FAQ: 1) The spitfires are used as they closely match the top speed of the the period-accurate BF-109E1-4 fighters(which are not in game) 2) Lots of people saying the A-10 can fly faster and higher than the warbirds. That is only correct if the A-10s are not carrying high weapons/fuel.
I do believe if you'd have assigned 2 Warthogs to focus _only_ on Spits, armed with 2 sidewinders each and nothing else but guns ,(basically a slick Warthog = improved performance), you could have destroyed those Spits earlier. Use the Sidewinders 1st, then guns, then RTB, rearm and wash rinse repeat. Keep those two A-10's double teaming the Spits until you get em all, then loadout with Mavs & cluster bombs & straight make them tanks get _REKT_ lol,,,, 👁️👀👁️🤣😂
Don't forget it's the same for them. Both planes performance should improve the longer they fly(less fuel weight) and the a10's after they burn through half their rds. & bombs.
There should be an interceptor squad flying high cap to protect the ground pounders. Assigning an A10 to act as an interceptor is a wasted sortie IMO. Even a squad of Typhoons or Hurricanes or Brewsters would have been period correct and viable. And this is really my biggest issue with this mission. Every moment wasted dealing with Spitfires was a moment when the A10s were off mission. Other than this issue, I found the mission and video quite entertaining, although I would love to hear from actual A10 pilots to see how they would proceed with this tasking.
What you mean? Some country could definitely try an armored movement against an enemy and with air to air superiority these would wreak having on any enemy movement.
If we're going to have more A-10 shenanigans, how about popping a couple into the battle of Saint-Mihiel? The largest air battle of WW1 with a major contribution from the US Army Air Service.
To add why I like your channel most. You actually show the details, the inner workings of what you're doing, and you don't overproduce to make it look better than it is. Cause it doesn't have to be. Other bigger creators typically make their videos more cinematic and simple. I don't really get a feel for what's going on. You guys also have a sense of humor. It's like the Top Gear of DCS.
That was a much improved performance. Getting rid of the Spitfires was obviously crucial along with extra pilot's. It felt like you all co-operated to a better degree too. Would it have been easier if you had all carried Sidewinders?
Yes. Also, if they had bothered testing it they would have learned that the performance difference made by full fuel and four Sidewinders is about two knots.
@@cockatoo010 Any combination of dedicated air superiority and ground attack would have been more realistic and more effective but I think this was more thought experiment area. Also likely hella fun.
I don't know why, but it seems CZcams is seriously suppressing your videos from being shown/advertised, even to subscribers. I never see your videos over other DCS creators, and I always have to search and click into your channel to get your new contents. And I like your guys' content the most. Keep it up gents, thank you.
Can't imagine being CZcams creator and dependant on the algorithm. Maybe redo the China Taiwan conflict and make sure China doesn't lose any military asset and totally dominate the world. Would be funny to see if anything changes.
If the rule is to not attack after they cross the border, this isn't showing whether of not an A-10 Warthog Air Wing can stop the Blitzkrieg. It's showing whether or not they can stop the invasion.
My wife looked at the thumbnail for this video and the first thing she said was that the A10 looked like Cletus the tow truck from Cars. And now I can't stop seeing it.
Great video once again GR! I do have a slight correction for you though. The A model does have the PAC in a simpler form and you can switch it on and off by toggling the EAC (enhanced attitude control). For the A or C models you always want to have the EAC/PAC off in order to be able to run that beautiful GAU-8 down an entire line of vehicles
Imagine Joachim Peiper reporting back and trying to explain the a$$-kicking his tanks just took to aircraft and guided weapons he had never seen and didn’t know existed!
To be more realistic, there should be another wave of Spitfires coming when the first ones need to refuel. They should be able to always have fighter cover. That might make carrying some Sidewinders more important.
This game is so great because many of us wanted to be pilots but never made it because of poor eyesight, heart problems, poor grades, unwillingness to join the military etc. I personally don't want to surrender my freedom in exchange for the chance to pilot an eagle for few years. You can't fly jets to 30 years in the air force. If you could, every 30 years the whole crop of pilots would retire and it would cripple the air force's fighting power. Instead they keep sending older pilots to a desk and bringing in young ones. The correct balance is 50% veterans and 50% new recruits. Thus at no time will the air force experience a mass retirement of pilots a year before a war. Instead the air force experiences a balanced, staggered retirement rate. These people study everything, they know things. To whom it may concern, my 3 favorite aviation art books are : - Aviation Art by Lou Drendel - Warbirds by Adam Tooby - Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
My family used to go to the Carson Sink out of Fallon Nevada. They had dozens of old tanks shot to pieces. The steel looked like a hot poker was shoved through cheese.
Here's a scenario I would Love to see you guys do. Adlertag, with a twist. 'He-Must-Not-be-Named' doesn't switch the focus of the Luftwaffe from strategy to terrorism, instead keeps pounding the RAF... both at the airbase and the factory. Then put 'Sealion' into operation... Do it honest on both sides... I would watch that! (Great vid here, as always... thanks.
Regardless of how you do in the game, if you read the actual military historic dogma of the time, blitzkrieg requires air superiority to be successful. So, yes, if you take away air superiority in any form, there is no blitzkrieg.
Good job once again. I know you guys set the numbers and conditions to achieve a win, but I think if you mauled an armoured division/regiment/whatever that badly, it wouldn't be much use to anyone for a big chunk of the rest of the campaign. And that in itself is a bit of a win.
Even in WWII CAS only inflicted casualties in the single digits and it still caused mass panic all out of proportions to their losses. Having CAS where 25-50 percent of all the vehicles in an entire Panzer Division getting annihilated (plus all the panicked radio traffic that would accompany that) would cause absolute Bedlam on the Ground.
@@cnlbenmc the success of ground attack in ww2 in the aggregate doesn't really tell the whole story, imo - air and combined arms doctrine were really poorly understood at the time, and the equipment and tactics available at the time did not lend themselves well to effective CAS or precision strike. heavy bombers could basically only carpet bomb, which wasn't a good choice for CAS. ground interdiction, on the other hand... allied fighters and fighter bombers were REALLY good at ground interdiction. for instance, during operation cobra, on july 28th 1944, american p-47s destroyed a column of over 100 german tanks (plus hundreds of other vehicles) fleeing normandy through roncey, primarily with guns - not gau/8s, just browning m2 50cals it's also worth noting that a lot of the timetables of blitzkrieg and other german-initiated offensives in ww2 were plotted down very specifically, even as far as to the minute, and relied on things like roads and bridges surviving intact and no traffic jams occurring. knocking out (or even just mobility killing) heavy armor in the lead of a column and blocking a road or destroying a key bridge could effectively take an entire panzer army out of the fight for hours or even days while they tried to remove the obstruction or find a way around with a bridge stout enough to support tiger tanks could a flight of a-10s destroy the german armored advance of the blitzkrieg? maybe. could a flight of a-10s STOP the blitzkrieg entirely by simply taking out every bridge across the rhine with mavericks? absolutely and it'd take less than an hour
Another tale that was related to me regarding how low the A-10 can operate: Two Hogs flying alone, one pilot says to the other, "Think you might wanna pull up a bit?" "Why" "Check your rear view mirrors." Dirt was coming up over the tail.
The A-10 is very, very good at what it was designed for - but sadly nothing much else. I'd love to see this mission repeated with 1 or 2 F-16s on the A-10s side.
Your videos are fun to watch, and the concept of "what if" an entertaining mental exercise, but ultimately unsatisfying. You would need to be able to simulate the full scope of military combined forces doctrine that was developed for these scenarios and units. A-10’s are close air support for ground forces, they coordinate strikes with air superiority elements, mobile and heavy ground forces, and long range ground to ground artillery units. The question then becomes, "in a combined forces engagement with the A-10 being the only modern unit in an otherwise historical engagement, could they have…..?" I think the answer is a resounding "yes", assuming they are used in the role for which they were designed and properly supported with combined forces doctrine.
A bit late for giving advice, but these missions really should be set up to have 33% casualties as the final goal. In a real war, that's more than enough to render an enemy force incapable of waging war, due to wounded, lost supplies, and just plain ol' morale.
Can you use the Bofors in combined arms? Shame you don't all just jump on the guns after crash/kill. Really could do with someone actually behaving as a GCI from the get go lol. Absolutely love this particular mission. A-10C Sunday funday doing this would be hilarious. And probably server killing.
They really dont use anything big or fancy honestly DCS is probably similar to whats in use now, or a good flight simulator of some other type. Not everything (actually almost nothing) about everyday military activities is some super secret black ops NSA james bond cool guy space laser special operation, just because its the military. Actually, most of the time its kind of the opposite, trying to use the least/less advanced, cheaper thing to try to save an extra nickel and going for the lowest bidder's entry on anything that isnt absolutely vital to save millions of dollars/lives
I would rather a squad of A-10 helping the entire Market Garden operation. Battle of The Bulge being Nazis' last hail mary attempt out of desperation while praying the weather is in their favor, and Patton still weeks away from helping the entrenched allies.
Q: can an A-10 attack wing stop the battle of france A: YES. the A10 was designed and built to be a ground support aircraft for close range to friendlies.
unfortunately the game can't account for the psychological effect of A-10s in 1940's on the Panzer regiments and then having said A-10's wipe out a good chunk of a Panzer regiment.
Yeah, in Afghanistan if the Taliban heard _anything_ that sounded like an Apache or an A-10 in the air they would break contact and *VANISH* They ain’t messing around with either of those platforms. Watching an entire tank squadron vanish in a wet fart of .30cal Depleted Uranium death would absolutely break the morale of the Germans.
@@realburglazofficial2613 Even though the Stryker MGS is a useless POS it had a massive effect on Taliban morale. They wouldn't go anywhere near it. But definitely, 30mm APEI would have made German High Command rethink the entire war. This few aircraft inflicting this many casualties would have made the entire German Army reconsider invading anything. The speed that these moved at and the missiles themselves would have seemed like alien tech.
@@shinomori69 same with the British Scimitar AFV. Absolutely dogshit bit of kit, but it’s was _quick._ Except for a really big IED, nothing could really slow it down or stop it. Talibs wouldn’t hang around long after it showed up.
I can barely imagine how a squadron of A-10 jet fighters can aid the Allies in repelling the Nazi invasion through the Ardennes Forest. The Führer would NOT SEE that coming! I definitely love this video and y'all nailed it!
This was actually an interesting vid: I was thinking why drones are not used more for attacking positions like these and thinking that an aircraft like the A10 would be a great platform for strikes like these but when you see the sim (and even some of the sea battles you have simulated) that either your targets are not always easy to see, or in the grand scheme of things, incoming weapons are extremely small and hard to hit: CWIS incoming rounds don't look as effective when seen from the viewpoint of the missile, and tanks and trucks are tiny specs to attack as targets of opportunity unless you have some advanced sensors allowing them to stand out (passive ir at night), so throwing up drones and have them hunting for a tiny target over a wide area is a lot harder than it looks!
@@grimreapers It seems to me that your goal is simply to destroy a certain number of ground targets before they cross the border. The A-10 is an excellent ground attack aircraft but is so slow you are losing them to spitfires. The F-15E would be able to destroy ground targets and make mincemeat out of the spitfires as well. Haven't looked up the F-16, but with proper bombs, it should be able to do so as well. Once again, just a thought.
Pretty sure there was a point at which the Panzer divisions were forced into a massive single-file. French leadership received reports of this armor backup and didn’t respond until the blitzkrieg was fully underway. Guessing the A10s would’ve annihilated that column without much fuss.
The Russians may have such a thing. I don't know if it really worked, but there were stories of such a thing some time ago. Also the more modern dogfighting missiles have what's referred to as an "over the shoulder" ability that allows you to fire them at targets behind you even though the launch forwards.
Could you load say two A-10 for air to air shoot down the air superiority fighters and then rearm them for air to ground? Oh and you’re right an A-10 can’t out turn a spitfire but you could out climb it, the spits had petrol driven engines and although they did come up with a solution late in the war it would be at this point. Good luck
@@grimreapers you did good, you won, it’s nearly Christmas and that’s all that matters. Well done to Cap on the successful deployment of the avenger against German armoured formations, he was fearless in using it, really nicely done 🙂
I think Simba wanted to do that but then he got Spits on his tail and decided the best thing he could do was drag them and any others he could get to pick him up away from those performing ground attack. He kept several of them off the other guys for quite a while.
@@christophero55 Yes, he did and that was some inspiring flying to keep them away for as long as he did and the use of the triple A at the field was also a great call (I think that was Cap). I think this really highlights the skill and dedication of the allied pilots who almost closed the Falaise pocket (which I think the Grim reapers recreated) and actually how difficult that would have been with the aircraft of the day. Anyway Merry Christmas and a happy new year 🥳
What I found odd was the resilience of the German vehicles to bursts from the GAU-8. Particularly since the Panzers and StuGs only have ~10mm of armor on the upper surfaces. I’d have expected any of its rounds to be capable of punching through armor that thin. And a single one of the HE-I shells detonating inside the crew compartment of a 251 would be utterly catastrophic. I’m also kind of surprised that the game doesn’t offer the 109E, nor presumably the Spit I or II, since having access to the BoB era would be such a huge draw.
I Just noticed The bird you're flying. Thank you. I love it when my hometown ANG gets a nod. Seeing that Raven on the side is sweet. I love hearing them when they are getting some sky time. Go Ravens.
I've seen a demo of what I believe was called the Wasp missle system when I was in the Air Force.. An A-10 launches it and it has about 100 small missles which target individual targets. Can wipe out an entire group of tanks with 1 shot.
Good in theory. But it relies on no SPAA/ jamming. Countermeasures or ERA. The missiles are so small there’s no dual charge penetrators. And relies the A10 to fly stable for over a minute for the targeting pod to track and designate all 100 targets.
This might be a stupid idea, but since a lot of the time was spent on traveling and also outrunning spits, I wonder how well switching to a wing of F/A-18Cs would go. Sure, they don't have that gorgeous GAU-8, and might carry a couple less missiles/bombs, but you can get to/from the battlefield much faster. You also wouldn't have to evade spits at all.
@@grimreapers yeah that would be difficult. Assuming a wing of 8, each F18 can carry 4 CBU-99s, so thats 32 bombs. If each bomb manages to kill say, 2 tanks, 64 tanks would die in the first run. You would then need to land, resupply, and take off again, and do another run. Could you do two runs in 40 minutes? I don't know, maybe?
This game reminds me a lot of the combat simulator "game" we were testing out when I was stationed in Okinawa with my training department. It didn't really have a name but we could do from team size to squad and platoon and higher. Each person would be set at a computer individually and we could have actual individuals acting as aggressors. It had everything from motor transportation. I dont remember being able to use air assets at the time. We could set the system up for all sorts of situations and such. It was pretty cool. I thought that it would be a very good training tool.
FAQ:
1) The spitfires are used as they closely match the top speed of the the period-accurate BF-109E1-4 fighters(which are not in game)
2) Lots of people saying the A-10 can fly faster and higher than the warbirds. That is only correct if the A-10s are not carrying high weapons/fuel.
Can we get a copy of the mission to try ourselves please?
3) if you ACTUALLY WATCH the videos Cap answers your questions. :-p
I do believe if you'd have assigned 2 Warthogs to focus _only_ on Spits, armed with 2 sidewinders each and nothing else but guns ,(basically a slick Warthog = improved performance), you could have destroyed those Spits earlier. Use the Sidewinders 1st, then guns, then RTB, rearm and wash rinse repeat. Keep those two A-10's double teaming the Spits until you get em all, then loadout with Mavs & cluster bombs & straight make them tanks get _REKT_ lol,,,, 👁️👀👁️🤣😂
Don't forget it's the same for them. Both planes performance should improve the longer they fly(less fuel weight) and the a10's after they burn through half their rds. & bombs.
There should be an interceptor squad flying high cap to protect the ground pounders. Assigning an A10 to act as an interceptor is a wasted sortie IMO. Even a squad of Typhoons or Hurricanes or Brewsters would have been period correct and viable. And this is really my biggest issue with this mission. Every moment wasted dealing with Spitfires was a moment when the A10s were off mission. Other than this issue, I found the mission and video quite entertaining, although I would love to hear from actual A10 pilots to see how they would proceed with this tasking.
Q: Can one a-10 win the American civil war? Probably not, but imagine the people on the ground watching a sky demon maul everything in front of it.
Actually yes it could, given how close the war was at times, a single a-10 at Gettysburg for example, could literally win the civil war lol
@@david7384 No. No jet fuel available in 1860-1865.
@@panzerabwerkanonekerosene 1854
Guarantee if either side had seen one show up at Bull Run, peace talks would have commenced immediately and there would have been no war.
@@panzerabwerkanone No landing strips either.
Historians: 'No you can't just use a A-10 on a blitzkrieg attack!'
Reapers: 'Haha A-10 go *BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*'
And isn't this the final countdown thing???
Edit: not the campaign really, but like a historical paradox thing
Yes doing a whole series of them: czcams.com/play/PL3kOAM2N1YJfr4Se4pdZHratFpDGjdyxq.html
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Imagine being apart of the Panzer Division and you just feel your tank become Swiss cheese due to a jet finally fulfilling it's intended purpose.
yup
a perfect aircraft for a war that already happened and never will again
What you mean? Some country could definitely try an armored movement against an enemy and with air to air superiority these would wreak having on any enemy movement.
@@mro9466 II believe that in any kind of extended conventional warfare the A-10 will be a vital munitions hauler/delivery system.
@@gregbrown1311 China's looking mighty sus.
If we're going to have more A-10 shenanigans, how about popping a couple into the battle of Saint-Mihiel? The largest air battle of WW1 with a major contribution from the US Army Air Service.
rgr
To add why I like your channel most. You actually show the details, the inner workings of what you're doing, and you don't overproduce to make it look better than it is. Cause it doesn't have to be. Other bigger creators typically make their videos more cinematic and simple. I don't really get a feel for what's going on. You guys also have a sense of humor. It's like the Top Gear of DCS.
Roger, yes finally someone gets what I am trying to do!
@@grimreapers Fantastic!!
"...the Top Gear of DCS."
Nailed it my friend! Perfect analogy. This is why we watch GR, and not Growling Spankwinders.
That was pretty cool I'd love to see how a squadron of Apache Longbows would do in this situation thanks for uploading these videos
I would like to see that too
I spent the 90s saving the world on my PC playing the Apache game.
Cap said "Live and Learn, Lots to learn" makes you smarter that 99% of people. Good attitude.
I wake up every day with that question burning in my mind. Thank you
Great video.. Actual german radio call "Aufmerksamkeit!! wir werden von Raumschiffen mit brennenden Nasen angegriffen"
nice!
Allright enough youtube for today, my alarm rings in 3 hours...
If a flock of crows are known as a murder of crows, a flock of A-10 should be called a massacre.
That was a much improved performance. Getting rid of the Spitfires was obviously crucial along with extra pilot's. It felt like you all co-operated to a better degree too. Would it have been easier if you had all carried Sidewinders?
In hinesight yes Sidewinders would have been good idea.
@@grimreapers I told you that last time! The few sidewinders launched last time had about 100% kill rate, unless I'm misrembering. But good job!
Yes. Also, if they had bothered testing it they would have learned that the performance difference made by full fuel and four Sidewinders is about two knots.
Would including one or 2 vipers improve things?
@@cockatoo010 Any combination of dedicated air superiority and ground attack would have been more realistic and more effective but I think this was more thought experiment area. Also likely hella fun.
I don't know why, but it seems CZcams is seriously suppressing your videos from being shown/advertised, even to subscribers. I never see your videos over other DCS creators, and I always have to search and click into your channel to get your new contents. And I like your guys' content the most. Keep it up gents, thank you.
Thanks. Very frustrating.
Can't imagine being CZcams creator and dependant on the algorithm. Maybe redo the China Taiwan conflict and make sure China doesn't lose any military asset and totally dominate the world. Would be funny to see if anything changes.
Comment on everyone even if it’s a couple words. Engagement is huge.
Well I found these videos through suggestions. I think I watched one DCS sales meme video and then bam this channel appears. Glad I found out. 👍
Why do we put up with CZcams? They literally have censors like a bunch of tinpot dictators.
If the rule is to not attack after they cross the border, this isn't showing whether of not an A-10 Warthog Air Wing can stop the Blitzkrieg. It's showing whether or not they can stop the invasion.
At that point the French army is already gone at dunkerque so the battle is already lost
“Your other right!” 😂 Damp did not sound best pleased!
He did not!
My wife looked at the thumbnail for this video and the first thing she said was that the A10 looked like Cletus the tow truck from Cars. And now I can't stop seeing it.
It’s one of the most wished things I’ve ever wanted to do. I would love to take an 8 ship over the beach on D-Day!
Great video once again GR! I do have a slight correction for you though. The A model does have the PAC in a simpler form and you can switch it on and off by toggling the EAC (enhanced attitude control). For the A or C models you always want to have the EAC/PAC off in order to be able to run that beautiful GAU-8 down an entire line of vehicles
thx
The Gau 8 does absolutely _adore_ a straight column of vehicles. . .
These bombs are creating hell on the ground. If I was in the tank which survived this blooody bath I would turn gray in an instant.
Very nice. Really love the A-10, and you showed it off nicely, SuperCap. Thank you for the work and play.
Came for the action, stayed for the cat named pickles
Imagine Joachim Peiper reporting back and trying to explain the a$$-kicking his tanks just took to aircraft and guided weapons he had never seen and didn’t know existed!
If you ever need another A-10CII driver hit me up. I spend most if my time in DCS in the hawg
Yes we do!
@@grimreapers when I get back home from Christmas I'll hit yall up. I need a break from DDCS anyway.
Good to hear you strong, cap. Have a lovely Christmas. 🌲😷🇬🇧
To be more realistic, there should be another wave of Spitfires coming when the first ones need to refuel. They should be able to always have fighter cover. That might make carrying some Sidewinders more important.
CAP: “Stay fast and don’t turn fight the spits”. All other A10s: “Ok, we’ll turn fight the spits.” CAP: “Fucking morons.”
lol welcome to GR...
This video has me firing up DCS for the first time in ages. Brilliant!
This game is so great because many of us wanted to be pilots but never made it because of poor eyesight, heart problems, poor grades, unwillingness to join the military etc. I personally don't want to surrender my freedom in exchange for the chance to pilot an eagle for few years. You can't fly jets to 30 years in the air force. If you could, every 30 years the whole crop of pilots would retire and it would cripple the air force's fighting power.
Instead they keep sending older pilots to a desk and bringing in young ones. The correct balance is 50% veterans and 50% new recruits. Thus at no time will the air force experience a mass retirement of pilots a year before a war.
Instead the air force experiences a balanced, staggered retirement rate. These people study everything, they know things.
To whom it may concern, my 3 favorite aviation art books are :
- Aviation Art by Lou Drendel
- Warbirds by Adam Tooby
- Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
You aren't supposed to have your cat in the cockpit! xD
My family used to go to the Carson Sink out of Fallon Nevada. They had dozens of old tanks shot to pieces. The steel looked like a hot poker was shoved through cheese.
Here's a scenario I would Love to see you guys do. Adlertag, with a twist. 'He-Must-Not-be-Named' doesn't switch the focus of the Luftwaffe from strategy to terrorism, instead keeps pounding the RAF... both at the airbase and the factory. Then put 'Sealion' into operation... Do it honest on both sides... I would watch that! (Great vid here, as always... thanks.
I like it.
Please Grim Reaper do it.
Regardless of how you do in the game, if you read the actual military historic dogma of the time, blitzkrieg requires air superiority to be successful. So, yes, if you take away air superiority in any form, there is no blitzkrieg.
Yes, thats how the ussr did it, basicaly spaming the hell out of the IL-2 and yak 3
With the clusters it's best to line up with the column, do the most damage
GAU too
Good job once again. I know you guys set the numbers and conditions to achieve a win, but I think if you mauled an armoured division/regiment/whatever that badly, it wouldn't be much use to anyone for a big chunk of the rest of the campaign.
And that in itself is a bit of a win.
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Even in WWII CAS only inflicted casualties in the single digits and it still caused mass panic all out of proportions to their losses. Having CAS where 25-50 percent of all the vehicles in an entire Panzer Division getting annihilated (plus all the panicked radio traffic that would accompany that) would cause absolute Bedlam on the Ground.
@@cnlbenmc and the existance of GAU8 gatling guns and cluster bombs would send the whole OKW into panic mode
@@cnlbenmc the success of ground attack in ww2 in the aggregate doesn't really tell the whole story, imo - air and combined arms doctrine were really poorly understood at the time, and the equipment and tactics available at the time did not lend themselves well to effective CAS or precision strike. heavy bombers could basically only carpet bomb, which wasn't a good choice for CAS. ground interdiction, on the other hand... allied fighters and fighter bombers were REALLY good at ground interdiction. for instance, during operation cobra, on july 28th 1944, american p-47s destroyed a column of over 100 german tanks (plus hundreds of other vehicles) fleeing normandy through roncey, primarily with guns - not gau/8s, just browning m2 50cals
it's also worth noting that a lot of the timetables of blitzkrieg and other german-initiated offensives in ww2 were plotted down very specifically, even as far as to the minute, and relied on things like roads and bridges surviving intact and no traffic jams occurring. knocking out (or even just mobility killing) heavy armor in the lead of a column and blocking a road or destroying a key bridge could effectively take an entire panzer army out of the fight for hours or even days while they tried to remove the obstruction or find a way around with a bridge stout enough to support tiger tanks
could a flight of a-10s destroy the german armored advance of the blitzkrieg? maybe. could a flight of a-10s STOP the blitzkrieg entirely by simply taking out every bridge across the rhine with mavericks? absolutely and it'd take less than an hour
29:00 - Good Pickles, Good Good Pickles....
Well done guys! Once you guys worked on the spits the rest was a turkey shoot.
Good to hear Pickles :)
You guys are starting to sound like real fighter pilots!
Another tale that was related to me regarding how low the A-10 can operate: Two Hogs flying alone, one pilot says to the other, "Think you might wanna pull up a bit?"
"Why"
"Check your rear view mirrors."
Dirt was coming up over the tail.
That one Hanomag gunner firing madly with his MG34 in a head-on duel with an A-10A before being converted into a fine red mist
These are pretty fun. Im surprised Spitfires are so effectivevat droppi g A-10s, I thought they would be able to out climb
the problem is the A-10 are heavily loaded, this makes them very slow.
@@grimreapers true, you guys did carry alot in.
The A-10 is very, very good at what it was designed for - but sadly nothing much else.
I'd love to see this mission repeated with 1 or 2 F-16s on the A-10s side.
@@macsmith2013 the A10 is the BEST CAS aircraft besides the AC130
Your videos are fun to watch, and the concept of "what if" an entertaining mental exercise, but ultimately unsatisfying. You would need to be able to simulate the full scope of military combined forces doctrine that was developed for these scenarios and units. A-10’s are close air support for ground forces, they coordinate strikes with air superiority elements, mobile and heavy ground forces, and long range ground to ground artillery units. The question then becomes, "in a combined forces engagement with the A-10 being the only modern unit in an otherwise historical engagement, could they have…..?" I think the answer is a resounding "yes", assuming they are used in the role for which they were designed and properly supported with combined forces doctrine.
A bit late for giving advice, but these missions really should be set up to have 33% casualties as the final goal. In a real war, that's more than enough to render an enemy force incapable of waging war, due to wounded, lost supplies, and just plain ol' morale.
Cap and his "turn-fighter" vs. a turn-fighter 👏👏👏 bravo
Can you use the Bofors in combined arms? Shame you don't all just jump on the guns after crash/kill.
Really could do with someone actually behaving as a GCI from the get go lol.
Absolutely love this particular mission.
A-10C Sunday funday doing this would be hilarious. And probably server killing.
I enjoyed the first! Nice to see a redo. Also I'd love to get the mission files!
Jeez Cap I was thinking it was my cat till you said enough pickles 😻
lol
if this is a publicly available simulator , i'd love to see what the modern armies are playing with now :D
yup
Some proprietary nightmare that was developed twenty years ago and ten times over budget.
I’ve flown an F-16 combat simulator and honestly less visually stunning, though a fully functional cockpit is spectacular.
They really dont use anything big or fancy honestly DCS is probably similar to whats in use now, or a good flight simulator of some other type. Not everything (actually almost nothing) about everyday military activities is some super secret black ops NSA james bond cool guy space laser special operation, just because its the military. Actually, most of the time its kind of the opposite, trying to use the least/less advanced, cheaper thing to try to save an extra nickel and going for the lowest bidder's entry on anything that isnt absolutely vital to save millions of dollars/lives
28:32 - Pickles issuing instructions from forward airfield!
I want dinner daddY!
That was a truly exciting and immersive scenario, thanks Grim Reapers!
Wow that says a whole lot about a spitfire man that thing can move . I knew it had a crazy good turning speed .Impressive tail dragger.
I love it when you land and the gun sight goes full hurr-durr!
That was epic. I enjoyed this far too much, thanks a lot
Kept hearing the kitteh and was looking around at mine for who was meeping :) Best Regards and Best Wishes for 2022!
Happy new year!
Nice job reapers. I wonder how this flight of A-10's would have affected the battle of the bulge?
I would rather a squad of A-10 helping the entire Market Garden operation. Battle of The Bulge being Nazis' last hail mary attempt out of desperation while praying the weather is in their favor, and Patton still weeks away from helping the entrenched allies.
Much better guys! Fun stuff
Q: can an A-10 attack wing stop the battle of france
A: YES. the A10 was designed and built to be a ground support aircraft for close range to friendlies.
They were designed to help stop a Soviet mass armor blitzkreig on the plains of Central Europe, so I imagine so.
If you've got one engine, why not tell R2 to fix the other one?
I'm so confused.
This channel is the best thing on CZcams, keep it coming please and merry Christmas to all
unfortunately the game can't account for the psychological effect of A-10s in 1940's on the Panzer regiments and then having said A-10's wipe out a good chunk of a Panzer regiment.
Yeah, in Afghanistan if the Taliban heard _anything_ that sounded like an Apache or an A-10 in the air they would break contact and *VANISH*
They ain’t messing around with either of those platforms.
Watching an entire tank squadron vanish in a wet fart of .30cal Depleted Uranium death would absolutely break the morale of the Germans.
@@realburglazofficial2613 Even though the Stryker MGS is a useless POS it had a massive effect on Taliban morale. They wouldn't go anywhere near it. But definitely, 30mm APEI would have made German High Command rethink the entire war. This few aircraft inflicting this many casualties would have made the entire German Army reconsider invading anything. The speed that these moved at and the missiles themselves would have seemed like alien tech.
@@shinomori69 same with the British Scimitar AFV. Absolutely dogshit bit of kit, but it’s was _quick._ Except for a really big IED, nothing could really slow it down or stop it. Talibs wouldn’t hang around long after it showed up.
Give Pickles a pet once in a while Cap, I'm sure Pickles is a good cat.
Whoever said "You're other Right" has to be prior Military. lol
Kind of funny to listen to the comms...you can tell who has a mil flying background and who doesn't. :)
Just bought my first proper stick Winwing Orion! Not bought myself a toy for years and that was a guitar about 4 years ago!
Good man Jonny!
I can barely imagine how a squadron of A-10 jet fighters can aid the Allies in repelling the Nazi invasion through the Ardennes Forest. The Führer would NOT SEE that coming! I definitely love this video and y'all nailed it!
Depleted uranium printer go BRRRRRR!
That is like asking if Stukas could have destroyed the Royal Navy in the battle of Jutland.
To paraphrase an old Saturday Night Live skit: What if Spartacus had an A-10?
This was actually an interesting vid: I was thinking why drones are not used more for attacking positions like these and thinking that an aircraft like the A10 would be a great platform for strikes like these but when you see the sim (and even some of the sea battles you have simulated) that either your targets are not always easy to see, or in the grand scheme of things, incoming weapons are extremely small and hard to hit: CWIS incoming rounds don't look as effective when seen from the viewpoint of the missile, and tanks and trucks are tiny specs to attack as targets of opportunity unless you have some advanced sensors allowing them to stand out (passive ir at night), so throwing up drones and have them hunting for a tiny target over a wide area is a lot harder than it looks!
What if you did a modern dog fight with a ME 262 with a current fighter jet? Really made my curiosity with these Modern Warfare vs WWII scenarios.
Adding some CAP planes, even WW2 types to cover the attack air craft would be more realistic, and helpful.
agree but we really wanted the hard challenge.
Cap's comment "You ain't getting over the Mekong River" reminds me of Animal House "Was it over when the Germans crossed the Mekong River?"
lol
Pickles was the best part :)
Much cleaner attacks this time around. I noticed this time you attacked the columns lengthwise and the results were much better.
Roger, listened to you guys, or tried to.
@@grimreapers It seems to me that your goal is simply to destroy a certain number of ground targets before they cross the border. The A-10 is an excellent ground attack aircraft but is so slow you are losing them to spitfires. The F-15E would be able to destroy ground targets and make mincemeat out of the spitfires as well. Haven't looked up the F-16, but with proper bombs, it should be able to do so as well. Once again, just a thought.
I thoroughly enjoy watching these gentlemen and ladies, if applicable..
32:32 that was a beautiful kill!
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Pretty sure there was a point at which the Panzer divisions were forced into a massive single-file. French leadership received reports of this armor backup and didn’t respond until the blitzkrieg was fully underway.
Guessing the A10s would’ve annihilated that column without much fuss.
No shark mouths on the A-10s?
And in this vid:ello being a badass😎
needs more shark mouth
@@grimreapers shark mouth oo ha ha
You know, after watching a10s dogfight spits, i started wondering...Why aren’t backwards facing missiles a thing?😂😂
The Russians may have such a thing. I don't know if it really worked, but there were stories of such a thing some time ago. Also the more modern dogfighting missiles have what's referred to as an "over the shoulder" ability that allows you to fire them at targets behind you even though the launch forwards.
Could you load say two A-10 for air to air shoot down the air superiority fighters and then rearm them for air to ground? Oh and you’re right an A-10 can’t out turn a spitfire but you could out climb it, the spits had petrol driven engines and although they did come up with a solution late in the war it would be at this point. Good luck
I wanted someone to do that yes.
@@grimreapers you did good, you won, it’s nearly Christmas and that’s all that matters. Well done to Cap on the successful deployment of the avenger against German armoured formations, he was fearless in using it, really nicely done 🙂
I think Simba wanted to do that but then he got Spits on his tail and decided the best thing he could do was drag them and any others he could get to pick him up away from those performing ground attack. He kept several of them off the other guys for quite a while.
@@christophero55 Yes, he did and that was some inspiring flying to keep them away for as long as he did and the use of the triple A at the field was also a great call (I think that was Cap). I think this really highlights the skill and dedication of the allied pilots who almost closed the Falaise pocket (which I think the Grim reapers recreated) and actually how difficult that would have been with the aircraft of the day. Anyway Merry Christmas and a happy new year 🥳
Nicely done!
have to admit I am sort of addicted to these... :)
what a Christmas miracle! I wake and find a new GR video under great tree.
nice
I love your vids Grim
lol Pickles is having a moment!
Nice video 👍 would a slightly shallower approach give you more time to use the cannons effectively?
What I found odd was the resilience of the German vehicles to bursts from the GAU-8. Particularly since the Panzers and StuGs only have ~10mm of armor on the upper surfaces. I’d have expected any of its rounds to be capable of punching through armor that thin. And a single one of the HE-I shells detonating inside the crew compartment of a 251 would be utterly catastrophic.
I’m also kind of surprised that the game doesn’t offer the 109E, nor presumably the Spit I or II, since having access to the BoB era would be such a huge draw.
I Just noticed The bird you're flying. Thank you. I love it when my hometown ANG gets a nod. Seeing that Raven on the side is sweet. I love hearing them when they are getting some sky time. Go Ravens.
I've seen a demo of what I believe was called the Wasp missle system when I was in the Air Force.. An A-10 launches it and it has about 100 small missles which target individual targets. Can wipe out an entire group of tanks with 1 shot.
wow
Good in theory. But it relies on no SPAA/ jamming. Countermeasures or ERA. The missiles are so small there’s no dual charge penetrators. And relies the A10 to fly stable for over a minute for the targeting pod to track and designate all 100 targets.
…So the USAF basically tried to invent the Jericho missile?
@@rodolfog2459 I understood that reference.
Hey great vid again i cant keep up lol. Good work fellas killswitch on the check in.🙏
thx
Love these A10 vs history videos
same
This might be a stupid idea, but since a lot of the time was spent on traveling and also outrunning spits, I wonder how well switching to a wing of F/A-18Cs would go. Sure, they don't have that gorgeous GAU-8, and might carry a couple less missiles/bombs, but you can get to/from the battlefield much faster. You also wouldn't have to evade spits at all.
They could operate with impunity but I doubt they could kill 128 in 40 mins?
@@grimreapers yeah that would be difficult. Assuming a wing of 8, each F18 can carry 4 CBU-99s, so thats 32 bombs. If each bomb manages to kill say, 2 tanks, 64 tanks would die in the first run. You would then need to land, resupply, and take off again, and do another run.
Could you do two runs in 40 minutes? I don't know, maybe?
28:28 Pickles is asking when he gets his black cat stenciled on a vert stab.
lol
Thank you and your guys for making great content.
This is better than a movie :-)
Moral of the story, nose down, full throttle.
yip
This game reminds me a lot of the combat simulator "game" we were testing out when I was stationed in Okinawa with my training department. It didn't really have a name but we could do from team size to squad and platoon and higher. Each person would be set at a computer individually and we could have actual individuals acting as aggressors. It had everything from motor transportation. I dont remember being able to use air assets at the time. We could set the system up for all sorts of situations and such. It was pretty cool. I thought that it would be a very good training tool.
another cap quote "the internet is full of bullshit" no truer words ever.
said cap, on the internet