A NEW Clone Saga?! | Spider-Man: The Clone Conspiracy

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  • Pick up The Clone Conspiracy here: amzn.to/2I55GE5 The Jackal is back and has conquered mortality - now many of Spider-Man's firmest friends and fiercest foes are dead no more! Outmatched by this classic army, does the wall0crawler have a chance? Should he even stand in the way if the Jackal has the key to eternal life? If Spider-Man doesn't have the answers, ask...Doctor Octopus! Shocks reverberate around Spidey's world, as Silk gets drawn into the fray by a Spider-Woman back from the grave! Kaine faces Carrion! And a reborn Prowler works for the Jackal - but what role does the resurrected Madame Web play? And who's behind the Jackal's mask? All this plus...Gwen Stacy! It's the most death-defying Spider-Event of all time! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #spiderman
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Komentáře • 385

  • @starvingmartian3037
    @starvingmartian3037 Před 6 lety +167

    For those of you still wondering how Ben Reilly came back to life- Superboy Prime punched reality.

    • @Mike_Dubo
      @Mike_Dubo Před 2 lety +19

      "Barry?! Did you go back in time to stop your mother's death, again?!

    • @d0tbat
      @d0tbat Před rokem +10

      Well after the amalgam universe shenanigans, this unironically could be the answer lmao

    • @tjjordan4207
      @tjjordan4207 Před rokem

      Although, the Superboy Prime punching reality did make me wonder if all of Marvel’s continuity errors, characters appearing alive despite being dead and even how all the characters are living their lives throughout the different decades without seemingly aging is due to time and space being affected by time-travel and other cosmic events. Like it’s hiccuping from time to time, quickly changing things or moving time along without aging the characters.
      It’s something I don’t want addressed or answered, only that it’s a thing that is happening without the characters even knowing.

    • @mrdgenerate
      @mrdgenerate Před rokem +1

      Ah yes of course... The old "bringing people back to life by punching holes in reality" cliche.

    • @metaloverload7374
      @metaloverload7374 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@Mike_DuboNah he stopped himself from stopping himself from jacking off that one time.

  • @MaximumSpider19
    @MaximumSpider19 Před 6 lety +299

    Dan Slott: I'm gonna write the Clone Saga but better.
    Me: Bendis already did it.

  • @priceyyeti4058
    @priceyyeti4058 Před 6 lety +235

    Dan Slott: Hey, remember that event from the nineties everyone hated?
    Fan: Which one?
    Dan: The Spider-Man one.
    Fan: Which one?
    Dan: Clone Saga! I'm going to do my own version, but make it good.
    Fan: I got 10 bucks on "this will suck." Who wants in?

    • @theinfinitywell8893
      @theinfinitywell8893 Před 6 lety +16

      This is the most fucking accurate representation of Spider-Man in the 90's in retrospect.

    • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
      @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Před 6 lety +30

      Okay, fine. What's the theme, Slott?
      "Don't bring back things that should stay dead."
      ...
      "..."

  • @Crimsonknight700
    @Crimsonknight700 Před 6 lety +85

    Shaking the pills might be the funniest running gag in a Back Issues.

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions Před 6 lety +74

    The quality of the episode can be determined by just how disgusted and horrified they are in the thumbnail.
    This gonna be good.

    • @Scandal262
      @Scandal262 Před 6 lety +6

      It's Over 9000 Productions you can tell how good a Tiffany episode is going to be by how long she talks about how much she likes the book at the start of the episode.

  • @YAYCONFORMITY
    @YAYCONFORMITY Před 6 lety +116

    The problem with retconning sins past was that they would have had to actually reference sins past, and really, who wants that? I think Gwen just having no idea about any of it serves as a soft retcon.

    • @idongesitusen5764
      @idongesitusen5764 Před 4 lety +5

      Why not just say Norman & Gwen Stacy were Skrulls when they undo OMD... oh wait. Never Mind :(

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 Před 3 lety +4

      They should have just said it was her clone or something stupid so that it's just so complicated that no one wants to even think about having to think about it

    • @prophetofrage3099
      @prophetofrage3099 Před 2 lety +1

      1:02:53.... funny you would mention that....

    • @feliperisseto9113
      @feliperisseto9113 Před rokem

      ​@@pickedceasar1216better yet: just pretend It never happened.

    • @tjjordan4207
      @tjjordan4207 Před rokem +1

      Now this is hilarious considering the confusing mess we just got recently.

  • @SeelkadoomandJokic00
    @SeelkadoomandJokic00 Před 6 lety +133

    Kaine's Scarlett Spider was pretty good though honestly. Wish people bought it.

    • @apcfire
      @apcfire Před 6 lety +18

      Mordexai it was pretty good and I enjoyed. Shame Slott fucking ruins him again.

    • @WDFilms25
      @WDFilms25 Před 4 lety +6

      It’s my second favorite Spider-run
      It’s
      Spider-Gwen
      Scarlet Spider (Kaine)
      Ultimate Spider-Man
      Superior Spider-Man (the 1st run)

    • @lifemattersnot
      @lifemattersnot Před 4 lety +14

      It's been two years but I finally found outher Kaine fans hello.

    • @WDFilms25
      @WDFilms25 Před 4 lety +10

      jay day and the face off between him and superior? It was great. Kaine is the Red Hood to Peter’s Batman

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter Před 3 lety +2

      Have Peter Parker, Ben Riley and Kaine ever teamed up together, like as a trio. It sounds like a cool idea.

  • @TheChocoboKid
    @TheChocoboKid Před 6 lety +38

    I finally see why Sal hates tie-ins. I would hate it too if I was just buying this too.

  • @megamonmon
    @megamonmon Před 6 lety +60

    Clones? Spiderman? What could possibly go wrong true believers?

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 Před 6 lety +16

    This is the book where I was like, “ I never want to see, Slott Write Spider-Man ever again”.

  • @sonofvicvega816
    @sonofvicvega816 Před 3 lety +6

    "May there never be another one"
    *Miles getting his own Clone Saga*

  • @chikidchris
    @chikidchris Před 6 lety +40

    Lol The holo-Anna Maria joke just the right level of wrong. Can't wait for the future Back issues on the inevitable event "Spider-Man: One More Clone" written by Slott and art by Quesada. "What would you do if you only had One More Clone?"

    • @megamonmon
      @megamonmon Před 6 lety +9

      Chi-Kid Chris does that mean it will have a clone of Mephisto?

    • @chikidchris
      @chikidchris Před 6 lety +2

      Of course. Wouldn't be a Spider-Man story without Mephisto.

  • @sethtalkington5447
    @sethtalkington5447 Před 6 lety +16

    Ben Riley’s last line should’ve been “oldest trick in the clonebook”

  • @ThatKevinBravo
    @ThatKevinBravo Před 6 lety +26

    "So all the other spider-men are like shitty" Spiderverse in nine words

  • @Evyscreations
    @Evyscreations Před 6 lety +24

    Oh my God this book is a nightmare but this episode is fucking brilliant
    Edit: A Phantom Menace, Batman Begins, AND Spider-Man 2002 reference? NICE

  • @1337snake888
    @1337snake888 Před 6 lety +22

    I thought Conway's clone saga was pretty fun.

  • @DominicGloverComicBookArtist

    This was hilarious. I’m so ready for Dan Slott to be done with Spider-Man

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +5

      Just four more issues to go...

    • @stephenthedude4383
      @stephenthedude4383 Před 6 lety

      Dominic Glover whos gonna take over?

    • @peterparker5773
      @peterparker5773 Před 6 lety +4

      Dominic Glover I really hope we have a guy who knows Spider-man writing the new book. Dan Slott pissed me off so much in his long run. He made Felicia unlikable and look like a dummy during Superior Spider-man. Same with Mary Jane.

    • @YalkYalk_
      @YalkYalk_ Před 6 lety +1

      +stephen the dude Nick Spencer

    • @jakew6162
      @jakew6162 Před 6 lety

      At August he's doing Fantastic Four so hold your beer.

  • @spdrwrtr
    @spdrwrtr Před 6 lety +17

    Sal, PLEASE do a follow-up Back Issues on the tie in issues! this was a cathartic episode for me! Reading the Clone Conspiracy last year was such a mess to tackle; watching you guys groan through it all was hilarious

  • @kohthefacestealer9289
    @kohthefacestealer9289 Před 6 lety +25

    I love the faces you guys are making in the thumbnail.

  • @Benm701
    @Benm701 Před 6 lety +16

    They've gone in the ventilation shafts.

  • @adriancastro3899
    @adriancastro3899 Před 6 lety +77

    Scarlet Spider series is actually pretty good tbh

    • @chibbykill
      @chibbykill Před 6 lety +1

      me too!...after PKD relented and gave up most of the Clone Conspiracy stuff

    • @jimfine8001
      @jimfine8001 Před 6 lety

      I read the first tpb of it and it’s pretty solid

    • @PowerPackers90
      @PowerPackers90 Před 6 lety +3

      Yeah Sal really needs to read passed issue 1. As for while there before the Spectacular Spider-man relaunch happened it was to me the best main universe spider-man title.

    • @mr.raygunz929
      @mr.raygunz929 Před 6 lety +3

      Adrian Castro Ben's series is the best written out of all the current Spider titles

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Před 5 lety

      Mr. Raygunz well bad news for you guys that series is now cancelled

  • @AHZUH
    @AHZUH Před rokem +2

    “Peter Parker invented Webware give me a goddamn break” still gets me everytime

  • @liverusrock6789
    @liverusrock6789 Před 6 lety +11

    That "Mua" at the end by Sal hurted me just by laughting so hard.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache

    Slott. The irony escaped you as you wrote this story, I see, you strange man.

  • @Farmeryeti
    @Farmeryeti Před 6 lety +40

    Great, now I don't have to read it. Thanks for the save.

  • @gerlach1025
    @gerlach1025 Před 6 lety +14

    So the next clone event will probably be something like "The Clone Agenda" or "The Clone Initiative".

    • @ankur03ch
      @ankur03ch Před 3 lety +2

      @@goldenstatewarriors9418 THEY WILL, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE IDEA, THEY PUSH CLONES. SO WHEN A WRITER WOULDN'T NEW IDEA. NEW CLONE SAGA. BOOM

  • @NellHypothesis
    @NellHypothesis Před 6 lety +22

    This story arc is what made me drop Amazing Spider-Man! So happy to see it on Back Issues so I never have to go back and read it lol

  • @xabbott
    @xabbott Před 6 lety +28

    I actually like Slott's run and enjoyed this clone saga. This Back Issues episode was still funny though. The story does explain why Ben is acting the way he is. He was tortured for awhile while Jackal (Miles Warren) was experimenting with "reanimation." Somewhere towards the end when you find out Ben is still alive he ends up in one more battle with MIles Warren. As far as why Spider-Man and Spider Gwen didn't get infected, it spreads via skin contact and they wear full suits. Not saying the story is without issues but I just happen to remember those items. Love the show. :)

    • @PowerPackers90
      @PowerPackers90 Před 3 lety +9

      Slott's best work was earlier during the Brand New Day Era (when he had check and balance system) and early into his Solo run. Once he hit ends of the earth his stuff took a nose dive for me. It became The Amazing Slott-Man and his amazing fan-fics. Now that his run is sandwiched between JMS and Spencer he exposed I think even more. As a meh writer.

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero Před rokem +3

      The whole concept is complete garbage to begin with. Let's bring back the story concept that nearly killed spiderman and remind everyone why they hate superhero comics.
      Complicated retcons and character revivals oh boy just what comics needed more of

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 Před 4 měsíci

      @@NeutralGuyDoubleZero don’t forget character assassinations both figuratively and literally

  • @liverusrock6789
    @liverusrock6789 Před 6 lety +69

    Clone Conspiracy aka the worst story written by Dan Slott, who begged comic book stores on Twitter to order extra copies of this because it was going to be so good he knew they're going to need them (to go bankrupt), makes the perfect recipe for great Back Issues.

    • @Nimrodcanada
      @Nimrodcanada Před 6 lety +5

      I would exchange "...encouraged comic book stores..." with "..begged comic book stores....."

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Před 6 lety +7

      i am so done with dan slott spider-man

    • @liverusrock6789
      @liverusrock6789 Před 6 lety +2

      Now you're going to have him on 4F

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Před 6 lety +1

      yup oh the irony

    • @liverusrock6789
      @liverusrock6789 Před 6 lety +1

      I'm excited to read it since even if done with him on Spider-man, everytime he wrote them was pretty cool.

  • @Scandal262
    @Scandal262 Před 6 lety +8

    Clone stories are the Spider-Man equivalent of Crises

  • @joshuanelson6795
    @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +25

    I still think Gerry Conway's clone saga from the 1970s was great.

    • @megamonmon
      @megamonmon Před 6 lety +10

      It might as well be Shakespeare compared to the rest

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Před 6 lety +8

      Joshua Nelson It was. That's why they started mining it. Just like the Death of Gwen Stacy was great, but it was a terrible idea to bring back Norman Osborn and mine that history to death and decay.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +5

      +SirToby
      I actually really liked the fact that Marvel brought Norman back from the dead because I think it made for a lot of really interesting stories. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for the constant use of clones.

    • @TapCat
      @TapCat Před 6 lety +2

      There were a lot of good stories in Conway's run, partly because he was just writing Amazing Spider-Man as best he could rather than writing an "event" that had to be coordinated with a bunch of other writers and jammed into numerous titles. Clones were also just one story element that he used and not the main focus of every issue and that made a big difference for the better.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +2

      +TapCat
      Conway's Spider-Man work is definitely some of the best in the character's history.

  • @ImplicitlyPretentious
    @ImplicitlyPretentious Před 6 lety +7

    Aww great videos guys, I had a bad day and this cheered me up, Thanks

  • @toqkaizogou1636
    @toqkaizogou1636 Před 2 lety +4

    1:02:50 this aged well.

  • @marvelmite1
    @marvelmite1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The original Carrion was actually a messed up Miles Warren clone from the 70s so that adds even more clone goodness

  • @mttylerdurden9
    @mttylerdurden9 Před 6 lety +9

    imagine if Grant morrison wanted to not only write Spider-Man, but also wanted to do a clone story.what would that be like?

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +11

      A literal acid trip.

    • @bigboycheesepuffs9644
      @bigboycheesepuffs9644 Před 6 lety +3

      M.T.KaiserSoze Imagine if he were to do Moon Knight.

    • @bigboycheesepuffs9644
      @bigboycheesepuffs9644 Před 6 lety

      M.T.KaiserSoze Fun fact he was supposed to write a Spider man comic back late 90s-early ‘00s, Which was supposed to be Batman Arkham Asylum mad house on a serious earth type book for spider man with mysterio as the villain but he lost interest in writing the character

    • @Shoub-kb9sk
      @Shoub-kb9sk Před 4 lety

      The story would be the definition of insanity

  • @spdrwrtr
    @spdrwrtr Před rokem +2

    28:40 Ben and Sal must've had some ESP that day because it's so close to what's happening in Zeb Wells' run on ASM with Ben Reilly and the "Beyond!" and "Dark Web" story arcs

  • @mishimaro5423
    @mishimaro5423 Před 6 lety +36

    "Who wants to read about Ben Reilly?"
    Me, who likes his character and think it's a damn shame for this character assassination. Also, the new series is actually pretty good and fun. I'm getting all the trades. 🙂

    • @comicpop
      @comicpop  Před 6 lety +19

      Enjoy.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter Před 3 lety +4

      @@comicpop Hey question you're a super spiderman fan? Have Peter Parker, Ben Riley and Kaine ever teamed up together, like as a trio. It sounds like a cool idea.

    • @comicpop
      @comicpop  Před 3 lety +14

      @@WannabeWryter Not really. Kaine was Ben's sworn enemy, so you saw all three together a lot, but not on the same side. Even in clone Conspiracy, Ben's the antagonist so they don't have the chance to team up against a common foe. Maybe during the original Clone Saga the three of them helped each other against Jackal, but any alliance would have immediately dissolved moments later.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter Před 3 lety +1

      @@comicpop Dang, could the trio idea work now in current comics? I think they're all heroes again at this point and Jackal could always have a random rainy day clone hiding around or mabye a copy cat cloner who annoyingly takes up the mantle. (Thank for responding, I'm more DC than Marvel, so I don't even know if spiderman fans would even like something like this?)

    • @samuelkohi2534
      @samuelkohi2534 Před 3 lety

      @@comicpop yeah. However, the point was here to see the original Peter, Ben and Kaine work together as Spider-men. Imagine Aunt May meeting up with Kaine face to face. That would be interesting. Would Aunt May accept Kaine as her sort of nephew or not? The samw is for Ben Reilly.

  • @Sicod79
    @Sicod79 Před rokem +1

    Ben's hair tells me he is a clone who is currently regrowing. Well played Ben clone, well played.

  • @thomaslugaric7672
    @thomaslugaric7672 Před 6 lety +5

    One of the funniest episodes yet guys👌🏼 killing it as usual

  • @thommuseddard537
    @thommuseddard537 Před 6 lety +3

    OK. This is one of my favorite back issues already.

  • @Simplesource98
    @Simplesource98 Před 6 lety +7

    This would be a cool retcon for why the Marvel Zombies universe happens. Another awsome Back Issue.

  • @99jmaster
    @99jmaster Před 6 lety +4

    In Akihko's voice : *I've been waiting for this!* I've been waiting for Sal to rip into this for like 2 years

  • @narendhiranp5069
    @narendhiranp5069 Před 3 lety +4

    Gwen said that she forgave Peter for everything. She just felt betrayed that he didn't trust her with his identity but she understood why Peter hid his secret. She was happy that Peter moved on like she would have wanted to and had MJ. She even kinda helped Peter by fighting other villians at the end and went down fighting.
    But it was in Amazing Spider-Man issue.
    That's the only best thing in this comic.

  • @joshuanelson6795
    @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +81

    This is definitely one of the worst stories in Dan Slott's run...which is really saying something.

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Před 6 lety +6

      Joshua Nelson What? Slotts run wasn't great. But it wasn't consistently terrible.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +5

      +Kevin Bevel Jr
      I honestly didn't care for "Spider-Island" or most of the stories during the "Big Time" era (excluding "No One Dies"). SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN was flawed yet fun, but the whole Parker Industries saga was a complete dumpster fire.
      +SirToby
      I disagree. While Slott has had a few winners under his belt, most of his work has ranged from mediocre to awful in my opinion.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety

      +Kevin Bevel Jr
      I agree that "Mysterioso" was a pretty fun story. With a few exceptions, I honestly think Slott is a terrible Spider-Man writer.

    • @thehypershon4064
      @thehypershon4064 Před 6 lety +10

      Joshua Nelson lol that’s why Superior Spider-Man is probably the best he’s ever been. He wasn’t writing Peter Parker he was writing Doctor Octopus.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +1

      +TheHypershon 40
      Slott writes a pretty good Otto Octavius for the most part; I'll give him that.

  • @michaelthethird702
    @michaelthethird702 Před 6 lety +11

    I don't think I've ever laughed so hard during a #BackIssues as I did with this but starting at 29:53. This episode is going on my list of favorites. LMFAO

  • @Beaze17
    @Beaze17 Před 6 lety +7

    Hey Sal! lol I'm not Morlun fanboy or anything but I look back on his introduction as pretty damn awesome. I was a kid at that point and had never seen that brutal of a fight in comics. Ive never seen Spider-Man struggle so hard! He may be a jackass but the dude Morlun had gravitas back in the day lol

  • @Cartoonmania-ci3yj
    @Cartoonmania-ci3yj Před 6 lety +16

    ( Sees the title after knowing about the teaser a few weeks ago. )
    Oh no, here we go again.
    Also please don’t skip on any ultimate Spider-Man books. If you can’t make a whole episode about a certain arc, at the very least talk about it for 10 min please.

  • @GirlsLoveMyM40
    @GirlsLoveMyM40 Před 6 lety +2

    "In a tie in" I loved this episode

  • @evanfeldman-boshes4912
    @evanfeldman-boshes4912 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Watching this while reading Dark Web is a truly enlightening experience

  • @ItsMattYoung
    @ItsMattYoung Před 6 lety +5

    Yes! Thank you for doing this one. Can't wait to watch when I get home. I thoroughly enjoyed The Clone Conspiracy and all its tie-ins.

  • @flywheelshyster
    @flywheelshyster Před 4 lety +2

    30:00 now all the ethans can shut up because every time gotta have these little pills ::shaking cup:: i love it every time i see/hear it.

  • @F_lippy
    @F_lippy Před 6 lety +5

    (Shake the pill bottle)

  • @Marcus-xk9im
    @Marcus-xk9im Před 6 lety +5

    7:45
    Hey I forgot to ask, do you like guacamole?

  • @Nadodan
    @Nadodan Před rokem +1

    1:03:00 Sal Predicts Goblin Wars 4 years early

  • @garanromia9385
    @garanromia9385 Před 6 lety +5

    Please keeping going with the ComicCrap for Back Issues! I love it for all the wrong reasons

  • @saracohle
    @saracohle Před 2 lety +2

    Holy shit the madman called the clone retcon. This kind of precognition is too powerful, Sal.

  • @vfxninja5503
    @vfxninja5503 Před 4 lety +1

    Sal: "Remember the Web of Life?"
    Ben: *Soul angrily escapes body*

  • @DarkHighlander1993
    @DarkHighlander1993 Před 6 lety +14

    Wasn't Spider-Man kind of like the mascot for Parker Industries or something like that? Because that would justify why PI inventions have spider themes like the Spider-Car or the mobile phone thing..

  • @esavalila576
    @esavalila576 Před 6 lety +5

    Clone in the title, instant maniacal grin on my face...btw, were you guys planning to do a manga at some point (maybe by Tiffany) or is my brain completely making this up...I would be pretty excited about Attack on Titan or Fullmetal Alchemist since you recently referenced it

  • @gilmerrobles548
    @gilmerrobles548 Před 6 lety +36

    #Tiff4AbigalBrand

  • @joshuanelson6795
    @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +5

    Carrion was actually created in the late 1970s by Bill Mantlo and Jim Mooney.
    marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Miles_Warren_(Carrion)_(Earth-616)
    The Lizard's family actually died during the Zeb Wells story "Shed" from AMAZING SPIDER-MAN vol. 1 #630-634.

    • @sirtoby4939
      @sirtoby4939 Před 6 lety +4

      Joshua Nelson Yeah, but that was the original Carrion. The 2nd Carrion is the one that is relevant to Kaines current affliction.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 Před 6 lety +3

      +SirToby
      The Malcolm McBride version? You would be correct. I just thought Sal was talking about Carrion in general.

  • @sethbennedetti753
    @sethbennedetti753 Před rokem +1

    Like how Hickman ripped this off for Krakoan ressurection.

  • @Joyoboyogomu
    @Joyoboyogomu Před 5 lety +2

    Wait a minute. The guy on the left is wearing the same outfit from the clone saga episode.... CLONE!!!

  • @desi_no_aka
    @desi_no_aka Před 5 lety +1

    Jordan Peeles Us proves this story was almost a kernel of a good idea.

  • @infamouscavalier9446
    @infamouscavalier9446 Před 6 lety +2

    I remember this event. I fell off Midway thru.

  • @Blannibal311
    @Blannibal311 Před 6 lety +2

    Honestly out of all the Clone Sagas this is by far the my favorite and the best one.

  • @TheZintastic
    @TheZintastic Před 5 lety +1

    I remember when I used to thought Spiderman was just "villain of the week" and like that...
    ...Things were easier to follow back then.

  • @geasslordzero
    @geasslordzero Před 6 lety +6

    The reason Ben went crazy was explained in a tie-in. Jackal killed him and resurrected him hundreds if not thousands of times and he remembered every single death everytime he came back and eventually his mind just broke.
    Tl;Dr Ben Riley got tortured until he became evil.

    • @comicpop
      @comicpop  Před 6 lety +8

      I don't get it. We literally said exactly this in the episode, AND said it was explained in a tie-in.

  • @kylelundy802
    @kylelundy802 Před 6 lety +2

    I don’t know a lot about spider-man history other than what Sal has taught me. The thumbnail alone has me excited nonetheless.

  • @jmail1984
    @jmail1984 Před 5 lety

    Sal as the the new Jackal is sooo funny! Love it when Sal plays a villian that is sooo hammy!

  • @GameBoyAV3RY
    @GameBoyAV3RY Před 5 lety +2

    Man Im super glad you guys got a member of Linkin Park to replace Ben on the couch

  • @dravin815
    @dravin815 Před 2 lety +1

    The weirdest thing about this to me is that if I talk to anyone who read comics in the 90s a lot will say the clone saga sucked but they liked scarlet Spider. Then this comes along rehashing the horrible event and says," you know what, let's mess up Scarlet Spider to."

  • @jeff8008
    @jeff8008 Před 6 lety +2

    I kinda wish Dan Slott had actually killed Kaine in Spider-Verse, instead of including him in this junk. Worse, now he's stuck in Peter David's Ben Reilly book. It suuuuuucks.
    That Scarlet Spider book with Christopher Yost and Ryan Stegman was damn great and actually made me like Kaine.

  • @jbozlinski
    @jbozlinski Před 6 lety +3

    Sal sounds so fucking done. Lol

  • @Kopaka808
    @Kopaka808 Před 6 lety +1

    Now Slott is going to be taking over the Fantastic Four?......Fuck.......

  • @Fusion350_
    @Fusion350_ Před 6 lety +9

    Why can they never just leave Ben as the scarlet spider is that to hard to ask i like Ben as a hero his storys as spiderman were fun and even how the used his last line from his death to inspired Mayday Parker spider girl

    • @heroicgangster9981
      @heroicgangster9981 Před 2 lety

      I hope he appears in Across the Spider-Verse and becomes a best boi to influence the comic book writers to stop doing forced villain stories with him

  • @MrCeratix
    @MrCeratix Před 6 lety +1

    What a gift to wake up to this wonderful thursday morning

  • @seankensing
    @seankensing Před rokem

    Ethan and Ben's various reactions starting at about 20 minutes in are hysterical.

  • @gusparkwood4890
    @gusparkwood4890 Před 2 lety +2

    This is, technically, the second best Clone Saga. While Bendis's is still the best in Ultimate, I don't hate this story. It's not awful

  • @austineaton2646
    @austineaton2646 Před 6 lety +4

    13:55 It’s a Comic POP catchphrase!

  • @halfcentaur2171
    @halfcentaur2171 Před 6 lety +1

    The implication I was getting from the lady getting Electro powers was because she also had a lot of his DNA uhm, "mixed" with hers when she died. And somehow the way she died allowed that dna to remain active when she was cloned.

  • @billyretrogamer
    @billyretrogamer Před 5 lety +1

    Lol Ethan is wearing the same shirt he wore for the clone saga episode

  • @brandoncox9345
    @brandoncox9345 Před 6 lety +5

    Every time I think "hey, maybe I should give more of Slott's run a chance", I hear stories like this and immediately regret my interest.

  • @thatnovoguy1378
    @thatnovoguy1378 Před 4 lety +2

    LMAO I lost it at 30:42 .... QUALITY CONTENT

  • @christinelowery2415
    @christinelowery2415 Před 4 lety +4

    Yea, in one of the tie ins they try to explain why Ben was that way. Apparently after the Jackle found him and experimented on him he remembered being brought back and dieing over 20 times. At some point he wanted to stay dead but he kept finding himself alive again. They tried to get you to feel sorry for him but I never did.

    • @heroicgangster9981
      @heroicgangster9981 Před 2 lety

      Ben being used as a force for bad is just too tiring to get invested in tbh

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před 6 lety +4

    Personally the only clone stories i recommend that our good with Spider-man aka peter parker our only two, one of them is amazing spider-man the real clone saga which was a mini series that actually made the clone saga good and had a way better ending then the original clone saga and plus in that series baby may is still alive and so is ben riely aka scarlet spider they get to live with a happy ending offer which made me happy. Finally the ultimate clone saga which was also good that's about it.

  • @rogeliocanela8907
    @rogeliocanela8907 Před 6 lety +5

    I didn't think clone conspiracy was bad. We got the new Ben Reilly that's tying in with Damnation, which I'm having fun with.

  • @mikesetzer9379
    @mikesetzer9379 Před 4 lety +1

    I just saw the Ultimate Spiderman Carnage episode! This was great hearing the referencing in this one

  • @bacsilva
    @bacsilva Před 6 lety +1

    Actually Ben Reilly became an asshole by being tortured and killed several times by the original Jackal.

  • @joefayant8470
    @joefayant8470 Před 10 měsíci

    They explain in the story that the jackal mask Ben wears has a voice modulator. But anyone who knows Peter well enough could still realize that it’s Peter(to them even though it’s Ben) just by his body and chin and mannerisms

  • @gilmerrobles548
    @gilmerrobles548 Před 6 lety +7

    Let's ask the POPulation,
    Which character does Ben and Ethan look like?

    • @megamonmon
      @megamonmon Před 6 lety +13

      Gilmer Robles Rick Jones and shaved head Bruce banner

    • @austineaton2646
      @austineaton2646 Před 6 lety +3

      megamonmon Omg. So accurate

    • @emilianolemus7647
      @emilianolemus7647 Před 6 lety +3

      Ethan like the stranger things kid who gets lost in the upside down. Ben idk

    • @connorpalmer6454
      @connorpalmer6454 Před 6 lety +2

      cubencis nailed it

    • @kylelundy802
      @kylelundy802 Před 6 lety +2

      Like less jacked Nightwing and Red Hood. Maybe it’s the hair idk.

  • @TheTheDontae
    @TheTheDontae Před 6 lety +4

    Oh my gonna get a Good sal rant here folks

  • @plumlineltd7585
    @plumlineltd7585 Před 5 lety +1

    Alex Ross' covers for Slot's run promised a more interesting story than Slot actually wrote.

  • @stewartmichael02
    @stewartmichael02 Před 6 lety +3

    *Me:*
    **Sees this**
    **Sigh**
    *“Fuck”*
    **Clicks on video**

  • @KiramidHead
    @KiramidHead Před měsícem +1

    So the fixed the problem with an annoying noise like in Godzilla vs Monster Zero.

  • @Vamroc
    @Vamroc Před 6 lety +2

    This was AWESOME

  • @ha21yang93
    @ha21yang93 Před 4 lety +1

    I find Gwen being awake during the battle between Spidey and Goblin intresting I liked it made her death more heartbraking.

    • @ankur03ch
      @ankur03ch Před 3 lety

      It could be good if haandled more well. this one feels like shit. If norman and gwen in Sins Past were real, then why there is a need to hate Peter which I feel she was hating Peter. Why there is no mention or confession or something like that. Just a Slott.

  • @Wilkidw
    @Wilkidw Před 2 lety

    everyone forgets that Carolyn Trainer was Doctor Octopus during Ben's run as Spider-Man.

  • @ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt
    @ftfasttalkfoodreviewsyt Před 3 lety +1

    the real talent is sals impressions

  • @nathanmarkel3390
    @nathanmarkel3390 Před 6 lety +1

    Great episode as always.