What Happens To An Engine Without Oil?

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    in this video we’re going to be discussing what happens when an engine has no oil. As a demonstration, we’ll be viewing an engine with and without oil running. This is the exact same engine on the left and the right, on the left with oil, and on the right without. Both engines will start at the exact same time, but the video on the right was filmed 24 hours after the video on the left, allowing for the engine to completely cool. This is a 212 cc air-cooled single-cylinder Harbor Freight engine.
    There are five points we’re monitoring on each engine. Point one is the crankcase, below the level at which oil will rest. Point two is the top of the crankcase, where there obviously won’t be any oil resting near. Point three is the air-cooled cylinder bore. Point four is the exhaust pipe exiting the cylinder before entering the muffler, and point 5 is the valve cover. This is a pushrod style valve train with overhead valves.
    Opening the crankcase reveals the permanent damage which occurred. First of all, look at the small amount of oil that didn’t quite make it out while draining. It’s quite dark, and this is after a 15 minute run with oil, and 15 minutes without, in a brand new engine. The oil which remained in the drained engine is clearly quite dirty, and actually it has quite a bit of metal content in it, as you can see reflecting as I move around the towel.
    Examining further, I removed the connecting rod cap from the crankshaft. This is the bearing the crank rotates on. You can see the scored, less reflective surface of the cap. Indeed, you can see the scratches on the crankshaft as well. I would expect to see similar issues with the camshaft and cylinder bore as well.
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  • @EngineeringExplained
    @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +508

    *Engine for sale, like new, only used twice, serious inquiries only!*
    I kid, I kid! As a serious tip though, be sure to occasionally check your oil level, older cars tend to burn more oil and it's a headache that can be easily avoided by checking your dipstick while your car fills up with gas. If you're into Instagram, consider following: instagram.com/engineeringexplained/. For product links, check the video description, like this $55K thermal camera haha - amzn.to/2mgV8XS. Shout out to FLIR for letting me borrow the camera!

    • @Xxthief411xx
      @Xxthief411xx Před 7 lety +21

      Engineering Explained I can imagine the engine without oil is actually hotter but because the readings are coming from the surface of the engine, the lack of oil only allows convection rather than convection and conduction.

    • @miken87p
      @miken87p Před 7 lety +2

      I think the engine is hotter with oil because the oil carries more heat and keeps everything stable. WIth no oil, you have just air and that cools faster than oil. Air just doesnt provide enough cooling or and barrier in tight tolerances

    • @FishMan72727
      @FishMan72727 Před 7 lety +7

      I have a guess why this may have turned out this way. The engine is new. A new engine is going to have perfectly smooth parts and will therefore have minimal friction. As wear would increase over time, so would the friction. Another thought I had is that one of the main duties of oil is to be the weak point, and therefore break down instead of the metal pieces. when you combine these thoughts together you realize how the oil really helps; the oil prevents wear by sacrificing itself.
      Adding this thinking to engineering principles, you realize surface temperature at equilibrium is about heat added to the system. The combustion adds much more heat than any friction, especially in this system, which brings me to the next point. You used an engine with no load being put on it whatsoever and no idle speed variation. Having some sort of drive train would increase the heat from friction and the heat from combustion, due to the added fuel consumption of overcoming the external forces. The added load would also increase wear which would increase frictional heat more as the surfaces wear even more.
      Overall, the biggest problem with the test was having a new engine with no load put on the engine. I good way to show this in another test would be to take a lawn mower, make sure it has oil, check the internals with a bore scope, mow a lawn, check again, remove the oil, mow a lawn for the same period of time, check again and compare. I say lawn mower because it is relatively cheap and it would do the job of adding resistance, especially if your grass is tall.

    • @Xxthief411xx
      @Xxthief411xx Před 7 lety +2

      FishMan72727 Eh, the system equilibrium temperature is equally a function of heat loss and heat added. Idle speed was a big factor in this test but load would not have mattered versus just RPM.

    • @dezertraider
      @dezertraider Před 7 lety

      Thank You.Great videos! Very cool...TY73s

  • @waybachwin1747
    @waybachwin1747 Před 7 lety +2022

    What happens to oil without an engine?

    • @Kevin-19986
      @Kevin-19986 Před 5 lety +106

      It would stay in the bottle or would flow away if ye poured it out, i guess.

    • @koopiaceh6754
      @koopiaceh6754 Před 5 lety +285

      It would start a war..... And america always in it

    • @carsonp.7009
      @carsonp.7009 Před 5 lety +30

      It would turn back into dead dino bods

    • @iloilobyaheko1872
      @iloilobyaheko1872 Před 5 lety +9

      One and oily

    • @HighStar9821
      @HighStar9821 Před 5 lety +18

      it'll start being sentient by questioning the purpose of its existence

  • @kingkevin267
    @kingkevin267 Před 7 lety +383

    I work at a Nissan dealer ship, this person had their car towed in, 2016 rogue 26k miles on it. Driving down the road, heard a loud banging sound, car cut off, wont restart, opened the hood there was oil every where, had it towed to us. When was your last oil change. Never had one done. At 26k miles, with out a single oil change, the crank bearing (the one a showed in this video) seized, with the engine at higher rpms at the time, two connecting rods (the rod that connects the piston to that bearing) snapped off, and blew through the side of the engine block, leaving big holes. Probably the funniest part was when we went to remove the foam insulator under the hood because it was covered in oil, a whole bunch of metal pieces fell out :). This was not covered under warranty, for parts and labor you were looking at about $18k (almost as much as the car was worth), the owner had the car was towed away (probably to junk yard, but I'm not sure on that), and is now probably making payments on a car that they no longer have. Moral of the story CHANGE YOUR F%$KING OIL PEOPLE.

    • @bighoss7437
      @bighoss7437 Před 6 lety +38

      Kevin Weil i use synthetic so I don't have to change the oil for the life time of the vehicle

    • @teravolt6113
      @teravolt6113 Před 6 lety +11

      +Big Hoss I use my car for short distance trips so i'll reach the distance reported on the service booklet in something like 10 years and that's when i'll change the oil.

    • @bighoss7437
      @bighoss7437 Před 6 lety

      shadowninja81500 2 - 3 years then sell it, I don't drive more the 3000km a year and as far as I know oil doesn't go stale

    • @Jbiglin
      @Jbiglin Před 5 lety +50

      Kevin Weil - One day I noticed my sister’s Celica GT on the side of the highway and I stopped to see what was wrong. The engine quit and was smoking a bit. Checked the oil to find the dipstick bone-dry. I asked her when she had the oil changed last and she couldn’t remember. Asked her when she last checked the oil. The answer was “The Oil light never came on”. Engine was ruined. A friends brother was a mechanic at a Toyota dealership. He somehow got it covered under warranty. Cost her a case of beer for him and the service manager. Two years later, the same freakin thing happened. I was so pissed at her.

    • @officialspaceman1190
      @officialspaceman1190 Před 5 lety +11

      Kevin Weil I also work at Nissan and we had a 17 Pathfinder come in with 24k miles for an oil change, pulled the plug off and nothing was coming out lol so we drop the pan and there was no oil only pure sludge so thick that the pickup tube left an indentation in the sludge. This one got lucky the motor didnt blow lol

  • @BisforBuild
    @BisforBuild Před 7 lety +610

    brb draining oil from my rides

  • @bharrisnicholas
    @bharrisnicholas Před 7 lety +298

    Oil is for lubrication obviously more than it is for cooling.

    • @Tr33Tr331
      @Tr33Tr331 Před 6 lety

      Brian Harris cooling systems

    • @4774sammyg
      @4774sammyg Před 6 lety +11

      Brian Harris that's what she said

    • @voltag3man
      @voltag3man Před 5 lety +79

      Friction makes heat
      Oil helps take away friction...

    • @timer42s_83
      @timer42s_83 Před 5 lety +1

      Plus it’s not going to stay cold, it would obviously warm as it travels through the parts that need lubrication, that’s why the temp doesn’t look to be cooler.

    • @MrSidney9
      @MrSidney9 Před 5 lety

      @@4774sammyg lol

  • @ShopEightyFive
    @ShopEightyFive Před 7 lety +1074

    You should repeat the test but with the engine under load. Intuition says there would be more carnage.

    • @aygwm
      @aygwm Před 7 lety +12

      Good idea! A simple fluid resistance setup would be a good test, e.g. one on a bicycle trainer.

    • @dimmacommunication
      @dimmacommunication Před 7 lety

      Bruce Harding It's still a good test

    • @builder1113
      @builder1113 Před 7 lety +7

      yeah, that would definitely help! I pretty much blew up a rototiller engine like this! It worked fine for about the first 5 minutes then it slowed down and and I noticed smoke coming out of the exhaust... yep, big problem...

    • @Thraim.
      @Thraim. Před 7 lety +5

      That would help to destroy the engine faster but I doubt that the temperatures on the outside would be much higher.

    • @TerribleEngineer
      @TerribleEngineer Před 7 lety +12

      There would be a significant difference, especially on the cylinder bore. The oil would reduce the friction and increase the heat transfer to the cylinder bore. The crank would also get worn to all hell

  • @davidbrewer8309
    @davidbrewer8309 Před 7 lety +14

    One thing you forgot to take note off is even though you drained the oil from the engine to do your second test without oil, all the engine parts would theoretically all be lubricated.
    Try running a completely dry engine with no oil and I bet your results would be drastically different

  • @onilovni1234
    @onilovni1234 Před 7 lety +7

    The level of honesty in this video is through the roof, love it!

  • @ltr4300
    @ltr4300 Před 7 lety +10

    The oil not only acts as a heat sink, as you mentioned, but also as an internal medium to not only cool hot surfaces, but to warm cold ones...a thermal balance goes a long ways towards preventing material stress and abrasion at sealing points (gaskets, valve seals, etc)...running with no oil, the hottest spots are probably going to be the piston's crown, the cylinder head's combustion chamber (to a lesser degree), and the exhaust valve stem/face. If oil is present, these parts will give up their excess heat and spread it to cool spots, like the finned cylinder block and intake side of the cylinder head, but without oil you are going to notice slightly cooler external temps as no heat is being transferred, but critical internal parts (particularly the piston) are building heat and have no way to transfer it away aside from direct skirt/ring contact with the cylinder wall. Eventually, the piston will fail from overheating, either by cracking or swelling enough to seize in bore, and the excess heat from combustion and friction trying to leave the only way it can, by direct contact of the rings and skirt to the cylinder wall, will lead to very rapid wear. Some of those small engines have a cast cylinder liner that isn't particularly tough, and the hardened rings will wear it away faster than the piston can seize in it. Then, with even less direct contact, the piston is going to have to melt down or crack. But the compression may get too low to keep running before that happens, all depends on the quality of the build. The bottom ends on these use ball bearings, which can roll along pretty happily with just an oil film for a long time. On a car engine, with hydrostatic bearings requiring oil pressure to keep metal off metal, no oil pressure is an almost instant disaster...but really not that big a deal for these little ones, at least in that respect.

  • @mrburgermaster
    @mrburgermaster Před 7 lety +26

    The residual oil on the contact surfaces held up really well and probably prevented much more serious wear and heat.

  • @tehguitarque
    @tehguitarque Před 7 lety +211

    That "voids warranty" warning is pretty ironic here.

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore Před 7 lety +22

    At 4:24 you can see the metal got very hot due to friction by the discoloration of the metal.

    • @Bob_Lob_Law
      @Bob_Lob_Law Před 3 lety

      Nice, messing up the heat treatment.

  • @myherpesitch7763
    @myherpesitch7763 Před 7 lety +1

    i like how this video was still posted in all of its honesty even though there was less than expected result.
    Scientific journals for example are now publishing "research" that have been tweeked to show a more conclusive result. Journals don't want to publish "boring" inconclusive findings.
    Hats off to this channel.

  • @jonathanvasquez283
    @jonathanvasquez283 Před 7 lety +851

    what happens if you don't change the oil at all? Not saying I don't change my oil.. but I'm curious

    • @renzo1382
      @renzo1382 Před 7 lety +267

      Im from Argentina, so my english isent so good.
      If you do that, eventually the oil loses propertis, and dont lubricated so well

    • @dansid
      @dansid Před 7 lety +164

      Jonny V in becomes chocolate

    • @iamezza
      @iamezza Před 7 lety +328

      It gradually turns into thick sludge that doesn't flow at all. Eventually after enough miles it's like running without any oil and the engine dies.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před 7 lety +91

      Renzo Asdasd Your English is actually quite good.

    • @jonathanvasquez283
      @jonathanvasquez283 Před 7 lety +8

      iamezza other than it pretty much ruining the engine I didn't know it can kill it.. thank you

  • @Chitownboy1023
    @Chitownboy1023 Před 7 lety +631

    Bet he returned it

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +168

      I'm not like that!

    • @That_NJ_guy
      @That_NJ_guy Před 7 lety +14

      Engineering Explained make a go kart with it. lol.

    • @duramax78
      @duramax78 Před 7 lety +8

      All princess auto and hf stuff is returns....lol

    • @philtripe
      @philtripe Před 7 lety +9

      the engine is fine...just broken in...if you put oil in it that motor will last a long time

    • @AJOSHUATREE
      @AJOSHUATREE Před 7 lety +4

      I would lol

  • @LMJee
    @LMJee Před 7 lety +37

    High performance premium oil from the grocery store...

  • @Random12231
    @Random12231 Před 7 lety +1

    What is really interesting is at 4:21 you can see significant bluing on the crank on either side of where the connecting rod and bearing would sit. That would seem to indicate the temperatures were actually incredibly high from the bearing running dry. Neat to see how that wasn't reflected from the external view. As always, love the content, keep up the great work.

  • @SuperWatson63
    @SuperWatson63 Před 7 lety +61

    I prefer canola oil in my engine its healthier

    • @ProFow
      @ProFow Před 5 lety +2

      Extra Virgin Olive Oil is the way to go

    • @ashxxiv
      @ashxxiv Před 5 lety +2

      I prefer grape seed oil or coconut oil.
      healthy oil healthy car! 🤗

    • @togimathews8323
      @togimathews8323 Před 5 lety

      I thought we all did..

    • @soulassassin0g
      @soulassassin0g Před 4 lety

      Sunflower oil is the way to go.

  • @DrummerBoii1411
    @DrummerBoii1411 Před 7 lety +251

    My mechanic forgot to change the oil in my car in the last service it had 2 years ago. The oil was already about 2 years old. So 4 years running on terrible oil that was less than 3 litres when 4 litres I'm supposed to have. The oil filter was already broken. I'm surprised my engine survived. As soon as my new mechanic drained the oil, cleaned the pan and new filter my car burst into a new life within an hour. It felt more powerful. So oil is really important guys. You might be thinking why so long after servicing. Well the car is a second car that's not used as often. So didn't feel the need to.

    • @charlesvan13
      @charlesvan13 Před 7 lety +13

      You risk wrecking your engine running it low on oil.
      Might as well put a few quarts in it rather than needing a $3000 engine overhaul.

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx Před 7 lety +74

      You're inhuman to make such a loyal engine suffer like that, shame on you

    • @ALDORAFFUL
      @ALDORAFFUL Před 7 lety +5

      dosmastrify in my opinion, when the oul is very dirty and thik, the oil filter wont let it pass because it gets clogged overtime, then the pressure of the oil triyng to flow will eventually break the filtering material inside the oil filter. Maybe thats why he said it was broken.

    • @theninja001
      @theninja001 Před 7 lety +72

      What do you mean, "my mechanic"? It doesn't take a mechanic to change oil, it's your fault, no one else's that you ran for 4 years on the same oil lol

    • @DrummerBoii1411
      @DrummerBoii1411 Před 7 lety +4

      theninja001 Lol, the car is rarely used, maybe it gets 1500miles a year on it.. so that's why I don't get it serviced every year so I do it every 2. I didn't know the oil wasn't changed until my new mechanic told me it most likely wasn't changed. It was also low on less than 3 litres of oil when it should be 4 litres that's probably down to leakages over the years. But I'm taking care of it more now, because I want the car to go on forever. And the reason I didn't change the oil myself is because I usually go the mechanic to get the whole lot done In 1 go, brakes, engine etc.

  • @bighueso2428
    @bighueso2428 Před 7 lety +43

    Hi Engineering Explained. I have a 2015 Acura TLX V6. If you haven't already heard, this car comes equipped with a 9 speed ZF DCT that's been heavily criticized as being very jerky in shifting gears. Honda has been quick to swap out the 9 speed ZF DCTs for the 8 speed DCT. I've read some articles and forums stating the jerkiness has something to do with the "dog" clutch gears. I'm genuinely interested to know why these transmissions came out badly designed. Would you make a video explaining this? I hope my fellow youtubers like this comment to get his attention. Thank you all.

    • @Christian4life86
      @Christian4life86 Před 6 lety +1

      Try having a 2013 Ford Focus SE, talk about bad transmission issues 😣

    • @tuckerhoefer254
      @tuckerhoefer254 Před 6 lety

      Modern car transmissions are very weak

    • @ibrarsadaat6776
      @ibrarsadaat6776 Před 5 lety +2

      Get a manual. Manual transmissions have been perfected compared to auto

    • @Treyk901
      @Treyk901 Před 5 lety

      I heard that some tuning out a bandaid on that transmission.. they pretty much disabled 1st gear as the fix. I’d be upset . I do love the 10 speed in my F-150 though!

  • @FakeItalianoII
    @FakeItalianoII Před 7 lety +1

    Always educational, always entertaining !
    Thanks, Jason !
    Nice job !!

  • @legoNerd01245
    @legoNerd01245 Před 7 lety +275

    You should do it again, but with the side of the crankcase off. We could see the temps of each components.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +54

      I like that idea!

    • @themattenthehat
      @themattenthehat Před 7 lety +18

      I'm not sure I'd be comfortable near a running engine with an open crankcase...

    • @LolasaurusYT
      @LolasaurusYT Před 7 lety +15

      Safety Squints and earpluggers mean you?

    • @BoatChannel
      @BoatChannel Před 7 lety +7

      you couldn't cuz the camshaft will come out

    • @Tj1056
      @Tj1056 Před 7 lety +1

      lol Boat Channel don't you mean the crankshaft? But either way both of them would stay in place as they are bolted down by the cam and crank caps.

  • @TheMisterQuestion
    @TheMisterQuestion Před 7 lety +80

    Well, you were measuring temperature on the engine casing. With oil temperature can be transfer from moving parts to engine casing. Without oil parts inside (like gears) are getting hot, but air around does not trasfer the heat to camera. So this is why engine without oil is colder (but it really isnt).

    • @Trident_Euclid
      @Trident_Euclid Před 7 lety +2

      M_Kil Exactly

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +3

      Sure, but no (or minimal) lubrication between the piston/rings and the cylinder wall should result in more heat, which passes directly to the fins.

    • @philtripe
      @philtripe Před 7 lety +3

      no...it has cooling fins to keep cool...its doesnt even have an oil cooler and even if it did thats not what an oil cooler is for...its to keep the engine oil at optimal temperature which is about 212 degrees F ... oil is for wear protection not engine cooling

    • @counterfit5
      @counterfit5 Před 7 lety

      phil tripe The one exception to your statement is an engine with oil squirters for the bottom of the pistons. Ferrari and Mahle are even using a 3D printed part on the underside of their pistons in F1 this year, to better control the piston temps.

    • @TheMisterQuestion
      @TheMisterQuestion Před 7 lety +2

      Normally in engine with oil inside just one of the 3 rings is lubricated, others are not, and they purpose beside keeping pressure is to transfer heat to the fins. So your analogy is not exactly correct, because with or without oil they are working in the same condition.
      Another thing that occured to me is, you test engine with oil, drained it, and then run without oil. Well, oil is dense, and you cannot drain engine completly. Very thin layer of oil remain on the insides of the engine. For lubricated parts the thinner, the better. Layer thick on several atoms works the best, and you need more time than 15 minutes to wipe that layer.
      The test would be more reasonable if you cleaned remaining oil with special thinner. It would result in metal on metal action, and fast destruction of engine.

  • @wheelmanjh4067
    @wheelmanjh4067 Před 7 lety +1

    Nice Vid, I always wondered what happened to engines without oil. It's amazing how long they can run without oil till bad things begin to happen.

  • @CesarScur
    @CesarScur Před 7 lety +30

    Oil performs under LOAD. You are not running your motors under load.

  • @CobaltSkies
    @CobaltSkies Před 7 lety +358

    What happens if you use cooking oil to cool an engine? Would a sunflower seed oil engine work??

    • @tanker9987
      @tanker9987 Před 7 lety +94

      They work for a while however go bad pretty quickly.
      Better than nothing if you lose all your oil on a camping trip and only have cooking oil.

    • @arekb5951
      @arekb5951 Před 7 lety +69

      Jet Star One of car enthusiast channels in my country (Poland) did this using a 1.4 Opel Corsa, the guy was hitting redline frequently for a few hours straight and the engine worked as smooth as it was before. The conclusion was, this kind of oil will work, but it has way shorter lifespan than engine oil (it stops working as a lubricant much faster)

    • @ze_rubenator
      @ze_rubenator Před 7 lety +37

      If you have to escape from the apocalypse and have no other alternative it might work. Just make sure you use cooking oil that can withstand high temperatures, so no olive oil =D

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před 7 lety +19

      It would work great in the fuel tank of an older diesel!

    • @nagarajbhat7869
      @nagarajbhat7869 Před 7 lety +23

      run engine for couple of hours and remove immediately and dip potato slice,,, "instant potato chips"😍😜

  • @josephinring
    @josephinring Před 7 lety +19

    This engine has splash lubrication, the forces in the engine are relatively low and the bearings don't require pressure lubrication. In an engine with pressure lubrication running under load the engine would seize within seconds or minutes, once the oil pressure would drop the bearings would dry out and overheat quickly. It's an interesting video but can't really be compared it to a car engine. If you lost oil pressure while accelerating on the road you would probably end up stranded in a cloud of smoke and possibly with bits of engine rattling around the oil sump.

    • @WarriorTr59
      @WarriorTr59 Před 5 lety

      Aweigh@Sea splash lubrication, you mean wet sump ?

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 Před 4 lety

      This actually happened to me. I was driving down the road when an oil cooler line gave out and blew it all over the road.
      I temporarily repaired the hose, threw a little oil in it, drove it up on a trailer, and took it home to fix the hose correctly.
      The vehicle still runs like it has all or most of its power and everything. It just clacks under load.
      I'm debating whether to put it back on the road until it truly dies but I'd have to replace some brake line first.

    • @EliFleming
      @EliFleming Před 3 lety

      @@dchawk81 did you ever put it back on the road?

    • @dchawk81
      @dchawk81 Před 3 lety +1

      @@EliFleming I ran it for like a month but then a brake line blew out. I had enough by then and scrapped it.

    • @EliFleming
      @EliFleming Před 3 lety +1

      @@dchawk81 thanks for the update. Pretty much toasted mine limping home with a blown cam seal but I might see if it’s got any life left in it.

  • @Mr_Valentin.
    @Mr_Valentin. Před 5 lety +28

    What happens if you put gearbox oil in an engine, because I did it once when I was a mechanic apprentice and no one noticed.

    • @bigpole6715
      @bigpole6715 Před 5 lety +1

      Валентин Valentin 😂

    • @gutzu265
      @gutzu265 Před 5 lety +2

      I'd imagine harsher engine wear, nothing anyone will notice till they drain the sump and get a good wiff😂

  • @detmer87
    @detmer87 Před 7 lety +100

    Premium junk oil hehe

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před 7 lety +5

      Detmer It's probably made by a brand name, just without all the additives. I'd use it in an emergency.

    • @hyperhektor7733
      @hyperhektor7733 Před 7 lety +36

      you could add additives yourself, like strawberry aroma, mustard or lube.

    • @Demonslayer20111
      @Demonslayer20111 Před 7 lety +1

      quite honestly if its api certified its fine. probably grade one or two though, which means conventional with no additives(grade one) or with (grade two)

    • @italiano0810
      @italiano0810 Před 7 lety

      Detmer banana lube?

  • @DrJackalPhD
    @DrJackalPhD Před 7 lety +25

    My 1996 Honda Civic Ex ran without oil for quite a while. The car felt sluggish and slow, but it kept going. One of the pistons had exploded and was making a terrible popcorn sound while idling. The engine blew and had to get a new one.
    But it did run for awhile without oil. To this day, I say Honda makes the best engines.

    • @thephysics9221
      @thephysics9221 Před 7 lety +5

      Jack Al You never checked your cars oil...?

    • @masterofwhorers1827
      @masterofwhorers1827 Před 7 lety

      Or more to the point, it sounds like you kept driving the popcorn motor??? Not all noises are something you should worry about, especially at high mileage, but there are some sounds and actions a car makes that are universal for stop, CEL or not...

    • @Christian4life86
      @Christian4life86 Před 6 lety +1

      Toyota makes equally good motors. 1980 Tacoma's still out there running like a champ

    • @captnnormie8154
      @captnnormie8154 Před 6 lety

      My mother got a Mitsubishi endeavor with 160k back in 2013
      The car always made weird grinding noises but it was really speedy and never once even stalled or had an issue
      I never remember her changing the oil but I never said anything
      This week she came to visit and I was using the car with now over 200k she still never changed one thing on the car besides the battery and I decided to check the oil just out of curiosity and I was surprised to find the stick bone dry and the car wasn’t even knocking she said she never has time to check it and refuses to go to a mechanic because the car never had a problem
      I added some and the car already sounded so much quieter and felt new
      We still drive the car today and I plan to change the oil myself at some point
      She got a montero sport that she doesn’t treat much better but something about these motors just keeps them going
      All i can say is no other car brand has survived her long

  • @911naimplate
    @911naimplate Před 7 lety +2

    Interesting video, thanks for sharing.
    Three additional key points that you might want to make to your viewers are the fact that:
    1) There was some initial lubrication in the engine that was drained and run with no oil and even that small amount of oil provides decent lubrication at low RPM's under no load.
    2) The Second point is that this test was performed at low RPM, would be interesting to see it at half throttle for a few minutes
    3) Lastly, it would be interesting to see the same test at half throttle under full load
    Thanks again for a well produced video.

  • @kennethhuber3658
    @kennethhuber3658 Před 7 lety

    I always learn a lot when I watch your videos. Thank you.

  • @steveregal6321
    @steveregal6321 Před 7 lety +253

    Your first mistake was buying engine oil from a grocery store

    • @Darkcruzer23
      @Darkcruzer23 Před 4 lety +4

      walmart sells mobil 1 does that mean it sucks? lol

  • @SwapnilNimbalkar
    @SwapnilNimbalkar Před 7 lety +14

    Time to change the *Engine Oil*

  • @blackbettyc5
    @blackbettyc5 Před 7 lety +2

    can you do this test with the same oil and then a synthetic oil to see if synthetic keeps the temp lower

  • @fieldcar
    @fieldcar Před 7 lety

    Great video. I love these kind of topics.
    I do have a request. Can you put together a comparison between filters (like purelator pure ones down to fram) and synthetic oil (amsoil down to walmart's supertech synthetic)?

  • @eastsidetactown
    @eastsidetactown Před 7 lety +4

    personally I can understand why it didn't act crazy after only a few minutes running without. for a small amount of time I'd wager the gearing and pistons would still be able to operate before they actually heat up and start grinding more. of course only for a very short period of time. I personally feel like if they both ran for say 6 hours straight, you'd see some extreme differences. then again I'm not an engineer and this is all conjecture feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

  • @matthewkuiash208
    @matthewkuiash208 Před 7 lety +7

    "It goes against my intuition. But then again, if I knew what would happen from the start there'd be no point in doing this". Beautiful. This is precisely how humans went from banging rocks together to landing on the Moon and building supercomputers! Love it!

  • @DeathEgg666
    @DeathEgg666 Před 7 lety

    Well happy you an Car Throttle are mates lol, two of my fave CZcamsrs right there

  • @mcrsit
    @mcrsit Před 7 lety

    Thanks a lot for this one, as that topic is one of the most relevant to us motorheads. I must admit that I'm also really impressed to see how much abuse internal combustion engines can withstand without significant damage! Which makes me as a motorcyclist sleep calmer dreams while hittin' the apex knee deep on the bike... BTW, boy this was a long one 😂

  • @JohnniOstergaard
    @JohnniOstergaard Před 7 lety +25

    Very interesting, I would have guessed that the motor would have failed rather fast.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +4

      I thought the same!

    • @alienmechanic8696
      @alienmechanic8696 Před 7 lety +2

      it's probably the assembly lube, flush the crankcase with gasoline to remove the assembly lube

    • @DjJMOProductions
      @DjJMOProductions Před 7 lety +1

      Engineering Explained seems that maybe that small amount of oil still inside the crankcase had quite a bit of cohesion on the bearing surfaces, and decreased friction just enough for temperatures to stay reasonable. would not have guessed that

    • @pingviiins
      @pingviiins Před 7 lety +1

      My guess it survived that long because there was no actual load on engine. I remember Fifth Gear drained car engine and drove around with no oil and if i remember correct it survived 8 minutes.

    • @TheSnivilous
      @TheSnivilous Před 7 lety

      Could also be loose tolerances decreasing friction since it's a shitty motor. I have a retarded friend who drained his oil and started his truck and had the cam seize to a bearing in less than a minute, and he didn't even drive anywhere (apparently).

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld Před 7 lety +12

    I drained the oil from my ex-wife's car and it is still running fine :(

    • @KellBailey
      @KellBailey Před 3 lety +5

      Her new man got a oil change the next day

  • @hmmm9658
    @hmmm9658 Před 7 lety

    I like how well made this video is

  • @MichaelVLang
    @MichaelVLang Před 7 lety +2

    A better comparison would be between an engine with oil and a separate engine without. It would be interesting to see how the wear patterns. I would have also left it running for hours, and tried to break them in per recommendations. Cool experiment!

  • @whiteknight7889
    @whiteknight7889 Před 5 lety +8

    Connect it to some load, then we will see the actual results.

  • @Rs817t
    @Rs817t Před 7 lety +73

    what if you use coke as oil ?

    • @trentryan27
      @trentryan27 Před 7 lety +24

      the hydraulic press channel guy did that

    • @sdewey4152
      @sdewey4152 Před 7 lety +3

      My guess the sugar causes excessive scarring to the moving parts.

    • @Different-Level
      @Different-Level Před 6 lety +6

      Rick Sanchez i heard heroin works wonders

    • @SLISKI_JOHNNY
      @SLISKI_JOHNNY Před 5 lety +1

      'Murica intensifies

    • @mtnmotoadv
      @mtnmotoadv Před 5 lety +4

      You would need a pretty good source and it would cost a lot to fill an engine with that much cocaine

  • @Fluffy65
    @Fluffy65 Před 7 lety +1

    It still blows my mind that I can buy a brand new (semi decent) small engine for $90! Like the others are saying, having a load on the engine would dramatically change the results. I think powering a water pump or large fan would be a great way to apply load, using a rig you could easily fabricate and store at home. Either way, keep up the great work!

  • @Inventor2022
    @Inventor2022 Před 7 lety

    Look.... I am greatly impressed with your results. You are a mechanical magician!!!!

  • @DeltaSierra426
    @DeltaSierra426 Před 5 lety +3

    No external load on the engine. I bet it'd be just about destroyed with a full load (as in it can just hold peak torque rated RPM at WoT).

  • @TheKintis
    @TheKintis Před 7 lety +5

    What will happened if you use sunflower oil?)

  • @RohitSingh-we8fo
    @RohitSingh-we8fo Před 7 lety

    Brilliant tutorial... !!

  • @xXCHICAGO71Xx
    @xXCHICAGO71Xx Před 7 lety

    nice experiment! it really had me scratching my head until you opened the crank case and saw the metal flakes.

  • @thestigsgermancousin4479
    @thestigsgermancousin4479 Před 7 lety +5

    WOW! the crankshaft must have gotten really hot, look at the tempering colors!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +2

      I believe that may be from the casting process, if you're referring to the coloring at 4:20. Not positive, as I didn't look inside initially, but I have a new crank as well and it too has the coloring.

    • @R1pperB
      @R1pperB Před 7 lety +5

      It is markings of the heat treatment. After casting and rough machining, the bearing surfaces are heat treated for surface hardness and then ground to final dimensions.

  • @kevinqueen6246
    @kevinqueen6246 Před 7 lety +6

    Castrol did those commercials a few years ago where they claimed an engine which had casttol oil drained from it lasted longer than any other brand. Have you done any similar testing and are their claims legit?

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  Před 7 lety +4

      Interesting, never heard about that! It'd be interesting to see, but ultimately not that meaningful. If one works better when it isn't drained, that would be the one you'd want to buy, regardless of how great or poorly it acted once there was barely any left.

  • @ChakibTsouli
    @ChakibTsouli Před 7 lety

    It also depends on the Gas you're using. Some gas types come mixed with lubricating agents, which could keep the temps in check.

  • @LaurentSparksMusic
    @LaurentSparksMusic Před 7 lety

    It would be interesting to record the temperature on the internal gears, from my understanding its the smaller internal metal pieces you want to keep from overheating as they could soften up and deform

  • @igorhenrique303
    @igorhenrique303 Před 5 lety +6

    5 after...FBI : OPEN THE DOOR!

  • @phxtonash
    @phxtonash Před 7 lety +3

    you seem pretty smart but I was totally put off when you held the oil bottle the wrong way there's directions on it for you to pour it correctly so it doesn't gargle but nobody seems to read it it's right on the side of the bottle. actually I think it's a drawing I don't even think you have to know how to read just look at the drawing

    • @phxtonash
      @phxtonash Před 7 lety +1

      Jesse LZ yeah why follow directions directions are for idiots right

  • @judge9438
    @judge9438 Před 7 lety +1

    Hi, what happen the engine if running without oil in 10 seconds? if there is a problem? thank you

  • @scottmanley946
    @scottmanley946 Před 7 lety +1

    Im amazed to see the factory fresh cylinder cross hatching even after 15 minutes idling without oil

  • @metasamsara
    @metasamsara Před 7 lety +6

    This is a four stroke engine right? Could you do the same video with a two stroke engine please?

    • @kingkevin267
      @kingkevin267 Před 7 lety

      no modern day engine requires led in the gas. The led was used to lube the fuel injection system. Seeing as it was 2 stroke, it will not require led.

    • @Hulkehnor
      @Hulkehnor Před 7 lety +2

      +land otter1 your points B and C are the same thing. The higher Octane rating doesn't give the fuel more power it just increases its resistance to burning meaning the compression ratio can be higher and that is what gives more power. It also reduces the likelihood of predetonation for the same reason.

    • @p39483
      @p39483 Před 7 lety

      Too much oil can cause carbon buildup. I had a Solo 210 that got hard to start when the decompression port clogged. This put extra wear and tear on the pull starter and I wound up replacing some of that as a result. Cleaning the port involves removing the head and exhaust and then pushing a pipe cleaner through the port from each side. This is a periodic maintenance item on that engine but running say 25:1 instead of 50:1 would clog it up in only a few hours.

    • @mrcobra7878
      @mrcobra7878 Před 7 lety

      Tjukken33 2stroke doesn't require leaded gas. It will run on unleaded just as good mixed with oil

    • @kingkevin267
      @kingkevin267 Před 7 lety

      ***** no it doesn't the lead was used so simply lube the fuel injectors. Seeing as all 2 strokes are carburated there is no 2 stroke engine in the world that would require lead in the gas. You can not have a fuel injected 2 stoke engine.

  • @muamarkhadafi3346
    @muamarkhadafi3346 Před 7 lety +3

    my motorcycle without oil for 1 years, for the result the engine sound is so noisy

  • @Dawt_Calm
    @Dawt_Calm Před 7 lety +2

    Those 212 Predators are great.

  • @41BeachComber
    @41BeachComber Před 6 lety

    Very interesting test.

  • @raz0229
    @raz0229 Před 5 lety +5

    Why am I here? I've nothing to do with motor mechanics!

  • @mackan98502
    @mackan98502 Před 7 lety +3

    What happens is that the engine get 72 unused clutches

  • @ruudiutsenikov609
    @ruudiutsenikov609 Před 6 lety

    My 125cc 4t dirt bike locked up i had it on load a bit i warmed it up like a minute or 2 tried driving it and it was locked should i worry or not havent taken it apart pls reply

  • @7viewerlogic670
    @7viewerlogic670 Před 7 lety

    Great video!

  • @steamhackman
    @steamhackman Před 7 lety +14

    Of all people to pour oil with the bottle the wrong way

    • @grelgen
      @grelgen Před 7 lety +1

      i was also, appropriately, triggered by this.

  • @LDRep
    @LDRep Před 5 lety +8

    I was waiting for engine to blow up... never happen.. ☹️

  • @ProfecyFiber
    @ProfecyFiber Před 7 lety +1

    What is the effect on the engine when run with load?

  • @panzerwaffen2873
    @panzerwaffen2873 Před 7 lety

    this guy is the best at the time to explain something who can dislike this?

  • @WimsicleStranger
    @WimsicleStranger Před 7 lety +9

    You're an engineering channel but you poured the oil wrong, everyone does it! Flip the bottle over and you won't have air bubbles disrupting the flow!

    • @QWERTY28875
      @QWERTY28875 Před 6 lety

      WimsicleStranger wow so clever

    • @esetek
      @esetek Před 6 lety

      WimsicleStranger look at your face! Look at your face!!

  • @erzio8733
    @erzio8733 Před 5 lety +3

    One problem
    I dont have a Car

  • @oneofmanyparadoxfans5447

    Hey, I disassembled and reassembled that same model of engine for my Auto Tech Final.

  • @mxgryan
    @mxgryan Před 6 lety

    Nice experiment

  • @Samuraicbl
    @Samuraicbl Před 7 lety +3

    The results are right! The oil makes the engine cooler INSIDE, exhaustingthe heat from it, and the thermal camera gets the temperature from the OUTSIDE, soh the engine with more exhaustingheat looks hotter.

  • @zxn_wsnr
    @zxn_wsnr Před 7 lety +19

    please tell me can burnout be done with a front wheel drive car???
    thanks in advance!!

    • @FzudemB
      @FzudemB Před 7 lety +21

      Mohammad Zeeshan Just pull the handbrake and dump the clutch

    • @tanker9987
      @tanker9987 Před 7 lety +5

      Just get cheap tires and make sure you have at least 200 whp.

    • @ShipWreckAndHaloFan
      @ShipWreckAndHaloFan Před 7 lety +9

      You don't need that much, a 50hp econobox can do a burnout, with cheap tires.

    • @Makedeth
      @Makedeth Před 7 lety +10

      gear in reverse, go backwards a bit, clutch in, 1st gear, get revs and dump the clutch while the car is still going backwards, then pull the handbrake up as you are doing the burnout

    • @nathankennedy8704
      @nathankennedy8704 Před 7 lety +8

      I've done a burnout in a big wheel that was front wheel drive, so yes.

  • @jordantoth
    @jordantoth Před 7 lety

    Hey - I really like your videos it's helped me with my knowledge of cars and engines. So I recently switched to AMSOIL and they claim they have third party testing for 40,000 km normal service and approx 23,000km drain intervals for their signature series
    I am curious as to what your thoughts are about this. Should I follow the oil or the manufacturer drain intervals? Also when it comes to oil, for specific products for high milage etc... What's the difference from regular oil or regular synthetic? Are you able to do a video or pm me here with your thoughts?
    Thank You
    -

  • @Zoidberg227
    @Zoidberg227 Před 7 lety +1

    I think - and you point this out - the oil is acting as a heat conductor, which causes the crankcase and cylinder head to run hotter, but allows the internals run cooler. It'd be interesting to see the experiment repeated, with thermocouples embedded in various locations ... which would undoubtedly be hard to do.

  • @fireguy508
    @fireguy508 Před 7 lety

    To add, at 4:21 you notice a lot of "blueing" around the connecting rod journal. A sign of high heat. The oil not only lubricates but also transfers heat away from the engine parts. Interesting video. Thanks for sharing!

  • @MrZakuan94
    @MrZakuan94 Před 7 lety

    very attractive and easy to understand. i have a question about engine oil. there's are many types of engine oil like mineral oil, synthetics oil and many more , can you explain the different about it and how it can be use ? thanks

  • @danieljaymeshansel5086

    Loving the temperature videos!

  • @rakeshlourembam5431
    @rakeshlourembam5431 Před 7 lety

    Useful tips

  • @sakismar
    @sakismar Před 7 lety

    Amazing video! thank you

  • @g0t2bmiirii
    @g0t2bmiirii Před 7 lety

    Hey was wondering if you can make a video on downpipes heat wrapping?? Trying to see what the pros and cons are because I wanna order them

  • @altozdequito5527
    @altozdequito5527 Před 6 lety

    Sir can you make a video on what would happen if one of your injectors (cri diesel engine) fail (i.e. leaking, clogging, etc.,)... Your videos are really educational and entertaining at the same time.

  • @JodBronson
    @JodBronson Před 7 lety

    Cool Video though :D. I learn something new today, THANK YOU !!!

  • @cirilovera7458
    @cirilovera7458 Před 7 lety

    can you go over dual brake calipers I want to upgrade my brake system but Idk if i I should go bigger calipers or dual calipers

  • @retribution3180
    @retribution3180 Před 4 lety

    Amazing video

  • @silentchampionknightrider7733

    Can you do ones on what oil additives and fuel additives actually do to your cylinders?

  • @alvaro7570
    @alvaro7570 Před 7 lety

    so would adding adding a oil intercooler would help an engine?

  • @ABWSKITCHEN
    @ABWSKITCHEN Před 6 lety

    Very interesting video!!!!

  • @Evildaddy911
    @Evildaddy911 Před 7 lety

    question, on every i4 fwd car I've looked at, the exhaust is at the front of the engine and goes underneath the engine, while the intake loops around to the back of the engine. why do they do that? wouldn't it save on plumbing to put the intake in front, as well as allow you to put the engine lower if you don't have to run piping underneath?

  • @TABL3SIX
    @TABL3SIX Před 7 lety

    Can you do a video on annual protection motor oil. Is it worth it and is it safe to use? thanks in advance!!!

  • @knightrider1545
    @knightrider1545 Před 6 lety

    Can I use 10w60 oil in the air cooled lawn mower engine under load high ?

  • @anandsholapurkar8695
    @anandsholapurkar8695 Před 7 lety

    Did u try this testing by putting both engines on load for say 1 HR running?cud the results reverse?

  • @romanator30
    @romanator30 Před 6 lety

    What thermal cameras were used?

  • @jameszarate4136
    @jameszarate4136 Před 7 lety

    what oil would you recommend

  • @HiTechDiver
    @HiTechDiver Před 7 lety

    When I was 18, I took my Dad's Honda 350 twin MC for a short spin; real short, like a half mile. He had drained the oil, and took the key to get some new oil. With no sign of this in progress, I found the (spare) key (go figure) and took off. On his way back with the oil, he saw me pushing his bike back home. I was still unaware what had happened, though he was fully aware. He was very understanding and composed, as always,and we did get it running again...with oil this time.