What Happened To The Jurassic World Trilogy?

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  • čas přidán 11. 02. 2024
  • The Jurassic World trilogy started off very strong in 2015. The Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard led movie was the 3rd highest grossing film of all time and everyone thought JURASSIC PARK IS BACK! But over the next few years Fallen Kingdom and Dominion proved to be very underwhelming and even people that loved what was done earlier started to grow upset with the direction of the dinosaur franchise. So what happened? Why did the new Dino series start to have a critical and commercial decline and what can they do to fix this situation?
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  • @williamwilliams4391
    @williamwilliams4391 Před 4 měsíci +906

    To me, aside from the writing, the biggest issue for me is the lack of threat and danger. Raptors and many other dinos, even herbivores, would kill you in an instant. Now theyre like a major characters and completely tame. These are wild animals but now theyre like pets.

    • @KlaymenDel
      @KlaymenDel Před 4 měsíci +106

      As soon as they gave Raptors names and made them heroic it was over

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 4 měsíci +76

      Pay attention to the first Jurassic World, and you’ll see that’s not even remotely true. The raptors are vicious and deadly to literally anyone outside of Owen Grady. The other two films though…

    • @straightjacket308
      @straightjacket308 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Yo! Love your profile pic!!!

    • @gamemasterxtreme
      @gamemasterxtreme Před 4 měsíci +16

      I feel like they listened to the complaints about dinosaurs just being animals too well. Its also my issue with Prehistoric planet
      I’m not asking for like brainless 65 style dinosaurs but dont pretend an animal , let alone a dinosaur , doesnt need alot of reasons to kill you.

    • @gamemasterxtreme
      @gamemasterxtreme Před 4 měsíci +25

      @@KlaymenDel you can still have named dinosaurs have have them a threat. The first World movie stressed Owen didnt have control over them , only their trust which aside from Blue, was extremely shaky and they did initially side with the Indominus as the new pack leader

  • @christiangonzalez8542
    @christiangonzalez8542 Před 4 měsíci +485

    For me Dominion failed cause the plot didn’t have anything to do with the dinosaurs, they were just there.

    • @habadasheryjones
      @habadasheryjones Před 4 měsíci +73

      They put two movies worth of plot to bring the dinosaurs to the mainland and then the third movie has absolutely nothing to say about the horror of humans living alongside them. Its why the trilogy is so stupid and pointless to me.

    • @fotzegamingandmedia1840
      @fotzegamingandmedia1840 Před 4 měsíci +13

      IS that the ONLY reason you can think of for why that film doesn't work?

    • @SpyderDan1985
      @SpyderDan1985 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ⁠absolutely

    • @19DESERTFOX91
      @19DESERTFOX91 Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@fotzegamingandmedia1840 that's like saying is poop in your ice cream the ONLY reason you don't like the flavor? that one reason kills all the good.... well imo there wasn't much good in the movie anyway, but i wont rant forever lol. Just remember its called Jurassic park not Jurassic Locust. The movie is literally not about dinosaurs let alone on the mainland as the director said multiple times.

    • @mathewbowman2289
      @mathewbowman2289 Před 4 měsíci +14

      ​@@fotzegamingandmedia1840Yes, if I want to watch a movie about dinosaurs, I expect the plot to be about the dinosaurs.

  • @RotGoblin
    @RotGoblin Před 4 měsíci +452

    For me it's pretty simple, in the Jurassic Park movies the dinosaurs were the stars, in the Jurassic World movies, they tried to make them action movies with action heroes being the stars.
    They forgot what made them Jurassic movies.

    • @habadasheryjones
      @habadasheryjones Před 4 měsíci +47

      Remember when in the first couple Jurassic Park (not World) films when they portrayed the t rex as a wild animal with no sense of morality that didn't seemingly exist to fight alongside the human protagonists in the climatic finale all the time?
      I really think Michael Crichton is eternally spinning in his grave and this trilogy is why.

    • @stewyyishim
      @stewyyishim Před 4 měsíci +12

      i wouldn’t call the dinosaurs the stars in the jp movies, especially not in the first movie

    • @RotGoblin
      @RotGoblin Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@stewyyishim The raptors were clearly the stars of the first movie.

    • @RotGoblin
      @RotGoblin Před 4 měsíci +19

      @@habadasheryjones Right?!? Further enhanced in Lost World by displaying parental behaviour etc.
      I miss the dinosaurs being dinosaurs, instead of being mutated and trained weapons.

    • @fredricks8701
      @fredricks8701 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Yeah, this trilogy felt more Indiana Jones than Jurassic Park.

  • @ironman6527
    @ironman6527 Před 4 měsíci +128

    Ended up with too many cooks in the kitchen by the sound of it.

    • @chris.shamblin
      @chris.shamblin Před 4 měsíci +22

      Too many raptors in the kitchen.

    • @Texasmule
      @Texasmule Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@chris.shamblin Lel

    • @darkaoshi27
      @darkaoshi27 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Oh, gods. Too Many Cooks.
      It's stuck in my head again.
      WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!!

  • @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten
    @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten Před 4 měsíci +211

    I didn't mind JW 1 and 2. But I feel like they were setting up this Arc with Henry Wu as the main villain (even in Camp Cretaceous he was one of the main villains), and all of a sudden he's good in Dominion? Very unsatisfying. We didn't even get a redemption Arc.

    • @dereklopez9060
      @dereklopez9060 Před 4 měsíci +28

      Could you imagine if Dr Wu was killed by the Pyroraptor and he dies the same way he died in the novel.

    • @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten
      @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​​@@dereklopez9060 I was hoping for it, honestly. But they basically rehashed deaths from the first movie with other characters (Dodgson).

    • @dereklopez9060
      @dereklopez9060 Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten Yeah pretty much. There's hardly any deaths in Dominion which is one of the problems I have with the movie. Good guys don't die, only the bad guys. No wonder why the stakes feel nonexistent.

    • @Hollywood113807
      @Hollywood113807 Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten I was so hopeful they would use Nedrys book death for Dodgson

    • @Notthecobracommander
      @Notthecobracommander Před 4 měsíci +1

      They could not kill him or make him the villan because he is a minority and that would send the wrong message............. I agree camp cretaceous actually utilized him In a good way as the villan.

  • @iliasgold4284
    @iliasgold4284 Před 4 měsíci +307

    Turning the velociraptors into pets was the worst idea in a long list of bad ideas ....

    • @reign663
      @reign663 Před 4 měsíci +30

      And I’m gonna be there when you learn that - Ian Malcom 🎉

    • @stewyyishim
      @stewyyishim Před 4 měsíci +12

      wasn’t that the point of jurassic world? it was obviously shown to backfire, it’s not like it succeeded or anything

    • @roddur1000
      @roddur1000 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@stewyyishim backfired so much they just coexisted in peace in the last movie

    • @tturi2
      @tturi2 Před 4 měsíci +11

      I'm sure it would be possible irl, but the overarching problem is that all animals in the franchise are either heat missiles or super murder machines to the level of alien xenomorphs

    • @ArtemisDalmasca
      @ArtemisDalmasca Před 4 měsíci +4

      It really, really was. The only kinda cool (and I say that with air quotes) thing about that development in the first JW movie is that it seems to play off what Dr. Grant said in JP3: "They were smarter than dolphins or whales... They were smarter than primates."
      It makes sense that any big gov military listening to that would make it a stipulation of trying it if the park was ever started again.
      It doesn't make it a good arc, it really would've been better had the raptors stayed wild... But it's kinda a neat progression

  • @RulerOfYore
    @RulerOfYore Před 4 měsíci +24

    Fun Fact: Zara’s death and the reaction to it made the writers promise only to kill off the bad guys.
    So when you wonder why the characters are never in any real danger that’s why.

    • @spiritvdc5109
      @spiritvdc5109 Před 7 dny

      once again a big company takes the wrong lesson from their fans' backlash and makes the product worse

  • @chris.shamblin
    @chris.shamblin Před 4 měsíci +101

    Dominion committed the biggest sin in the franchise - it teased a premise that fans have wanted to see for decades, and then just…didn’t do it, for some inexplicable reason. I think fans could have forgiven a messy, imperfect execution of the dinosaurs-in-the-world story far more easily than they could forgive such an egregious bait-and-switch.
    I’m saying this as someone who actually liked the locust storyline more than the dinosaur storyline, too. Dominion made maybe the most baffling story decision I’ve seen in a blockbuster by not being about what the entire franchise set it up to be about.

    • @Telepather
      @Telepather Před 4 měsíci +5

      It's probably because of whiners who complained about the last half of The Lost World.

    • @deltasweetashoney8880
      @deltasweetashoney8880 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@TelepatherI will never understand those complaints I absolutely adore the stupidness and fun of the T. rex sure it made little sense but it enjoyable, then again maybe I’m blinded by nostalgia.

  • @NathanSpies
    @NathanSpies Před 4 měsíci +161

    I believe the reason the Jurassic world trilogy ended up the way it did is all universal’s fault
    I guarantee universal put a ton of restrictions on the filmmakers and made them “play it safe”. Like how only villians can die not “good guy” characters
    I think if universal didn’t interfere with the creative process the trilogy would’ve been better

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +25

      Yeap, They did it for kids. Thats why the violence feel like a Marvel movie.

    • @bretbuckley704
      @bretbuckley704 Před 4 měsíci +27

      @@chazchaz2121 Yup...I keep saying this. We really, REALLY need to stop watering these franchises down for the sake of appealing to kids. It makes franchises feel so compromised, soulless, lackluster, and devoid of what made them special in the first place.

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 Před 4 měsíci

      and its not gonna stop now that we have the streaming services kneecaping the money brought in so they execs are gonna double down on that junk

    • @hanburgundy4317
      @hanburgundy4317 Před 4 měsíci +18

      I first saw Jurassic Park when I was seven, and it made me fall in love with dinosaurs even more. Kids can handle horror.

    • @covahredro8370
      @covahredro8370 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@bretbuckley704 My nephew is was only 4 or 5 when he first watched the Jurassic movies and he was rooting for the carnivores. Just recently for his 7th birthday he wanted an I-Rex he saw while shopping, so they got it for him. But then he want some human characters for it to eat.

  • @KamenRiderGumo
    @KamenRiderGumo Před 4 měsíci +153

    If you remove the locust storyline and the retconning of Maisie being cloned by Lockwood after his daughter died, it would have been a much better movie. Not perfect, but watchable. The clone storyline was the most intriguing plot thread from Fallen Kingdom and I was disappointed that they backpedaled on it.

    • @LpsfudgeandMlpTV
      @LpsfudgeandMlpTV Před 4 měsíci +22

      Agreed, I really felt that the Jurrassic world trilogy was building up to a big war to do with genetic power. While Fallen Kindom was definitely not a great movie, I think had Dominion been this big Pay off of a finale to something that even the Jurrassic park trilogy has been teasing at, it's flaws wouldn't have stood out as much. They spent 5 films telling us that Humans and Dinosaurs cannot co exist sustainably. But then in Dominion, it's like nothing even happens when that warning becomes reality. Even the name of the Trilogy implied that the final film would be this terrifying warning come true. And thats why I also think the first film did so well. It would've been a good bridge from the self contained Jurrassic Park movies, all taking place in parks on remote islands and now evolving into Dinosaurs taking over our world in some way. The whole Locus thing, couldve been something for a spin off show to expand the universe or whatever. But the main plot should've had Jurrassic Genetic power, evolving into something that can no longer be contained or controlled at the centre of it, not just little sub plots to waste tome and still fit in with the fact that the trilogy is supposed to be about Dinosaurs. We could've had a really cool apocolyptic dystopian kindof movie where humans can't control the genetic power they released into the world. But instead we got a movie about a capitalist genetic company and theres just a hunch of Dinosaurs chilling??? I just feel like it had so many writers that all wanted to take the story in different ways. It was alright with Jurrassic Park 3 because that wasn't meant to be this big grand finale that had had all this build up, but Dominion should've been well thought out far in advance, in the same way Harry Potter was or how Kevin Feigie planned everything out upto endgame with a clear plan that had little change.

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +16

      Gotta say in a name like Jurassic World.. a human clone plot was going nowhere... how about the impact of dinosaurs outside in the World which is in the title and a theme they talk about in the novels... instead they were replaced with locusts (you are totally right this wasn't necessary) and another Island plot basically.

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Your right on the the clone bit but the stuff with the locusts is ultiamtely in lin with what the whole series is about.

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Sure, the novel is the same, they copied that plot structure from there but instead of locust... children-eating Compys... Do you really prefer locusts in a movie about dinosaurs?
      Why don´t use dinosaurs? in the book they also carried a prion disease (that is actually grounded in reality) deeply related to the concept of humans trying to be Gods..., it´s amazing actually if they went that route.
      But they use some insects... like is almost like they want to get people mad.

    • @roddur1000
      @roddur1000 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@theliato3809 yea the whole series is about big locusts bro, not even prehistoric locusts, just modern ones

  • @andrewsmallacombe9468
    @andrewsmallacombe9468 Před 4 měsíci +25

    Issues with Dominion:
    * Plot conveniences. People just happen to bump into the only other person on the planet that can help them.
    * Retconning Maisy. The big reveal that she is a clone is suddenly revealed to be false, and instead she is the virgin birth of a super genius. Who one of the characters conveniently met once. (If course a paleobotonist is going to know geneticists because... reasons)
    * The failure to get off the island. The Biosyn Valley is effectively an island.
    * Giant locusts that are simultaneously inflammable AND fireproof. And can't die. Because reasons.
    * Let's bring all the dinosaurs into this tight space. Even though much of the valley is depicted as damp and therefore unlikely to burn.
    * The need to have an even bigger theropod. Just to beat up the T-rex.
    * Only baddies die by dinosaur.
    * A villain who poses no threat.
    * Kidnapping Maisy because reasons.
    * Blue the pet.
    * No major human vs dinosaur conflict. (Where are various military forces?)
    * No weight or consequences.
    * Probably half a dozen other points I missed.

    • @Casual_guy1234
      @Casual_guy1234 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Issues with Jurassic park
      - you thinking there's actually issues

    • @SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH
      @SETTHENIGHTONFIYAHH Před 2 měsíci

      I think the real issues are that the dinosaurs arent really expected to kill the goodfellas​@@Casual_guy1234

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo Před 14 dny

      Eh? no Maisie is still a clone of sorts. Extra info isn't a retcon.

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo Před 14 dny

      Actually just reading yer points i feel like you just didn't pay attention to this movie. Like the villian who poses no threat? So? Incompetance is shown time and time again to be a problem and a threat. As well as hubris.
      oir this point haha "Let's bring all the dinosaurs into this tight space. Even though much of the valley is depicted as damp and therefore unlikely to burn." Literally shows the forrest burning down, do you think forrest can't burn? Even wet ones can set on fire.
      Go thsi is like some of the earlier comments on the second STar wars film and the lack of understanding in how the space scene work. Folk who are dumb should just shut up.

  • @Dekead1930
    @Dekead1930 Před 4 měsíci +81

    Glad David Koepp is doing the next one. Hollywood is severely lacking in talented screenwriters

    • @ensk815
      @ensk815 Před 4 měsíci +20

      Hollywood is lacking in competency in general, especially among writers

    • @habadasheryjones
      @habadasheryjones Před 4 měsíci +10

      I'm not holding my breath for a good Jurassic film. I'm certain they'll find some way to screw it up just like they did the premise of dinos on the mainland.

    • @maxpayne69.
      @maxpayne69. Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@habadasheryjonesyes , same here but I got my fingers crossed 🤞🏼
      Koepp does have some elements of Crichton like writing in one of his more recent novels I read (Aurora), one can only hope 😅🥲🙏🏼
      P.s - interesting your pic & my profile name 😂

    • @OwlEye2010
      @OwlEye2010 Před 4 měsíci +3

      I wouldn't say Hollywood's lacking in talented screenwriters per say. I'd say its more of an issue with studios and executives not letting screenwriters of any caliber take risks with established franchises.

    • @Unbearable_Truth
      @Unbearable_Truth Před 4 měsíci

      Spielberg directed Lost World and that turned out garbage

  • @fisher6130
    @fisher6130 Před 4 měsíci +8

    The Dominion preview of the T-Rex at the drive in mislead me. I really wanted to see dinosaurs interacting with unsuspecting and unprepared society

  • @user-rk6fz2hz2o
    @user-rk6fz2hz2o Před 4 měsíci +24

    So many missed opportunities in Dominion. I was hoping to see a scene where Dodson told grant, Ellie, and Malcom that he orchestrated the fall of the original park. Wu should’ve died doing something heroic. And rexy should have had a shining moment, like completely demolishing the giga on her own.

    • @mikaelangehagen7251
      @mikaelangehagen7251 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Mostly agree but i think rexy and the giga should have rarely interacted, only a small fight which doesnt kill any of them. And let rexy die in some way since she is soo old and should probobly die just beacuse she is more overused then a teens willy. And let the giga do the main horror, the seen with the fire and the giga with the humans could be made to be a real horror with some changes mainly to the giga. I want the giga to be scary and powerful without fighting a rex for the 3rd time

  • @srayj
    @srayj Před 4 měsíci +16

    The funny thing is, I don’t like horror movies and yet, the original Jurassic Park was filmed and structured much more in the vein of a horror/thriller movie whereas the Jurassic World films are action/spectacle movies, even Fallen Kingdom which is closer to JP, but still misses the mark. That’s one of the things that made JP special, the awe, thrill and suspense all working together, not to mention the terror of the raptors and the build up until they’re revealed. They tried to do that with the Indominus, but it just didn’t work as well.
    The other thing I miss is the thought provoking moments from JP. The entire conversation at lunch is one of my favorite scenes in any film. We have each character getting to express themselves and share their perspective, giving us a clear view of who each of them is and why they are even there to begin with. In JW, we don’t really get that. Why does Owen, as someone who worked in the Navy, train animals? Why is he justifying his work with the raptors? If he didn’t agree with Hoskins and their possible military applications, what was motivating him? There’s also Claire. Why does she even work at JW? What does she believe about these animals? Did she care for them at one time? If so, when did she stop seeing them as animals and start seeing them as assets? Then in the subsequent films, why does she become an activist saving them? I didn’t mind JW and Fallen Kingdom has some interesting moments, but Dominion was such a disappointment.

  • @redwa11er
    @redwa11er Před 4 měsíci +8

    Wow, I totally forgot Ellie said "He slid into my DMs"

  • @andreasstavrinou6219
    @andreasstavrinou6219 Před 4 měsíci +25

    I know it's important for story purposes but having to say good bye to Isla Nublar was rough for me as a believer of Hammond's Dream.❤😂

    • @seanmckelvey6618
      @seanmckelvey6618 Před 4 měsíci +6

      The bigger issue I have is why Sorna is never properly addressed in the World movies. They basically act like it never existed.

  • @rosscooper6192
    @rosscooper6192 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Pretty straight forward. Dinosaurs are the villains in JP and JP2.
    They have over complicated the story lines since.

    • @KingRudy10
      @KingRudy10 Před 4 měsíci +10

      I disagree. They weren't the villains they were just the antagonists/obstacles in those movies. In Jp3 they were definitely villains however

    • @roddur1000
      @roddur1000 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@KingRudy10that's why I really liked jp3

    • @KingRudy10
      @KingRudy10 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@roddur1000 to each their own 🤷‍♂️

    • @dreamyoufindyou
      @dreamyoufindyou Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@KingRudy10A L A N

    • @KingRudy10
      @KingRudy10 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@dreamyoufindyou gross lol

  • @christopherbuckley5929
    @christopherbuckley5929 Před 4 měsíci +10

    13:53 still might be the most bizarre reaction to being about to die in a film I've seen recently.

    • @TheGlaSGOWSTEVE
      @TheGlaSGOWSTEVE Před 4 měsíci +2

      It's to close the circle of Nedry and Dodgson. It's poetic. Dodgson wasn't a dinosaur guy, he was (in the movies) an evil version of Hammond. He has no idea what a dilophosaurus is or how it kills and neither does Nedry. He is using the genetic engineering in the worst ways possible and which itself is a fulfilment of Malcolm's chilli and sea bass monologue from Jurassic Park.

  • @MrLynamYT
    @MrLynamYT Před 4 měsíci +48

    I honestly wouldn’t mind if J A Bayona returned to direct a new Jurassic movie with a better script, if he wants to.

    • @RotGoblin
      @RotGoblin Před 4 měsíci +8

      I thought he did a PHENOMENAL job, the directing was en-pointe.

    • @prathapkutty7407
      @prathapkutty7407 Před 4 měsíci +3

      With a great script I feel he can give us a phenomenal Jurassic World movie.

  • @RogueT-Rex8468
    @RogueT-Rex8468 Před 4 měsíci +52

    Jurassic World was good, very promising.
    Fallen Kingdom was the Lost world of the trilogy personally. I think it actually was very fun and was the last time I felt a note of Jurassic Park.
    And then…. Dominion. Just….. it tried to be- as you’ve put it- too Transformers, or as I’ve called it, The Fast and the Furious with dinosaurs.
    It lost its magic and wonder.
    They took “we want to be thrilled” way too far. Just full throttle go with no stopping to digest.
    I want wonder- the haunting pauses and mystery that dinosaurs embody. The more I see people crying out for “realism” the more I feel like they try and turn it into a circus to make it more interesting.
    The shipping, the needless meme implications, and just trying to make it a money maker backfired spectacularly…
    I want someone in the protag seat that may be WONDERED by these animals- someone with that childlike amazement by these animals. It’s the fact that these animals are treated like walking dollar signs or common zoo animals is just… it makes me as the audience feel like I should care less.
    This series needs new life breathed into it.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Před 4 měsíci +2

      there was no magic and wonder in any of the jurassic park sequels at all. only the first movie first that bill entirely.

    • @brendandulaca3147
      @brendandulaca3147 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I agree 100%.

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 4 měsíci +7

      I absolutely love Jurassic World (first film). The other two though…

    • @RotGoblin
      @RotGoblin Před 4 měsíci +3

      For me, Fallen Kingdom is the best of the World series simply because the direction felt like a Jurassic movie.
      The others simply don't.

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +6

      I feel like what people dislike the most is that there is no real danger in the new ones, only the bad characters die, I´ve never feel any character was in real danger, is less grounded in reality for sure. They feel more like a Marvel Movie than a sci-fi thriller. At least that's what bothers me. The world trilogy is a watch with your little other kind of movie.

  • @JoshO423
    @JoshO423 Před 4 měsíci +9

    It was making the film a playful adventure, like Indiana Jones randomly traveling to exotic locations for Maguffins, that caused the series downfall.

  • @rickfalk9319
    @rickfalk9319 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I probably wouldn't have been so disappointed in Dominion if we hadn't been set up for what looked to be the 'Jurassic' movie I was hoping for...Battle at Big Rock and the end of Fallen Kingdom really got my hopes up.

  • @TruePatriotGaming
    @TruePatriotGaming Před 4 měsíci +8

    I honestly couldn't agree more. When I watched Dominion I was honestly shocked at how bad the dialog was between the characters and the overall plot design. And of course we can't forget the terrible pacing of the movie, with the movie tossing back and forth of trying to be a spy movie, a fast and furious movie, then then trying to be a jurassic Park movie again, and repeating that cycle. Meanwhile if you compare the dialog and story points from the first movie, it's completely timeless. Whether you watched it back in 93 to now, it's completely timeless. The dialog doesn't try to fit it's current era, and the story overall holds up really well even to this day. Sure the tech and art design of everything may be from it's time, but its overall message and goal still holds up. Especially now with seeing all the crazy stuff coming from genetics now, it makes the whole plot of Jurassic Park hold up even more. I think too what the newer movies have lost is Crichton's way of story telling, set pieces and horror. The new movies aren't scary at all, meanwhile the older movies makes the dinosaurs an actual threat. Something the first movie did that none of the sequels have been able to do is capture that magical wonder, and they honestly never will, nor could they ever really. Instead what they need to do is, is bring back that horror element to the movies like the first and second ones did. Make the dinosaurs scary, give us an interesting plot we can get behind, and make it consistent with the story and setting. Once they can do that, then they can give us a good movie.

  • @cincin0722
    @cincin0722 Před 4 měsíci +15

    It burned up like the Hindenburg sunk like the Titanic

  • @RaptorStudios
    @RaptorStudios Před 4 měsíci +14

    Totally agree with you on this, because every movie has its problems but this is a major one for these JW movies. Also, I don’t know if anyone remembers, but there was this featurette/behind the scenes video for Fallen Kingdom where Colin actually said “I really like the scenes in Jurassic movies that don’t have dinosaurs”. I thought it was a pretty ridiculous thing to say, especially when he is directing movies for the biggest dinosaur franchise there is (and pretty much the only one!), and it totally reflected 4 years later when Dominion was about locusts and wasted the dinosaur plot.

    • @seanmckelvey6618
      @seanmckelvey6618 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Yeah, but the thing he missed there is that those scenes are only good if the writing and characters are good enough to carry such scenes. In all honesty, the actors and writing in the World movies are (mostly) not up to that task.

    • @jenniferkovalick2959
      @jenniferkovalick2959 Před 4 měsíci

      I agree. Dinosaur movies, that don't focus on the dinosaurs is a failure. That's why Dominion was so terrible. Collin's comment reminds me of when Tim Burton made the 2 Batman movies and said he didn't read comic books. It shows when a writer or director doesn't have the same care for the movies that the original team did.

  • @TobyLarwood
    @TobyLarwood Před 4 měsíci +8

    Iv'e actually got nothing to say for once. Thats how good this video is.
    Klayton, you are so under appreciated as a youtuber and I think you may actually be my favorite amongst both Swrve and Beaver. And I think that because my view of the franchise is almost directly in line with yours. Just the way you are able to clearly analyse everything and explain why you like something, why you don't like something. Why it's decent, why it's not decent, how they can improve. Heck, they let you write one for crying outload.
    And along with that, you haven't gotten carried away with all the throwbacks and the cannonical law of the franchise like Swrve has. And you also haven't fallen prey to the blindness of being 'A CZcamsR' like Beaver. Don't get me wrong, I like both of them but, It's almost like you're the chosen one in a way.
    I guess i'm just trying to say, Thankyou for this channel and all the effort you have put into it. If anything, as fans, this has really been the bridge thats connecting us to jurassic park.

    • @mattj1829
      @mattj1829 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Jesus I'd hate to see if you did have something to say if 3 paragraphs is when you have nothing to say haha!

    • @TobyLarwood
      @TobyLarwood Před 2 měsíci

      @@mattj1829 I know, I usually ramble on quite abit but thats only because i'm a hypercritic.

  • @curtismadrid5161
    @curtismadrid5161 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Hey Klatyon,
    Don't know if you'll read this or not but wanted to say first and foremost that I love your channel. I love Jurassic Park. I absolutely love all of your content.
    I was watching a video from "Shadows" on youtube about what could have possibly killed the men on the boat in the opening scene of JP3. I know you had touched on this before and the possibility of it being the pteranodons. The rips in the cloth of the ship, the blood streaks, etc. I don't remember if you touched on this or not but while watching that video the scene of Eric in the pteranodon's nest popped into my head. I remember seeing the bones and skulls of people in the nest. I haven't gone back to look how aged the bones looked, but if you haven't considered this before, I thought there is a strong case to be made that the men on the boat were taken to the nest. The only plot hole is that how did they get into the cage? We know from the end of Jurassic Park 2 that the pteranodons were already loose as they flew and landed on the branch of a tree to end the film. I am unsure of the ones trapped in the cage. When Amanda forgets to secure the gate in JP3 it's implied this is how they escape the cage and fly into the sunset to end JP3 but again, other pteranodons were already loose to end JP2. Anyways, possibly the men were flown to the cage and dropped through and the ones in the cage picked them off the ground and put their dead bodies into the nests. If the time between the parasailing accident and when Eric is in the nest is 8 weeks, then timewise it aligns with how big the baby pteranodons are when we see them. They would have been considerably smaller but may have picked at the corpses of the men.
    Anyways, I wanted to throw that theory out there if perhaps you think it's worthy of a video for your channel.
    Have a great day. Christ is King. (Thanks, by the way for continuing to put that positive energy out there for us)
    Curtis Madrid

  • @mikesantillanmx5530
    @mikesantillanmx5530 Před 4 měsíci +36

    I love the first two Jurassic World films. The third one was enjoyable to me, but I felt it was not focused on the dinosaurs.

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Watchable movies to see with your little brother for sure. But I think people want a little more than that right now

  • @jessehutchings
    @jessehutchings Před 4 měsíci +5

    Here's my grand take. Hollywood as an industry has lost touch with script writing, especially dialog writing and character development, that convinces us to love and care about the characters. Think about it. You can have a PREPOSTEROUS movie plot and unrealistic out of left field NONSENSE that happens in your movie but if the CHARACTERS are well written, fun, lovable, inspiring, cool, etc. audiences won't give AF about loose ends, skipped plot points or whatever. We want well directed scenes that capture our attention and unforgettable characters.

  • @madcapmakov2
    @madcapmakov2 Před 4 měsíci

    I love your video presentation. Those cool layer filter effects in those movie stills you got. Neat touch!

  • @calebprescott440
    @calebprescott440 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I actually like the Jurassic World trilogy I don’t care what people say it was better than Disney Star Wars trilogy

    • @Tipsy.42
      @Tipsy.42 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Facts

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +6

      That is not a hard bargain. Some low expectations right there and they are watchable, especially for kids.
      But people want something more than that right now

    • @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten
      @RebekahMartinModernJaneAusten Před 4 měsíci +8

      That's a very low bar.

    • @steriskyline4470
      @steriskyline4470 Před 4 měsíci

      Thats like saying I'd rather be punched in the balls rather than kicked in the balls please

    • @MrStrangermoon
      @MrStrangermoon Před 4 měsíci

      in total agree but ıthink force awakens was better than jurassic world. old sw cast was better compared what we got in dominion movie. in force awakens people are killed includin han solo with 3 planet destroyerd. in jurassic world not that scary things happen only swat team diead and uncessery helicopter down. force awakens was carpon copy of new hope movie but jurassic world not match with jurassi park movie at all.

  • @r3gulat0r
    @r3gulat0r Před 4 měsíci +13

    hopefully colin trevorrow is not coming back. there's a reason he was canceled for Star Wars. and screewriters also were bad

  • @GaryIsabelle
    @GaryIsabelle Před 4 měsíci

    i'm glad you were able to take time and put your thoughts together.

  • @T0nKaM0E
    @T0nKaM0E Před 4 měsíci +3

    Man you had a lot to say about JP saga. A very good video my man.

  • @Strelnikov10
    @Strelnikov10 Před 4 měsíci +8

    They need a prequel to the first film. Make it about the process of developing the animals. Making it heavily dark, scientific, and mysterious. Plenty of late-80's early 90's nostalgia. Nedry, Wu, Hammond. Correspondence with Malcolm and the other consultants. Escape of animals to the mainland. Girl on the beach. Sample sent to New York. Etc. There is so much gold for a solid prequel. It would end with the investors mandating bringing experts to the park. A solid plot can be made from this material.

    • @VSMOKE1
      @VSMOKE1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I think prequels are some of the worst forms of storytelling

    • @toriaoi1695
      @toriaoi1695 Před 4 měsíci

      I've always wanted a spin-off movie about what happened aboard the SS Venture, with a similar story to Alien, but with a pack of raptors.

  • @Raptorcloak
    @Raptorcloak Před 4 měsíci +23

    Out of all the things I can't forgive about the JW trilogy, the Indoraptor getting wasted instead becoming Blue's potential pack mate in a case of nature vs nurtur concept she was raised on. And don't get me started on Dominion 😂

    • @SDPadresfan23
      @SDPadresfan23 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Imagine blue and the indorapor out in the wild, hunting.

    • @Raptorcloak
      @Raptorcloak Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@SDPadresfan23 A dozen potential ideas with the Indoraptor and they just made him monster of the week.

    • @barbaryn7899
      @barbaryn7899 Před 4 měsíci

      🤨 yo what? You think dinosaurs are going to team up like ninja turtles? Dumbest thing I've heard I'd rather watch a movie about locust catching on fire

  • @charlieknight5065
    @charlieknight5065 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Showing LOVE for the channel Thank You for another great video once again my friend and i completely agree and me personally im beyond excited for this new film especially knowing that the original people are vack to hopefully correct some things and hopefully putting Jurassic back into being the great franchise that it is i absolutely LOVE the Jurassic Franchise but the Jurassic World did definitely take it in a while different direction but hopefully with the original writer we're more than likely about to have our minds blown finally to possibly the greatest Jurassic film ever but we'll see either way im a fan for life but i truly hope universal does get Jurassic back on track. Thanks for another great video once again my friend and thank you for the work amd research you put into each and every video. Have a blessed day everyone

  • @genkidama7810
    @genkidama7810 Před 3 měsíci

    When you see jurassic world and especially after the indominus break out the vibe just shifts it as if we see a mega strong monster/villain just running rampant and guessing how or who would be able to stop this monster. There are several movies which portrays these super villains and the writing is so good it actually just gives off a scary vibe and keeps audiences in suspense on what happens next and the teaming up of the t rex and the velociraptor when all else fails was the best part it actually keeps audiences at the edge of their seats and its not just the way they wrote the indominus and it also goes to do with the fact how they decide to finish it off

  • @TheJmall88
    @TheJmall88 Před 4 měsíci +10

    While I don't hate any of the six Jurassic films, I love Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom is good too I do think Dominion has enjoyable moments but with the franchise the directors should've taken their time between movies and worked as a team to understand the stories between each film. The Jurassic World trilogy is far better than the Star Wars sequel trilogy though because those movies have far more problems than the Jurassic World movies, Because even though JP3 is my least favorite I can still have a good time with it. i can't stand The Last Jedi at all that movie ruined the Star Wars sequel triogy.

  • @wolfpredator155
    @wolfpredator155 Před 4 měsíci +42

    Dominion was what screwed everything up.

    • @chazchaz2121
      @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +10

      Man... a movie with World in the title that centers in an island and a Manssion? Not even the title they got right. And a dinosaur wisperer that moves like a Marvel Hero?

    • @habadasheryjones
      @habadasheryjones Před 4 měsíci +9

      Chris Pratt calming dinos with his hand up, villains using dinos for military applications, human clones, bad humor. Dominion made me understand that this trilogy was always stupid and I just gave World and Fallen Kingdom too much credit.

    • @Anytyme06
      @Anytyme06 Před 4 měsíci +1

      It was screwed up since the second Jurassic Park movie. The last 5 movies were awful.

    • @dreamyoufindyou
      @dreamyoufindyou Před 4 měsíci

      @@habadasheryjones* Chrisp Ratt

  • @brendandulaca3147
    @brendandulaca3147 Před 4 měsíci +9

    For me personally, I still very much enjoy both Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom. Dominion is honestly where I feel things *REALLY* went downhill. Fallen Kingdom may have it's issues, but there's enough enjoyability in the film that I can look past most of the flaws. But Dominion doesn't get that luxury. There are things I do like about Dominion, I won't lie, but the movie has way too many problems that are hard to ignore. Poor pacing (Especially the theatrical version), less than stellar dialogue, and a lack of stakes make the film feel too messy. Overall, I think they definitely need to ground the franchise more and bring back that flare the original films had, which it seems like they're trying to do.
    As a bonus talk, the first three Camp Cretaceous seasons are still really good. And then they decided robots were a good idea.

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Underrated comment

    • @brendandulaca3147
      @brendandulaca3147 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Mobius118 I appreciate the feedback!! 🙂

    • @ferociousrazordino3581
      @ferociousrazordino3581 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Completly agree

    • @juliancaraveo5700
      @juliancaraveo5700 Před 4 měsíci +2

      And mind control chips.
      I mean the whole point is that " you can't control nature" and it basically ruins the scene where Ellie Sattler says " You never had control that's the illusion".

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 4 měsíci

      @@brendandulaca3147Happy to help!

  • @BuIIy_Maguire
    @BuIIy_Maguire Před 4 měsíci +16

    Imo the only really good parts of the JW trilogy would be Jurassic World (2015), BaBR and Camp Cretaceous seasons 1-3.

    • @chingandhanji
      @chingandhanji Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yeah I loved the first JW

    • @seanmckelvey6618
      @seanmckelvey6618 Před 4 měsíci +2

      In hindsight, BaBR was the closest thing in tone to what I would want from a Jurassic project going forward.

  • @dallionaire8947
    @dallionaire8947 Před 4 měsíci +6

    The fact that fallen kingdom has such low sales shows what a failure world was.
    IMO - they should never try to make “friends” with the raptors. No real danger. The whole JW series was just a failure

  • @F.Taborsky
    @F.Taborsky Před 4 měsíci +5

    I think that the direction where Jurassic franchise was taken during the whole "World saga" as it is trying to convince us that treating and using animals and adding "more teeth" just for money is bad and always ends up disasteously is now perfectly mirroring the recent "efforts" of it's creators and unfortunatelly the whole qualitatively decresing franchise itself...

  • @LBTElectricDinoOnline
    @LBTElectricDinoOnline Před 4 měsíci +7

    Great video explaining of what Happened to the Jurassic World Trilogy and I pretty much agree with your points on the Jurassic World Trilogy and how things could’ve been different and a lot more and great work analyzing of how the Jurassic World Franchise could’ve been a lot more and Life Definitely Finds A Way with this.
    I’ve been a huge Jurassic World Fan ever since 2015 with the first Jurassic World movie and 2018 with Fallen Kingdom and I love both Jurassic World and Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom which those are my personal favorites in the Jurassic World Franchise and Jurassic World Dominion was a huge disappointment and a disgrace to the franchise in my opinion and I respect those who love Jurassic World Dominion more than me.
    Hopefully, the new Jurassic Movie and the new franchise would probably do a lot better than Jurassic World Dominion because we need more dinosaur action and more dinosaur appearances.
    Great Job on this Klayton Fioriti and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.

  • @ItsGunn
    @ItsGunn Před 4 měsíci +4

    the maisie and beta eyes on me scene gave me such a viseral, deep, horrifying and sickening reaction of cringing, i wanted to walk out of dominion based off of that alone. you aint your daddy fam that raptor is not trained!!! and when they all started doing it oh my god im gonna kill someone you do not GET to have that cheesey after ive sat through scene after scene of boring locusts and "scary" dinosaurs. also OWEN ASKING IF THE GIGA WAS AN ALOSAUR? HOMIE YOUVE WORKED WITH DINOSAURS FOR YEARS AT THIS POINT AND THE PILOT KNOWS MORE THAN YOU !!! ian was literally the saving grace of that movie because i got one small giggle during the keypad scene. i want a movie where im actually worried for the main cast, not one where im chilling because iN THE END THE STUPID RAPTOR IS GONNA COME RESCUE THEM BECAUSE THEY DID STUPID HAND SIGNALS TO IT. OH MY GOD. the best part of dominion was the 30 seconds of seeing dinosaurs and animals live side by side towards the end

    • @ItsGunn
      @ItsGunn Před 4 měsíci

      and fallen kingdom? oh my GOD i just started HATING the main characters. THE DINOSAURS ARE GONNA DIE DUE TO NATURAL DISASTER. LET IT HAPPEN. WHY WOULD YOU MEDDLE AND WHY WOULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER BRINGING THEM TO THE MAINLAND. "ohh theyre all gonna die and nobody cares" PEOPLE CARE, BUT THEY ALSO ARENT GONNA GO BRING THESE MONSTERS WHICH BY THE WAY, HAVE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN THEY CAN CAUSE SEVERE DESTRUCTION ON THE MAINLAND WHEN THE REX WAS LOOSE !! BUT NOOO owen has to rescue his glorified dog and claire has to make herself feel good about herself. best scene in that was the indoraptor bedroom scene. that would have given me as much nightmares as a kid as the raptors in the kitchen scene

    • @SPRINK_GABY
      @SPRINK_GABY Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@ItsGunn
      Fallen kingdom is good he shows why this is not a good idea and the characters understand at the end.
      *See the dialogues Malcolm

  • @TheReidmeister96
    @TheReidmeister96 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Its good to know that I am not the only one who personally really enjoys The Lost World JP(2). I watched it more than the first or third growing up.

  • @theeagleitarian6039
    @theeagleitarian6039 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I am just glad the franchise is still here and there will be more. I don’t hate any of them, the biggest reason Dominion disappointed me was because whilst FK had flaws it clearly set up an interesting premise and as a middle film setting that up it was fine. Then they didn’t go into that scenario if dinosaurs living amongst us, it was back to an enclosed setting.
    Watching the extended cut knowing what I am getting I found more enjoyable whilst it’s not perfect by any means. I’ve always loved the Lost World and even JP3, there are elements in each film I get something out of.
    Hopefully they mix things up a bit with the next one, but I’d rather have some mixed feelings about the franchise and it continues to be added to than it go back into stasis again. If all it achieves is it brings new generations into the series then that’s great, more the merrier.

  • @kavehaghayazdi2576
    @kavehaghayazdi2576 Před 4 měsíci +1

    13:56 Poor Dodgson is exactly asking those dudes that what's their chip problem story.

  • @Poseidon4862.
    @Poseidon4862. Před 4 měsíci +3

    Personally, I think this video was a wake-up call for me to start looking into the writers of a movie. When it comes to telling a story, the people involved are the key resource, even over the premise or IP.

  • @johnlee8523
    @johnlee8523 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I actually liked JW/FK (don't get me started on Dominion 🤢) BUT I think you're right that the writing is off compared to the originals. Another thing is that really JW/FK are really just modern versions of JP/TLW, not that it was the worst thing to do but could have been way better.
    I'm really hoping they can get it right with the next installment and get closer to the originals but I won't hold my breath.

  • @bsharp3281
    @bsharp3281 Před 4 měsíci

    It's really good to hear a CZcamsr do a deep dive on the power of talent. Yep, "that one little adjustment" truly would have made ALL the difference.

  • @optibotimus
    @optibotimus Před 3 měsíci

    Great video on this subject that a lot of us are big fans of. One thing i've always said about why i like Jurassic Park AND the Lost World is that those movies made the dinosaurs NOT monsters. JP3 started that trend. Jurassic World went kinda back to that time when the dinosaurs weren't monsters and just were animals. Even though i didn't like the Indominus Rex....it was still just an animal trying to figure out it's place in nature. The two subsequent movies, must like JP3, turned the dinosaurs into monsters and it was a lot less "real".

  • @juliancaraveo5700
    @juliancaraveo5700 Před 4 měsíci +5

    4:21 V Rex ? Is that you ?

  • @JurrasiciceYT
    @JurrasiciceYT Před 4 měsíci +4

    I basically think the thing that made Jurassic world so popular was the hybrid itself, the Indominus Rex and the indoraptor as I think that’s what made the franchise more popular as both of those hybrids got added into games and stuff like that but Jurassic world dominion was the worst of them maybe because it didn’t have like a hybrid dinosaur rampaging killing for sport like Indominus rex

    • @seanmckelvey6618
      @seanmckelvey6618 Před 4 měsíci

      No, instead it had a monster mascarading as a "Giganotosaurus".

  • @Hollywood113807
    @Hollywood113807 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Fallen Kingdom needed some small tweaks to make it 100x better. 3 things come to mind, move the capture of Owen and Claire to as soon as they make it to the ship, everything can continue to play out the same. Rather than Maisie opening the doors the main bad guy does unknowingly from the outside. Franklin and/or Zia die.

  • @TranquilAssassin
    @TranquilAssassin Před 4 měsíci

    I really agree with all your points. As someone who is not a writing expert, but is a die hard fan of the first 3 films and the franchise overall, I would love to see it get a better writing treatment going forward. I can deal with the CGI and some of the other shortcomings of modern Hollywood, but it's absolutely right that the screenplay can make or break a film. The biggest shortfall of the Lost World and Jurassic Park 3 was the overall plot and sequence of events. Looking back on Jurassic Park 3 in particular, I enjoyed everything about the move except the ending which seemed kind of lackluster. You needed one more encounter with the spinosaurus and the ending they had planned seemed like it would hit the mark. I'd argue the dialogue and writing of the first 3 were some of the best in the whole franchise.
    For the new trilogy I enjoyed it as well, at least the first 2, but they for sure fell short of what they could have been. I think the basis was there, a new functional park with guests, a giant hybrid dinosaur that is mistreated and also very violent and intelligent, and even the park attempting to control the dinosaurs like the raptors. I just don't think the execution was well done. I actually really enjoyed the black market idea in the second film and having wild dinosaurs roaming the country in the 3rd. But to string all of these plot points together into something logical and believable had to be priority 1

  • @RetroMagnus761
    @RetroMagnus761 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I think the next movie should take place in the far future where dinosaurs are almost fully integrated into modern society and the antagonist of the film wants to wipe them all out because he feels that their revival isn't ethical.

  • @theunpopularopinion9833
    @theunpopularopinion9833 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I enjoyed Jurassic World and Fallen Kingdom for what they were, but Dominion really hit home on how problematic the trilogy is as a whole. Nonsensical writing and plot-lines, humor and one-liners straight out of the MCU, characters either having too much plot armor or not being interesting at all, no sense of wonder with the dinosaurs, and of course, blatant fan service, enough to make Disney Star Wars jealous.
    To be fair, none of this was all that bad in Jurassic World. I can still enjoy that one as a fun tribute to the original film (plus it did maintain some of that sense of wonder). These problems became much more apparent in Fallen Kingdom, but I was willing to look past most of them because of the different direction the film took, the heartbreaking Brachiosaurus scene, some genuinely intense, horror-esque moments with the Indoraptor, and the cliffhanger ending with the dinosaurs escaping onto the main-land. That ending made my imagination run wild, there was all sorts of story potential right there.
    Then Dominion happened, playing everything safe and throwing all of that potential out the window. All the build up from Fallen Kingdom meant nothing, and all of the previously established problems were made even worse and taken too far. I enjoyed parts of Dominion at first, but the more I thought about it overtime, the more I disliked it, and I have no desire to ever watch it again. It left a big stain on the previous two films, like what's the point of all that potential if it goes nowhere?
    I sincerely hope this next Jurassic film will go in a different direction. If it turns out to be anything like Dominion, then it might be the first Jurassic film I'll be skipping (I mean absolutely no offense to those who love Dominion).

    • @seanmckelvey6618
      @seanmckelvey6618 Před 4 měsíci

      Dominion hurts me because it was the first time watching a Jurassic film that I actually thought about walking out of the cinema and doing something else. If it continues on that track, the franchise is done and I'll go back to pretending there are only 3 Jurassic Park films.

    • @theunpopularopinion9833
      @theunpopularopinion9833 Před 4 měsíci

      @@seanmckelvey6618 Dominion almost single-handedly redeemed Jurassic Park 3 for me. 3 may be mindless schlock, but it was at least entertaining, and it oddly feels more like Jurassic Park than the World trilogy does.

  • @thisisntmyceiling
    @thisisntmyceiling Před 4 měsíci +2

    The plot armor for every single character was too much for me. It made everything completely unrealistic. Every character who died was just a random person or a bad guy. Also, LOCUST?!?!? Who asked for that?!?!

  • @jaredmc7982
    @jaredmc7982 Před 4 měsíci

    I definitely agree with the issues of not-good screenwriting. The main character and story arcs and development from the first Jurassic World film to Dominion were a bit underwhelming or were not completed. The decisions they took with certain characters just felt like hard shifts that didn't feel natural and more forced. And some of the major characters we did get in Dominion just were never fully developed, while other major characters that felt like they'd be much more important with their own arcs for the following films were sidelined or outright abandoned in Dominion. That's not including a bunch of the other plot holes, contradictions, and quality of creature designs and functions that are also unique to Dominion itself that severely undercut the main themes and plots established by the previous five films and the original novels.
    I do agree that the bringing on several different writers to screen write different films across a trilogy, without having the core writers (Koepp, Jaffa and Silver) that wrote the previous and obviously much more successful and received entrees in the saga, was definitely hurt both Fallen Kingdom and Dominion quite a bit. I would have considered it necessary to at least have or two of them involved across the entire trilogy, as they could iron out what other writers might have added and make sure it all ties in much better with the tones, arcs and development of the main story and characters. I wish I could be more optimistic about Jurassic's future going forward, but I have many, many more doubts, considering the quality of material and content coming out of Hollywood within these past few years alone.

  • @chazchaz2121
    @chazchaz2121 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Using Rotten Tomatoes to prove a point really? Star Wars Last Jedi has 91... so yeah, that's not wrong at all... They also had to change some ratings they play with to confuse people who based their opinions on IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes in to thinking they were good films.
    How about the carbon copy of story structures and complete sequences and composition for Jurassic World? That takes away a lot, but you don't see that part in the critics. Isn´t originality important? A cool video would be comparing the scenes they copy. Jurassic World is a copycat as Star Wars Force awakens.

  • @nonplayercharacter596
    @nonplayercharacter596 Před 4 měsíci +7

    i need Klayton's Christcast

  • @Fossilsaurus1020
    @Fossilsaurus1020 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Is this channel full-time for you? I mean, it just keeps making me wonder what it takes to do this kind of thing, and how do you have time to make so much content? Good and steady content that can clearly take a lot of research?

    • @KlaytonFioriti
      @KlaytonFioriti  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’ve been doing this full time for nearly 7 years now but honestly once I got better equipment and editing skills it became easy to manage quick. I make all my videos on an iPad Pro these days which was a lot of money but pays off when it comes to ease of editing and making videos.

  • @jurassicpark1fan920
    @jurassicpark1fan920 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Honestly, I think Owen should have been killed by Blue in the first Jurassic World film.
    To showcase that while Owen did have respect for the raptors the raptors didn't share the same respect for Owen regardless if he imprinted on them.

    • @RotGoblin
      @RotGoblin Před 4 měsíci

      Blue definitely should have bitten his hand off at some point during the three films.

  • @dillieg
    @dillieg Před 4 měsíci +9

    I really think that matt reeves would be a perfect director for a jurassic film. His work on the planet of the apes films shows it

  • @indianaCurtis
    @indianaCurtis Před 4 měsíci +3

    I think the biggest problem was that the first movie was kind of a stand alone sort of sequel and then Fallen Kingdom went too weird and different than fans wanted "cough cough last Jedi cough" and then you had Dominion which basically pulled a rise of Skywalker esq attempt to right the ship with bringing back nostalgia characters bringing in Dodgson as a sort of "ive been behind everything the whole time and also retcon the Maisie is a clone now suddenly she's not a clone per se she's a natural born girl but mom birthed her without a male or anything......overall kind of disjointed but still a fun trilogy for what it is Cheers!

  • @joseph_b319
    @joseph_b319 Před 4 měsíci

    As a die hard fan of all the movies and Crichton's book i love them. Also love The Relic, i have read all of Preston and Child's books. Will we ever get a video on The Relic?

  • @BarretRush18
    @BarretRush18 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Something I couldn’t stand about JW3 is that Ian Malcolm is a completely different character than he was in the Lost world. All of his character development was just erased back to the first Jurassic Park.

  • @primevalyautja1305
    @primevalyautja1305 Před 4 měsíci +4

    You Know, I Really Love the Jurassic World Trilogy and also Blue is my Favorite Velociraptor. also People are not wrong for Defending or Loving the JW Trilogy

    • @scruffydodo8503
      @scruffydodo8503 Před 4 měsíci

      Absolutely!

    • @Tipsy.42
      @Tipsy.42 Před 4 měsíci +2

      True! I honestly enjoyed the JW trilogy. They did have some problems, but they had a lot of good to em as well. Obviously none of em are every going to top the original film, but they've still been fun enjoyable movies (which I can not say for the Star Wars sequel trilogy) 😂

    • @seanmckelvey6618
      @seanmckelvey6618 Před 4 měsíci +1

      They're not wrong for liking it. No one can stop you from enjoying something and no one should do so either. However, the movies have been on a massive downward slide since JP3. This is just true, the World movies are less well written & far more "MCU" than anything before them. People have a right to disagree with that direction and point out the issues with it.

    • @Casual_guy1234
      @Casual_guy1234 Před 4 měsíci

      Hmmm, should I go to war? I do kinda disagree, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
      Nah

    • @Tipsy.42
      @Tipsy.42 Před 4 měsíci

      @seanmckelvey6618 I'd disagree with all the JW films feeling like the mcu. The very first Jurassic World was genuinely a really good film. At no point did I think, "This is like Marvel," but the other two JW films, I could see what u mean. I like Jurassic World more than JP 3 and consider Jurassic Wolrd being on par with The Lost World (with the original film at number one, obviously.)

  • @WhyTho525
    @WhyTho525 Před 4 měsíci +5

    This video was needed to be done.

  • @timsimpson6019
    @timsimpson6019 Před 2 měsíci +1

    In my opinion as someone that loves dinosaurs…
    Jurassic Park was about seeing dinosaurs brought back to life and interacting with humans. Despite some inconsistencies the dinosaurs felt real, and the world built felt very realistic. The Jurassic world movies leaned far more into the sci-fi genre and went in many directions that I didn’t enjoy:
    1. Hybrid dinosaurs. I hate this concept, it feels like something from a cartoon or video game. As a dinosaur lover I want to see real dinosaurs, not a hybrid of 2. And the idea that dinosaurs were boring after 15 years of creation just doesn’t work for me, especially when most normal people probably couldn’t afford to go across the ocean to the park lol.
    2. Training dinosaurs for military. This is just goofy and dumb.
    3. Dinosaurs become characters and feel less like wild animals.
    4. The cloned girl, that’s completely out of this world and I can’t believe they did that.
    Overall the Jurassic world feels more like fast and the furious or marvel but with dinosaurs. The Jurassic Park films are much better. I like all 3 park films better than even the first Jurassic World. Just my opinion though.

  • @Ambers128
    @Ambers128 Před 4 měsíci

    There is also many writing currently that rather than making something that could stand on its own, they play the nostalgia factor. Bringing in the old cast was fine, but when you start writing for the original audience, it really ceases to be entertainment. If i want to watch the old show, I'll watch the old show.
    The reason i loved JW was bc it showed the idealized version of JP how Hammond imagined it. Inside were many things that paid homage to parts of the book that were unused in the original trilogy, even if redirected. Specifically the camouflage ability of the carnosaurus.

  • @DeathTheKid6778
    @DeathTheKid6778 Před 4 měsíci +3

    My only problem with the series is they keep putting all the good moments in the trailer, so they kind of spoil their own movies.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Před 4 měsíci +1

      dont watch the trailer then. its that simple

    • @SS_Atlantic_Greyhound1119
      @SS_Atlantic_Greyhound1119 Před 4 měsíci

      The trailer is what alerts you to when a movie is coming out. It's what kick starts the hype for a movie. ​@@nomercyinc6783

  • @karimC35
    @karimC35 Před 4 měsíci +3

    IMO Jurassic world is the only good movie in the trilogy so disappointed in fallen kingdom and dominion

  • @nfg84chicago35
    @nfg84chicago35 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Reality is what hurt this new trilogy. JW worked because Masrani didnt want to kill the Indominus Rex at first, that allowed the plot the move along.
    As much as we all wonder what the world would be like if Dinosaurs existed, solving the problem would not be very hard. Dominion failed because it ignored modern weaponry.

  • @ChaserJonDoe
    @ChaserJonDoe Před 4 měsíci +2

    As stupid as it may sound, if you want some more Jurassic World check out the fanfic 'It's not the Raptor DNA'. Goes down a different rabbit hole of it being human dna that made the indominus so intelligent, and the park being able to reopen with the indominus. It's much larger than the original Jrassic Park books combined, and will last you a while. Though I fear the writer has passed away with their sudden disappearance years ago.

  • @Jose_Lopez08
    @Jose_Lopez08 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I think that fell off in fallen kingdom I enjoyed it but I noticed towards the end of that film was expecting a dinosaur ruling world that was set up at the end then we get dominion which completely went 180 Jurassic World really boost the franchise again but I say that what ever they have planned for that 7th movie there gonna need a hail Mary pass for people to get back into this franchise.

  • @ukotoa1639
    @ukotoa1639 Před 4 měsíci +8

    For me this is what happens when the rule of cool takes precedence over does this makes sense, for examples wouldn’t it be cool if the dinosaurs came charging through the ash cloud of the volcano? But wouldn’t they be all killed by the ash? Wouldn’t it be cool if the Rex had a rival that settles the score after 65 millions years? In what world would 2 animals have a grudge match? People saying “oh just turn your brain off it’s dumb fun.” No that’s just becoming an excuse for bad writing

    • @erideb3864
      @erideb3864 Před 4 měsíci

      And even if it was just made for just a popcorn flick, this was built from it's predecessor, Jurassic Park from the book it was based, a movie that's been praised and respected for it's realism of the dinosaurs, the characters, and its themes. Now it has evolved to a B-flick made of cash grabs and branding

    • @tylerleach8796
      @tylerleach8796 Před 4 měsíci +1

      No, they wouldn’t be killed by ash. It’s not ash that’s deadly when a volcano erupts, it’s pryoclastoc flow, which clearly had not started yet in that scene.

  • @ethandoyle4978
    @ethandoyle4978 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hey klayton , you probably won’t see this comment immediately but I’m personally glad u still love the franchise and didn’t complete bash the JW trilogy despite the flaws, I still love both trilogies equally and I agree that the writing should change for the franchise to continue. And hopefully universal decides to let Koepp cook the script he wants to use and that he fells will help the franchise.

  • @Brandonhatesmayo
    @Brandonhatesmayo Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think my biggest issue with people not wanting to talk about the issues with these movies are the ones that just kind of turn their brain off because it's a fictional action movie and just shut out any kind of conversation because it's about running from giant lizards. Those aren't people I wanna have any conversations with, let alone about movies.

  • @dinodan7770
    @dinodan7770 Před 4 měsíci +15

    I have been waiting for this video

  • @jamsbasketball9676
    @jamsbasketball9676 Před 4 měsíci +4

    They all made over a billion. We're hungry dinosaur junkies and we need our fix. They can make double the money if they make them good.

  • @ericsnewlink3
    @ericsnewlink3 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Its baffling how they decided to create a brand new dinosaur with so many whacky gimmicks. What I liked about the first film was how smart it was and how smart it made me feel. It was full of science and made me feel like I was watching real dinosaurs. Jurassic World is a great study of whats wrong with main stream movies.

  • @fedevto
    @fedevto Před 4 měsíci +11

    I'll be honest, Jurassic World the first time I saw it seemed "good," nothing amazing. Then Fallen Kingdom I didn't like, and well, Dominion honestly made me furious; it was a lack of respect to the franchise. Hopefully, they won't make a James Bond Jurassic Park. They just don't seem to understand that Jurassic Park is about terror and suspense. There's no need to mix species or make human clones, etc.
    You don't need a thousand species to make a good movie. Hopefully, they'll make something good after the garbage that was Dominion. Great video, Klayton.

    • @Tipsy.42
      @Tipsy.42 Před 4 měsíci

      Fair, but I personally think the first JW movie was great. It's the 2nd most magical film in the series and made it feel special seeing the dinosaurs again (obviously, the original film is number one).

    • @fedevto
      @fedevto Před 4 měsíci

      I respect your opinion, everyone has their own tastes. I don't see anything magical about it, and I think the idea of hybrids was stupid, even worse with the cloned girl in the next one. But hey, there are people who liked Dominion...each movie has its own things. Still, the intro of Fallen Kingdom is great, but I don't like the movie.. I can watch the first three movies as many times as I want, they never bore me, but I can't stand Jurassic World , FK or JWD more than once.@@Tipsy.42

  • @AAC1714
    @AAC1714 Před 23 dny

    “He slid into my dm’s” ironically relates to 90% of the audience watching as 90% of the audience watching would use that exact sentence too describe they’re significant others first encounter with them

  • @AncestorEmpire1
    @AncestorEmpire1 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Ironic that it followed the quality of the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
    Good opening, then the downfall began.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Před 4 měsíci

      it disney owned jp then it would be expected but it wasnt .

    • @tylerleach8796
      @tylerleach8796 Před 4 měsíci

      Good opening
      Great middle part hated by the mentally feeble
      And then flopped the landing on the final part due to trying to backpedal on the things established on the second part

  • @enderethan144
    @enderethan144 Před 4 měsíci +5

    More like what happened to everyone that loved this franchise. I feel like the only one who loves all the movies because they had one thing that I love…Dinosaurs and prehistoric animals.
    Dinos rule
    Humans drool.

    • @EmperorSarco
      @EmperorSarco Před 4 měsíci +1

      I loved the World trilogy, but to be fair, it had flaws. I do feel it's treated too harshley.

    • @enderethan144
      @enderethan144 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@EmperorSarcoexactly I’m smart enough to know it’s problems but that doesn’t turn me into one of those over sensitive clowns that focus way too much on writing. Writing is boring.
      Also just being clear to you and anyone else I’m autistic.

    • @Dalekzilla54
      @Dalekzilla54 Před 4 měsíci

      A film is a lot more than just the writing. Why don't more people get that? If it only came down to the writing, you might as well be talking about a book.

    • @enderethan144
      @enderethan144 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Dalekzilla54 I KNOW A FUCKING FILM IS more than writing. It just seems everyone focuses way too much on the boring piece of crap.

  • @mouse3872
    @mouse3872 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think a few of the issues with the trilogy is as follows
    1. Fallen Kingdom should have been split into two films the first half and second half of Fallen Kingdom was so different from one another that they feel like 2 films mashed together.
    2. Before dominion throw in another film that brings back the OG cast that covers what the world is like with Humans and Dinosaurs living together the main characters would be Just the OG Park cast and they could just be brought back together by Biosyn to help wrangle some of the dinosaurs for the US government.
    3. Then do a film where the Jurassic World cast is trying to keep Maisie from Biosyn who are trying to kidnap her. With the film ending in Maisie getting taken from Owen and Claire.
    4. Then have dominion bring all those plot threads together in a "Avengers" style movie like the studio wanted. With the plot of the last film being essentially save Maisie from Biosyn who the Jurassic Park cast has figured out is doing shady stuff with the Dinos.
    I may have gotten a bit ambitious there adding a few extra films but really I think the way to fix the trilogy would have been split Fallen Kingdom and have a movie that is dedicated to having Dinosaurs living with humans and the repercussions of that.

  • @ttt2080
    @ttt2080 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think the best thing for the franchise would be a tv series based on the CIA group Franklin is working for in Dominion. It doesn't necessarily have to have any characters from Dominion in it, it could be an entirely new cast. But I think that they have to show how the world adapts to the prehistoric animals after Dominion, especially since so many people wanted that to be the main plot of Dominion.

    • @TufteMotorsport
      @TufteMotorsport Před 4 měsíci +1

      I agree! I have said it many times by now. We need a Jurassic "Clone wars" live action mini series set between Fallen Kingdom and Dominion. Following different people through the new world. A vet, a DPG representative, someone from Fish and wildlife and the CIA group. Imagine X-Files and Terra nova set in JPs universe.

  • @andreasstavrinou6219
    @andreasstavrinou6219 Před 4 měsíci +2

    What were missing in this franchise is Not More Teeth and Action but there Dinosaur's wow Enough and Awe and Suspense in the stories.❤

  • @dereklopez9060
    @dereklopez9060 Před 4 měsíci +19

    "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."
    Perfectly sums up the entire JW trilogy.

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Nah. First Jurassic World movie is amazing

    • @scruffydodo8503
      @scruffydodo8503 Před 4 měsíci

      @Mobius118
      I’ll second that, it’s in my top two favorite movies

    • @dereklopez9060
      @dereklopez9060 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Mobius118 While I did like JW, the next two movie's unfortunately went downhill after that.

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@dereklopez9060I can definitely agree with that

  • @loekegaard9
    @loekegaard9 Před 3 měsíci

    I commend you for focusing on what the filmmakers and Universal Pictures can do in order to achieve the best possible Jurassic Park films in the future. I'm on your side. You're 100 % right that screenwriting is the main issue for Jurassic Park III and the Jurassic World trilogy, and for Hollywood films in general. Screenwriting is Alpha and Omega. You said that Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard brought good qualities to the Jurassic World films. That's true. The actors in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom and Jurassic World Dominion deserved better than the screenplays they got, especially actress Isabella Sermon as Maisie Lockwood - she was a child actress. I think the next Jurassic Park film (after the one that begins production in June of this year) should be a prequel and a sequel at the same time. Dominion retconned the history of Jurassic Park cloning and Henry Wu's role in it. Now that that's happened, that's the canon of the film series. Isabella Sermon should be asked to come back and play Charlotte Lockwood as a brilliant young woman starting to work for John Hammond and InGen in the 1980s (or 1970s?), eventually cloning herself. At the same time, Sermon plays an equally brilliant Maisie Lockwood as a young woman involved in the same science as her biological 'mother', after the events of Dominion. Jeff Goldblum and BD Wong return to play their respective characters in the present-day plot. The film introduces the Disease X concept from Michael Crichton's The Lost World novel in the 1980s (or 1970s) plot (a younger actor than BD Wong can play Henry Wu here). Charlotte Lockwood isn't able to solve the Disease X mystery before she dies. InGen is able to keep Disease X classified, even after Hurricane Clarissa wipes out Site B. Subsequently, InGen and Wu, and later Masrani Global and Wu, thought DX died out. It didn't, and it re-emerges in present-day. Maisie Lockwood becomes aware of DX's resurgence, and of how it has evolved the ability to go from dinosaurs to humans. Maisie, in collaboration with Wu and Malcolm, completes the work of Charlotte in relation to DX, saving the dinosaurs, and mankind, from extinction. Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver are welcome to write the film.

  • @simpson1045
    @simpson1045 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I often compare the downfall of Jurassic with that of the Star Wars sequels. There was no gameplan from the get go, it traded hands with directors for every movie, and they brought back beloved OG characters only to waste them in something that was sub-par to the original movies.
    I remember sitting in the theater after Fallen Kingdom ended and when my friend looked over at me and asked what I thought of it, I told him I hated it. Idk why Hollywood thinks that everything needs to be "Fast & Furious". Just give me good storytelling!

  • @EATSxBABIES
    @EATSxBABIES Před 4 měsíci +4

    JP and JW1 both have similar themes. Nature vs Human kinds will over nature.
    The sequels are all just Kaiju movies with a size limit though. Cannot forgive that. There are high points to first half of TLW, but the book being the high point it is really puts shame to the movie. None of the other sequels even come close.

    • @Tipsy.42
      @Tipsy.42 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I disagree. Lost World is very good and definitely isn't just a "bad Kaiju" movie.

    • @tylerleach8796
      @tylerleach8796 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Lost World and Fallen Kingdom are nowhere close to “bad Kaiju movies.”

  • @couchdoggo
    @couchdoggo Před 4 měsíci +34

    my favourite jw movie was fallen kingdom. i dont know why, it just is.

    • @valou-scaling
      @valou-scaling Před 4 měsíci +9

      Cause it’s the best one hands down

    • @enderethan144
      @enderethan144 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Nice to see someone actually love Fallen Kingdom it’s in my top three.

    • @couchdoggo
      @couchdoggo Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@valou-scaling fr it is truly a great movie and i dont get how people can not like it

    • @joechesney3128
      @joechesney3128 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Because it's by far the best compared to the other two

    • @couchdoggo
      @couchdoggo Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@enderethan144 same here, id put the movies in this order (if you disagree with me pls dont get mad at me lol)
      6. jurassic world dominion.
      5. jurassic world.
      4. jurassic park 3.
      3. jurassic world fallen kingdom.
      2. jurassic park.
      1. lost world jurassic part.
      thats my list anyway.

  • @SuperMattman21
    @SuperMattman21 Před 4 měsíci +2

    How the F did Dr. Wu survive this trilogy?????? That was the most obvious death in the history of Jurassic and they spent so long building it up. Also a good guy should have died.

  • @tntk3218
    @tntk3218 Před 4 měsíci +2

    For me if dominion skipped the locusts and malta black market. Dominion would have been a much better movie. AND FIX THE GODDAMN PACING

  • @T-ZillaYT
    @T-ZillaYT Před 4 měsíci +4

    Honestly, Jurassic World Dominon is my favorite movie. It just is