LEGO Parisian Street Review
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- čas přidán 1. 02. 2024
- Got to check the Bricklink Designer Program Series 1 Parisian Street early, a crowd funding based project that it's kinda LEGO, but not really. Here's my review.
In a few days the 5 projects will go into crowd funding phase and the ones that get to at least 3000 orders will be sent into production for a limited one time run of 30.000 copies. Check all the info in the link below.
Bricklink Designer Program
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Hello Tiago and everyone, I am Nicolas the designer of this Bricklink set.
Thank you for the review! It's always great to hear feedback from fellow Lego fans. And I would be more than happy to answer some of your questions and provide additional insights. :)
As some of you have rightly pointed out, the inclusion of an alley door is a typical feature of Parisian architecture.
Regarding the facade repetition, I aimed to stay as close to an actual Haussmann building while avoiding ending up with a boring facade. Typically, Haussmannian facades exhibit a consistent style with very subtle variations in ornamentation. This is the reason why I deliberately decided to add different decoration styles on each section of the facade while keeping a homogeneous look throughout the model, and staying within a similar color tone. This approach maintains a cohesive appearance while trying to be as accurate as Parisian architecture, eschewing unnecessary decorations.
Regarding the inside of the model, I made the choice to not include any stairs in the model to maximize the number of rooms. Each level represents a distinct apartment, depicting Parisian life (like small vignettes). I wanted to give every room a different style, some fancier and bigger depending on the floor.
During the design phase, I had to work within the constraints of a limited palette of bricks and colors, which explains why the BDP set doesn't introduce any new elements or colors. The same goes for minifigures.
Thank you again for reviewing the set and I am very much looking forward to the crowdfunding phase! If you have any more questions feel free to write them here! :)
I think this looks great. Tiago seems to be comparing this to the modular designs where I see it as much more like the Harry Potter theme of facades and rooms that often don't connect. Friends sets are similar so I don't see a problem. Great for display and much better for kids to play with in my opinion. I do like the idea of putting some of these BL designs into a limited production so keep up the good work!
@@maddiand Yes indeed! For me, playability and display are as important in a LEGO set and that is why I chose to open the backside of the model! In this way the interior is easily accessible from behind while keeping the building unaltered; it's a sort of alternative to Modulars where we need to split up the model into floors to access the inside of it. The Diagon Alley set was a great reference when designing the set and was built on a similar format.
I think you designed a great set, and it really captures the *actual* Paris atmosphere (in contrast to the Parisian Restaurant, which is a great set, but never felt very Parisian to me ;) ). I think the comparison to a modular is a bit unfair, I would compare it more to City or Creator sets that feature apartments, and it holds up very well to those! And it's fun to see a different approach to these kinds of sets from someone that doesn't have to adhere that stringently to LEGO designer guidelines.
Thank you @@martino087 for your kind comment and I'm so glad to hear you like my design. Living in the surroundings of Paris since my childhood, I always wanted to build a set that could truly capture a Parisian atmosphere, or at least the way I see it, and I'm so glad I finally got the opportunity to propose this set for the Bricklink Designer Program! :)
Well done Nicolas! It really captures the Parisian feel, and the lack of depth that I initially thought could be a problem doesn't seem to have limited the interiors at all. I am of the opinion that the open back adds to the model rather than detracting, but I understand people who don't like that aspect.
My one criticism would be that the full tiling of the floors limits minifigure placement, but I know a lot of AFOLs prefer the smooth look.
The door that leads to an "alley" is actually an apartment building's courtyard. These are *everywhere* in Paris & very iconic to the city. The doors themselves are called "cochère" doors, or "portes cochère" in French.
I did not knew that! Time for another trip to Paris I guess :)
This is correct, I'm disappointed to see this pointed out as some mark of amateur building when it's actually highly accurate
The first part is right, however this isn't a "porte cochère". "Cochère" comes from "cocher" which means coachman, the guy who drives a horse-drawn car. This is a single door both in style and relative size and as such would be way too small for this use.
@TheLegoPerson not everyone knows such details about a city, it's not that big of a deal :)
Thanks I was about to write that! I actually live in one of those ^^
The point about the upper floors all being the same is one of the things that actually makes it Parisian. Large parts of the town centre were designed by a single architect deliberately to have a unified style.
It feels like he raced through this review--which feels more like a product presentation than an in-depth review, frankly--and didn't really research the subject first.
Yeah Haussmann, the project leader, was inspired by post-destroyed by fire London so he did his own mass destruction of Old Paris to unify and modernize it all lol
Not one architect, but one big urban planning project started in the 1850’s and ran well for almost a century
true he wasn't quite an architect, urban planner with a lot of debt and a desire for flattening streets is more fitting@@stephanemami
@@SO-ym3zspossibly, or maybe it’s still good information for prospective buyers to know that they are buying a largely repetitive set. The colosseum set is also extremely accurate, but it’s important to tell people planning on buying it that they are buying 10,000 tan pieces and the build may not be as fun as you hope. People hoping to use this as a modular set, a play set where people can use the balcony, or hoping for a lot of fun variety like in regular Modulars may be disappointed in what they get, even if it’s “accurate.” It isn’t Tiago’s job to explain how accurate a set is, but instead to inform consumers what they are buying so they can make an informed decision.
This is a typical Parisian street, so some of your critics sound a bit off… Haussmanian buildings are (almost) all the same, hence the uniformity of the last floors/roof. That inaccessible balcony on the last floor is super accurate, and the alleyway is in fact an indoor courtyard/lobby.
So a pretty accurate model in my opinion!
Many older buildings has outer corridors that were turned into inner corridors by adding doors at the end. And the Eiffel Tower is not copyrighted, Night Lighting of the Tower is :P
In case anyone is not aware - the Bricklink Designer Program sets are made by one fan designer but are reviewed by Bricklink and go through Lego testing so that they are close to a standard Lego set in terms of stability & building experience. However, designers can only use a strict palette of parts currently in production, hence no recolors/new prints and a slight limitation to interesting new building techniques.
Yes, indeed I designed this set within a limited palette, so the same goes for the minifigures, which obviously are not exclusive! Thank you Joshua for pointing this out! :)
@@nicolasbuilds you bet! Congrats on being so close to crowdfunding, it'll be exciting to see how it goes. (Series 3 designer here).
I'm glad you've eaten a little bit of humble pie in reviewing this. The designer lives in Paris and is a professional architect. This is brilliant work IMO and I'm glad LEGO sent you a copy to review. Thanks for showcasing the program! Voting for Series 4 starts on Monday 5th Feb. See you there!
🖤💙💜💙🖤
for your question about the infringement law on the eiffel tower. It's free to represent the eiffel tower, it's only the eiffel tower by night who is protected (the illumination are under copyright).
Did not know that! Thanks!
@@TiagoCatarinoand I think that’s limited to one particular street as well :))
Thanks for the review! Just to clarify about the alleyway: usually Parisian buildings are square or u-shaped with a paved courtyard in the middle. So their front door, often “porte-cochere” (large enough to let a carriage go through), will lead to a porch going under the front side of the building, and through the courtyard you access the other sides. That’s what we see in the model, the paved porch.
That's only true for Hausmann apartments though. There are a lot of more modern buildings with different shapes.
I love the design of the fences with the handcuffs in the clips
LEGO also uses that technique in the Ninjago City Gardens IIRC
My understanding of the Eiffel Tower is that the light display seen at night is copyright protected, not the tower structure itself. That is why stock photo agencies can sell photos of the tower in daylight but not fully lit up.
Edit: I should have read the fifty other comments before posting this!
Glad I found your comment before I posted something similar. Copyright laws are a total mystery to me!
Nah I just read yours
Tiago complaining that the roofs are all the same like in...Paris 😅
There's a lot of undeserved vitriol on what is essentially just an endorsed moc. Its rather silly to be mad at the set for not being what YOU want it to be.
Vitriol? I don't... hear that? It seems like normal points of criticism to me, and this *is* to be a product for the market.
The bricklink page when first revealed had a lot of anger. It was childish.
Thanks for the advance look. Because of the limited nature of this set's release, having this info beforehand will really help to make the decision before the drop
the alleyway with a door is accurate it's usually to access a private court behind the buildings
This set is beautiful, the simplicity of it reminds me of early modular buildings, wish more of these were available
It feels like we can custom design this set more easily than the official modular buildings. So people looking into that would not mind the absence of stairs or connections between rooms, since it can easily be fixed at your convenience.
Mirror the baseplate layout and put in hinges, so it can open up. Mirroring or finishing the buildings would have the stairs, additional room space and doors.
"Something official modular buildings, for instance, would never do." Not precisely. The bedroom in the police station modular is only accessible via fire escape.
But it is accessible. The rule of proper Modulars is that you could put them in a Lego Movie and a minifig would be able to reach all the spaces.
Accessible, yes, but in a very weird, unrealistic way in this case. Then again, that's normal for Lego products. You've always had to use your imagination to fill in the blanks, which is part of the point of Lego. At heart, they're still kids' toys, not scale models.@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm
@@SO-ym3zs Based on some "microapartments" i see on offer in the likes of London or Barcelona, i start to think that LEGO is coming dangerously close to realism 😅
Although some people will complain that this 'modular-type building isn't complete' and that it will be expensive to modify, I think the latter process could be a lot of fun. One of the first things I'd do is remove that green door from the apparent alleyway, or, better yet, turn the alleyway into a corridor that ends up connecting to the above apartments.
But why would you remove the door?
@@LutraLovegood If it's an alleyway, the door doesn't make sense. If it's a corridor, I'd be inclined to change the 'stone pavement' with pieces that resemble interior flooring. But I'm not personally familiar with Parisian Streets/Parades, so maybe I'm wrong and that type of space is accurate and authentic.
Again, love your review! The set is pretty cool too ❤❤
Good to see some Bricklink promotion. I probably would have missed it otherwise.
I've been on a foodstand kick lately. It started when I was gifted the slushy truck, and I got the burger stand yesterday. I might get the Snack Shack, since it's within my price range.
Thank you for your detailed review! I realized that Lego set is so gorgeous!
Okay now this is a review to be excited for!! 🎉
What is also interesting to note this is series 1 of the newest program which is different from the first program. The first one was all Lego ideas projects that made it to 10,000 support votes but then ultimately were not chosen at the time and this BDP (bricklink designer program) gave them a second life, so fans were craving some of those designs. This time around anyone could join, and anyone could create what they wanted, they only had to be voted in as the top choices in this new version so a bit less of the esteem of the first BDP projects that had to be selected twice. Not to give this less gravitas to this project, but the new series didn't have the same vetting.
Thank you for this “first look” review Tiago! When this set was first revealed as a finalist, I was in love with it. But seeing it in your studio made me like it less - your close-up shots of most of the sections of the building do show it’s not the usual level of LEGO detailing. I don’t mind the lack of interior stairs. And I’m in the minority that doesn’t mind the open back and half-depth. I don’t have a lot of room so this style of set is great for display versus being in a Lego city.
It’s kinda sad this wasn’t a LEGO ideas set, so more people could buy it…
I think the chaotic interior of the set captures how pleasantly intermingled the lives of neighbors are in Paris.
I am somewhat surprised by the insistence on comparing this with a modulars, since their most important feature is being 4-walled. I think this set rather competes with the likes of Harry Potter street sets. And, in that weight class, it is of comparable quality (bar that corner building, which indeed looks quite subpar)
Good point. People have come to use the term "modular" way too loosely to refer to any sort of modern-day, real-world-inspired Lego building set, whether or not there's anything actually modular about it and whether or not it has any ties in functionality or design esthetic to the actual Lego modular series.
This is a really good review. The set almost feels like a sort of economical take on the Cafe Corner style concept and you could always build a back to the buildings, complete with staircases and so on, to bring it to proper Modular standard.
Looks fantastic set great review 👍
Excellent review. It looks like this was designed with a toy doll house style in mind, than an actual modular. On another note, one of your comments got me thinking. Did you go through "Lego training"? If so, have you ever done, or would you ever do, any kind of Lego training vids from what you learned there? Not tips or "here's why this piece is useful" vids, I mean actual training? I think that would be a great series.
I like the mix of tiles and ingot pieces for the stone facade detailing.
This set has a vibe of display piece rather than the usual modular play pieces.
I like that it’s half the depth of a modular building. I don’t have a lot of room and was thinking of halving modular buildings for display versus being in a LEGO city
Great review. I was worried that you wouldn't like it, but it's a fair and generally positive review, albeit one that highlights a few (relatively minor) drawbacks in comparison to official Lego sets.
Exterior 9/10 Interior 5/10 - Too many different brick coulour to delimit each room, it feels "not enough polished" but this exterior is really perfect. The creator made a great work
This was a very insightful review. And after seeing so many of your videos, it is indeed quite clear how the quality and creativity is lacking a bit when compared to official Lego sets. Great set and review, though!
Looks awesome!!
Thanks for a good honest review 😁
I kinda don't mind that there are no stairs, since Lego sets like these are more for display. And even if you wanted to play with it, most people probably wouldn't make the minifigures climb up the stairs. Another positive for the lack of stairs is that it allows for more rooms and more details.
Fantastic review. Wow I'm shocked that Lego sent this out early, but really really glad you got it as these are the types of reviews that are unique and different. With that said I have a lot of the same feelings when I first saw it and not sure I love the dollhouse style of the open back. It does however bring me back to the early 1980s lego days of mine where all of the buildings were open back for play, but as we have now done modular buildings where we have an entire building Lego has definitely moved away from this style. I almost would say buy two and build a complete full depth model, or this could go up against a back wall "in a lego city" where you don't really care and have less room to fit a full modular so there's that. Great work for the designer, but I think I am going to pass on this round. I did get a lot of the earlier Bricklink designer program sets (some of them modular) so I can't buy them all and this was definitely more on the pricier side at $320 US. It's also interesting to note that the previous sales were all on the main page of BL and yet this one is a bit harder to find, having to go to the Programs Tab, but maybe it will show up on the splash page when the sales are announced in 5 days. Really do appreciate the review!
I was all set to purchase this, but actually fell out of love with it last night as I was trying to justify an almost AU$500 price tag. If the proportions were more like a modular with depth and detail I would have persisted, but it's closer to the Creator 3-in-1 "budget modular" range unlike the previous BDP release Modular Construction Site.
It's kinda sad that these Bricklink sets are so limited in knowledge for the general lego fans, even AFOLs. Letting Tiago review or take a look at them can really shine a well deserved spotlight to them.
this design is typical for old parisian buildings. the alleyway with the door usually leads to a courtyard with other building doors there, the stairways would be build in the back (that is further back from where the open back ends)
The Eiffel Tower painting wont be copyrighted. The only thing that is copyrighted (as far as I know) about the Effel Tower are the lights installed on it
Of all next week Design Program Series sets, this one's the one I have my eyes most set on.
Yes, it's not a complete modular and yes it will probably take a lot of money and time to MOC up into one, but for the time being I'd be happy simply to set it against a wall in my Lego City and ignore the interiors (until I have the money and time to properly give it a back wall with connecting stairs between floors etc).
Anyway, I like the aesthetic. It will make a nice 'French Quarter' for my otherwise generic city. I just hope I'm able to successfully purchase a set because for whatever reason my orders didn't go through during the last Bricklink Designer Program (when I unsuccssfully tried to purchase the Building Site/Skyscraper and the 50s Diner). Just a warning, although I'm sure everyone here knows, these BDP sets tend to sell out fast.
Since we’re unlikely to ever get a Lego Ratatouille set, so this is a neat alternative.
02:35 makes sense to me 🤷 Sure it is unusual as an architectural feature but not unheard of. There’s a few in the city near where I live. Typically it comes from the space between building being own by one side or the other and wanting secure access. The only real unusual thing is the facade of both buildings continuing over the door. 🤔🤷
So I was actually going to buy this one, I already have a number of Parisian styled MOCs of my own.
But after seeing this video, I am really dissappointed & have decided I'm better off building something myself.
It very much looks like a creator 3in1 instead of a modular you would expect for 290€!!!
Thank you for your insight and making me save a ton of money :)
This feels like a Persian assembly square , feel like the could have changed the shop ups a bit to really make it different from the existing Lego modulars. .still a nice build
interior, furniture, facade, on point, dollhouse back not so much, would have been cool to have hinges so it folds on itself to create the closed modular. Versatile set for modifications.
Can’t wait for the engine house
Btw can u explain more bout d old and new techniques that Lego designers use?
Or make a comparison between d old n new n fan designers?
Or compare different era with different building techniques?
Etc
Do you have dimensions of the base ? (I guess 48x16 studs)
I really love your videos and all your videos really help me especially because my school project is making a Lego MOC, tho it's a little hard making it i'd love if you could maybe give me some advice
Really love the videos🎉
I personally think this is the lowest demand set out of the series 1. If this was a modular build, i think it would be a sell out. But unfortunately, people are not a huge fan of half open sets. Yes, kids love it for play, but that price point to use it on kids is way too high as well. Still, a nice looking set and beautiful to look at!
I personally love the half open concept and am looking forward to this build,
Unfortunately, Bricklink only ships to countries that have official LEGO stores (not even for certified stores) So, unlike "regular" LEGO sets that I can buy at any toy store, these are impossible for me to get :(
They missed the opportunity to call rhe bisteot as le petit bricktrot
Will You review Wild West BDP Set?
I NEEEEED!!!!
I think the design could have been made more versatile if two halves of the design have an option to close together making one single enclosed building. This way there are two ways to pose the design: 'open' for a street display and 'closed' to put in a modular city. I did not like the extra floor one of the buildings and the odd stairs on the left between the two buildings. Those are not typical of Haussmann buildings, which tend to be more or less uniform in height without alleys between them.
Hmm..seeing this up close does really make a lot of the "features" look more really basic. Was for sure going to get this, but now I'm on the fence. And why is one of the rooms on the top floor one level lower? Is that typical in French buildings?
The „Lego quality“ I can see in the orient express….
I like this one but I will buy the fortress
According to their website the image of the Eiffel Tower during the day falls within the free domain and its use is right free. However the various illuminations of the Eiffel Tower (golden illumination, twinkling, beacon and events lighting) are protected.
The use of the image of the Eiffel Tower at night is therefore subject to prior authorisation
I used to love in Paris and love the city so I was actually tempted to pick this up - until I saw it’s 260 GPB!
I don’t think I have the funds to get into Lego!
I am interpreting this as an unofficial start of Lego Broken Sword line and nobody can stop me
Are you gonna review the other BrickLink sets before Preorders go live?
Which of the bricklink sets are worth buying?
Can you explain the difference of an official lego set to bricklink designer program sets?
It seems to be a good deal for parts, but just from the video I already got this MOC feeling out of it, like it's clearly not as streamlined or refined as an actual LEGO set. I mean I would get it for the pieces but I don't think i'd actually buid the set as it is.
How did you get this early?
This set is cool, but expensive
Thanks so much for the review you just saved me a lot of money. I wish you could review the castle so we can get an honest opinion.
Solidbrixstudios did!
@@TiagoCatarino yeah watched it, but he is a sellout
I can't comment about that channel in particular, but most of the big English-language Lego channels are "sellouts" in the sense that they are part of the Lego Ambassador Network and get free sets in exchange for publicizing them for Lego. This channel appears to be no exception, since he usually mentions in passing that Lego sent him whatever set he's talking about.@@pseudoty
@@SO-ym3zsyou have a brain you can look at the set being reviewed and make up your own mind. Plenty of people in LAN trash lego products when they don't meet their expectations. I don't care about any of these CZcamsrs but this narrative that people have is false.
@@SO-ym3zs let me point out another thing. Whether these people are in LAN or not they're providing affiliate links for products and profiting off a portion of the sale. Even Jang who says he's independent has an affiliate link and profits directly from selling you a product and encouraging you to use that link. Being in LAN just gets you that early exposure. The free sets are nice but the money is in the affiliate links and CZcams money. Not lego bribes.
I actually don’t like it having no stairs or logic access for actual mini people even if it’s a „toy“, personally I always thought having a realistic way to get everywhere was a nice touch, although with this approach you are able to put more into the same space.
nice
So it’s a fancy looking Lego city styled set
Eiffel Tower is only copyrighted at night.
Fun fact: the Eiffel Tower design is actually public domain, it's the lighting that's still protected intellectual property, as it was designed much later.
The copyright for the Eiffel Tower expired in 1993. The external lights still have coptright, but any images during daytime are in the public domain.
I like the look of the thing, from the front obviously, but the fact that the shops are literally the same as the assembly square (cafe/bar, flower shop, bakery) is kind of disappointing to me
I have every modular building in existence as well as every Ideas building. For the core modulars, I also have every one as a second copy brand new in box, except for Market Street. I also include things like Diagon Alley in my display. But I am not sure about this one. To me the front facade looks unfinished, not just the corner part you talk about but everywhere. For example, I don't like what passes for gutters. It all seems a tad dialled down.
Will you do a review about all of the bricklink sets early?
Sadly no, this was the only copy LEGO/Bricklink sent me. If I were to review the others it would be in 6/7 months time.
Not sure what I think of the price (£260) but the design looks pretty good!
Castle mountain forest review?
Are you going to be able to review the other sets before crowdfunding starts?
Unfortunately no. This is it
Olá Tiago, um abraço de Paredes de Coura
Hmm as a Parisian it doesnt quite capture it for me, its like in some weird uncanny valley that doesnt even let me appreciate it for what it is because it is still quite familiar
im sure a lot of other people will enjoy it tho
Or maybe you know what, I think even if it was another city I wouldn't have liked it that much, it feels too compact and the white and grey around the windows break it up from having the detailed stonework one color-ed facade thats peaceful and organic
The real color of a Parisian facade comes from a lot of plants in-front of the windows, which also help the organic feeling, these are quite sparse and lacking vibrance
Bro... Lego literally built the eiffel tower.
They're not gonna get copyrighted for a simple sticker
Does someone know whst happens if a set does not reach the 3k pre order and one has pre ordered it?
Thanks for the answeres beforehand
It won’t get made and therefore won’t be possible to purchase
@@TiagoCatarino thank you very much
I hope you review the castle!
I probably won't. Solidbrickstudios did though!
I wonder who got the Train Shed. Or did Lego send out only the two most expensive ones to be reviewed?
Great looking but I can spot some bad designed parts here and there. (For example upside down tables in front and wheel-chairs.
How come you stopped adding subtitles?
The big question is, can anyone design an alternate build that turns this into a full modular?
Hope That the shack wins
All five designs have already won. Now they just need to receive 3000 pre-orders to go into production. I have no doubt all five will be produced.
Too bad this set is so explicitly compared with modular buildings, I feel that's a bit unfair. I would compare this with City/Creator sets of streets/apartment buildings like 31097: Townhouse Pet Shop & Café.
But this isn’t a playset, pretty sure this will be marked as an 18+ product
@@TiagoCatarino but that doesn’t make it a modular either 😉
@@TiagoCatarino 18+ is just marketing not an actual age rating or a real meter to show the difficulty of a set. You should know this as an ambassador by now. Or are sets like Winnie the Pooh, Sesame Street, Winter Village also not playsets because they come in a boring black box and labeled 18+?
Lego Castle winter Tiago ?
Only if they made as full building instead of half only
oh damn yes! start doing the other legos, like the ones you see on wish and that. i have loads and theyr amazing.
End of the day is a less polished and refined model were amateur design are not tampered by LEGO official designer. In a way it’s a space for LEGO to experiment away from their strick quality rules which can sometimes humper creativity and flatten out the look of things
It's not about the money, It's about building a LEGO set
This is probably my least favourite set out of this series. The details are really nice, but I just can't seem to fit it in my city. Seems to fit more with the lego Creator 3in1 city houses than with the modulars
Boas Tiago, vais trazer o chapéu selecionador do Harry Potter? Parece um set incrivel
Talvez... 👀