltage doesn't really help the convenience of the tool.
Say, lets go to 120v that will make the tool really hot. What's that? We've already done that?
Your T-shirt really needs ironing! :D
Kobalt XTR line would be a good challenege seeing they smoked big red and the Bumblebee
I have kobalt and milwaukee and milwaukee kills kobalt except on high impact sockets kobalt all day.
I've gone makita cause that's what I grew up around and the ergonomics most of the stuff I use doesn't need all the beans like the xgt 40 volt system lxt 18 volt handles everything I need so far.. Though the aspect of being overkill for removing some lug nuts off my vehicle or some stubborn bolts on my 92 Chevrolet s10 that are either rusted or corroded beyond salvation does tickle me more then it should
Why does the 18 volt have a deep socket and the 40 volt have a shallow? Weight on the ball end will effect performance as well hints why if you buy a harmonic balencer socket it'll be weighted
Can you try the 18v with a battery adapter and try a red or yellow battery 21700 to see if it makes a difference.
The new hikoki 1/2 cordless router would be an interesting review especially battery life for installing kitchen worktops .👍🏼
Ive used the hikoki trimmer and i actually like it over the makita. Can't speak for the router though.
1/4 and 1/2 coming soon...
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL look forward to it ...
battery life will be key for this tool . No doubt makita & Dewalt will roll there’s out soon after .
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL there’s also a couple of videos
Showing the new makita 40v Brad nailer .
Model LN001G . Looks decent. Only has a 40mm maximum capacity on the nails though.
In New Zealand?
The TW001 is only a bit more expensive over here and by the specs crazy strong.
Tell us!!! How much have you spent so far on 40v tools and how many new 18v have you had to buy for comparison???
Too much! And only 1.
You should do flexvolt grinder dcg418 (at least thats the model number in the US) vs the makita 40v 5" grinder. flexvolt grinder has been the king for that size since the earlier dcg414 model was released in 2016
Can you wait a few days...
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yea def
Like the xgt line but sucks we will never see a slim batter like the 2.0 for the lxt line.
I hear ya Piston! Hitachi came out with a slim pack 3.0, I don’t know why Makita won’t? Doesn’t require the larger 21700 cells either. It’s frustrating!
@@georgedavall9449 wish makita stuck with lxt line and went with the hitachi route. Most tools don't need 40v.
....Nice review..!! Thanks..!!
The only complaint for me is the LIGHT ...is so dim..is not like milwaukee...all milwaukee impact wrench has bright light in front...It has good lighting ../. Thanks again for the video..✌
I have never found a need for all that lighting.
@@BamaShinesDistillery... 👍
Makita IS good stuff! Thanks for vid, it was intressting and i know now all i need. Ill be sticking with 18 volts for a long time =)
Just wondering if you have had feedback on the 18v DHP481 brushless drill failing. I have had 2 die, another one makes horrible noises and a I personally know another guy who has had the same problems. Just wondering if this is a widespread issue.
Why would you compare the Milwaukee stubby 12v compact impact to Makita 18v and 40v mid torque? Shit I'm surprised the stubby even did it, I want to see a Makita 12v impact do that or any other 12v impact.
You answered your own question.
Great vid!
I was surprised by the Milwaukee being slower. I’ve borrowed my mates’ and it nearly tore my wrist off.
👍🏼 from Oz
Thanks 👍
I think u can order from Makita Australia.
I have the dtw300z the problem I have is they only last about 6months I’ve had 3 of them don’t know if I should upgrade
What are you doing with them?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I'm a scaffolder. I am fairly careful with them the dtw285 I had before lasted 3 years but I found out they did a more powerful model so upgraded but now the 285 model is £30 more expensive than the 300
Maybe try a mid torque?
Fuck ya bud, liked and subscribed first minute
Respect ✊
Cheers
'No, I'm not going to touch it' 😅
Yeeeeeah I'll stick with my 18v setup. Thanks mate!
Same for right now..Into the line but i can imagine the xgt 2nd gen impact wrenches though.the most recent 1/2 higher torque also looks like a beast too
@@danabenjamin3300 ohhhh yeah!
You can't get an 18v 270mm circular saw though 😉
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL no doubt..👍
Tools has got me feeling guity,I might bite the bullet and grab one for Xmas lol
Good stuff
Ryobi 18v Impact driver. I know I know, it's just a last years AEG/Milwaukee. But damnit us Ryobi fans have Napoleon complexes! :P.
My 18v ryobi impact drivers are 15 years old and still going strong, used all the time in all weathers and for big bolts and scaff clamps too
In the US, the DTW300Z (XWT14Z) is 3/8" drive while the DTW004Z (GWT04Z) is 1/2" drive. Im on the 40v platform, but I only have 3/8 sockets. :(
What is battery life like on the 40v as a 5amp/h 18v lasts me a full day nearly what are the 40v 2.5amp/h like in comparison???
So is the 18v one not in the u.s. yet?
Not sure. If it is then you can't get either of them in the states yet. Won't be too far away...
Why don't compare with the DTW1002 ?
Use the DTW 300 was not à great idea (like 3 time less power)
Watch the video.
Just wondering. If you put a 2.5 ah battery on the 18v . Guess you whould se a different result.
I was all pumped for the XWT18, but it got delayed and so I asked my mommy to buy me the XWT15 for my birthday. Yes, I rarely use impact sockets (and, tbh, I want to say that a proper air powered compact impact a mechanic would use is about twice as powerful), but put a bit adaptor on there and....heh he hehehe muahahahaha.
so 40v > 18v. Are they heavier? More expensive? Battery last as long?
The battery design is likely an improvement. Cells might not be much different but better cooler and a more durable case. Not enough for most 18volt owners to switch IMO. I want light weight tools and compact batteries for 95% of my tasks.
In this case, the 40v is heavier and more expensive and that’s it. 😂
The way i see it, 40v has better runtime over 18v. It's just hard justifying sticking with 18v other than the lower cost....I think Makita needs to rethink 18v possibly making them more subcompact. This way you can set 18v apart from 40v other than cost of course.
I could imagine a compact 18 volt system being 35% smaller than a 40v system. I think Milwaukee already did that with 12 volt and 18, so I don't know how Makita would pull it off
@@stauker.1960 not hard at all because they already have a subcompact line. They can go back to the drawing board and try to make the most powerful compact/ sub compact line on the market
Very narrow margins between the two doesn't really convince me to invest in the XGT at a much greater cost. Batteries & charging docks are ridiculously over priced. Make it more affordable with more incentives then people might think about it, not just for the tradie but also home handy man like myself.
The Milwaukee is an M12?
Should have been the M18
I currently own the 18v version and I’m pretty impressed by it compared to ridged lol
I am thinking of buying one for car use , is that worth it
Yes I actually do!
I personally think you will be satisfied and right now HD has the 5.0 and impact wrench for $180.
@@dan260140 thanks
Not really impressed with that 40volt i say its about 1-2 seconds
Faster and probably cost alot more then the 18volt
Does the 18 volt Makita heat more than the 40 volt that's what I'm assuming just don't know for fact
In theory if that was the only difference, then yes. But if it runs cooler, you can pull some extra performance out of the 40v and end up in the same temperature. And since this is what we see performance wise, I assume they do just that.
In fact your comment is what made me think about this. In theory they should have the same performance. But you do need twice the amps on a 18v system to get the same power so definitely sounds like the limit is thermal.
I don't own either of these. This is just my guess.
Seriously Milwaukee 12v? How does it make sense
What doesn't make sense is you having a problem with it.
what does XGT stand for?
XGT = neXt Generation Technology
LXT = Lithium eXtreme Technology
CXT = Compact eXtreme Technology
@@RegisG. Thanks.
Why is the body of the 40v so much bigger and fatter? Looks like this is with all the 40v, not just the battery but the hole machine?
For once I'm jealous of you Brits and Aussies and New Zealanders , getting the Makita new 36/40vmax stuff first! Makita USA Just announced the USA 40v/80v max at last! ( its on their CZcams channel.) Today I am learning what a coach screw is ! We call those Lag Bolts in the USA. Just so folks know these would be a poor choice for anything that doesn't use a socket or a solid 1 pc driving bit that can attach to the square drive. (The more adaptors you put onto an impact the more power you lose) This tool is really made for sockets, like for lag bolts (Coach screws) ,or bolts and nuts. I would use a hex female impact for driving things that need screwdriver type bits, (like the batten screws) Stay away from stacking adaptors and you will have more power to drive fastners better. Nice Video !
I see you have added NZers now.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Ha HA I thought You were British at first then I though nope, that is Australian sounding ! Sorry I didnt know.
That's ok, you Canadians get it wrong all the time.
For once? They have affordable healthcare and better education.
I wish the 18V batteries came in a higher Ah
Use a battery adapter to use any other brand one.
You can get them up to 6ah
Makita of Japan just announced the 40v
version of the mid-torque. Not sure what took them so long. I would suspect we should notice a difference at that size.
I should have pasted their ad-copy into Google translate before posting that comment. It appears the torque ratings are the same, it just gets it done slightly faster. Boooo.
The LS003G is on the way too... and it's a 12"
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I totally get why that would be great for a first fix crew. Saw (no pun intended) enough tripped breakers with the doors to the house locked during my back breaking deck framing youth. But for forty year old me, cut that 12” in half and I might be interested. 😂
@@robertrada6040 you can get the 8". When it comes to mitre saws I want the biggest I can get so that I know it can cut anything I need cut. Hopefully it is significantly lighter than the 36v 10".
Wow, it's super heavy! 30kg (66 lbs)
Whats the difference between a pin detent and the C-ring?
If it's what I think - the detent pin will slip into a hole in an impact socket - and needs to be pressed in to release the socket
The hog ring uses only friction to hold the socket - so it's faster but less secure
@@josephashcraft1581 you my friend are correct lol
Makita better be careful, they had just been introducing the 12 V platform that I didn’t think was very useful as a 18V investor. This is one of the reasons why I never buy DeWalt tools , in the early days of dewalt it seems like they would always switch the battery voltage around and you couldn’t keep the right tools and right batteries going at the same time.
2.5ah vs 5.0ah. Dosnt 40v have a 4ah, wouldn't this make a difference
We’ve been there. 2.5ah XGT actually kicks a bit harder than the 4ah XGT, sometimes.
Yes but the 2.5ah is 40v. The 5.0ah is 18v (20v). Each battery has 100 watt hours and each has 10 - 2500mv cells. The only difference between the batteries is the way they are wired.
Which would make a difference in power, more ohms would make better performance. Might have the same batterys, but would be working harder to suck the same power out of smaller wires
@@robertrada4783
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2.5 40V and 5.0 18V is the best comparison because both packs use the exact same 10 Samsung 25R 18650 cells. Just in a different configuration.
4 Ah has 21700 cells. Plus it's a larger pack and kind of defeats the purpose of a "compact" class impact wrench.
Why did you use a Milwaukee 12 volt instead of the 18 volt up against the 40-volt what up!
That's what the m12 batteries look like in the us.
Said 12 on it...
Well every time I make a video on Milwaukee tools I get comments from Americans saying that the batteries are fake and that the batteries don't look like that.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL i think people just mistake the m12 battery for the m18
@@niq872 - You're probably right.
Hey, I'm in the US and I was wondering if you had any insider...Just kidding. I am eagerly awaiting the new 40V stuff. I am wondering what's taking so long here.
Ha ha Billy, See my comment above! Just got a tool back from repair in Jersey, and they stuck a large XGT40 brochure in with it!
For the u.s it’s just down to the amount of stock that has to be supplied & the demand , hence the delay . I’ve recently purchased the new xgt mitre saw . Highly recommended 👍🏼
I’m way guessing XGT is their next website drop. Sometime around first week of April-.
You US guys are so spoilt
Sooooo why were you comparing the 12v to the 40v? Should have bee comparing it to the 18v.
It was funny when at that moment 13:15 I saw the makita battery like milwaukee 3.0 output form because of the left video is really thin but I know it isn't possible ))
I have a lot of 18v tools with double batteries and now they bring this to the market, i'm very angry right now! 😠
That's understandable..
the setting is how many dugga dugga's
So basically they're the same?... But one is way more expensive
Soo for newcomers 40V for 18V folks sticks with 18V for another 5years.
truly the noisiest video i've ever watched, but big ups
M12 is weaker bruh
Lol yeah never use stainless on stainless.
The XGT spank that Milwaukee stubby, i like it.
scotty gone hollywood on you pal
Not a big fan of this Makita two platform system. BTW, you use an M12 against a 40v system? Regardless...that M12 did it. For the price/power/quality...looks like Milwaukee is the best system.
Makita wrenches are higher quality than Milwaukee. And the XWT15 18V wrench is more powerful than the M18 Fuel compact class equivalent anyways.
If you don't like that he's comparing the tools he only happens to have in his possession then send him some of yours. I wouldn't expect a smalltime CZcamsr to have $10k-$15k in power tools just so you could see every single possible comparison.
@@jaywelker5566 I sold my stubbies after I got these makita impacts
I sold my milwaukee stubbies after I got these makita impacts
18650 vs 2100
Put 2100 in 18volt and will be almost identical
Both batteries are 18650. And the 18650 makita batteries are better performing than the 21700s which are only in the 4.0ah
I bought into Makita LXT waaaaaaay after Metabo 20700/21700 and Bosch 20700/21700. In every case: Makita with even a 1 row 18650 slim pack eats Metabo and Bosch’s 21700 lunch. I don’t know how the 4ah batteries are wired, but I know that the 36v 2.5ah is the 5ah 18v but wired in series. Technically, in this case, the 36v is already at a disadvantage. I’m impressed that the XGT kicks a little harder. The motor, hammer and gear train are the limiting factor (hence why the impact driver and drills are no better than the 18v) and I just wasn’t expecting that.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Здравствуйте!Так разницы практически нет,зачем тогда нужна линейка 40в мах?
@Svn quoting numbers isn't the real world.
9:24 18V did if first but he continued until 40V finished also at 11:26 if you look close 18V push i deeper into the wood so in terms of speed and power its same maybe battery has more to give but as just a tool it didn't improove
Also why didn't have he used M18 but M12 Milwaukee is it too much for Makita to handle
The XGT impact driver has bigger gears, a bigger bit collet, a bigger fan and so on for a bigger price of $35 over the XDT16. The compact impact wrenches are virtually the same, but the xgt comes at a premium of $90 over the LXT version. :0 You can buy the drill+the impact driver with a charger and two batteries for $449. The impact wrench with the same two batteries and charger = ...drum roll please...$469. Economy of scale is massive.
not the same
you are using 12V Milwaukee to compare with 18V Makita, this is not a fair game, try with M18, you'll be surprised
Get on with it mate
looks like the same amount of batteries inside.. Soooooo .... lets add a wire? (Makita) yes and charge 5x the $$$$
Is it 5x as much?
An impact wrench is not designed to drive screws and especially into wood. Its main feature is to loosen screws. The DTW300 has 330 NM when tightening and over 600 NM to loosen.
Click bait!
In what way?
@@MR-vj8dn We never got to se the fight thats show on the tumbnail.
@@martincarlberg9671 Yeah, okay. I didn't see the thumbnail as a specific test, more like "vs" metaphorically. ... but I know of videos showing tools hooked up to each other fighting until they catch fire. Do you really find those more interesting than these ones?