IMPROVED Could A-10 Warthog Squadron Have Prevented The WWII London Raids? (WarGames 4b) | DCS
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- We simulate a German World War 2 Ju-88 bombing raid on London, but instead of send up Spitfires and Hurricanes to intercept them, we send a squadron of A-10 Warthogs.
*sorry about my voice in this - I'm so tired at the moment I'm struggling to speak.
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Have you tried a large bomber raid vs some modern air defence systems? Would a Luftwaffe bomber run be dense enough to just eat all the SAM ammo and still get enough ordinance on target?
I've done a couple:
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Grim Reapers are the Red Letter Media of simulations: talented, insightful, fun and yet complete idiots. Perfect.
Complete idiot best idiot.
@@grimreapers You wouldn't want to be accused of phoning it it. Pfft. Imagine only being a partial idiot!?
@@grimreapers* Rich Evans cackles in the distance *
Love the driving starts! Realism, you know those A-10 pilots were crazy jeep drivers during the blitz.
lol
We do need more drives to work😂
“Has anyone still got missiles?”
[Cut to wide shot and *brrt* *brrrrrt* *BRRRRT* *brrt* *BRRRT*]
lol Kudos, editor.
Should’ve titled it: “Cap learns what oversteer is”
7:00 That German train was probably even more lost than you guys 😉
How about Iron Dome as WW2 London protection?
ooo I like that.
Keen to see this!
It would be good
What about trying the A-10 Warthogs against B-17 bombers? That would be a welcome change from the Ju-88s since the B-17 is a different beast altogether. I still recall the 1960/1970s SAM and GEN 2/GEN 3/GEN 4 jet fighter intercept scenarios showing how tough they were when taking all that damage.
I second this
You want US aircraft attacking US aircraft? Not saying it wouldn’t be interesting but it sounds kinda like an inter squad scrimmage instead of an NFL game.
@@ryanerickson8138 Yes US aircraft vs US aircraft, why not?
@@ryanerickson8138 the dream scenario of Russian propagandists: Yellowstone explodes, dollar crashes, USA splits in a civil war, modern tech fails, they have to fall back to old proven tech like t-62... sorry, old prop bombers, but somebody still retains a couple of a-10s.
I thought of this too... The difference is that the B-17 is much more survivable than the German bombers, so it would be interesting to see how they perform. The B-17's have more guns and more engines, so already there, there's a difference. Also be interesting to add P-51's into the mix, escorting the bombers.
Those away shots with the A10 guns was like a symphony.
The good thing is that A-10s look like they belong in WWII. Still my favourite plane, stick some GE90s on the back and you've got yourself an interceptor.
I wonder how well 1 modern carrier could help prevent the blitz.
Yeeeeees...
A "Final Countdown" sort of scenario with a US carrier (or British) appearing in the Channel?
Thanks for saving Blighty, chaps. Wonderful stuff👍
That road trip reminds me a lot of the Arma sessions.
The problem is, driving a car makes you realise hwo slow the A-10 is afterwards.
“Drop” sounds like ‘Charlie Hunam” great episode GR.
I'll brush up on Sons Of Anarchy quotes for next time, can't guarantee my American accent will be as good!
These videos should have hundreds of thousands of views. Not tens.
Love the content, happy I found you. Been binge watching for days!!
The relief he must’ve felt when he heard that the burning carcass was going to miss him.
And the slight disappointment.
@16:20 that reminds me of Porco Rosso when someone shouted at him "I'll make Prosciutto out of you!" :)
You guys are a riot! Love that you take it serious yet have a good sense of humor. Was thinking how fun it would be with Korean War era aircraft. My "Final Countdown" twisted brain also thinks it'd be interesting to see a couple of WWII fighters against say 20-30 WWI era birds! 😆 (be fun to fly with you guys)
Had to comment again i love that the a10 you use has my state flag on it
On a more serious not keep up the great content and hope baby gr is doing well
thx
16:26 I love how your first instinct when getting damage is to ask us viewers what’s going on 😂
I just have another question, how effective the A-10 Warthogs would be if those same Ju-88 bombers had Me-109 and Me-110 fighter escorts to protect them?
Agreed, would add a greater level of realism to this
@@karlosgill Plus, for both B-17 intercept scenarios, the B-17s had fighter escorts to protect the B-17s. I recalled for the B-17s vs. 1960s/1970s SAMs scenario, the players were piloting fighters and some ended up serving as living shields against the SAMs. In both Ju-88 vs. A-10 scenarios, there were no such fighter escorts to compare side-by-side.
That would be a freaking nightmare. We've done a few like that and always ends badly for us.
@@grimreapers I swear in all the scenarios with ww2 fighters vs modern you guys get thrashed
@@grimreapers Which war-gaming scenario videos were those? Plus, what you've described sounds interesting to watch as it's something new.
I don't remember what game it was, but maybe Falcon 4.0, or one of the A-10 specific games years back. But I remember that in at least one of them, the A-10 was considered a bit of an underdog as a fighter, since it could carry 2 sidewinders on most of it's underwing hard points, which I think meant a maximum load out of 12 sidewinders on each jet. I wonder if DCS would allow for that?
I remember that game, around the time era of Falcon 2.0 release. Yes you could mount nearly anything on any pylon. Never had much luck with the Migs but it work well vs the enemy helicopters. In comparison Apache Longbow stingers worked too well.
Not sure if DCS would allow it though.
Holy cow i've never been this early in two a video. It's good to hear you sounding like your normal self cap. Looking forward to seeing what this video is all about it looks fun
"The perfect intercepting A10" nice. :)
Shouldn't be watching this as the wife is trying to sleep. Watching the Jeep shenanigans and busting out laughing. :D
My birthday is May 30th😅
3:08 lmao what was that Cap?😂
It'd be cool af if you set up the ramps again except this time on a mountain! Lol first launch Jeeps then Planes ;)
@ 14:28 ia like that scene from Blazing saddles round the camp fire.
"They did bad things" Hilarious
Total carnage and fun today! Thanks for the vid guys!
It's cool to see you using Kenley airfield.
I live in Kenley, and walked around the (very well-preserved) airfield this morning.
I didn't see any A-10s, but did see Viking gliders (used by the Air Cadets), and plenty of dogs.
We’re just gonna speed by “a guy’s gone inside me”😂😂
yes please
Bert, Burt, Blert, Blurt, nah BRRRRRRTTTTTT!!!!
Great Mission, Guys! Love the video. The jeep driving was too much fun!
Guess driving through the map is a good way to show it off.
"The survivors call it the Pale Horse or the Grey Death... its engines emit a whistling scream, their guns roar with the sound the sky tearing... we must devote all creative and technical force of the Realm into rocketry, or the sky is truly lost."
Since it's a known that A-10s are not good for scramble-type intercepts, maybe a scenario should have them doing combat air patrol instead, maybe dispersed over a few thousand feet of altitude in the middle of the usual altitude range of most German raids (e.g., if Luftwaffe raids most often occur with low-altitude raids coming at 1,000 feet or less and higher-altitude raids coming at 20,000 feet or above, then have A-10s patrolling spread out vertically from 10,000 to 15,000 feet). The mission could start with air spawn of players...
I wonder if it would make a difference long term in an actual campaign? Once the sidewinders are fired off and the Luftwaffe learns what they are up against, it might not be so easy. (Once they learn how SLOW the A-10s are for example)
You have all the advantages. Wow, they didnt even have fighter escorts. Hope that made you guys feel like real men
What about a jeep race, but with a heli or aircraft in the air trying to blow everyone up before they reach the finish line?
Hey GR, just a suggestion for a future mod you could make. In modern SEAD ops one important tool to use is aerial decoys; I know that core game has the ADM-141 TALD decoy, but a newer decoy currently in use is ADM-160 MALD that upgrades the range to 920 km. It would be interesting to see a more complete SEAD doctrine implemented into the game!
That’s a great idea! If I remember correctly, MALD also has a version which uses EW to simulate the radar return of other aircraft so it can make itself look like a real F-15, C-5, etc. to enemy radars.
@@MaxIsStrange1 Ah, yes. Well, its just that EW doesn't work on weapons, so it will just have to function as a TALD with extra range.
@@totalnerd5674 Right. I forgot that DCS is pretty horrible at modeling anything EW-related 😕
@@totalnerd5674 On the other hand, there might be a workaround. Since it’s only launched from the F/A-18, you could try to make it imitate only the Hornet and, instead of using EW, set the TALD’s RCS to the identical value to the F/A-18’s and basically copy over all the relevant values. It seems like it might work…
However, even a simple decoy with such an increased range, and with the ability to set its flight path, or make it loiter over a certain area still would be amazing.
@@MaxIsStrange1 Actually I think the core game TALDs already copy the signatures of the launch plane.
Either way it should work well enough.
I hope DCS will be a full sim on ground, sea and air someday where you can do all this crazy shit...
I would like to see a Jeep mission where you are traveling through the mountains trying to avoid helicopters. A kind of hide and seek mission so to speak… could be fun, and you lads are just the group to make it happen 😎
Love Grim Reapers!! You guys are hilarious!!!
Thanks for the hog fun everyone, one of my favorite planes to hear and see. Peace.
Loving the drive through the lush green streets of Lon don regards ..a faithful viewington
Your driving is atrocious 😂 love the channel!
wartbog best bog
Love wartbog.
15:10 oh that was a sexy double kill, weaving through them
When you're so used to piloting planes, you forget how to use a steering wheel on a four-wheeler.
Cap, sorry to say you never get sleep again, even after they're out of the house at university. Good news is you get used to it after a few years.
Wow nice landing!
The jeep drive was funny 😊 I noticed no fighter cover 😮 good stuff..
Best SOUNDING air battle I've ever heard!!!
I was stationed at RAF. Woodbridge/ Bentwaters in the early eighties! I love the A-10’s! Trivia, during WWII the runway was used as a B-17 recovery runway for bombers to shot up and unable to maneuver. Love Ipswich!
My parents live right next to Bentwaters :)
@@grimreapers small world! ❤️
Big gun go brrrr
I was going to say, how can Cap be so bad at driving, yet so good at flying? Then he went ahead and ran into a Ju-88...
I'm a pretty crappy driver IRL also...
@@grimreapers - You make up for it in entertaining commentary and pretty damn good flying skills, tbh.
'That was fun! Liked the driving in London and also when the squad started attacking the bombers with guns. Such a great sound of Brertt Brertt all over the place.
Hah, deanland airfield is a little field just up the road, opposite a retirement village 😂
Watching Grim Reapers is so much like watching Monty Python' Flying Circus. Th fact that Cap sounds like Eric Idle clinches it, lol!
16:27 Shot down by that invisible Messerschmitt
agreed
The bombers did pretty well at killing jets, I was a bit surprised.
Well the A-10 is about the same speed as the things those guns were designed to fend off. And while the armored cockpit means a pilot snipe is basically out, turbines are if anything LESS resistant to damage than piston engines. Aircooled ones at least.
And while an A-10 can retain enough control to RTB with severe damage, they aren't able to do much else if their hydrolics get winged.
Really impressive visuals.
OH!! the BRRRRRRRRT!!!!! Nice ;)
Hi Ello x
Insteresting vid as always, HE-I brrrrrt... awesome.
Have you every done a vid mimicking a ME 163 komet, but in aircraft from different eras reach altitude, use all limited fuel then glide intercept bombers and glide back to base 🤪
Finally, the Hawg doing what it was designed for!
Right, then. Well, maybe in the future you could try intercepting bombers with other bombers just for the LOLs.
Haha loved the start
WOO!!! Nice Maryland ANG representation!
also having worked on that GAU The simulations seem to say those bullets travel one right behind another. Nothing could be further from the truth. They are a very close pattern when we test them out to 75 yards but I had a half a mile the spread is incredible. Probably more like 150 to 200 feet wide, and that's intentional as it was meant to be weapon
Bloody hell man! You've missed a perfect opportunity for a LeMans start. 😂
Wow, what a brrrrt party!
I'm sorry but having to bail due to hitting a plane corpse is hilarious
A wonderfully wacky video.
I heard a while ago on a Ralfi video that the A-10A is a bit lighter than the C model, so it's a bit faster.
The new map looks good. It's just a shame we don't have early war aircraft like the Spitfire Ia and IIa, Hurricane and Bf109E. I guess Cliffs of Dover still has some use.
Roger, I expect the C model has more tech in it?
668 bombs now thats alot of possible damage
thx
Would love to see that jeep race at the airfield lol
Most time I see your videos it makes fun to watch this creative scenarios. As living in germany naturally I would like to see an virtual battle Germany vs. England with ME 262s, Hortens Stealth Jets 229 and H IX, Stukas, and a lot of the other last secret weapons of the Luftwaffe, supported by a lot of V2 missiles, as well as the german fleet and the U-Boat Wolfpack surrounding whole Brittain... ;P The Blitz Storm is coming! ^^
Two things:
1) Can you imagine a fully 21st Century A-10 with all the new accoutrements? Not overhauling existing airframes, but a complete rebuild from the ground up. It's is such an effective weapon, but a next generation version for protection, better avionics, better engines, better everything.
2) Cap needs to either have the Reapers race WWII jeeps on an aircraft carrier deck or launch them from one...
Oh come on! The gun HAS TO spool up. That takes time. And let’s also talk about the poor situational awareness and historical ineffectiveness of the A10
Só much brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt! 🎉😍😍😍 A10 on PC has come a long way since the old DOS A10 Tank Killer by ..sierra online was it? (Nostalgia for that game and F-19 Stealth Fighter brought me here 😊)
Good looking map. Formal Jeep race incoming.
Next up: jeep racing through London.
Just trying to get to the train station reminds me of the shriners in a parade
you should make a hide and seak on London or Paris and like an A-10 or some armored vehicle hunts the little willys, that sounds funny as hell
These fly by shots... If I watch them 20 times more my screen gets wet. Dang that's sexy! Doesn't matter what kind of jet. Just the jet sound ❤
Entertaining.
A-10 is NOT a fighter aircraft.
Try an F-15, F-16 or F-35
USA discovered the way to beat slower aircraft was NOT to dogfight at all. Instead, gain altitude, swoop down until they are momentarily in your gunsights. Shoot, then scoot away before they can respond. This is how the Hellcat defeated the ZERO. A supersonic jet, even limited to cannons, would operate the same way. Swoop, shoot, scoot. Never dogfight with a slower, more maneuverable aircraft. Your superior speed makes it unnecessary.
More challenges against WW2 era with super tucanos or pucaras, hell all the modern counter insurgency aircraft would be fun.
Watching, thank you, vvvvv
Jeeze, two years ago the first one was made? Seems like I just watched it a couple months ago!
I am also worried by this.
that bump/hill in runway would be interesting in the Harrier as a ski jump.....
It is wierd seeing A-10s above the clouds
Lmao I want to see A-10s vs B17s, 24s, and B29s :D
That reconstruction of London you’re driving through is awful!! The rest of the vid and game though is brilliant!
Just started but A-10 as a fighter? This in alien sim territory lol. But always fun.
"Oh God, a guy's gone inside me." -- Cap, 2023 🤣
erm
@@grimreapers 😆
Waiting for the MPs to show. lol
Suddenly, it it all makes sense. 😆🚔
The orginal Jeeps will roll over at as little as 5mph, so their modeled pretty accurately.😂
I would probably get in a bad accident trying to drive in these reversed lanes.
Keeping 2 sidewinders for the end of the fight, would let some last long range kills when out of range of the gun. If ever you do this again! I would'nt mind.
Frogfoots, possibly?