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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- A close look at DCS Combined Arms module and the new EA Gunner HEAT PC by Radian Simulations LLC.
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It would be amazing to have ground vehicles with similar levels of simulation detail as the aircraft in DCS.
That would take infinitely longer to develop than a FF aircraft
Too much!!
DCS need a more complete and complex RTS for involve more strategy fan.
Imagine steel beats exists
@@c.g.262 ground model can be fairly difficult to model, just look at snow runner for example
@@ger_airfighter this
As a Abrams crewman IRL, I would buy a full fidelity Abrams in a heartbeat. I used to play a lot of Steel Beasts Pro for that kind of experience, but if DCS did it I would be stoked.
If they ever made full fidelity tank modules, I just hope they would have actual gameplay use. I have Tank Crew in Il2 and there's very little to do outside of just studying the amazingly detailed tanks. There are some missions and a campaign but they feel very bare-bones.
Combined arms and Logistics need an overhaul in DCS before chinook and C130 arrive.. another great video!
combined arms is worth it for helo users. or set maps like levant or gray flag
I also play GHPC a lot and it's amazing. It would be awesome if combined arms could be like GHPC
The biggest problem with DCS combined arms at the moment is that ground units use health bars. They don't have internal or external systems simulated. It's pretty gamey and not very simmy atm. I do believe ED is working on this though as it's relevant in A2G as well.
The real dream in DCS is ARMA 3 style missions but with DCS aircraft, the tank games vehicles (not just tanks but APCs, MRAPs, MATVs, etc), and infantry. How cool would it be if you did an airport assault style mission in DCS with aircraft handling targets, armored vehicles rolling in, and then infantry clearing buildings and securing the objective (inside and outside). Anyone gets hurt you have CASEVAC birds on standby. I know some of this is already possible in DCS but they can greatly expand on it with more fidelity.
Combined Arms does need some love. DCS is not just exclusive to aircrafts, it's a combat simulator and I feel like it's being pushed into a combat flight sim more so.
I would absolutely love to play DCS tanks. Especially if it's like Gunner HEAT PC. Unfortunately the ground graphics in DCS aren't really up to the task in my opinion, but the potential is 100% there. Hoping for it one day at least..
Honestly ED should focus some time and effort in including a good combined Arms experience, with full modelled Tanks (interior and exterior).
I bought IL-2 and the Provkorovka DLC just to drive in the full fidelity WW2 Tanks.
It would expand the community, so that old Armored Fist Fans, would find a new home.
I'm confused as to how you don't have more subs, this channel is very professional you deserve more..
It's called "Digital Combat Simulator" not "Digital Flight Simulator". I think they should eventually add numerous mechanics like ground and sea
Agree completely, expand on CA, and if content creators like you made tutorials and gameplay videos show casing CA. I think that would help garner interest in CA
I would love to see more work on combined arms... It's such a cool module and it's fun driving around the maps with it
You're spot on haha. It's been my hope for a long time to see combined arms reach it's potential! Especially with the map improvemets we've seen, it's so much fun moving stound them. Unless ED find a partner/3rd party to take it on, I don't see it happening in the near future sadly
Meanwhile one modder is more efficient at making new units than the entire DCS team.
DCS team just buys aircraft models from other developers. so lazy.
@@SnafuWT what are you even talking about? And how could they even buy it when the models in DCS are the most accurate you can find in any sim/game?
Wouldn't be surprised if it's just one person working on the ground assets at ED too. During spare time on their lunch break lol
@@sosayweall1201 most games use bought assets. more often than you think. and in my field, gaijin and wargaming bought the same 3d tank model from an undisclosed modeler, making both have the exact same suspension bug where the solid metal swingarm acts like a flexible coil in both games. this is just ONE example.
and in the case of DCS, let me know who made the viggen and the f14. it's not eagle dynamics.
@@SnafuWT You totally misunderstand how the 3rd parties system work with ED.
Some 3rd parties make modules (modelling, but also systems, flight model...) and propose them to ED. If satisfied with the quality, ED adds the aircraft to DCS, and authorizes the 3rd partie to sell them under the DCS licence. Something like 70% of the price of a 3rd partie module go to the 3rd partie, and about 30% to ED. ED doesnt buy anything, and also makes their own modules like the F-16, the F-18, the Hind, the Apache, most WW2 aircraft...
Seconding the GHPC recommendation-It's super fun, you owe it to yourself to check it out if you like tanks at all.
Yeah I feel like the potential of Combined Arms is really underappreciated, but first DCS needs to take a major leap in the sophistication of its ground units-I've been playing DCS since 2010 back when it was literally just called "DCS: Ka-50 Black Shark," being blown away by the idea they were making a SECOND aircraft one day, and as far as I can tell the way the ground units work is unchanged from those days (at the very least, and probably from LOMAC before that).
CAS is such a huge part of DCS that making the ground units of both sides feel much more intelligent, reactive, cooperative, and alive without the totalizing need for mission design or RTS micromanagement could really kick the experience to the next level. Infantry especially need their own new simulation mechanics to let them be more than decoration to make it look like your mission has people in it. I'm sure there's a clever way to implement this without breaking legacy missions & campaigns.
If only Gunner HEAT PC could be merged with DCS
Good day! I've bought Combined Arms because of your video. Seems interesting. Keep up the good work.
We use combined Arms in our multiplayer missions and its awesome to have a real Player Commanding the Enemy team
It is a must have module if you want a more dynamic mission. I have used it many times and would like if ED gave it a lot of love.
I hate that you're right. It could be a must-have module for the game play if the vehicles were easier to control.
One of the coolest things to do with Combined Arms is to also get the the C-130 mod and just drop units nearby enemies! And on the way back to base you can engage the enemies with the units you just deployed!
I have a feeling this is why they haven't focused on releasing it yet. I wonder if they will flesh out combined arms better before releasing the C-130
@@ChickentNug I also got that feeling ever since they announced the C-130, just not sure if they would do that before or after the module came out.
I’m fairly sure ED said a few years ago they had no intention of continuing combined arms unless that has changed.
I personally think that getting something like Gunner Heat PC and SAM simulator in DCS would be a big plus for the game. Yes it would suck to get whacked by a helicopter. But it sucks to get whacked by a SAM. RTS is coming with the Dynamic campaign. It's going to be fun.
Really appreciate this explanation and take on one of the more divisive modules in DCS. I think CA is a great addition to DCS and would like to see it updated. If there's a question of dividing limited dev resources though, I think I would favor focusing on dynamic campaign and performance improvements before putting effort towards CA.
I wouldn't mind seeing CA get some love before another module gets introduced though. We've got plenty new aircraft on the way that are probably months to years from release, so I'd rather see CA get attention than another new module announcement. Just my two cents.
Thank you! I totally believe this is possible and will bring so much more in the game. It doesn't even have to be a huge overhaul, few additions for ground units, some needed fixes for the ships, and the battlefield will be transformed to what the title dcs actually stands for. I can't wait for... the future 😂 Thanks again
Another great vid man! Combined arms is a bit better than an afterthought, but it sure would be fun to have some improvements.
Thanks Andrew !
I have a project to share a WW2 combined arm mission.
Actualy i continue thé maps and mission especially for thé mi 24 !
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Combined Arms is one of my favourite modules for DCS, along with the Warthog
Combined Arms... surely a topic that divides the community... BUT...
I think that it has much potential, when it gets improvement. And then it will be a great opportunity for all multiplayer based things. And yes, it seems that ED is focusing on too many things at once, and yes we love to FLY our beloved planes...
BUT it is called DCS
"Digital Combat Simulator" and that includes forces on the ground...
DDCS online server uses combined arms to great effect. It's a challenging server. It's also purely PVP. Check it out if you haven't. The server is currently pushing the limits to what can be down with combined arms in DCS.
Combined Arms if my first DCS module ! even before i think to fly anything hahaha, i really hope that some day a third party will see all the hidden potential of Combined Arms in DCS and start to work hard on this!
It would probably bring more people into DCS, if the ground units were more detailed. I know there are some people that only use the combined arms module and are very good JTACs. You don't see it much on multiplayer servers, but in group missions you will.
The only Combined Arms things a buddy and I use in our missions are simple, such as an easy ad-hoc method of holding or releasing armor / infantry / convoy to make our missions a bit more user friendly. No more "oops screwed something up halfway to the AO, oh crap the battle already happened" is worthwhile.
I would love if in DCS were "real" Simulated Anti Aircraft Radars and to "play" as an SAM Operator. With all the same details the Aircrafts get.
I really love thses old Submarine Sims by Sonalyst like 688 Hunter killer. Thats a bit like a SAM Module would be like.
I love using Combined Arms, especially in MP missions. The game feels so different from the ground, especially from a scale perspective, and the sounds are absolutely amazing
I don't even think it needs a huge amount of new features or anything like full fidelity tanks - it needs polish (especially UI), AI improvements, and bugfixes mainly imo
Most of the new features I'd like involve infantry - controllable infantry would be great, and the ability to load/unload them in Combined Arms would open up massive potential
Gunner Heat PC is insane. Been playing it a ton. It's got some issues but it's amazing.
If ED and the GHPC devs actually melded, became partners. Imagine the possibilities.
Super 👍 Thank you
imagine SAM simulation like in SAM Simulator game, or at least more advanced than it is. So without all these switches, but more realistic radar.
I've always liked the Combined Arms module, so it would be nice to see some improvements. I was working on an RTS mod a while back before my computer was stolen. I'd like to get back on it one day, when I get a new computer.
Updating combined arms so that it draws the attention of players that aren't even interested in the aircraft would be amazing! Talk about a great time in the air supporting people in ground units. I'd love to be the one on the ground sometimes to. At the moment combined arms isn't very VR friendly. After all this game is called DCS not DFS.
there is nothing in DCS's name that says its just a aircraft simulator, when they decided to call it DCS World i could only imagine they had more than just planes in mind
I've always thought what DCS could be if it had GHPC mechanics on ground, whole different fanbase making the game appealing to more players. it would be awesome
Updating combined arms to even the ARMA level would be awesome and would open the door for ground vehicle modules. With the advent of AI for DCS, there is no reason not to have armor modules. Especially when the Comander Ai comes along with the dynamic campaign. I for one would pay full model price for an M1 Abrams, or a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Having all the other tanks with turret, tracks, and engine that can be individually knocked out would be sweet. It would also make attacking tanks a better experience from the air.
Combined arms is great, but the real problem is it brings servers to a grinding halt, to the point where you can get banned for taking control of a ground unit. If they can massively improve performance so that you can actually use these in multiplayer, that would be great. Adding “full fidelity” might make that impossible though.
as a huge war thunder player i have eagerly been awaiting DCS combined arms to be updated to the modern quality. I hope some day we get multiplayer servers with ground battles/air battles on going at the same time. It would be awesome and open up the game for more people, not everyone can afford a joystick to fly, or maybe they aren't interested in flying, but perhaps they like tanks.. tanks you can play on a keyboard.. come on ED!!
We have our own dynamic pvp campaign. We use CA for all the ground moves and construction sites like FOB, antenas etc, sam placements, helicopter logistics, capture and control of zones. It's the most important module and it's a shame it's in a so bad underdeveloped state. The AI pathfinding is horrible and the UI is very cumbersome but it gives us a dynamic scenario where you need to scout using sensors to see what the other team is doing.
I'd be happy if ED just dropped EVERYTHING they're working on and focused on reworking the ground unit part of the sim. Make troops act and move, and look more naturally
Great game gunner heat pc!!
A module that holds a ton of potential if they had the manpower and will to put time into further developping it. I am a true believer that Combined Arms could change for the much better the future of DCS if like i said it was developped further. I do love my DCS for the simulation of flying, but i also do love every now and then to control a vehicle and go out on a mission while the war continues, when combined with multiplayer, you can litteraly call in airstrikes with laser pointers etc, the feeling you get getting on coms with whatever CAS aircraft around and guiding him on a target you have visual on and seeing the target being bombed from the dude you communicated with is extremely satisfying.
Combined Arms clearly has no need to go too much into the details of vehicles, especially the interior, i know a bunch of people would love that, but if we want to stay realistic on a scale of development time, the best compromise would be to only model some sort of proper sights for gunner and keep the usage of the vehicle like it already is, as in, either driving from driver view, from gunner view or 3rd person.
More could be done but i'm not gonna mention everything here, either way, DCS would benefit a lot from really insentavising players to use the module more often and create a good cooperation between air and land units.
If DCS would pay the GHPC or Steel Beasts devs to make a fully in-depth combined arms, it would be amazing. I understand that in-depth vehicles could cause performance issues for aircraft, but I think it could be pretty easy to minimize. If you just show aircraft low-quality models to represent where combined arms assets are located, it shouldn't affect other players at all, right? As long as all of that rendering is client side and only done by the players controlling the vehicles it shouldn't be a problem.
I'm sure performance for combined arms players themselves might not be great, but you can do the same thing with aircraft and just lower the quality of stuff going on above ground. All they need are to use the radar and stuff anyway for air defences, they don't need to be able to see pretty airplane models lol
I think high fidelity ground vehicle models with clickable interiors would do extremely well and would bring a lot of tank nerds to DCS. People already spend like $80 on shitty premium warthunder tanks that have almost no realism to them and I know for sure that more realistic models in DCS would do extremely well and they could charge full price for them. The workload would be pretty low for ED if they contracted other dev teams to work with them on this and it would add an entire other side to DCS
Combined Arms is definitely a module that deserves an update. Models aside, the AI logic has to be addressed to use them.
Combined Arms is fantastic - it does need a rework but still better than War Thunder
Would love it for Combined Arms to be improved.
I find combined arms urgently needs a major overhaul, what comes off the features and level of detail
Combined with Liberation.. there are some missions i actually play DCS like an RTS game with CA.. when I'm too lazy to fly a mission 😂
If only CA would have better usability in VR
I desperately want dcs to be a combat sim and not just an aircraft sim. I‘d love to see fully fletched invasions 50 tankers and 25 aircraft and a dozen controllers opposing each other and fighting to the best of their skills. But realistically we are worlds away. I don‘t think we are neither equipped with the right resources nor the right personnel to make such a huge operation possible in any regularity.
Ill be honest not having active ground units is the only reason I dont play DCS. Naval would be cool also but ground would bring me over instantly because chasing people around in circles is okay but not my preferred game play
Digital Combat Simulator, should be called, Digital Aircraft Simulator.
Is there any news about the Map of Norway? :)
Keep up good work!
I would love to see a game/ sim with detailed air ground and sea assets all together
I think its time for a damn Heatblur M1 Abrams
GHPC is awesome even in its early access state.
If only ED was up to give access to the SDK, with the condition that if you want to sell, you have to sell through them.
Great coverage Andrei - well balanced. I'm surprised you didn't do a WarThunder comparison 😂. In all reality, I'm one of those who use DCS for unclassified training in military aviation. The ground element for me adds depth to the "Live, Virtual, Constructive".
I know this idea is lofty, but if Eagle Dynamics and Bohemia Interactive (ARMA 3) could find a way to marry our communities, I honestly believe they would overtake the market. When I mention Arma, I'm speaking from a ground troop perspective, while DCS focuses on the aerial combat; add in Gunner HEAT PC and place them all on the same battlefield...
I can only imagine.
I wish dcs ca had a more realistic way to aim artillery and more precision because manual aiming is a pain in the rear end
I would do anything for a full fidelity tank... we can only dream
They need to start by fixing the view issues in VR
Problem is that ED neglected the ground units for so long that needs to be corrected before adding more Combined Arms content. Infantry units under fire firing like they were radar directed without even taking cover, optical AAA that have sniper habilities, and ground units keeping full capabilities with 1% of "life"...
Full VR Support for Combined Arms please
yea fixed gun sights in VR!!!!
They should rename the game to "In the future" 😆
CA has awesome potential....but needs core integration. I'd love to see ALL SAMs controllable by CA inc SA2/3/6/10/11 and the ability to move units like SA10s down to unit level eg JUST move launchers or just a search radar.....but we don't need to be able to DRIVE them all.
i love CA, its epic
Speaking of performance - ED hasn't had much to say on DLSS - hopefully in 2023 and not 'beyond'
Once steelbeast dev propose to ED to work together but they declined due to the game limitation
Sounds interesting - do you have a source for this? I'd like to read more.
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the one big issue with combined arms is no support for VR yet ... so if you fly VR it screws up the view from inside vehicles
I think they should focus on the dynamic campaign to get more gameplay. I personally will not invest in new modules before there is a dynamic campaign
I like playing as a sam unit. All tho I would like to play as a controller of large sam site.
I like Combined Arms but it doesn't work in VR or I missed a patch.🤔
I have combine arms, don't know how to control ground units from an aircraft. Could you please to over that. tthanks
You missed the syria update😅
Came after releasing this video... enjoy and see you on monday
As a guy that often plays the role of either JTAC, Ground Force Commander or have to juggle both jobs at once it is painful how bad the "RTS" portion of the module is despite it's humongous potential. It is pretty much unplayable, at most a tech demo level to be honest. If not for the joy of pilots able to interact with a live JTAC or JTACs able to interact with live GFC and support a live ground battle instead of some simple AI prompts it would be nothing but a chore.
I regret money spent on CA. If you care about ground armored combat, you get SB. There's simply no match. GHPC is a bit arkadey, but can be fun.
Upgrade combined arms!!!
We do a #upgradecombinedarms ?!?
I always find it interesting when people compare GHPC and DCS. GHPC is more closely aligned with IL-2 (which, incidentally, has its own tank DLC that is more detailed than GHPC) or Flaming Cliffs 3 in terms of fidelity. The most apt comparison for me would be Steel Beasts Pro - that is the DCS of the tank sim world, with clickable interiors and everything.
Clickable artillery please, ED!
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I bought Combined Arms back in like 2012 or 2013, something stupidly long ago, and you're saying it has potential in the FUTURE? FFS, this is already a decade into the future. At the rate it is going, it MIGHT be cool 15 years from now. But it is more likely ED will be out of business before then, or will have moved onto their next game that they can milk unfinished modules for, for the next 25 years.
lmao combined arms is abandonware
Never played this style. I guess its not for me.
I mean its only been 11 years or so,
early days yet lol
The 2 reason i don't have it is not compatible with VR an i only use vr and the fact that literally everybody says its not worth it don't buy it . ..........
DCS has a lot of potential, unfortunately it hasn't made any of it in the last 10 years. It's gotten nicer, yes, but under the hood it's actually rubbish. ED starts everything and finishes nothing. Combined Arms, FA-18, F-16, Super Carrier, the Radarmodel, Flightmodel, Damagemodel, Weaponeffects, AI's, ATC, Dynamic Campaign... only promises but nothing is finished. The list only gets longer with each new module. The community has to build practically all the content, and the simplest idea of improving the editor to support/help the community has not been implemented by ed for over 10 years. I've lost my trust in ED and believe that F4-BMS/Microprose or even Microsoft will pull this off rather than ED.
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Good video Andre, no one talks about the great potential that this section of the DCS has... In my opinion, we all like more dog fights, bombing missions; but… why not make this spectacular simulator… “THE ULTIMATE WAR SIMULATOR” ??? I know that the ED guys have a lot of work ahead of them and updates to do and it is logical that they give priority to fighters; but hopefully, watching this video and at least... make the cabins, interiors, of land vehicles a little more "attractive"... "IN THE FUTURE... 🫵🏼😁" Hug mate!