Super expensive Ferretti Yacht motherboard Repair - Urgent 3 hours service request.
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I'm a mechanic, we usually just get new or remanufactured modules. Never thought to send a board out for repairs. I'm so used to dealing with the manufacturer and aftermarket that it never crossed my mind. Some are very expensive. Might be worth having repaired. Not to mention that it can take weeks to aquire sometimes.
the biggest issue with a lot of automotive electronics is the presence of potting compounds, conformal coatings (principally for environmental and anti-explosion concerns - keeping the weather out and fire in) and a host of anti-tamper measures generally making them a bear to work on. if you consider the labour required to curcumvent those, diagnose and repair the fault THEN return it to OE standards... is probably why you don't see a lot of refurbished ECU's about, particularly when there's the option of buying them from breakers.
also, from experience trying to repair a potted/coated PCB is the stuff of nightmares, it's really hard work not to do more damage to the board and/or components just removing the stuff.
This is how my brother became successful doing 1 man plant repairs. He could fix things in a couple of days that other service centers would take weeks to do.
@@kaelin000 yep, the conformal coating is a big pain in the ass. Some boards are just dipped in simple varnish(Valeo/Aptive BSI boards), some are coated with silicone(Hirschmann boards in the BMW sharkfin antennas), but the new standard is epoxy resin. The new Valeo windshield wiper motor assys are filled with epoxy resin. The motor housing contains the relay and the electronic board for the timed wiping and the rain sensor. If the relay fails(which are usually do), then you need to replace the whole assembly with the perfectly fine motor and electronics.
Parrts for these sorts of ships are usually one offs and t is a bit hard to find replacement parts for.
It would helpful if manufacturers released service manuals.
Those Ferretti yachts cost around $1m a shot, so the owner can probably well afford a ‘super expedited service’ fee :-) The control panel incorporates a wireless link to a pendant controller for the engines and side thrusters which is worn on a lanyard around your neck, so the boat owner can reverse the craft into a tight mooring space while standing away from the helm.
Not that much better than the boat in my back yard. I bet that guy also has problems and isn't all that happy. Oh well...
@@filips7158after talking to multiple boat owners I can happily say I probably will never buy one. Not too interested in the hobby but more power to those who enjoy it🤘🏾.
@@filips7158 Can't spell assume without ass...
Better use logitech bluetooth controller 😅
@@filips7158 just a big hole in the water to throw money into...lol!
Who doesn't love a "money is no object" customer?
If there is any indicator that you are the man, it's when you are sought out by this type of customer.
I hate being that customer...
These are usually the worst people to deal with ... unrealistic expectations and they think you "owe" them when its said and done ... unless the dude didn't actually say that and he's just rich as f*ck
@@johnh1353 -> Ferretti Yacht, just let that SINK :D
Worst customers are the ones that say that, tell you whats wrong with whatever you are working on, and give you the parts.
@@johnh1353 If you agreed to do the job then, yes, you validated the expectations and now do owe it to them.
You are clearly building a reputation in the PCB Repair circle, where those responsible for 100s of Thousand Dollars worth of Machinery are turning to you for repairs of such items.... To think - just how far you have come in such a short period of time is quite amazing... That RTX 1070 of your's that needed repair during Covid was a God send.
What gpu is an rtx 1070?
@@user-fi5hc9um6q gtx 1070, still a workhorse of a GPU
rtx lol
Can't get enough of your videos. I could watch full work-day-long videos of your repairs 😂
Yeah Alex should live streaming 😅
Thanks for fixing my board. Was very pleased
Hopefully dude fixed whatever caused those ICs to blow in the first place.. other wise its just gonna happen again
Yeah they did look stinky! A bit of juice came through them
yeah i was thinking the same@@theanimalchannel-og9wt
i was thinking the same.
I had exactly the same thought. Why did they blow in the first place?
Maybe he shorted some wires while doing some work. Happened to me once when I mixed up the colors of the wires.
"The crooked pad will still make the boat go straight" 💀😂
I've repaired a similar output stage on a board for a nearby farmer's John Deere years ago. The cable leading to a solenoid next to the plow was just shorted to ground because of mechanical damage. The guy fixed the cable and I replaced the failed transistor and I also had to repair the PCB with a bypass wire. As I know, he's still using that tractor on his field. So I think the yacht owner will be also satisfied, as I think, there was a similar problem on the vehicle.
@@DR_1_1 lightning strike is fairly common
That low melting point solder is so satisfying ❤
I’m a technician for a certain fast food chain, a lot of our boards are going down on all our equipment and we usually junk the boards and replace (1,100 per board), if you see a big order from your store; you’ll know the request I submitted got approved 👍
I haven't done any work like this for a while, am fully equipped tough. And watching you work gives me the itch to get back to it again 😄
aching for lead poisoning, are ya?
@@lolbotswhat?
I have no idea what you did but i love using electronics as a consumer and i was in awe watching your skills on display. You are the Man!
It is so good watching an expert like you work
Perfect upload timing. I was just looking for something awesome to watch!
Just sat down with my breakfast doing the same thing!
Neither do I 😅
Me too !!!
I really enjoy these soldering videos. I attempted to teach myself soldering (this was years before the public internet) for plumbing pipes and also electronics. I did buy a few very good books that coverred soldering. Anyway, all I did was make a big mess, I just gave up after a few attempts because I didn't have an actual project I needed to get done.
Beautifully done. Hats off to you buddy!
youre doing all work for that guy from now on ....awesome work brother hell see it like night and day ..congrats on the new client
I like how the channel author manages to avoid the long investigations on the boards and concentrates on the ones where the job is clear. We don't see what's behind the scene ofc but that's actually smart (or so it appears)
Nice job! I thought there was going to be a torn pad or two as burn't as it looked. Low melt solder is awesome as is your skills.
i used to work as an Engineer for big electronic contract manufacturer, the ladies that does rework have amazing skills.
Ladies more slender fingers are frequently more useful in such work. ME here that started as an EE, and worked for several companies where electronics & microelectronics utilized women as the primary line workers. Excellent skills those women had.
It's really special watching a human being reach the highest level of a certain skill and then show their craft to the world. Narrow talent is a just beautiful
Somebody has a date with their mistress tomorrow!
Really enjoy your instructional videos!
Endlessly fascinating to watch this! You've inspired me to take an electronics class!
Alex sir so happy to work on the big boards got rid of repairs on those regular smd's for a while😊
Another nice job Alex. Hopefully the circuit on that 3rd pad from the left that was damaged was still making a connection.
What i would like to see, if the customer agrees of course, is that when you fix a board like this which you cant test. That the person who brought it in makes a short vid of it actually working in the vehicle or device they put it into.. Not sure how this would work but there might be customers up for it as they probably heard of you through word of mouth or youtube. (maybe give them a small discount)
Super idea, especially this one.
I must also admit, id love to see which yacht this board ends up in. Would love a mini video of them installing it back onto the yacht tbh xD
These people don't film for discount
love this guys work very smart indeed and i could never understand why people would ever be unhappy with him and his repairs or stuff he just could not fix and he is straight forward with his customers
That's because he also charges for a no-fix.
Very professional looking finish. I am impressed. Job very well done. Camera work excellent as is the audio.
You are very professional and a good teacher. Kind regards.
About the only time in life you'd be happy paying premium for three hours and only getting 16 minutes :D Enjoyed seeing something a bit bigger, and the challenges that brought. Wouldn't have thought to snip the pins, I'll remember that. Nice.
I have little to no idea what I am looking at during certain times of the video, but I thoroughly enjoy this type of content by you. 10/10 as always!
Thanks for picking up where Rossman left off. Stellar job!
Flux and low melt solder have been my friends. Nice repair.
Simply amazing, your skills make it look so easy.
It's truly amazing to witness your capabilities. If we were to establish the concept of CZcams mentors, I must say, you would undoubtedly stand out as the finest mentor I've ever had. I extend my heartfelt gratitude for the tireless effort you invest in disseminating your extensive knowledge. Your humility is evident, never seeking self-aggrandizement or anything in return.
My wife and I firmly believe in the power of spreading positive influence, whether it pertains to refining social skills or, in your case, generously sharing years of experience and wisdom. I may not have an exact grasp of the duration you've been engaged in this noble endeavor, but I am acutely aware that the process of accumulating such a wealth of knowledge would demand a significant investment of time-potentially up to two decades-if I were to tread that path independently.
Thank you for making a profound impact, one that transcends cultural boundaries and languages.
I thought that was a new board until I realised you managed to reseat that crooked tab, wow! Great work!
Wow. so that was amazing. thank you. I burnt my board soldering an electrical tester. it was our final exam in soldering course as part of electronics core. that was over 20 yrs ago. fun video. brings back memories of school.
You know they're paying Alex a boat load of money when he holds the board up very carefully with shaky hands haha. But serious chat, you do amazing work and the pun was definitely intended.
100%. I asked everyone to stay at least 100ft away from me while working on the board.
A yacht load of money
@@NorthridgeFix man all those ribbon cables hanging off made me nervous.
When you stated the component was fused to the board, I heart sank for the customer. I was glad when you removed the part without incident. Great job, Alex.
Yeah, what an awful day it would be for them not to go out on their multi million dollar yacht lol
@@zqzjlmao
@@zqzj I don't covet or envy someone because they have more money than I. He's just another customer needing a part fixed. I don't care if he's rich.
why he can afford a new board....
@@TermitesRGood1 do you think if he ordered a new board he'd get it within three hours?
Beautiful to watch you work....
You’re doing great , I’m getting there myself .
You’r a real Artist 🙏
The only thing I understood was it was a Ferretti motherboard. The rest was totally incomprehensible to a non-techie, but the video was absolutely fascinating. The skill and precision it takes to repair these components is amazing.
this is the "explain in fortnite terms" trend, but nice haha
A very satisfying fix Alex.
I hope the customer orders genuine versions of those components from a reputable supplier to have on hand in case the knockoff ones fail, for the next repair. But they may not even know that ordering something with the same number from Ama*** is not the same as ordering it from Digikey/Mouser/whatever.
The box they were in was labeled kinda sketch.
nice job as always wish you all the best
This is the only channel on CZcams that can turn chicken shit into chicken soup! Excellent work! It really is better than factory.
well done, cant wait to get some stuff form your online store
another perfect fix! good job
I love your videos. You are a magician electrician technician
Great job Alex !
that's clean. and money was no object. *and* customer provided the parts. how awesome was that? that's awesome, *that's* how awesome that was. that was an extra weeks worth of vacation is how awesome that was. that's why you got into this business, is how awesome that was.
You do gorgeous work, pls keep the vids coming
Beautiful work.
What about a quick test measurement on an obvious short that may has caused the issue? Maybe ist only a shorted cap or something...
You only do what the customer requests, anything else is folly.
@@Paperghost Ooo we a have a half ass'r in the comments...
@VashStarwind without schematics you'd just be guessing. Hopefully a boat tech that can get a board repaired can also understand wider electronics repair on the other boat equipment that probably caused this failure.
Short didn't cause that. Reversed polarity caused it.
If the customer is requesting to change specific components then it is assumed that the customer knows what the issue is and your job is to change the components as requested. 🤷♂️ That’s what they’re paying. Not for diagnosis.
Bro I run a super small marine electronics company out of New orleans, I'm always pulling broken gear off of vessels. If you ever want an old radar system, transducer depth system or old marine display to have for a repair video for free to keep and play with let me know I'll save you the next one I pull off.
Well done ❤.. its been 3 year watching your vedios ❤😊 all are very informative 👏
You make it look so easy.
its really a lot easier than you think. having the correct tools makes a huge difference. experience is secondary. you can find boards in just about any broken electronics to practice desoldering and removing components ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Amazing work.
OK so delicate second-stage physical repair. It's the fault-finding I find interesting. My lesson from this is about using low-melt solder to help desolder.
These are why I love your videos, never know what your going to get 😂
Amazing as usual!
In the marine business, money talks. Anything associated with the ocean cost two times more than on land.
Thanks for the video Alex.
And three (or more) times airborne!
@@MiGujack3 *Ha, ha! So right!*
5x!!!!$$$$$😂😂😂
Loved the video Alex. "Where is solder when you need it". Yep. Not on the iron, that's for sure.
When soldering tabs on the power supply, you must make sure that the TAB is fully soldered to the pad on the PCB. This both for conductivity and for heat transfer. A little dab of solder paste on the PAD should do the trick as capillary action can not be counted on with such heat slugs.
Now about the engineer who designed the board. Those parts are severely under heat sinked for the size loads that the part is designed for. The engineer may have made the right calculations if the load may be significantly less than the part is capable of.
That's what the hot air tool was for. With the flux under the thermal pad, the solder would have wicked along the entire length of the metal interface.
"A crooked pad will still make the boat go straight" ... philosophical stuff right there
I hope he takes the Northridge Family on a day out on the Yacht after this super service.
Good job mate 👍
Mind playing tricks, when Alex first used hot air and mentioned the smell it's like I could literally smell it. If you know you know! You just don't forget that charred board smell! It's no telling what that control board cost💲
Nice work!
1million apparently it controls nearly all motor and thrust ect on a super yacht
great video!
Great stuff ! would be nice with feedback from customers. 👍
Low-melt solder is nice. I have used low-melt solder from NRF.
nice work man!!
Very dicey! More power to you for doing this repair. I would have refused it. Any other failed components?
Words of wisdom "A crooked pad will still make the boat go straight" 😂🤣
I usually go over a lot of my boards w/ 99% iso --- and a soft toothbrush.
I find that it does a much better job than a q-tip/swab
Marine boards are conformal coated. That bad smell was weeks ticking off of your life. Hope you're in a well ventilated place.
prolly not....with $ 1000's on the line and hours to repair, common sence health and fans take a second place
Those BTS442e2 are SMART high side switches with overload over heat over current and all sorts of protection .none of which worked.
It's lucky the customer has tested the drivers and bias components before supplying only the output devices. I'd expect a cascade failure when there's that much destruction. I guess they were going to test it back on the yacht and find out if they had fixed the over-current situation
I love these types of computers!
Thanks for the video =)
Amazing skill 👏👏👏👏
He's smiling a lot, cuz he knows he'll get a lot of money ;)
I have been fixing my own electronics for years. Didn't realize I could turn it into a job. That's awesome. Cool video.
What an absolute boss
Thanks - soft solder and flux magic on a set of BTS 442 E2 Infineon Technologies' Smart Highside Power Switches. If curious, you can search for an application note describing common use in automotive (& marine apparently) design to switch 12 volt battery loads.
A board repair on a connected ribbon cable you sir are a pro.
Thanks!
Low melt splder is amazing
Your work is top notch so clean wow, man you can compete with a PCB assembly robot,so great.
And i learn so much in my repair shop where i fix everything electronic....
When I was in the Army I was a 27E, one of the only MOS at the time that repaired its own test equipment. I worked on Dragon, Tow, Javelin launcher's and trackers. I could repair a lot of the equipment and yet there was still stuff I sent to be repaired by civilians. This is what I imagine the civilians did.
Clean Job 👍🏻👌🏻
We know what those emojis mean...
Something about it looks so pretty too me - with the solder and the flux and the flow - LoL !!
20 years ago we had a rare old cnc machine Mobo go out. Only one was sourced in Israel, so a (un) lucky employee with a passport got to fly to Israel, get handed a Mobo box , and get back on a plane for return...as I recall, it was $8000 for the trip and fees. and another $10,000 for board. Production line was $38,000 an hour lost revenue.
When our lasers went out , a service man from AUSTRALIA would fly out ASAP overnight and stay till job was done , then go back to OZ. Now we have you to call! Nice.
Subscribing right now.
Wonder what the hell happened to this board. Looked like someone had set off literal fireworks next to each of the components.
From the title alone i already knew what would be said
"Money is no issue get it done today"
Words from the owner and crews and maintenance people of every yacht ever - i deal with them quite often in my trade, and have pulled some impressive hail mary's to get things done. I also take tips 🙂
That said half the time they want pure unobtainium from a small country across the globe NDA'd and its wild.
15:09 solid moment
Solid... Solid . Solid... Solid.. super solid..