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What Tools Do You Need to Build a Lamborghini V10 Engine?
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- čas přidán 26. 10. 2023
- There's a wide range of tools available for engine building, but what's the difference between an entry level setup; mid-range stuff and the top-line items that many professionals use? We decided to show you by using some of the kit we available for measuring up pistons and bore on a 5.2 V10 Lamborghini bottom end.
It's a long video, but well worth a watch - especially if you're looking to start an engine build.
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This is gonna be one of the best you’ve ever done. Couldn’t believe this was an hour and a half gone so informative. You’re so passionate people that get an engine built by you now understand why they have to wait and what goes into it. Brilliant video keep them coming love the channel brilliant brilliant brilliant brilliant
Great watch, look back when measuring with the micrometre the reading was 82.42 you then say 82.2 the next measurement was 82.45 and the last measure being 82.449, therefore the micrometre was not as far out. I have no experience, I enjoy the channel, I maybe wrong but that's what I heard... cheers all
That’s the difference between a proper engine builder that knows what he’s doing and is educated, Then these other CZcams Channels that build a engine so shall I say throw a engine together! Great work Rickey! Would love to come round to your garage and a look around
I love the level of detail in your builds and the care taken. Totally 100% agree with you on measuring equipment too, as I’m from an engineering background being a qualified toolmaker/CNC programmer/operator with 40 years in the trade and still at it. I knew who you meant about the McLaren builds too. I know exactly who I would have build me an engine 👍
Oh I want to know what the other McLaren build is now!
Built the odd 2 stroke bike engine in my youth but every day's a school day , really enjoyed seeing how a professional does it properly and what's involved , great channel.
As your a thinking Man there is actually one further tip i can give you on ring gap positions😉 Put that top ring gap at the exhaust valve side of the cylinder as that gap will have slightly less exposure to high temp/pressure combustion gasses. Unfortunatly for most 2 valve cylinder Headed Engines only as 4 Valve motors have the valves across the cylinder.
Blueprinting came about for optomising engines within the rules,
eg, setting block deck heights to minimum manufacturers spec to increase compression as much as possible, Indexing the Camshart lobes more accuratly and ensuring all the valve lifts are at maximum spec, etc...etc..
And Yeah oil everything but use the absolute minimum assembly lube on cams and bearings as it's that that stops the rings bedding in quickly 🙂
This is really quality content. Built my first engine last winter, not to the same nth degree and measurement of here but for a first engine, was quite happy with the process
Keen to do another in future to a much higher level of measurement & balancing
That video was fantastic, cheers. I'm still laughing from your other video with a question from 'Scrotal Cuppage'. Love the vids Rick.
Really enjoyed this. As an amateur builder its fascinating seeing how it should be done. Now I know why some of mine blew up!
Love the depth of technical detail, would be interesting to know what lengths F1 builders take it to
this should be a tafe/college video that all apprentices should watch to show the importance it is to know your trade when engine rebuilding
This video may seem geeky to some, but as far as I'm concerned its a quality watch , i think by the number of comments this type of content is well apreciated.
Amazed at the level and quality of detail you go into, I can't beleive you have only been at this for 8 years i think you said, there are people in many technjcal jobs who don't reach that level of skill and detail in their work for decades. Some of those tools are amazing though !!
Ricky, this video is, by far, the most informative, educational, and practical show I've ever watched. Well done.
Thank you for watching. Appreciate the comment.
Thanks for these videos I'm thinking about building engines my self
Ricky you are a PRO. This was extremely informative and impressive, your attention to detail, skill and pragmatism are evident in everything you do. 😎👍
Fascinating stuff. With the very fine clearances/tolerances you're working to, does ambient temperature have any effect (via expansion/contraction of metal parts)? Do you have to maintain a constant, set temperature in the engine room?
From one my previous jobs you have too ensure all parts and gauges have been in the same environment long enough too for them all too be acclimatised.
Yes!
Great info, more of these please! Cheers, Doug
i learn so much watching you, i realise how thick i am and how much we all have to learn
Well I never new Leonard Rossiter was so bloody brilliant an engineer 😂🙏🏻🇬🇧 ( Rising Damp) also bloody brilliant 👍🏻
Thank you so much for taking the time to produce that video. Found it really interesting. Amazing to see the detail and the level what has gone to to produce these engines.
Love the in depth look at engine building just a couple of questions. Firstly do you re-weigh the ring sets after gapping and rematch the components before taking material off the piston? Second as you don’t gap the ring set to the piston what tolerance does the piston ring groove have ?
Should mention before measuring anything metal, allow all the parts to acclimatise to the room temperature for 24 hrs, or better still maintain the room temperature to a set temperature. If measuring plastic humidity is a factor to consider and maintain for a longer period.
Yeah that’s a very good shout! All the accuracy is pointless if you are allowing temperature to disrupt your build room.
The temperature should be kept to 20c. Your measurements could be perfect in the morning but as the room heats up everything changes even the measuring equipment.
@@symey91exactly, it’s why our engine room is climate controlled.
Watched it twice. Fascinating engineering content.
Possibly one of the best techie vids you done so far.
Keep up the excellent work.
Thanks so much for watching.
Awesome - absolutely loved that tech talk!!! Keep em comin.........
Thanks for watching.
@@REPerformanceUK My pleasure Ricky! For everytime I have watched CZcams video's of people with the 'Ugga Dugga' mentality it is now a pleasure to watch someone do it the right way with conscious effort and take pride in their work.
I look forward to your weekly video's as do many others I am sure!
Keep er lit dude.......
@@Pablo__D 😀😀
Glad I stayed till the end, as I do love a toolbox tour!
Wow ! Never knew there was SO much involved just on the piston side of an engine build, really interesting science lesson with man like Ricky !
Your first.
Piston was eighty two point 42
Excellent video. So interesting.
cheers REP major thrust and ring spacing noted...
That was really informative and entertaining at the same time. I really enjoy the engine build related videos. It reminded me of a surface finish problem I once had. I was measuring the surface finish of ground slideways on a CNC machining centre. They felt rough with my finger nail, but the Taylor Hobson gauge (same principle as yours but 25 years ago) was saying that the surface finish was excellent. After scratching my head for 15 mins, it suddenly dawned on me that it was measuring the surface finish between the peaks/troughs, not of the peaks/troughs. Always use the right tool for the job, and just as importantly, the right operator! 😂
The difference between your 3 decimal place micrometer and your measuring centre could be from using different Standards to calibrate? Could try swapping the standards over or just use 1, loving the content
A fully blue printed engine is one that built to the print, and designers intention, not to what the bean counters opened the tolerances up to, to reduce cost, and increase production speed. Things like bore spacing, deck height, and parallelism to the crank, angle between the cylinder banks, etc. Its much better than it used to be, but even as recently as the 80's production stuff was all over the board.
Why don't you start a patreon channel. I like watching your general video stuff it's great. If I wanted to get bored shitless listening to technical engine building stuff I would be happy to pay for it. Just a suggestion 😉
100% agree. The knowledge coming from this channel is unbelievable. I’m a member of a patreon channel for motorcycle info and I gladly subscribe for the monthly fee. It helps build community also.
as ian barnes said; 82.42mm not 82.2. well spotted. Good watch though
INJOYED IT BOYS .
Loved the video. I will using some of the info to get the best out of my bike i hope to rebuild over the winter
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I love your channel even though I don’t own any of the cars you mentioned. McLaren Lamborghini or R8, I just wish you did Porsche 911 CARRERA OR GT3 engines builds or even talk about 911 engines,, do you know or anyone here know any good CZcams channels that are excellent Porsche engines builders that has this standards of cleanliness and attention to details / accuracy…
Well i'm 21 minutes in to this video, and I don't know how you engage me for your usual 40 min ones, but you do. Blueprint to me is reducing the tolerences to bang on. As an aerospace machinist myself, I get that shit. If I could afford an R8 or Lambo, it would be coming to you for sure! Keep doing your content, awesome!
Thank you for the training Prof. Rick!
Nice to see the top end measuring centre…. Liked the surface finish measurements ( not seen that before)
Here in Murica, the classic definition of blueprinting is machining ALL engine clearances to the exact center of the dimensional tolerance (for +/-). It costs a LOT more, because there is extra honing for each part.
A note on ring gap placement. Obviously, the ends of the ring will be the most likely place for them to flutter, so the further from the thrust face, the better. At RPM, compression and flame pressure build so fast that it's not likely you would see any "blow by" past the ring ends, regardlessof how many degrees apart they are. Of course a leak down test might show some slight difference, as the pressure is constant, not a spike.
Just my humble opinion...
FANTASTIC!
I love these videos - they teach me how much I don’t know about engines :-)
In a non arselicking way Rick your the man! If I ever had an R8 or something of significance car or bike related you'd be where I'd turn for engine work
Fascinating. Great vid.
Thanks!
Loved this, bit over my head, but I got the gist. Cheers Ricky, Kate and team.
Thanks for watching 😊
Loved the detail in this and great to have a nose in your box!
Briliant video! more technical the better! not many people go as far as you.
Maybe explain at some point how you go about and choose what spec engine you will build depending on what it’s going to be used for?
I've tried heating the pistons on my Audi to try to understand piston to bore clearance when doing sleeves in a original alusil block. I now how a slight understanding of how difficult that stuff is to calculate. The pistons grow by an insane amount with heat! Same with the block. That's a problem if the materials grow different, like the sleeve in the block that the manufacturer never meant it to have vs a clean block. No wonder so many people have trouble doing that shit.
Would love for you to mention your thoughts on the subject.
Wow, the level of detail and great explanations of how you set out and why you do what you do is fascinating, my head jas just gone BOOM 🤯. Top job 👏
Couldnt be more relevant to what Im learning atm, just calibrated my grandads old moore and wrights, but they only go to 1 thou I really need to get a 1/10th thou mic. Great vid!
Oh the good ol ring gap discussion. Not putting a gap on the major thrust surface cant hurt. There shouldn't be a burr on any of the rings if you inspect everything but if there is it'll leave a mark on the cylinder wall no matter what. The rings rotate so in the long run they will end up lining up with the major thrust surface anyway. I guess it may help for the initial startup for a few seconds. The cylinder wall Ra, Rpk and Rvk compared to the ring material is much more important than the arrangement of ring gaps. I'm surprised builders don't discuss cylinder wall finish very much when talking about rings. HP can be gained and lost in this area. Just ask pro stock engine guys.
Love the detail you give us in these videos. Regarding what you said about ring placement on major thrust, where is major thrust on an inline engine? I get it on a V engine but not an inline?
Awesome build video. Interesting what you were saying about the area of major thrust, do the rings at no point vibrate around? Or you build them in one orientation, and when you strip it again after several thousand miles they are in the same orientation? I would have thought the cross hatch may act like rifling to a smaller degree and rotate them ?
Very geeky Rik, fascinating hour. I bet you've still got all your old tools after upgrading as they become the memories of the journey you've been on from apprentice to master builder. Digital makes life easier too instead of the older method manualy counting marks on a mic or vernier. It was a good statement made about how 1 gram at 8000rpm makes a huge difference. Reminds me about 600cc fourstroke motorbike engines running at 17000rpm😢😢 and despite all that measuring and care... the bloomin thing can go bang on first start up😮😮. Great content. #WheresKate... no mention😂
This is amazing. The cleanroom, lovely 😍
Thank you! 😊
Brill vid Professor Ricky 🤓 great technic vid 👍👍
You can tell a lot about the tradesman by his tools and toolbox ,its the little things that make the difference
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us! Jolly good
Great video, not much else to say. I am planning a piston and rod job on my car soon and some of this info will come in handy👍
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Great video...... loved it
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.
Very nice video again, thanks! The ring orientation: My (limited) experience is that the rings move (somewhat) in the grooves while engine running. What’s your experience, do the rings move?
Absolutely quality 👌 thoroughly enjoyed.
Great content love your technical knowledge. Totally agree with the buy the best you can afford. I have lost my tools three times due to theft. And have rebuilt with what I can afford but looking to quality. Would love to see you do a bike engine I got a NC 29.
Love it!!!!!!! Very very good episode!
Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching.
Epic content, but very small point, you keep calling a digital caliper a micrometer which may lead to confusion for someone trying to work out what to buy. Effectively, digital caliper (not a vernier caliper as it doesn’t have a vernier scale!) is ok, but not a precision tool. Digital micrometer is good, then a multi-level measuring plate with DTIs and digital micrometers is the gold standard for repeatability
Great video. Really appreciated the way you explained how weight makes such a difference, and getting each piston assembly to a similar weight. I suppose the same applies to pistons/bores.. you will match them up to get the best tolerances. I'm sure that the longevity of the engine will be better because of it. Do you have any thoughts on how such an engine will perform? What sort of differences do you notice after they are running (smoother, more powerful, longer life?)?
Brilliant video, learned so much👍
Thanks for this video, it shows the process that I asked about in my question that you read out in a previous video .. Hi to Kate...👍
Hi 👋
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Yeeeeeessss, brilliant video. I'm not sure if cope with all them there numbers an that... 😂 But with a little metricultionp and patience I'm sure I could rebuild my Ford Pinto 2 leeetah
Question ... You made reference to reducing the width of the bearings to reduce friction. How do you prevent the bearing "wandering" across the journal width, side to side like?
Cheersmatethanksbye
Right tool for the right job 👍
Interesting subject regarding ring position. Personally I doubt it makes any difference as I understand the rings do rotate during engine operation. Have you ever observed the position following a tear down? I doubt they'd be where you originally installed them, but i'd like to be proven wrong.
Do I guess that my 5 metre Stanley tape measure isn't going to cut the mustard ?
Really enjoyed this video very informative and interesting do you keep engine room at constant temperature from memory when I work in inspection room was 20c
And that gents is why you pay the money for this guy to build you the best.
Do you specify different bore finishes for different applications?
Do you set bike rings the same way as shown in this very informative video, cheers.
Have you thought of running a course? I'd buy in to a week's worth of this...or even book you can recommend?
Great video guys. Way over my head but a great watch all the same.😊
Lol thanks for watching.
You are on another Level so fascinating love these videos ❤
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching.
@REPerformanceUK there is not many CZcamsrs you learn something from each time you watch there video
@@geoffhallimond3711thank you that’s very kind
So I was an aerospace engineer, who specialised in measurement techniques. Not a metrologist , but looked at measurement techniques on some very high value RR engine parts. If you want to move to the next level of understanding measurement techniques, you need to look more at MSA. That’s the next level of understanding of measurements. Might fill in some gaps of your understanding
Hello Andrew, thank you. That’s a great tip, any recommendation on where I can start with that?
@@REPerformanceUK you have an ideal experiment I can see from your videos. Basically an MSA gets 3 people to measure 10 parts 3 times, where the person running the experiment gives the people measuring parts out of order so the person doing the measuring does not know which part they are measuring and hence there is no memory involved. So your ten pistons would be ideal. Key is no one should know what it should measure, and which piston they are measuring. Even without doing this type of work, I can see you have instinctively worked out some issues an MSA will identify.
@@andrewbaron8713 Ah ok, so its a quality control process almost for measuring. Like a control group. That might be quite an interesting test.
Pleaseee do this for the bottom end ❤
Bank balance, would be my main guess for number 1 tool.
Vernier = guessing stick 😊
Verniers - I call them 'Very nears'. 😆
Can I ask what engine log software you are using?
could you not use a drill to remove the weight ?
I'll start a comments row. 😊
Do ring gap locations matter if you accept that piston rings rotate when the engine is running?
Valves rotate when the engine is running but I’d argue against rings rotating, moving over life maybe….but the cross hatch means there is no rotational load in the rings!
Still better to build it right.
That might be a good test actually to prove!
@REPerformanceUK thanks for the reply. This is why I ask questions as I share your point of view on ring rotation but I listened to another drag race engine builder in the US insist that rings rotate whilst engine running.
Is it possible for the rings to rotate in the piston when the engine runs thus negating the effort to place the ring gaps in specifix locations in the piston?
I need a Beer after that!
I am working on a 07 Gallardo 5.0
And I am trying to have the block linehoned from a machine shop. We can't find the stock size of the main with no bearing and stock clearance.
Just wondering if you can help, thank you.
Rick your crazy 😊
I know you have shown it before, but a second video showing all the "best" tools in use would be great....
82.42mm on the calliper.
First gauge is a vernier or a "very near" you called it a micrometer which is infact the second gauge looks like a g clamp.
Yeah the caliper is a rough gauge…I wouldn’t trust them to anything beyond 1 decimal place.
The micrometer (g clamp style tool) or mic for short and I show 2 versions then my measuring centre uses dti gauges.
I love goody time!!!!
raymondmudie just said it but I was always given to undertand that rings would rotate in service. Y/N??
I’d argue against them rotating!
So, I understand why you'd want to measure the diameter on a used piston, but why measure new pistons?
Is this so you can match individual pistons with any discrepancies in cylinder bore dimensions (so you could swap pistons around to obtain matching cylinder clearances)? Or is this just a precaution to ensure all pistons have been manufactured correctly?
I'd understand that if you had 20 pistons, you pick the best 10 pistons, but that would be unreasonable for what you're doing.
Just so you know for sure. Its that simple. If you measure 99 pistons and theyre all perfectly in spec, and you DONT measure #100, it will be screwed up and kill the engine. Seen it happen...
Bedankt
Thank you so much!! That is so kind! I really hope you enjoy the vids!!
You are confusing accuracy for precision. Precision is given by the number of digits after the decimal place in a measurement, accuracy would be expressed as +/-
No I’m not…..many items can measure at 3 decimal places but they might not be accurate.
I work to high levels of precision with tools that are extremely accurate.
Your comment kind of split hairs mate….