Vintage Framus 12 String Guitar Thanks Germany

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024

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  • @joek81981
    @joek81981 Před 3 lety +16

    Like that movie, Almost Framus.

    • @georgerigberg4335
      @georgerigberg4335 Před 3 lety +2

      Nice avatar!

    • @sonofbarnsey
      @sonofbarnsey Před 3 lety

      @Asa Harley Because I'm sure that everybody watching this video would just fucking *love* go hack someone else's social media account. Thanks a million for the comment gooch and a good laugh, whoever you are

  • @DJBuglip
    @DJBuglip Před 3 lety +3

    I've got a similar one. About 64, the darker finish, this one has a glued in neck. It was my dad's, he was a folk player. Beautiful instrument, it plays like butter. He was good friends with Don Teter, its had a lot of work over the years, many decades ago. Great vid, Dave, thanks for doing this one.

  • @thestuffer69
    @thestuffer69 Před 3 lety +2

    Everytime you wear the loop shirt i shed a tear. I miss that station so much

  • @bowfrog
    @bowfrog Před 3 lety

    Thank You for sharing your videos on repair They are very enjoyable. And helpful.
    Blue Max Stringed Instrument Repair

  • @Ukedc259
    @Ukedc259 Před 3 lety +2

    More genius thinking out loud from the legend. Priceless.

  • @stubonics
    @stubonics Před 3 lety +25

    I read "Vintage" in the title as "Vantage" and thought for a second that the owner of those Vantage basses was now just screwing with Dave by continually dropping off Vantage guitars and basses off at his house.

  • @jamesduck1069
    @jamesduck1069 Před 3 lety +2

    Hey Dave! Great stuff tonight! You remind me of my good friend, Marc McElwee, who designed all the Travis Bean aluminum neck guitars in the 70s...He has taught me a sxxxt load of guitar repair over the years and you and he have a lot in common in your approach and banter!

  • @fernandogarajalde4066
    @fernandogarajalde4066 Před 3 lety +7

    I see I’m not the only craftsman to repurpose a Shure SM58 microphone bag for small tools, 😎

  • @joshuawerner3074
    @joshuawerner3074 Před 3 lety +2

    I love watching your videos Guitar tech and Guitar luither for life!

  • @BurninSven1
    @BurninSven1 Před 10 měsíci

    I bought myself a 12 string Framus too and it shows it is a really good guitar that sounds really good. The laminated bolton neck is very good and still straight. The neckpocket is very rough and I did not think it would work at all and that the guitar would sound like crap but hell no it did not. Instead of doing any big repairs I just made a wedge out of three playing cards that I cut in three different lenght and glued them together with superglue. Then I made the screwholes for the neck in the cards with a punch put the guitar together made sure all the neck and all the rest of the screws on the bridge where tight and strung it up. I made sure I did not overtight any of the screws though. I tighten the trussrod but a 12 string necks is under heavy load so it will go in to a bow after some time so I will have to adjust it at least one more time. I tune it in open G which looks to work and sound really interesting. I do not play slide on it but use a pick or play with my fingers.

  • @rogerbranton1752
    @rogerbranton1752 Před 3 lety

    I got a Framus Texan 6 string that someone had rescued outta the trash. At some point, a heavy boot had apparently met the sound board with some force! But all the parts were there....
    Over a l-o-n-g time, I made a new top, using the splintered one as a pattern and fixed up various other fractures that the afore-mentioned boot had caused. It was just a let's-see-if-I-can project but I'm glad I put the time in. These Frami (plural for Framus?) are really nice guitars!
    I dig your content, Dave!

  • @frankcarter6427
    @frankcarter6427 Před 3 lety +12

    I have a near identical Eko ranger 12 - to play it 'd need fingers with the force of those grips - I don't smash it pieces with a hammer cos I've hated it for so long that I'd miss hating it

    • @billmumbo2697
      @billmumbo2697 Před 3 lety +2

      The Eko ranger looks very similar but was made I Italy I've had mine 48 years and apart from a few battle scar's it still plays and sounds good (though very quiet, very thick top!) I spilt glue on the scratch plate so I sprinkled glitter on on it (trendy in the seventies) to hide the glue that was eating away at the pickguard. Keep it tuned down to D these days...👍

    • @stevenpape2021
      @stevenpape2021 Před 3 lety

      @@billmumbo2697 These European 12s are good. listen to early Genesis. All that string tension pulls the top up, but if you shim the neck pocket with one of those stiffners from a shirt collar it brings it back down again. That was received wisdom in the 70s, I wonder what Dave would make of that? I keep my 12 downtuned too, Drop C.

  • @thatdrewrivers
    @thatdrewrivers Před 3 lety +1

    Bloody hell, a Framus. I have an old Framus Mandolin which is lovely. It's not a name I see very often so this was a nice surprise :)

  • @billmumbo2697
    @billmumbo2697 Před 3 lety +2

    My pal has the ,6 string version of this, good sound and action built like a battle ship .

  • @brocklanders6172
    @brocklanders6172 Před 3 lety +7

    This is the same exact model 12-string the Beatles used on 'You've Got to Hide Your Love Away'.

    • @brocklanders6172
      @brocklanders6172 Před 3 lety +1

      How's about it Dave - please play it when you're done with the guitar.

    • @stevelomas4119
      @stevelomas4119 Před 3 lety

      Nope they used a Framus Hootenanny guitar, tail piece is different and no zero fret...so not "the same exact model"...more misinformation.
      instagram.com/p/BLzf4gvhJp4/?epik=dj0yJnU9MXdSNXVOeGt1TWx0Sjh2ZVVFcmpma0hkS1pJeVBISDcmcD0wJm49WWd2NGNweGhnbXFrNUZtNnFuM3dwQSZ0PUFBQUFBR0JRYUFj

  • @rickfiedler6008
    @rickfiedler6008 Před 3 lety +1

    Classic Loop FM t-shirt! The radio station in Chicago I grew up with!!

  • @davidjohnston4240
    @davidjohnston4240 Před 7 měsíci

    I have a very early 1950s Framus 12 string. It has the same headstock inlay and a zero fret but not the stylized bridge and pickguard - just a normal bridge and pickguard. I have no clue if it's worth a lot of money or not. I got it from a colleague many years ago, who got it from his professor at Cambridge university, who got it new in Germany. The quilted arched back is gorgeous. For an old 12 string acoustic, it has a very flat, straight neck with nice low action. I have never seen another one - only these later models.

  • @rickenbacker315
    @rickenbacker315 Před 3 lety +9

    The Beatles used Framus guitars every once in awhile. Lennon's was a Hootenanny 5-024. A rare instrument..

    • @flagemdown66
      @flagemdown66 Před 3 lety

      Rare as $1 bills! These were good instruments in their day but there's tons of them. Everybody had Framus guitars. They were cheap and plentiful. Still are. If they can't be fixed they make great canoe paddles or shovels. I've owned a student model and a 6 string jumbo.

    • @joshuaross4644
      @joshuaross4644 Před 3 lety +1

      The Beatles had 1 Framus and it was the Hootenanny. Hasn’t been seen since 1965 and you know why ???? It probably fell apart 🤣

    • @rickenbacker315
      @rickenbacker315 Před 3 lety +1

      @@joshuaross4644 Lol, probably..!

  • @stevenpape2021
    @stevenpape2021 Před 3 lety

    When the top is pulled up, check the bracing isn't pulled loose. If it is then it's remove the back time. Fun stuff.

  • @foxyfrench3857
    @foxyfrench3857 Před 3 lety

    I have a six strings guitar who looks like to this one. It's a Klira made in west Germany. It seems that this guitar is a "big valley" from 1972. I used to play with it, it's my only accoustic guitar.

  • @MrGixxer1300r
    @MrGixxer1300r Před 3 lety

    A piece of square stock that fits between those hooks on the tuner plate, but tall enough to be taller than the hooks would flatten the plate.

  • @SlowfingerJC
    @SlowfingerJC Před 9 měsíci

    The neck looks like a really good piece of quarter sawn.

  • @strattom2881
    @strattom2881 Před 3 lety +3

    Greetings from Germany, i have old MUSIMA from GDR

  • @beatletech1
    @beatletech1 Před 3 lety +1

    Lennon played a Framus 12 string on Polyethene Pam and She Came in Through the Bathroom Window. They played both songs together with no edits. You can hear it in the famous opening chords and in the mix. He could have bought the best 12 string guitar in the world but no, he just used his beloved old Framus .

  • @henryhunter5026
    @henryhunter5026 Před 3 lety

    I bought an early 70s 6 string model of this guitar for about $6 at a car boot sale a few years ago, the label inside reads “ made in the heart of Bavaria “. Most of the fittings are exactly the same as your 12 string including the massive over engineered bridge. The guitar is built like a tank with internal braces that could hold your roof up. It’s certainly not anything like a Martin or Gibson but it’s fun to play occasionally.

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle Před 3 lety +2

    "The thing with a 12-string ... the charm is it's out of tune" ... 🤣
    Gotta love Dave !

  • @glennhynes5263
    @glennhynes5263 Před 3 lety +1

    Tesla was quite the inventer/genius. He once opined, "you don't know what you got til its gone."
    Or was that Edison? Maybe Cinderella?
    So many great inventors.

  • @PhillRobinson
    @PhillRobinson Před 3 lety

    This reminds me of my vintage EKO.

  • @dongonzulman6478
    @dongonzulman6478 Před 3 lety +2

    Fascinating stuff, Dave :D

  • @andrewmuelleranantababaji8073

    Dave your my Hero, you fixed that tuners with patients. I would still been online trying find new tunes, woder what locking tuners on 12 string acoustic

  • @stevenpape2021
    @stevenpape2021 Před 3 lety

    There's nothing like spooging out. :D

  • @erickaufmancustomguitars1351

    Hi guys, I had the pleasure of working on one of these in the past year. Cool guitar indeed. The one I worked on was about the same year, surely the same model. It had exactly the same issue with the decorative deal on the headstock. Good news it's still available new. Around 60-80 usa. Its brass. Shouldn't have turned to dust tho lol..

  • @anderjl276ps
    @anderjl276ps Před 3 lety

    I have one of these. Great playing and sounding guitars.

  • @sanborns
    @sanborns Před 3 lety

    good job ....

  • @adamdewitt1
    @adamdewitt1 Před 3 lety

    I had a 12 string just like that back in the early 90's

  • @SgtSteel1
    @SgtSteel1 Před 3 lety

    I've never even heard of Framus but that looks like a really nice guitar. Seems very well made.

  • @DavidFell
    @DavidFell Před 3 lety

    I did the Loop radio T-shirt! Memories!

  • @MichaelandCathy1999
    @MichaelandCathy1999 Před 3 lety +3

    A rare gem, just needs extra TLC, I’ve got faith in you Dave! Kudos from Montreal

    • @jimbucket2996
      @jimbucket2996 Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe rare but that framus badge don't make it a gem.

  • @forresta65
    @forresta65 Před 2 lety

    the loop. haven't seen one of those tshirts since the 80s.

  • @leelossi1257
    @leelossi1257 Před 3 lety

    great job Dave-- Part 3 & 4 will be tuning that 12 string!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @steveroberts2180
    @steveroberts2180 Před 3 lety

    Unclampulate; My vocabulary expands with every Vid,cheers Dave.

  • @theuglytruth886
    @theuglytruth886 Před 3 lety

    Shame, could've been Framus' best ever "11 stringed" acoustic! Vielen Dank, Deutschland!

  • @nickafiedguitarstechandrep9617

    Great Video Dave....Nice to see you knocking out so much work again. Cheers Nick (Nickafied Guitars)

  • @santrixhimself3679
    @santrixhimself3679 Před 3 lety +2

    I have one of these but the previous owner did a 'conversion' to 6 string which included chopping off the upper half of the headstock

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 3 lety

      ... helped with the neck-dive ... and tuning !

    • @santrixhimself3679
      @santrixhimself3679 Před 3 lety

      @@Jester-Riddle why would it help with tuning? I would just use 6 instead of 12 strings if i wanted my 12 string to be a 6 string

    • @Jester-Riddle
      @Jester-Riddle Před 3 lety

      @@santrixhimself3679 ... because only having 6-strings that can be strung helps with tuning ... having dealt with the neck-dive issues ...
      Yes. I understand that you are 'being sensible', but not everyone is like that ...

  • @stimpsonjcat67
    @stimpsonjcat67 Před 3 lety +2

    I would have pulled the plates off, rested on my anvil face, and used a punch to pein the backside until it was straight.
    Oh gack...at least a c-clamp Dave!

  • @martinfrog768
    @martinfrog768 Před 3 lety

    I have one of those ... it is more of a cherry sunburst though ... same issues ... the neck is stable and true

  • @void0094
    @void0094 Před 3 lety

    No problem Canada

  • @bskitchenriffs6522
    @bskitchenriffs6522 Před 3 lety +1

    That straight paddle headstock scares me.

  • @Tom.Klingl
    @Tom.Klingl Před 3 lety

    I grew up in Germany, when Framus still existed as a company. I always preferred their (smaller) competitor Hoyer over them in terms of build quality. A luthier who built me a 12-string in the 80s did his apprentice time there. He always had fun horror stories about their late 70s before they went bankrupt (they blamed it on Japanese guitars but I heard that mismanagement was the true reason). However their more expensive builds were good, such as the Jan Akkerman and the Attila Zoller guitar models. Ahhhhh, I remember those laminated necks - they actually almost never warped ...

  • @S900KYB
    @S900KYB Před 3 lety

    Kind of reminds me of the EKO range of acoustics

  • @BigWilleyMusicandFun
    @BigWilleyMusicandFun Před 3 lety +2

    ive used a nut a bolt and some washers bent em back before

  • @jonnorris4204
    @jonnorris4204 Před 3 lety

    Tiday's ad on your channel- McDonalds new Chicken Sandwich. Maybe its good?

  • @giljusino
    @giljusino Před 3 lety

    Good job Dave!

  • @briansimpson8116
    @briansimpson8116 Před 3 lety

    More videos like this one where you make repairs, instead of just set ups.👍

  • @SeanKerns
    @SeanKerns Před 3 lety +1

    On those tuner plates, I'd probably remove them, and try to either clamp them flat in the jaw of a small vise, or peen them flat against an anvil. You could even go a little concave on it, so it flattens when reinstalled. Problm is, you need to go a touch past flat to get them to lay flat.

  • @richardsisk1770
    @richardsisk1770 Před 3 lety

    I had one of these in the late ‘60s. Tuners were always a problem.

  • @Onionbaron
    @Onionbaron Před 3 lety

    I got one of these babes....

  • @ToddSauve
    @ToddSauve Před 3 lety +4

    Why don't you just use a magnetic tipped screwdriver Dave? No more fumbling with screws ... 😕

    • @richardlewis1243
      @richardlewis1243 Před 3 lety

      Non ferrous screws

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve Před 3 lety

      @@richardlewis1243 Thanks for your reply Richard. I Googled non ferrous screws for electric guitars but couldn't find anything relevant. Do you repair guitars or how did you come to believe that non magnetic screws make a difference? With all the magnetism of the average set of pickups, I wouldn't think magnetism in the screws would make any difference. And this Framus is an acoustic guitar. Anyway, let me know what you know because I'm interested.

  • @Ukedc259
    @Ukedc259 Před 3 lety +1

    “Get out your tissues, because we got issues”. 😂

  • @Fissi0nChips
    @Fissi0nChips Před 3 lety

    Seems like a nice old guitar

  • @samtate1260
    @samtate1260 Před 3 lety +2

    Urea is lambs piss I am not kidding they use it to melt snow around Lake Michigan back before I retired

    • @disprogreavette8545
      @disprogreavette8545 Před 3 lety +1

      Woe, I thought them salting the roads with beet juice around my Canadian province was strange.

  • @mamulcahy
    @mamulcahy Před 3 lety +2

    Dave, is that a Chicago Loop t-shirt? Used to be radio station WLUP

    • @luvzmocha
      @luvzmocha Před 3 lety +1

      Steve and Gary were the best!!

  • @w13rdguy
    @w13rdguy Před 3 lety

    Those style tuners are available online for cheap, if you don't mind altering the "originality." Can't promise the screw holes would match, either, but once that metal has reached that level of fatigue...

  • @MrTomengle
    @MrTomengle Před 3 lety +1

    I used to have a cat named Framus.

  • @vrvretro
    @vrvretro Před 3 lety

    I have one of these.

  • @jmccaintx
    @jmccaintx Před 3 lety

    New jacket

  • @petedazer3381
    @petedazer3381 Před 3 lety +1

    Leave it on the porch

  • @songwriterjj6022
    @songwriterjj6022 Před 3 lety +1

    If I could write a hit song on on of those, I'd be rich and Framus! Sorry.

  • @robertwillett4122
    @robertwillett4122 Před 3 lety +1

    Yo Dave, first time watch your show. Love it. I have a question. Just retired after 45 years of finish carpenter. I want to make a guitar. Of course everything metal I will have to source out. But l found a site where I can buy slabs of maple, mahogany, so on. I'm not sure what the water continent should be. But inside of buying a cheapo kit, I guess what I'm asking is should I get a kit first . But I want to try from scratch. Even though I'm retired seems like I'm still lacking time. What do you think?

    • @billmumbo2697
      @billmumbo2697 Před 3 lety

      Do a.kit first and watch Rosa String Works Jerry is building a 12 string at the moment he shows the process from blocks of wood to finished playing instrument, wish I could afford one.

    • @Riverdeepnwide
      @Riverdeepnwide Před 3 lety

      Another great resource is manufacturers shop tour videos. A recent PRS Private Stock vid mentioned their target moisture percentage, of course I can’t recall it.

    • @robertwillett4122
      @robertwillett4122 Před 3 lety

      @@billmumbo2697
      Thanks, Bill.

    • @robertwillett4122
      @robertwillett4122 Před 3 lety

      @@Riverdeepnwide
      Thanks River deepnwide
      I'll look that P.R.S blog up. P.R..S. is currently my favorite.

    • @Riverdeepnwide
      @Riverdeepnwide Před 3 lety

      @@robertwillett4122 👍🏻 you bet.
      PRS also has a video up about making necks. Goldmine of techniques!

  • @andrewmuelleranantababaji8073

    Loop tee shirt thats Chicago

  • @joshuaross4644
    @joshuaross4644 Před 3 lety

    Y’know the saying “You can’t polish a turd” 💩 That originates from the Framus factory when the first Hoot 12 came back for Warranty 😉

  • @billhines2354
    @billhines2354 Před 3 lety +1

    Small C clamp to flatten tuner plate?

  • @johnvenditto2908
    @johnvenditto2908 Před 3 lety

    I'm naming my next band "Shwazz". Only we will get the joke, you're all invited to every gig.

  • @stellingbanjodude
    @stellingbanjodude Před 3 lety

    The lack of angle in that headstock is disconcerting

  • @rickb1973
    @rickb1973 Před 3 lety +3

    "Hydrolyzed collagen and urea" = So....skin and piss, then....

  • @frodehau
    @frodehau Před 3 lety

    I have had an almost identical Eco 12 string sitting around waiting to be repaired for way too long. The tuners need replacing, and are hard to find. I'll have to read up on the similarities to Framus.
    Btw, the frets on the Eco are aluminium, what a stupid idea!

  • @moegizzard5788
    @moegizzard5788 Před 3 lety +1

    Dave sometimes it feels like you're about to just start yelling out a lot of cuss words and throw the guitar, but no you keep your cool and fix even the shittiest ones..

  • @csvelec
    @csvelec Před 3 lety

    I have the same model that need some love ... interested?

  • @andrewhodgson8895
    @andrewhodgson8895 Před 3 lety

    “Unclampulate it” - from a very old Canadian dictionary????? 😂

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Před 3 lety

    UK are Celsius too, in a mirror image of you, I have no real conception of Fahrenheit as a measurement of temperature. On the flip side of that we use miles (Imperial for a reason) and other than 50kms = 30mph and 80kms being 50mph I can't really relate to that either, mind you I was never any good at maths.

    • @dangolguitartech
      @dangolguitartech Před 3 lety +1

      Celsius to Fahrenheit: 9/5+32.
      And 1.6 km equals 1 mile.
      I spent nearly 2 decades traveling the world and sometimes it’s the little things that make it easier. Good luck with your conversions!🤠

    • @jimdoner3443
      @jimdoner3443 Před 3 lety +2

      Water freezes @ 32 degrees farenheit and boils @ 212.

    • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
      @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Před 3 lety

      @@dangolguitartech thanks for trying, unfortunately even the first equation you give makes no sense to me. 🤷

    • @dangolguitartech
      @dangolguitartech Před 3 lety +1

      @@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 LOL… let me see if I can break it down a little easier.
      Let’s say it’s 20°C… 1/5 of 20 is 4.
      9×4 = 36 and 36+32 is 68.
      Therefore, 20°C is 68°F.
      Knowledge is power and I try to learn something new every day… I’ve lost most of my eyesight over the past six years or so and I really have to work to keep my brain moving... I have tons of things floating around in my head at all times, some very useful and some not so much. So, even if this is something you never use now you at least know how to do it and it’ll be a little piece of trivia to keep your neurons firing on all cylinders.
      All the best to you and yours!

    • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
      @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dangolguitartech cheers, all the best to you and yours too 😁

  • @MarkGeraghty
    @MarkGeraghty Před 3 lety +1

    Tesla would have worked this problem through in his mind, then he would have checked it in the dumpster.

  • @GTsuji
    @GTsuji Před 3 lety

    Hey Dave, how’s my bird cage?

  • @larryburwell8550
    @larryburwell8550 Před 3 lety

    Dave you get some of the damn screwed up guitars I've seen but do your best to fix them. Us this some kinda Dave's challenge ?

  • @jimbucket2996
    @jimbucket2996 Před 3 lety +1

    The epiphone texan was a bolt on dreadnought too.

    • @brocklanders6172
      @brocklanders6172 Před 3 lety +1

      Nope. Set neck. Identical to a Gibson J 45.

    • @BrucetheK
      @BrucetheK Před 3 lety +1

      Are you sure? I would have thought it was a set neck, just like the Gibson J45 equivalent.

  • @marcussoininen2084
    @marcussoininen2084 Před rokem

    Many a year ago I had a Framus J-bass "copy". It was absolutely awful to play and sounded awful. I tried to look it up just now and can't find anything on the particular model but I figure it was probably made around the time they went bankrupt which I feel was entirely justified.

  • @andrewmuelleranantababaji8073

    Cows hooves and piss? Glue

  • @DrewKane
    @DrewKane Před 3 lety +2

    Why would the guitar thank Germany? (Punctuation matters, Dave!)

  • @liverpoolred2834
    @liverpoolred2834 Před 3 lety

    Get out your tissues coz we have issues......LOL

  • @MuscleDad420
    @MuscleDad420 Před 3 lety

    Somebody bring something nice to Dave to work on. Working on crap is killing him.

  • @BurninSven1
    @BurninSven1 Před 3 lety

    I would love to watch but like always the first I see is an advert for some crap so I move on

  • @burningbridgesthesilvershi2490

    Gd that's a racist commercial before the video started

  • @kengihepworth7568
    @kengihepworth7568 Před 3 lety

    That headstock angle.... just looks shite.

  • @joshuaross4644
    @joshuaross4644 Před 3 lety

    Framus 12 string acoustic = Crap 💩
    They have a tendency to eventually implode on themselves no matter what you do to save them. Especially those bolt on neck versions. The neck pocket block/brace eventually gives way

  • @billmumbo2697
    @billmumbo2697 Před 3 lety +5

    My pal has the ,6 string version of this, good sound and action built like a battle ship .

    • @stevenpape2021
      @stevenpape2021 Před 3 lety

      Slacken the stings and shim the front of the neck pocket.

    • @billmumbo2697
      @billmumbo2697 Před 3 lety

      @@stevenpape2021 no need my EKO has a straight neck with a small amount of relief so has a low action and although quiet (thick top ) and I tune down to D so it plays well even the intonation is bearable and it records well because it has an even response. There's loads of old film of people using EKO,'s including the late great Did Little of Little and Large fame untill he traitorously switched to Ovation!!! .

    • @billmumbo2697
      @billmumbo2697 Před 3 lety

      Sid little bloody predictive text!!!