DCS damage model is a mess

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • ED fix it plz
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Komentáře • 66

  • @NineLineED
    @NineLineED Před měsícem +30

    Hi, the GB-6 is not a penetrator weapon, looks like you use the HE (High Explosive) version and is not meant for hardened targets. I am reviewing the other aspects of your video as well and will report the issues I see to the team. Thanks!

    • @NineLineED
      @NineLineED Před měsícem +16

      The M282 MPP APKWS is a penetrator weapon and does do damage to armored vehicles but in reality ground vehicles are fairly basic DMs right now. You will not see system, mobility or crew kills currently all things you might see with the usage of this weapon. As a ground vehicle is more damaged in DCS you will see a point where it smokes, it can lose the ability to return fire or even limited mobility, but this is something we do want to improve.

    • @NineLineED
      @NineLineED Před měsícem +14

      The Belouga I dont think would ber very affective vs more modern armor. Its not guided and would be better vs light armor, some of the issues above with the rockets also apply here. In other jets, I was told by an SME, with clusters they tend to like to drop 2 as well when using clusters, as well clusters are like shot guns, not great for shooting at a distance at one target.

    • @NineLineED
      @NineLineED Před měsícem +12

      I have reported an issue with the damage I am seeing with the Belouga. Even in a large group of vehicles it doesn't seem to hit much.

    • @sgtjonzo
      @sgtjonzo Před měsícem +7

      real one right here

    • @NineLineED
      @NineLineED Před měsícem +5

      Ship damage is being worked on, both visually and what kind of damage you will see. Its possible for a large ship to take a hit from one weapon and survive, but modelling of system damage and other things is important.

  • @MoleUK1
    @MoleUK1 Před měsícem +27

    "IRL it died in two hits" Oooof lol.

  • @horticultural_industries
    @horticultural_industries Před měsícem +13

    Digital Cockpit Simulator

    • @drush525
      @drush525 Před měsícem

      "COMBAT" NOT "COCKPIT ".

    • @horticultural_industries
      @horticultural_industries Před měsícem

      @@drush525 yeah it was a joke about how ED focuses on making really high quality cockpits but not on other aspects of the game like ai or a damage model

  • @macieksoft
    @macieksoft Před měsícem +2

    DCS is sometimes funky when it comes to damage. Seems like most of APCs die with a single APKWS hit. BMP-1 takes 1 to 2 hits from the side to die. Meanwhile helicopters like Mi-24 and Mi-8 may take 3 to 4 and continue flying...

  • @Orthopandora
    @Orthopandora Před měsícem

    Apart from the fuel depot seems nice and realistic then 👍

  • @markruhland3035
    @markruhland3035 Před 25 dny

    I would say this is generally a fair assessment.

  • @sebastienhebert6794
    @sebastienhebert6794 Před měsícem +16

    One of the best DCS videos I've seen...in a long time.. maybe Ever! Yes, pls fix ED. Thanks

    • @harryballer4239
      @harryballer4239 Před měsícem

      They have responded to the ticket with this video attached to it. Was sent to their dev team.

    • @sebastienhebert6794
      @sebastienhebert6794 Před měsícem

      @@harryballer4239 very nice. Thanks for doing this for us! I'm sure your work will help move things along.

    • @HobelDcs
      @HobelDcs Před měsícem


      Basically everything in the video has been reported and accepted in the ED forum for years, but unfortunately without any changes.

  • @WolfyBoi7521
    @WolfyBoi7521 Před měsícem +7

    It's okay, they are working on it, we'll get a better damage model sometime in the next 2 weeks

    • @odysseus9797
      @odysseus9797 Před měsícem +1

      In the next 2years more likely

    • @LongTran-em6hc
      @LongTran-em6hc Před měsícem +1

      2 years, lol
      Make it 2 decades, and I am not even joking.
      The damage model we have now is from LOMAC, early 2000s

    • @user-ve4pn8nw2j
      @user-ve4pn8nw2j Před měsícem

      Its 2 week now 😂

  • @DerekWilsonProgrammer
    @DerekWilsonProgrammer Před měsícem +6

    So much this. If you miss by 1 ft, well its still alive, no splash damage, no fragment damage, no overpressure, nothing.

    • @NineLineED
      @NineLineED Před měsícem +2

      Fragmentation is in progress right now, thanks.

    • @pd28cat
      @pd28cat Před měsícem

      @@NineLineEDIs this bignewy talking

  • @kilianconn5091
    @kilianconn5091 Před 28 dny

    This is what you paid for, don't complain.

  • @mro9466
    @mro9466 Před měsícem +10

    ~Batman, probably

    • @oczhaal
      @oczhaal Před měsícem +1

      BMS is outdated, VTOL VR is an arcade game. You can't compare them to the extent of DCS.

  • @ds6899
    @ds6899 Před měsícem

    Yeah also the complete lack of splash damage or frag damage really upsets me

  • @nos_leN150
    @nos_leN150 Před měsícem

    If you want realism in those aspects, go play Command Modern Operations.

  • @Hustler9g
    @Hustler9g Před měsícem +18

    Life gets a lot easier when you just accept DCS as a game and stop worrying about it as a simulator for aircraft we will never fly anyways. Unfortunate, but its where the true happiness lies.

    • @Garuda1_AC6
      @Garuda1_AC6 Před měsícem +4

      But the reason that we play this game is to actually experience what we can't.
      Hence why the word "simulator" exists in "DCS"

    • @Hustler9g
      @Hustler9g Před měsícem +2

      @@Garuda1_AC6 yeah I get it trust me but you will only be disappointed if you can't accept its massively flawed

    • @canconservative8976
      @canconservative8976 Před měsícem +2

      I guess you weren't aware that REAL LIFE Air Force Pilots fly DCS and praise many aspects of it... not everything is perfect, yet.

    • @Hustler9g
      @Hustler9g Před měsícem

      ​@@canconservative8976 I am aware but a couple of things on that. From what I remember, It's the Air national guard, it's only the A10 and they don't use the version of DCS we do. Also pretty sure they don't use it for much other than procedural training so the specific performance of weapons and the airframe don't particularly matter

    • @canconservative8976
      @canconservative8976 Před měsícem

      @@Hustler9g True... maybe that's why it's called DCS "WORLD"...and in that world I don't think anybody expects real life, in fact it's better than RL because you can't die!
      That said I get your point about people complaining because of unrealistic expectations..

  • @joeyel8256
    @joeyel8256 Před měsícem

    I literally don't have this problem at all

  • @CalculateDevice
    @CalculateDevice Před měsícem

    И даже поле таких ошибок, пришедших с новым обновлением, многие почему-то не спешат откатиться на предыдущую версию.

    • @theeltea
      @theeltea Před měsícem

      потому что они играют в МП

    • @CalculateDevice
      @CalculateDevice Před měsícem

      @@theeltea Вы имеете ввиду сетевую игру? Ну а в чём проблема? Если у вас закрытое сообщество (самые интересные сервера как правило под паролем), то можно всем откатиться на определённую стабильную версию и играть в неё. Можно даже иметь на компьютере сразу две версии, как я собственно и сделал.

    • @theeltea
      @theeltea Před měsícem

      @@CalculateDevice Сколько лет задалбывали парадигмой OB/Release и наконец-то от этой шизофрении ушли - так оказывается есть упоротые, которые ещё это поддерживают.
      Не надо никуда откатываться. На старых версиях такая же уйма багов так что хрен редьки не слаще. А иметь на компьютере две версии это ещё больший сатанизм, учитывая что все ТВД и модули весят уже под терабайт.
      И таки да, люди на пабликах в основном летают. Никаких "интересных серверов" под паролями нет. Есть просто миссии которые летают приватно.

  • @user-ve4pn8nw2j
    @user-ve4pn8nw2j Před měsícem

    Yes its to bad and shameless, why dont do it like arma 3 and squad.

  • @TH-rr9bq
    @TH-rr9bq Před měsícem +2

    Eagle Dynamics need to stop focusing on third party modules and actually focus on the actual game itself! This is beyond a joke

  • @joaojosevaldo
    @joaojosevaldo Před měsícem

    russian bias am i right

  • @MrKkaeder
    @MrKkaeder Před měsícem

    Man this video is right up there with that one about being able to take off from the super carrier! Nice work

  • @spaghetti9845
    @spaghetti9845 Před měsícem +1

    Looks pretty normal to me..

  • @drush525
    @drush525 Před měsícem +1

    Such an insanely detailed Sim, yet some aspects look like a 3 year old with a broken Crayon animated. Com'on you guys can at least try to model in some realistic explosions, smoke and fire.