The Age of Ichiro | Dorktown
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- Ichiro Suzuki was the most unconventional and electrifying baseball player of the 21st century. During the 2000s, he and the Mariners pieced together a beautiful, infuriating story.
Corrections:
• 1:41 - The Y-axis labels are incorrect. A-Rod did have more total bases than any other player in this series, but he actually tallied 17 total bases.
• 3:30 - Script error. The Mariners lost Randy Johnson one year and Ken Griffey Jr. the next, not the other way around.
• 29:10 - Typo. Winn’s OPS was 1.071, not .1071.
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Ichiro not knowing who Tom Brady is has got to be the most savage move ever.
@Harry Engel that was in 2018
@Harry Engel article says it was from 2017
@Harry Engel No that was in 2017.
Tom Brady? Never heard of her..
Go cougs
“What’ll you do when you retire?”
“I’ll think I’ll just die”
What a freaking legend
He once stated that he wouldnt retire until he was walking with a cane
Ichiro was the "I guess I'll just die" meme before it was even a thing.
Well he's not wrong, most people do die after they retire, it's a question of the timing I guess.
Ichiro is Toru Yano's favorite baseball player.
@@evrbody I never realized until now I needed a Jon video centered around wrestling.
My Little Ichiro Story:
I remember in 2017 when Ichiro was in Miami and close to retiring. I was at a game in Philadelphia with my friend. The game got rained out before it even started. As we were walking out through the concourse I noticed someone working out on the field in the rain. It was Ichiro. We walked down to the field and for the next 30 minutes we watched Ichiro workout on a soaked field, in pouring rain, 2 hours before a game that now was not evening going to be played. This was nothing left to prove, 3,000 hit, first ballot Hall of Famer, Ichiro, busting his ass in the rain for a team that was on their way to winning only 77 games He then signed an autograph for a little girl who had waited all this time with her parents as well standing near us. Such an unbelievable player with an absurd work ethic. Best pure hitter of all time.
Was that game a night where tickets were cheaper if you wore Eagles apparel?
@@HWEWSWEW ok boomer
It is for comments such as these that I still come daringly to the YT comments
@@jtcmule3336 Truth hurts, ain't it?
@@namesurname7172 ok boomer
Another story I read about Ichiro: Upon being assigned #51 (Which had been Randy Johnson's number), he apparently contacted Johnson himself to say that he would "not bring shame" to his jersey number.
Well that's an understatement.
Was gonna like, but like counter is at 510, and that just seems appropriate.
thats like beyond being japanese, holy hell lol
Does anybody knows if this is fact, can this be real and checked??! I will try, later
just another way the Mariners screwed over Johnson who they apparently hated for almost killing himself to ensure the team could continue to exist.
Nobody:
Ichiros dog: don’t tell anyone my name
ikkyu
you never heard it from me
Dusty and I might never hear from you again if [REDACTED] finds you
Harry Engel it was “summer in Atlanta is hotter than two rats in a fucking sock” I thought
@Harry Engel I thought it was ten rats fucking in a wool sock
I heard you mention me in an interview today. Don't make that mistake again, Ichiro.
“Why would he run when I was going to throw him out?” is one of the coldest quotes of all time
His body language after that throw is everything
czcams.com/video/WYAxk01E404/video.htmlm51s
The throw that gave him the nickname of the laser beam
I was gonna quote this but it was already done. BTW, who the fuck thinks they are gonna throw out a runner at third base from right field?
Ichiro: "Why did he drink milk but didn't milk the cow himself?"
Me: "I don't fucking know? I just whoop when the relievers are warming up."
Love that quote. the mind of a winner
Dudes colder than most snipers
"I don't have my dog's permission..." is both the funniest and most deadpan asshole response to such an innocuous question. LOVE IT.
So that was the inspiration of his backyard baseball 03 quote?
"Why should I stretch? Does a cheetah stretch before it catches its prey?" - Ken Griffey Jr. (Gets injured for all the second half of his career
Ichiro - stretches constantly - plays and stays healthy till 45.
Remember to stretch kids.
Ichi- is still stretching and still playing.....
I'm pretty sure cheetahs stretch a lot, like any other cat, BTW... o.O
I remember this refrain about Griffey back in the 90s and in retrospect it holds up.
Randy Moss said similar things and that worked out pretty okay. (He really could have played longer though)
KGjr's response is positively silly considering cats large and small stretch all the damn time.
This is a nice reminder that the only reason Pete Rose is still referred to as the Hit King is because Ichiro played his first nine seasons in Japan.
yep, if ichiro just comes to MLB at age 20, he only needs 1130-something hits to pass Rose. if he plays 7 seasons, he only needs to average 160 or so hits a year. easy money. he would have been WELL over 4500. Legend of a player and one of the funnest athletes ive ever watched.
@@buckfuttler2877 unique, and fun to watch whether at the plate or in the field... And his arm, it was built up just from repetition, from throwing, he's probably the slightest player I've ever seen with an A+ arm. Just a legend.
@Joe Good point! I hated Pete's smugness around the time Ichiro was going to break Pete hits record, saying that it didn't count cause Ichiro played in Japan. What hog wash! I love Pete Rose, but I love Ichiro even more because of his spirit!
@Robert James Fischer yeah... he is... if you think getting those hits in Japan means they don't count, you're racist.
No respect for a man that has no respect for others. Pete might be hit king, but what is a king to a god?
This is not a documentary, it's a spiritual and mental experience.
Amen!
We must spread the gospel of the true lord and savior Jon Bois
These videos make me recognize the futility of life and the beauty of that futility.
7 minutes... No ichiro...it's just an existential crisis
For sure.
I grew up in Washington, my whole family did. My aunt knew a guy who did garage work for Ichiro. He noticed Ichiro’s bat collection and starting swinging them, what he didn’t know was that Ichiro had a camera system in his garage and saw him do it. Ichiro responded by sending the guy an autographed bat and a 100 dollar gift certificate to the Cheesecake Factory. That was the type of dude he was!
This is such an awesome story
“How did you throw out Terrence Long at 3rd?”
“It was hit right to me. Why did he run when I was going to throw him out”
ABSOLUTE. BADASS.
Ichiro and Takezaki Suenaga know each other’s Cell phone #
Imagine if the 73-9 Warriors lost to 5 against the Thunder then randomly dipped. Those are the 2001 Seattle Mariners.
That actually came close to happening to a pount. The Thunder blew opportunities in Game Five. Had the Thunder at least made the Finals, then Kevin Durant probably would have stayed. Had the Warriors basically kept the team the same, and never added Durant then there is a very good chance they would not of returned to the finals, or win another title.
Not to mention the mariners had back to back 93 win seasons and missed the playoffs both times. Super Unlucky.
Imagine if the 16-0 Patriots didn't win the Superbowl. oh wait-
What team would you say beat the Mariners to dismantle them
They literally made the finals without Durant last year
This despite the fact they gave up all their bench depth and a starting caliber SF to get Durant
“The mariners are not competitors. They are protagonists” is the most mariners way to describe the mariners and I’m here for it
Christopher Simons so they’re basically Ash Ketchum
That was truly a gem of a line,
This series has already delivered some of the rawest, most divine writing I have heard in any medium about sports, but that line truly nails it.
@@ellmuffin pppp
@Anony Moose And trading any player that convinced you they might have been into something. That's my favorite part.
That five second pause before the 01’ season hit different when you knew exactly where it was going
I can’t get enough of the way they built that up and the music in the background. I keep coming back just for that lol.
Can we just take a moment here to point out how brilliant this line is: "Unless you let those limits go, you're an astronaut who brought your wallet." Damn.
And it's directly followed by a potentially even better line: "The seattle mariners are not competitors. They're protagonists."
I have no idea what that means
Being an astronaut who brought your wallet means that you've started on a new adventure but you're still stuck in old ways of thinking. An astronaut doesn't need a wallet; what are they going to buy in space? The astronaut shouldn't be bound to the mundane details of normal, everyday life, like you and me.
Only Jon Bois could get me scared of a green upwards line
5:08 Had me dead 😂😂😂
I would have liked this comment but its showing 222; that's Pretty Good.
After breaking Sisler's record, Ichiro visited his grave that offseason
Sisler's daughter was also in attendance at the game, and Ichiro had a word with her as well while the game was ongoing. Play stopped for 3 or 4 minutes (it was, after all, an all-time record being broken). The full clip of the moment, which understandably doesn't fit into a format like this, shows Dave exercising a deeply underappreciated skill for commentators -- knowing when to shut the fuck up. He made an excited call of what happened (which we do see in this video) then for well over a minute he just let the scene play out on its own. It was poetry all itself.
It's the ultimate showing of respect.
It kinda reminds me of what happened at the Brazilian Grand Prix last year, The head of Honda's F1 division visited Ayrton Senna's grave the week before the race. Senna was always associated with McLaren and Honda, he was even friends with Soichiro Honda, the company's founder. That weekend, teams running Honda engines finished 1st and 2nd, with a McLaren rounding out the podium.
The Kicker? It was on what would have been Soichiro Honda's 113th birthday.
he actually pissed on his grave
@Harry Engel He had a pretty brutal May in 2011 (22 hits, .210 average). Had he matched his April production (39 hits), he would have reached 201.
I appreciated the way he paid his respects to the Sisler family.
The real championship is the friends we made along the way
@Harry Engel It's an anime joke
@Harry Engel I want that question answered as well
@@danballe every shounen ever made
@@firmanchristiansianturi4794 gay
@@danballe its from a Destiny 2 this week at bungie blogpost from Deej a community manager . At a low point a few months after its release.
I've been Mariners fan my entire life. I legit started sobbing at the 23 minute mark. Those who haven't been with this team for decades don't understand. The Cubs and Red Sox have both been redeemed, and frankly, those teams have other things to celebrate besides winning or losing. Mariners fandom is the nihilist realization that if nothing matters or will ever work out, you can find beauty in the pain.
As a Cubs fan man I was almost about to cry for you guys.
@@nikhilpatel1710 Second! 30+ Years Cubs fan myself
I attended the first (and second) game the Mariners ever played. I witnessed their first run scored (In the second game, the first we were shut out by Frank Tanana) off Nolan Ryan.
I too, am wet in the eyes. There are the people who love Seattle, and then there's everybody else.
Hell yeah brother.
this team reminds me of a lower league soccer team in england
you're shit but still find diamonds in the rough
Imagine if that agreement between Japan and MLB never existed: The Mariners could have had Ichiro, Griffey Jr, A-Rod, Edgar Martinez and Randy Johnson on the SAME TEAM!!!
Kyle Welty ichiro would have most likely had 4,000+ hits
And big papi
And they’d still lose
the point of this video is that it doesn't matter
ichiro would be 10x better than pete rose if that happens
Ichiro is like a Japanese warlord who accidentally time-traveled into the future and decided to take up baseball because he was bored.
I S E K A I
You will never convince me that Ichiro isn't some long-lost direct descendant of Tokugawa.
Naruto
@@tripleoo0 I see him as more like Oda Nobunaga
@@ShadowBaofu Nah if he's anyone, he's Hideyoshi. Calm, cunning, and very direct.
It's hard to overstate how amazing Ichiro was. There will never be a more pure hitter or defensive outfielder in my lifetime. He had zero (0) games with 4 strikeouts. He had more games with 4 hits than he had games with 3 strikeouts. After that throw so soon after joining the MLB, no one tested his arm ever again. That's why his outfield assists were so low for his career. I am so glad I had grown into loving the game by the time Ichiro joined it.
Zero games with 4 strikeouts? Ever? EVER?!
are you serious?
you can’t be serious.
That doesn’t seem possible.
I watched some of Ricky Henderson last years. and to echo Alex & Jon thoughts it is Ichiro and Henderson the most exiting baseball players in the last decades of the previous century and the first ones of the current
No one ran on Ichiro... Except for fellow cannon arm Vlad Guerrero Sr.
@@RobertJW Hey, it's not that hard, Tony Gwynn did the same thing after all. /s
And he started in mlb age 27. Imagine if he soto'd. 4k hits easy.
I"m not gonna lie the intro to 2001 with just going up the graph of wins is really well made and entertaining
Ichiro: “If I’m in a slump, I ask myself for advice”
LOL what a legend
That's tremendous advice to seek
Giga chad incarnate
And we haven't even heard the name "Felix Hernandez" yet ...
That’ll be saved for part 6! 👀
@Harry Engel Absolutely. I meant more from the perspective of the agony and the ecstasy of being a Mariners fan. Felix, despite all his faults (such as never taking off-season conditioning all that seriously) is the sort of tragic hero/protagonist that Jon and Alex are going to get so much out of. Can't wait, even though I know how it ends (I was there last September to say goodbye).
TheRedpantherman not an m’s fan but seeing king felix in a braves uniform is really weird. makes me feel old. ik this isn’t the same comparison but chris sale was my favorite player on the white sox and seeing him on the red sox is just reminding me how much time actually passes.
I know, I thought maybe they'd introduce him at the end of this part like they did with Ichiro last episode but guess we'll have to wait till next week
@Harry Engel So very cool that you got to see it. What makes it so even more incredible in my mind is the utter joke of a lineup that the Mariners ran out that day. A getaway game against the Devil Rays and magic happens. Just incredible.
Totally agree. Felix could have been more, it could have ended differently, but I can't help but be grateful to see him pitch for the M's.
I'm glad Dave Neihaus got to see Ichiro play for several years before he passed
This series has been genuinely amazing. I'm Australian, have absolutely no interest in MLB and barely knew the Mariners existed before this. But now, for better or worse, I am a life-long M's fan. Thank you, Mr Bois.
^
Yo same, I'm Indian, no knowledge of baseball at all! And after watching this 5 times and reading books, I now stay up late to stream some nice Mariner baseball
You’ll be disappointed, but if they win, you’ll have earned it. 😏
The more I learn about the Mariners, the more they start to feel like some sort of ancient myth that can't possibly be real.
This is the way.
*nods in Mariner fan*...
That’s how I feel about the Yankees. Every team that gets covered in these videos seem to lose to the Yankees in the playoffs at some point
They are the mlbs little league team all grown up.
lol! even life long mariner fans pinch ourselves just to hope it's all a bad dream. There really is a curse running around in that stadium
Don’t lie. You’ve been waiting for Jon Bois to narrate Ichiro’s career.
I'd listen to Jon Bois narrate about Bob's Uecker's career, even if it only covered his playing days.
That moment was such a high in this series that i dnt want to finish it cause is not as exciting any more
@@Jbot123 Bob Uecker's career? Totally. Hell, I'd even listen to Jon Bois narrate about Bob Saget's career!
"They were among the best in MLB at everything, scoring more runs than everyone and allowing fewer runs than everyone."
Goodthing that there were no Special Teams in Baseball
2010 chargers punching air rn
Doesn’t matter, still lost :(
I understood that reference.
@@cflow2013 Who cares
I'm a European who has never seen an MLB game in my entire life. This series was truly thrilling. Even emotional. Thank you.
Have you seen a baseball game yet?
@@skipbayless557 Haha, I actually have! Thanks for asking!
Since the Age of Ichiro, I have coincidentally moved from Europe to Boston. So now I have a few Red Sox games under my belt. Even saw Ohtani make a 9th inning game-winning homer for the Angels at Fenway, which was awesome. Although the RS lost.
I still don't fully appreciate the nuances of the game, but I enjoy drinking beers and watching important plays on the replay screen.
@@MichaelMartinNielsen good to see your enjoying America’s pastime. It’s an amazing sport and I’m glad you like it.
"Like an astronaut who brought his wallet"
wtf how do you come up with that
Bois is a poet
It was such an astonishingly good simile that I had to pause and look it up to see if Bois had coined it or was quoting it.
“We’ve entered another realm here, one that’s far larger and doesn’t operate on the dead currency of winning and losing” another realm and dead currency might be the tie in here but who cares, I just loved the surrealism of Bois mentioning an astronaut and his wallet.
Uh...is Jon Bois one of the best writers of our time or?
Welcome to the Mariners. Here you can see our team slogan: "Success is irrelevant"
gretchman They’ve got nothing on the Detroit Lions. Wait another 20 years before you start complaining.
@@discosecret6363 people know who the Lions are at least. They may be bad, but they're not obscure.
How many times have the lions made the playoffs
"We *aren't* serious about success"
‘we’re serious about the irrelevance of success’
I get tears in my eyes every time I see Ichiro’s record-breaking hit (258). As a Vietnamese, watching baseball when I was young was uninteresting, because I had no role models (no baseball players were Viet), but seeing another Asian dominate a sport with not only talent but respect made me so happy, and finally gave me an idol that I could look up to and support. Still my favorite player of any sport after so many years. Baseball misses you, Ichiro!
Ichiro made it bearable to be a Mariners fan all these years
Oh god isn't that the truth, even in the absolute throws of the worst of it, Ichiro made it so easy to watch.
ichiro
Japan’s secret slugger
🎤🐟
Ichiro
I heard this in Frank Thomas and Pete Rose's voices.
イチロー
Can’t believe it’s almost over already 😔I want it to be a 60 part documentary
@@user-uo8jt9du9r its not THAT big but thanks buddy
Yes plz
After part 60 it would be like "I want this to be a 200 part documentary"
They haven't even talked about King Felix yet!?!!
You know Jon Bois is gonna do it one day.
Might be an incredibly detailed documentary of curling at the 1924 Winter Olympics, but we'll get it.
I love Ichiro so much, I don't even hold being a Yankee against him.
Ichiro "gets a double off a bunt' Suzuki
As an Angels fan, I hated Ichiro.
As a baseball fan, I miss him.
I kinda feel the same about Vlad. No lie.
Exactly how I feel as an A's fan.
For both Ichiro and Vlad.
@@chicagoakland Same. I hated how much I loved Ichiro. Every time it was late in August and the A's were (as always) somehow over- or under-performing and yet STILL in the playoff hunt, I used to LOATHE seeing Ichiro step up to the plate late in games. Then, when the inevitable hit came, I would just have to sigh and appreciate what I had witnessed and was a part of.
In Edgar's twilight season, Mariners broadcasters occasionally asked opposing fans what they thought of him. I'll never forget one fan -- mind you, he said this with a broad smile on his face and with a tone that made it clear it was a *serious* compliment -- saying "He's a real Yankee killer, hate him!"
As an Angels fan you probably are seeing the future of trout. Lol.
The fact this is 47+ minutes long makes the wait even more worth it...
Should have pushed it to exactly 51:00. Alas.
I read your comment then had to look back up at the video because it didn't feel like 47 minutes *at all.* I just got lost in this where time just completely faded away because the story, how well it's being told, and everything else fully enveloped me.
And I enjoyed it immensely.
@@harktheheral Jon actually mentioned that on twitter and he was disappointed he and Alex couldn't stretch it out that long.
47:20 to be exact
Why am I crying...
I got to meet Ichiro on the field once before a game.. He was so humble, happy to hang around for a few minutes with some middle school kids and take pictures. I shook his hand and just involuntarily bowed my head too, and he smiled at me and gave a super sharp, deep bow. He was so, so on it during his warm ups.. all of us were walking around school imitating that warmup motion he does for weeks, lol. All time Seattle legend 💙
I lived in Seattle for 15 years. I don't anymore, but I look back on my days there with fondness. The whole "they needed to go home thing" has a simple answer. It's the rain. I love rain, but not everybody does.
I don't know what awards CZcams series are even eligible for, but this should win them all.
It wasn't really an award, but productions like this typically got one to feature in the yearly Rewind. Back before it turned into a joke.
Dead serious, is a video essay eligible for a pulitzer?
@@apeacebone6499 I reviewed the Pulitzer Prize rules of entry for the journalism category, and I think yes, they do. Honestly, if they actually do "prize original groundbreaking reporting, vivid writing and, where appropriate, multimedia storytelling," as claimed by the website, then I'd say they have a strong case. I'd love to see Jon and Alex get a shot!
Welcome to Join Bois fandom
When he revealed Jr. in 2009 a huge smile broke out on my face
It was perfectly done
I was already cracking up at the Nutcracker thing and that made it so much better.
When I realized this is part 5 of 6 one disappeared from mine. They can just end the series here with wistful reflection on a future that never was, right? Surely the last 10 seasons of the Mariners have no relevance to the human experience, and Jon Bois definitely won't use them to tell us what we are.
True .. I thought it may be Felix. He was that way with mr Beltre too.
Thanks for the content guys. Having been born in Seattle in 68 and spending all but a half dozen in the PNW, I have never wavered in my love for all sports Seattle. As my battle with terminal cancer winds down, a piece like this, especially the fan philosophy is a real treat. Your team sorta feels like your kids as you get older and at the end of the day you just want them to have an opportunity to succeed and enjoy what they do. I think Seattle's organizations over these decades has done reasonably well at providing these conditions and I think old Seattle fans can take pride in the fact that they have proven tireless and unconditional in their love for these teams. Great series, thanks again.
Did you lose your fight? ;_;
God bless you sir
May peace find you
Goddammit, please tell us that you survived against all odds to see the Mariners 2022 season 😢
I saw Ichiro play live once, moved like angel, swung like a champ, played with great vigor. A star!
I smiled so big when niehaus was screaming about blowers prediction
I listened to that game on the radio. That was something else!
Ha ha I laughed out loud at 3 am in the morning here in Denmark! What a gem of a story!
Jon Bois is literally the goat when it comes to these documentaries
Perhaps the greatest sportswriter of our generation
The David attenborough of sports
EmpLemon is pretty good at this stuff too. I watched his Dale Earnhardt documentary (I don't watch or have ever cared about NASCAR) and it was amazing.
@@danlorett2184 Emp Lemon is great, but it is clear he's learned from watching Jon and RedLetter Media. Never Ever is an amazing essay series, you might say it's Pretty Good
Give Alex Rubenstein some credit too
Jon's f-bomb at 5:10 reminds me of how they used f-bombs on Breaking Bad, Mad Men and Bojack Horseman. They get one per season and it's always awesome.
3:22 “...but he was on his own road now.”
In the unique hellscape that has been 2020, this series has meant so much to me. That line meant the most of all, because it encapsulates what I’m going through. I’m on my own road now too, we all are, navigating uncharted waters and dealing with unforeseen circumstances. Best of luck to all of us on our own roads.
The line 'unless you let those limits go, you're an astronaut who brought your wallet' is such great writing. I know Jon loves working with multimedia formats, but if he wrote a book I'd be all over it.
We just need jon to survive to the point when picture books make a come back in vr
"Out of nowhere, a suddenly Jacked Boone"
I see what you did there
I actually forgot about Boone until this video.
''Twas the Juice
must've started eating his vegetables and taking his vitamins.
Cammy was also juiced.. take look at his body when he played for ChiSox some years before... SKINNY!
@@jalexanderbill and well-balanced breakfasts!
Beejays is the greatest name for a sports team in the history of ever.
Thank you! I had to scroll way too far to find this comment.
The Connecticut Yard Goats would like a word... :-)
@@blue_manatee3895 funny u say that. Im a huge minor league baseball junkie. I live a block away from the Reading "fightin phils," formerly known as the Reading Phillies. Its been 8 years since they changed the name and made that stupid fucking ostrich the main logo and it still pisses me off lol
@@ralphganteriii9363 Still and all, you are so lucky to live so close to a professional baseball field, albeit a minor league one!
41:15 "I already had 3 kids, I don't want anymore" LMAO
I laughed way too much. 😂 beltre a legend
26:04 "The Seattle Mariners are not competitors they're protagonists" ---(chills down my spine) And from now on!!! I will take this sentence to my grave and use it everytime some asks me "why are you a Mariners fan? they haven't won anything" HMB....let me tell you something
@Harry Engel Yes! Universally..... more so than the Buffalo Bills...more so than the Cleveland Indians, the team of "Major League".
I take the voodoo approach... .The M's are cursed, having been born of the shotgun marriage through lawsuit between the American League and the city, that has doomed us to astonishingly bad seasons followed with periods of teasing … potential greatness in the form of individual greatness.... yet flaws in other areas of the team...to drive us all insane.
Absolutely agree.. just didn't give it as much thought before this video series! God bless Dave Niehaus! My oh MY!
Honestly... anyone asking a question in that manner is not someone whose opinion on sports fandom I'd value
@@xbomberbetschx that's probably something my nephew's or even my son would say :P kids these days
Seattle's Bizarre Adventure Part 5: Golden Ichiro
Lifelong Ms fan here (since that first game in 1977). I was in the park when he broke Sisler's record. Watching Ichiro play baseball (both in person, and on the regular through local TV) was truly a privilege that I will always treasure. Love this series -- thanks to the guys who produced it.
From the perspective of a Met fan who saw him only infrequently, Ichiro seems like the ideal of a baseball player. Dude just shines. The numbers certainly speak loudly, but there's more to it than that. He doesn't just check all the boxes; he checks them all *perfectly*. It's pure class, is what it is -- hard to pin down, but you know it when you see it.
As a big film nerd I'd never have thought I could be impressed by the cinematography of what essentially is, well, a calendar full of charts, yet here we are.
Eric Glass if Root Sports doesn't broadcast this they have failed.
The simplicity of this cinematography is beautiful:
When they zoom out of the "calendar" (I want to call it a statistic "tapestry"), it shows you the entire context (& the bottom-line of sports - wins/losses).
When they zoom in to the stats, they show you the fine thread/moments that wove this tapestry.
For this reason, I cannot get enough of Jon Bois' work with "Dorktown" & "Chart Party."
So I'm not alone???
@@CS2architecture have you read 17776? it's full of incredible moments like that
@@CS2architecture Its all about the Context
Jon: "We've entered another realm here."
Me: "THE FUMBLE DIMENSION?!?!"
Nice
Welcome to Dorktown. Here, we're always having a Chart Party. At the party, there's always a Card Show, and it was...Pretty Good. Want to visit us? Then take a drive to the Fumble Dimension.
👀
@@KofieWhy Damn, I'm sorry for summoning you.
@@KofieWhy we meant no disrespect oh mighty one
Watching for a second time.
That Mike Blowers commentary story is amazing. How many times does a commentator make such a four factor prediction?
Watching for a third time. Wow.
I seee the light!
I like how Alex casually says, "Todd Helton of Mile High Colorado" to throw shade at the fact it's easier to hit homeruns there
ichiro and griffeys friendship is the wholesome content i needed at this time
Smoky Room You mean Jr’s and Buhner’s? They are BEST friends.
I never realize how true the joke was that the Mariners are the farm team for the rest of MLB until this video.
There's a subreddit dedicated to it :[
www.reddit.com/r/FormerMs/
So are the Marlins, but they've actually won something.
So are the Rays.
OKC in the NBA
@@Guoldisney More like the current Rockets. Never winning anything.
"Why did he run when I was going to throw him out"
*BALLER*
i grew up with this era of the mariners... i remember when we were little playing wiffle ball in the street we’d all try to mimic ichiro’s at bat routine - we all idolized him, even the ones like me who only followed baseball casually
Ichiro, a-rod, randy, Edgar, Griffey, Hernandez, Beltran, Ortiz. Jesus Christ
and they still can't fuckin win lmao
Oh, and Felix Hernandez, the best pitcher by WAR during the decade following his debut in 2004
I don't think Jesus Christ was ever under contract with the Mariners.
THANKS BAVASI.
Also add Beltran 😣😣
And Adrian Beltre
Imagine prime Ken Griffey Jr, A Rod, Randy Johnson, Ichiro all on the team at once
162-0, swept in the ALDS
Don’t forget if they keep Ortiz.
Don't forget edgar martinez
Yeah, I sometimes tried to do a dream-lineup of Boston Red Sox (as they're the team I support). They can be stacked, granted they had much more time to get great players, But you have things like Carl Yastrzemski being a second-liner. And yet, I'm not sure they could defeat those Mariners...
I'm an A's fan so I didn't know about those guys until the video. Heck I didn't know 3/4 of the ppl I listed were on the Mariners. Ken Griffey was on a different team (maybe Reds) in Backyard Baseball. Anyways good luck hope you guys get a Series soon.
It's not even a year since I became a baseball fan, but the part when Ichiro and Junior being happy together in their late 30's brought tears to my eye..
So awesome..
Today in 2022 the Mariners have finally made it back to the playoffs. Happy to say I happened to be watching around the 23:00 mark when the news came through
A team so stacked they didnt even mention John Olerud.
EDHOLLA also it was just before the OBP enlightenment era. if he played a generation later he'd be a superstar
John Olerud was my hero as a kid
@@hisshame I feel like there's definitely a Dorktown-esque video by a different guy about how sweet Johnny O was and all his crazy stats and stuff, I saw it a couple of months back. Search it, it's sweet
“The Mariners aren’t competitors, they’re protagonists.” John, Alex, thank you for giving the world yourselves.
That is rich coming from nerds that probably didn't even play little league
@@jamesgentry13 If that's the attitude you've come out of this series with, I think you missed the point.
@@ThorHC11 nah their snarky criticism of athletes is pretty lame considering
@@jamesgentry13 Them not playing sports does not make their (legitimate) criticisms any less valid. Never mind that they regularly criticize themselves (Jon does this almost all the time).
As a life long Mariners fan I've been watching and rewatching this series with tears in my eyes, not for the staggering lack of success, but for the truly bright and happy moments that have happened, even in the bleakest of years. The Mariners are not a team that wins. That's the Yankees. The Mariners are a team that has fun playing the game. They make their fans love the game not because they love winning the game, but because they love playing and watching the game. I went to my first Mariners game when I was 6 in April 2001, and I've loved the Mariners, but more importantly, I've loved the game, ever since. For most of their history the Mariners have embodied MLB's slogan "Let the Kids Play", long before so many other teams did, and long before the MLB tried to outgrow it's stuffy, crotchety BBWAA leanings. Thank you for this series. Thank you for the research and the time you've taken to truly capture the essence of a team that so many overlook, dismiss and dislike. And I look forward to the conclusion of this series.
30:19 - As of the writing of this comment, the 2021 Mariners are on pace for 88 wins... and currently sit with a run differential of -56 (2007 Mariners: -19)
Ichiro's dog: Keep my name out your mouth
18:10 "since hes a cyborg" is probably the realest thing ive heard about ichiro suzuki
Don't fool everyone; Ichiro was always real. But, yes. He is also the best cyborg, ever.
Best Record in the Nba:Warriors 73-9 (Lost the finals)
Best nfl record:Pstriots 16-0 (lost in the Superbowl)
Best mlb record: Mariners 116 wins (lost alcs)
Actually, though the Mariners who won 116 games were a titanic team and maybe the best ever, the record is shared with the 1906 Cubs, who only played 152 games to do it (116-36), so the edge goes to the team from the dawn of modern baseball. I don't think that takes anything away from the 2001 Mariners. Interesting that none of these superlative teams won the championship game or series. Neither did the 1906 Cubs, who were upset by the White Sox. Can you imagine how delerious Chicago's baseball fans must have been that year? The Cubs did win it all the next two years.
@@markfrommaryland3825 that's true
When Ichiro arrived in the league in 2001, he quickly became my favorite player! I even played and batted like him in little league and pickup games. It helped that I had really good speed and a great arm as well. As a Yankee fan, this made for an interesting time when they played Seattle. I always wanted Ichiro to go 5-5 and for the Yanks to win. When Ichiro came to the Yankees in 2012, it was amazing! I was finally able to see him play much more often. There will never be another Ichiro, he was special and unique in so many ways. Thank you for the memories, Wizard!
Does everyone here think that Ichiro Suzuki will be inducted to the Hall of Fame unanimously the moment he's eligible? ... The best quote from Ichiro is "The ball was hit right to me. Why did he run when I was going to throw him out?" Now that's a man with confidence in his ability. It also blows my mind at what could have been if A-Rod, Jr, Randy & Ichiro would have played at the same time, could they have been a dynasty in the making?
the whole point of this video is that it doesnt matter, the Mariners were never going to be a contender
I don't think he'll get in unanimously, because it has only ever happened once, but he is definitely a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Unanimous basically never happens because writers are idiots.
And Edgar, and Buhner, and David Ortiz.
@@wvu05 yeah, there's a few stubborn morons who won't vote for ANY first year nomination.
I don’t want this series to be over
Same thing I said about 17776, Pretty Good, even Card Show. Jon is an amazing content creator. I enjoy having Alex along for the story, too.
Bianca Estrella CARD SHOW WAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST!!!!
Part 7 will come when they win the Championship.
Jon Michael Walters I don’t think CZcams will still be around in 2060
This is already great and has made me appreciate this team but you guys need to make some sort of deal this ESPN and turn this into a 30 for 30 with all their available footage and ability to bring players in for interviews
I cant possibly imagine at this point someone at ESPN and Fox know who he is.......I mean c'mon imagine what these guys could do with real resources.
Jon Bois: The party was over
Me: Ok
Seattle: **wins 116 games**
Me and Jon: Seattle wtf
Seattle: **Gets crushed by the yankees again**
Me: SEATTLE WTF😭😭😭
Yankees fan here. Am I weird for feeling guilty for that beating?
@@nicholastricarico2957 I am too which makes me feel more dead inside
@@Tommuniqo123 First world problems, I suppose. But as a fan of baseball, it was kind of sad to see in retrospect.
This ALSO included the M's letting an opponent come back from down 12 runs. With 3 innings to play. This happens, oh... about every 75 years or so.
Are you a baseball fan? Did you know what was gonna happen?
This is a secret advertisement for the Mariners to get more fans
And its working DAMN well
Same haha
I wasn't much of a baseball fan before quarantine, but this coupled with a pre-existing love for Ichiro's underappreciated play style has done it for me.
@MANCHESTER UNITED Don't care didn't ask
They should make one of these for the chargers next
you're damn right. I was already a Hawks fan, but now I'm also an M's fan
The slow bleed of John Carpenter-esqe music into Ichiro starting around the 7:00 minute mark is absolutely chilling.
I’d just like to point out how perfectly the Mike Blowers prediction is used: for the first time, this wonderful, crazy story has become genuinely sad. And this bit of complete stupidity just turns it around so brilliantly, gets us laughing and smiling again and brings us some happiness to end this episode. Goddammit Jon how do you do this to my emotions
Nothing more mariners than having multiple generational talents at multiple positions in your organization and either wasting their career or watching them win rings on other teams.
Kaminsod the Detroit Lions of baseball.
Or they're Luis Sojo.
To a lesser extent the expos are a little like them but instead of being saved they had to move and get a name change. They could've headed up their rotation with pedro and randy johnson and if they were smart designed their lineup around Geurrero, Alou and Floyd
That Blowers moment was definitely magical
I grew up about an hour and half away from Seattle and the fever the city had with him still remains untouched. My birthday present for 5 or 6 years was going to a Mariners game so I could watch Ichiro! Great memories!
Same. I’m from Olympia. Always used to go there for b-days
I sent this playlist to my dad before I watched the whole thing. Jon just dropped the f bomb. I’m dead
Okay, you've convinced me. I'm a Mariners fan now.
Welcome to hell! R/Mariners is active and depressingly funny, give a look.
Get ready for a wild ride!
One bit of advice, just watch them with one eye until something solid starts happening! ;) (I've been a fan since 1992)
its pain
Welcome to The Sog
This Ichiro/Griffey moment almost bring tears to my eyes...
I love how different the Seattle crowd reaction was between Griffey and A-Rod after they stopped being on the team. Always felt like for A-Rod Seattle was a stepping stone where as for Griffey Seattle was a second home and the crowd felt it.
Been in this city my entire life. The Mariners are dear to my heart and we’ve become somewhat pessimistic as a fan base. This whole episode had me sobbing like a baby. Thanks for bringing back the memories. I know Dave would be proud. Go Dawgs.
How could you not talk about august 5th 2001, where Seattle blew a 12 run lead to the Indians, essentially blowing the all time wins record for a single season.
That's the most Mariners thing I could think of. Being at the top of the world, but never reaching the stars
They gave up 3 in the 7th, 4 in the 8th, 5 in the 9th to let them tie 14-14, then lost it in extras. Sad thing is - I didn't have to look that up.
@@arock not to mention the indians were down to their last strike twice, the first time being down by 5
@Harry Engel I actually didn't know that. This whole game sounds Taylor made for Jon and I'm honestly surprised he's never talked about it
they do hold the all-time record, that would just make it outright. but that is still crazy
Fuck James lofton
As a fan of a long snakebitten team myself, I just cannot express how revolutionary this episode was for the way I think about sports.
As a lifetime Cowboys fan - I still hate myself and want to die.
Padres? Because as a Padres fan, I feel the same lol
Gonna guess Will is a Falcons fan
@@tallbianca no but close
@@Darren67299 at least you have made it to the WS
I used to love watching Ichiro in Japan back in the 90s. The pitchers would actually let him do his long, samurai-style box routine. It was awesome.
28:12 A chart for Every guy named Randy in MLB History - the quality content I didn't even know I craved. This is what sets these guys apart. I feel blessed watching this
I came into this not knowing who Ichiro is, I don't know nothing about no sports, and I'm not about to start. Fifteen minutes in, and this man is my absolute hero. What a legend in every sense.