UK F-35B With SPEAR 3 Missiles vs Iranian Missile Boat Swarm (Naval Battle 135) | DCS
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Today we look at a use case for the British F-35 using large quantities of SPEAR 3 anti-shipping missile against an aggressing Iranian Fast Attack Missile Boat Swarm.
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4:00 Attempt 1 - 1980's Planes & Weapons
17:53 Attempt 2 - F-35B & SPEAR 3
22:40 Attempt 2 (combat)
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Why are the Harriers in peacetime colours ? Also there was the story of the Harrier pilot who go lost in 1982 and had to land on the cargo ship
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Pretty funny. Can you imagine standing on a bouncing boat going 40mph aiming a gun at a Maverick missile? You couldn't hit a C130, forget even seeing a tiny Maverick flying straight at you.
Yup.
Cap: we can't afford to lose time, start, start start. Also Cap: oh, everyone has already started. 😂 I love the way your doing your thing Cap.
Having served on HMS Illustrious I love it when you feature the invincible class carrier (through deck cruiser was its real name)
@@franki7 because it was the size of a cruiser?🤔
@@erikerice9068No, it was easier for the Royal Navy to justify the cost of the carriers if they called them cruisers instead of carriers as the large conventional CVA carriers of the 60’s got cancelled on cost grounds
@@tomsoki5738
Royal Navy: We need a billion pounds to build an aircraft carrier.
Parliament: Absolutely not. We can't afford an aircraft carrier. Get out of here.
Royal Navy: Well, how just about a cruiser, then?
Parliament: That's fine. We can fund cruisers. Cruisers are cheap. How much will it cost?
Royal Navy: A billion pounds.
Parliament: Here you go. (hands navy giant cartoon bag of money)
Meanwhile, in America:
Congress: The Soviets have way more cruisers than we do.
US Navy: How about we just start calling our cruiser sized destroyer leaders "cruisers"?
Congress: Yay! We have more cruisers!
Reeding this i really hate burorcy…
Sry for the poor english
@1.25 Manpad also lethal to the guys standing behind the launcher :D
oof
i know that it is not in game but i think wildcat with 20 martlet missiles each would be the weapon of choice for this type of attack as a martlet is only about 30k and 20 can be carried by 1 helicopter
Martlet isn't a fire & forget missile, it has to be guided manually. For this scale of attack that would be too slow.
@@Dr.D00pthey are 40 nm miles away would be plenty of time at 70 knotts that distance would take about 30 mins to travel and the martlet has a speed of mach 1.5 so just seconds for each engagement
Voice is sounding healthy, cap. Keep strong.
Love your videos and your professionalism with each other makes them so much more fun.
🐍 Fun Fact: sea snakes have extremely small fangs and are considered harmless unless you pick one up. The last fatality was years ago -
a fishing trawler crew member separating by-catch from a net.
I can see the idea here about the SPEAR 3. I read somwhere that these missiles are so small and if launched in swarms, it is very hard to detect and track them, and you are right, these are designed to destroy small targets/disable large ships.. A very interesting but a smart way to deal with ships/boats... and very cheap too... + Royal Navy are considering to make them compatible with the VLS on the Type 45/Type 26/Type 31/Type 32.(Quad packed in each VLS).
They could do something like Rapid Dragon with them.
Brussel sprouts cooked in butter and olive oil with garlic and onion…fried up crispy on the outside and tender inside…it doesn’t get any better than that!
Medium rare rib eye with chunky chips has entered the chat.
Why would you do butter /and/ olive oil. They’re doing the same thing
Butter for flavor, plus a veg oil for a higher smoke point
@@lonewolfszc Butter and olive oil both have a smoke point around 350* and adding them together doesn’t increase that.
Love these old vs new comparison videos :)
Brussels Sprouts cooked in a cast iron pan with bacon and maple syrup. Mmmmm…
Yuck!
21:37 to respond to your question, for the moment no others country have a similare weapons, but MBDA France is currently on the end of developpement of the SmartGlider and SmartCruiser, it's similiar in his function and will also feature AI and inteligence, the difference is that he could hit both ground and naval target if im not mistaken, during an interview, a guy from MBDA said that the SmartCruiser (the difference between the smartcruiser and smartglider is that the smartcruiser is propelled) have "multiple hundred km of range", the rafale could carry 18 of them (3 adaptator with 6 missiles each) (sorry for my bad english)
Great video as always! Request: can you please fly the F-35A more and give the F-35 its proper maneuverability? It should be capable of Post Stall Maneuvering (PSM).
You could always program them for the electronic emissions of the ships as well.
Have seen renderings of spear 3 on a typhoon (can carry a lot of these). As Germany just adapted brimstone3, it may be attractive to add spear3, too
You should do three 1990s US carrier groups vs. one 2020s Chinese carrier group.
As a point of reference, the HEP round on the American M68 105MM cannon has a payload of 8lb of C 4. if the speedboat took 10lb warhead it would be splinters. Also as a reference the 81MM mortar used by the US in the 1980's weighed 11lb....
wouldn' the escort vessels helicopters use such missiles against these type of targets as well?
Yo Cap! I'd love to see A-10C's, MB-339 Aermacchi's, Super Tucano's, OV-10's, and Pucara's using APKWS VS Boghammar Swarm and Drone Swarm at the same time plus guns/cannons are allowed!👍
Btw w.e happened to The UH-60?? I'd love to see if you guys could get The UH-1H and UH-60 plus AH-64 all using APKWS in a Vid!
I'm surprised we don't have some kind of smart stand off weapon for boat swarms. something like a CBU-105 SFW, but for boats.
actually, can you imagine the effect of a 105 on a warship? 4 submunitions targeting a destroyer, and launching 40 copper bolts at it, superheating the internals of the ship and causing secondary explosions?
not that it would ever work, since a bomber wouldn't be able to get close enough without being blown out of the sky, but still.
It seems to be a general rule that any anti-Western weapon system is wildly over-modeled in DCS. Iranian weapon systems in particular are very crude and barely functional. The outrageously effective machine guns and infinite MANPADs on these boats are a prime example.
we need a FRS1 SeaHarrier and Gr3 for the South Atlantic map
And this is why the RN are equipping drones and fricking laser beams to its boats
Cap, I'd love to see if you could tell your Spear 3's to cruise at high altitude. Since their job is to be shot at anyway, they don't need to hide under the horizon, and they could potentially cruise much further and at higher speed if they ran at 20 or 30k. Perhaps their range could match the Spear 5s and make them much more effective. For instance, the ED harpoons are supersonic and 100mi+ if they fly at 30k.
I think so.
There used to be a Sea Dart as gate guard outside a base in Gosport.
RNAD Frater on Fareham Road if my memory serves correctly
@@jimbo546 correct. I used to live there. Loved the Wessex helicopter outside Fleetlands
The bots being more annoying than dcs ai
Why haven't they built a drone that carries small missiles like this, and piggy-backs on the long range planes, then gets launched and finds an allied fighter. Why would it matter where the missile got launched from, the fighter could just designate the targets and tell the drone to launch.
The GBU-53/B StormBreaker might be able to do similarly.
You can also have 8 of them like the spear 3 per f35
Since it's Harrier season, I wonder how the Ukrainians could hypothetically use the Harrier (GR7 or AV8B) in Ukraine? Probably hit and run frontline strikes. Or to counter Russian armored thrusts?
Nope. US already has this with GBU-53/B StormBreaker (SDB II). Operational since 2020. In fact, Raytheon submitted SDB II for UK's Spear 3 requirement but instead MBDA's offer was selected.
Spear 3 has twice the range and is networked for coordinated attacks it also has a jamming “wild weasel” version and being propelled can be launched and approach at sea level it’s only disadvantage is a smaller warhead. But the two systems would work very well together in a coordinated attack from high and low levels (which is probably intended)
@@kevinhunkin6364 US also have a EW decoy missile with ADM-160 MALD. And a jamming version with MALD-J.
@@johnsilver9338 that’s a separate system the spear 3 system only replaces the missile warhead and is designed to work with spear 3 and 5
@@kevinhunkin6364 It has more range hence it can work with other longer range anti-ship missiles like Tomahawk, LRASM, JSM/NSM, and maybe also MAKO and SiAW in the future.
Does DCS let you set your bombs to air burst? If you could I think a lot of those near misses would be hits.
Don't think so.
Laser guided hydra rockets would be good in this role. And cheaper
Look up the Beartrap (hauldown device
Used this when I was in the Navy in the 90's. I would think it's standard across all Navys by this point?
I would like to See the NEW RCN “River Class Destroyers”, It’s Canada Day, eh! predators, P8’s and p3’s.
Or whither. RCAF CF18 OR CF35 fighters. (Future fight)
Canadian Army Veteran
Slowly progressing to micro missiles from Macross anime
I was thinking this the other day, you, someone must be building small cheap anti-drone missiles, you can build an armature-guided rocket with a solid motor and Arduino guidance for about $100 that will burn for about 6 seconds and go 1.5km and be fairly small. If we can get a bit of cleaver AI tech in them you could have a few hundred packed away in a box on any vehicle to counter drones.
@@DavidBennell guided bottle rockets
@@DavidBennell They've just developed a complete control system on a single PCB for drones (as opposed to individual PCB's for different functions like communication, navigation and flight) and its the size of a Post-It-Note.
Which plane was the cat flying?
Brussel sprouts roasted with garlic and butter
sounds nice
Spear-3 Range is 80 miles.
HELLO THERE CAP
hello
Hey Cap I had a thought, if you lowered the skill level of the Boghammers, would it remove the ability of them being able to shoot down missiles with machine guns?
They are already on lowest skill.
@@grimreapers ah yes, dcs ai engine at its finest then 😑
What you're seeing is advanced warfare
I wonder if you can lase a target coated in one of the new blacker than black paints like Vanta Black?
Good question, tho anything coated in it will cause massive heat problems and a huge huge huge ir signature
@@Utubesuperstar fine point!
Vantablack would be destroyed in most situations you'd want to use it. The network of carbon nanotubes is just way too fragile for anything that moves around.
CAP: what book are you reading? I read one years ago from Max Hastings which was good, but your sounds much more detailed. Great mission. One quick question: is the U.S. not using old SAMs in a similar way to the Spears... even so, the Spear is a great idea.
Book is called "SCRAM!"
Jesus christ how many bots
Thanks for doing a Harrier f35 comparison
Harriers are old, slow, and obsolete.
@@pike100 no shit
@ivorharden So why would you want a comparison of an obsolete Harrier to a state of the art 5th generation fighter??? The verdict was obvious from the beginning. The "competition" was lopsided and unfair to the Harrier.
It was also a waste of time IMO. I only watched this video because I am a big fan of Cap and the Grim Reapers.
@pike100 just to show the fellow viewers the difference. Its like on Top Gear and Clarkson would show the difference with a predecessor and successor or a fast car against a really fast car e.g Murcielago Lp640 vs Golf gti .
@@ivorharden OK, I get it now.
GR-3 the one with the long nose? Yes no?
Gr3 had a narrow nose and lower cockpit etc. The Sea Harrier introduced the pointier nose with raised cockpit and canopy. This was then carried over to the Harrier II.
AIM-9X can also be used against surface targets. Is this capability available in DCS? I wonder if ASRAAM will ever get a similar capability.
Don't think so.
Boat swarms and Japanese attack force are your worst enemy.
Nobody crashed a Harrier on take-off? That isn't true to GR ethics..........
I think the US should be looking at such a concept
Mako is quite similar but more effective tho I do agree a mass fired swarm weapon would be good. Tho malds are arguably similar in role minus the warhead, I’d say malds are more effective for draining sams so you can send in lrasm, mako, aargm er etc for the kill.
@@Utubesuperstar I thought also about intercepting many targets
@@patricktho6546 for small stuff that this would be effective the guided hydras are a far better weapon. Cheaper u can carry more more capacity
They already do with GBU-53/B StormBreaker (SDB II). Operational too since 2020. In fact, Raytheon submitted SDB II for UK's Spear 3 requirement but instead MBDA's offer was selected.
Can the bombs be set for an airburst of 50 ft or so?
Super cap after what the Houthis did in the red sea can you make a simulation of a big powerful attack well coordinated with a mixture of cruise missiles ballistic missiles and kamikaze UAV's + lot of USV's
So the plan looks like:
First stage - lunch the UAV'S and USV's and some torpedoes boats
Second stage - the torpedoes boats lunch there torpedoes in the half way at the same time anti ship cruise missiles lunch
Last stage - lunch the anti ship ballistic missiles
Make sure to make good speed and time calculations to make sure that all munitions reach their target at the same time and (voilà)
So this plan could happen only after they shot down of any western surveillance UAV'S (MQ9)
Cap. This is James Lindeman Speaking. Callsign Miller 1-4 "Slimjim" I recently just got the Flaming cliffs 3 pack and I already have been aquatinted with the Mig-29S and the SU-27 and installed a tracking system for my webcam to use the helmet guided missile locking system in both jets. I Saw another youtuber by the name of @Enigma and he helped me learn how to fly both listed jets above, but when trying to learn how to fly the F-15C, your tutorials seem very confusing. not to mention I'm playing with a Thrust Master T16000M FCS Hotas system without the rudder pedals, so the key binds of your flight sim rig are very different than mine. I was wondering if you could collaborate with this youtuber to help make a small, quick beginners guide to the Flaming Cliffs 3 F-15C Module so that new or relatively new players (Like me,) Can understand and learn to operate that aircraft with little to no difficulty. just something for you to ponder over later... Miller 1-4, out.
Hey Cap I love sardines!
Is there a way in real life to fuze the bombs so that they airburst over the boats instead of just sploshing into the water? Even setting them to detonate as soon as they hit water seems like that might damage the boats from the shockwave. (I assume it's not possible in DCS or they would've thought of it.)
Yes you can fuze them to detonate between 10-35 feet (1.5m to 10.7m) though the waves may interfere with the radar altimeters estimation of altitude.
Not in game.
Spear 3 best anti swarm?
Concentrate what's that? 🤔
Could you use redeye cluster munitions for this mission?
Rockeye. Redeye was a Manpad.
Would you do a non modded battle against Growling Sidewinder and Longshot, say 5v5
Can Spear 3's be mounted on naval helos?
TF is with the sex bots in the comments, good vid tho
Here's an idea; use modernized Iowa Class Battleship in this situation to defend the Carrier Battlegroup like in the big one you did a while back and defending against IR Navy, Boghammers, Drone Swarms and ASM batteries, maybe enemy air assets as well.
Nothing like a Battleship to force the Straight of Hormuz...
Battleships are obsolete. 😢
how come you never fly in the f35 cap?
Can't use the Air to Ground weapons as human pilot so not a lot of use flying it.
@@grimreapers noted
I think the cat's back!! Or the Harrier has a whining engine..
Cap, a while back, you did a series of challenges where you looked at which generation of aircraft could either destroy/escort certain air and ground platforms. With the various updates in DCS and new aircraft, would it be worth rerunning these scenarios?
First
I watch these videos all the time but that long... speech(?) explaining how missiles work (yet again) made me stop this one.
Isn't the RN's air arm called the Fleet Air Arm, FAA? I don't know if that still exists, as pilots are seconded from the RAF, maybe? Modern weapons v houthis...bam!
The FAA still very much exists. And RN pilots are still a thing. Although we have a mix of FAA and RAF pilots in the F-35s since they are jointly operated by the RN and RAF
@@joshuasenior4370 good to hear since, what a history has the FAA!