Processing Homegrown Tobacco in Simple Terms
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- A quick talk through to a simple understanding of growing, curing and processing homegrown tobacco. Tobacco is art, and to some -a lifestyle, there is no way for one man to know all there is about the subject, but I know plenty about growing it at home, so feel free to ask questions in the comments.
Hi, Please can you advise me. I am just getting into growing tobacco in the UK, but I am a bit confused with the finishing process. I have chosen to grow Virginia, burley and harvana tobacco. What I would like to know, what would happen if you decided to air cure Virginia instead of flue curing it? Is the curing process written in stone, or is there any reason why you shouldn't do it differently?
Many thanks, Neil.
Hi Neil -it's been some time since I finished any tobacco, but I'll do my best here. Tobacco is art -and you'll be able to answer your own questions through experience over time. Flue-Curing of Virginia tobacco was discovered by accident, when a barn accidentally caught fire -and in salvaging the tobacco -they found it greatly improved it being exposed to the heat. This is actually a documented event, and we can suppose that prior to it, that Virginia tobacco was not flue-cured, and was air cured -it just became much better as they learned to color it with controlled temperatures.
Fermenting tobacco was also learned by accident, when tobacco was shipped from the colonies back to England it would ferment on the journey. Travelers from England to New England were dismayed to find that tobacco at its source was not the same as they knew it in England -and so it was discovered that packing the leaves tightly into oak barrels and putting it in the damp hold of wooden ships had caused fermentation, another case of accidentally improving tobacco.
And so through experience, tobacco was learned and because of the happy accidents I described; processes were refined. You can do as you like with your tobacco, but the basics must be known. Learn about the process of curing tobacco and the color changes that occur, either by searching information online (which seems much more available now than it did back when I was studying these things) or air cure your leaves as carefully as you can and see what happens in the process. You'll learn the characteristics of your own leaf and what you can get away with to make a smoke you can bear and what ruins a leaf. Air-curing is one thing -it doesn't amount to much more than air drying leaves under some fairly simple conditions and watching over some weeks as the coloring occurs -and then removing the leaves from their hanging place on a Fall day with enough moisture in the air to make the leaves supple enough to handle -but what is next is the most important thing; fermentation.
I copied the idea of the oak barrels in the ships hold and began fermentation by pressing the moist leaves firmly in that oak box for a few hours to form plugs, and then I sliced the pressed plugs into strips that could later be broken into ribbons of tobacco -after I let it age in sealed canning jars. I packed the strips of plug tightly into jars that the fermentation could continue -and I was surprised to find that it didn't take long, perhaps a month -to get a nice pipe out of my jars.
I hope this answers your questions. Best luck my friend.
Havana is for cigars I think that one you air dry.. the rest is in a controlled shed or room .. fuck it man :), trial and error .:) have fun
Neil Newman: nothing is set in stone, you can do any type of tobacco anyway you wish.
Do small batches of tobacco,in different ways, and go, with the one YOU, like the best.
how is your uk baccy doing? My first attempt at it,going nicely. NWO vid downloaded to watch later,interesting,,,,,also your ww vid taken down? Give me a shout. Back to this vbid, thanks for the information. My 1st go with Burley going great,also have some virginia,also going well. 4 turkish only, they do/did not like uk weather. Trying drying in many different settings, lost 3 huge plants due to weather,had sucsess drying green leaves. Learning curve.
@@TweezerAddict Thank you sir, great information.
TheUnknownCat - You are a freaking legend of important knowledge. True credit to your era
Thank you, Schnitzel!
"I'm just some guy with a chicken coop" I died right there 😂 good video
Thank you, Celia!
Really glad I saw this video before I got excited and went out and bought a whole lot of seeds. Very informative and useful information, I knew it would be involved but this has really demystified the process.
The 1911 on the counter added some character to the vid!
in a nutshell this is a really good friggin video.. thanks man.
Happy to be of service, Eddie! Thanks for the kind words.
Thank you for sharing. I haven't grown tobacco since I was little but just started again at home. Its cool how you just rolled with it when the dryer tipped over lol !
Have to start growing my own prices outrageous here in Canada 30 bux for 50g pipe tobacco time to learn about doing it myself thanks for the video!
Happy to be of service!
$89 for 50g in new Zealand
Currently 100$-110$ for a 50g in NZ
With cigar prices skyrocketing in my area, I've started my first tobacco plants this year to roll some of my own with!
@@evmanbutts Awesome
Have you noticed any craving differences between commerical cigarettes with additives versus the Tobacco you've grown yourself? Ive never smoked a cigarette, but I do vape on occasion with E-juice that has nicotine as i find it satisfying but very easy to put aside compared to my one experience with tobacco where i smoked several cheap gas station "cigars" over the course of an evening. I found that these "cigars" always left you craving another one about two hours later. I suspect that theyre similar to a commercial cigarette sans filter.
thank you
you are the frist person who was actually was trying to teach and not hide somthing
Thank you! I'm glad you found the video useful!
@@TweezerAddict are you still making new video s?
@@mistal1408 Not very often. CZcams is really not a very friendly environment for creative video, and it is so much work to do to just have it buried by their various bans and censors. I mostly just post video I have made for products and things like that these days. Tobacco, guns -almost anything of interest in that vein, has been basically banned at the threat of losing the channel, so, it is just not a good environment right now. Maybe someday...
Cool, thanks mate,thumbs up from NZ
Great video! Last years 10 plant crop tasted like dried out dog shit! After watching videos like yours, I'm much more confident about this year's crop, thanks!
I didn't know about that mysterious proprietary stuff, I bet you are 100% right about your suspicions with the health issues. I'm growing my own this year but I only have turkish variety,
Turkish is "sun cure" -study up on how that is done a bit while it grows.
@@TweezerAddict I intend to, thanks. Even if I botch it somewhere during the process, I'm still excited to try this out!
@@BoneCrusherofOlde If you just do your best to cure it as they do where it is grown and produced -and figure out a way to get the cured leaves under a bit of pressure to begin fermentation, I think you'll be pleased with your work.
@@TweezerAddict Will do, the variety I have is called "Bafra" and I have about 15 sprouted and going strong and trying to get a few more sets going for backups. I was a little oblivious to the blending when I ordered the seeds, so I only purchased one type. Luckily where I live (libshit cali) is comparable to the weather in Turkey, so I have that going for me.
@@BoneCrusherofOlde I bet bafra will do well there. I wouldn't worry about blending -just getting through one variety is going to be a ton of work, and still probably the best thing you'll ever smoke.
A big thanks from France , simple , clear & fast explanations , & I bet the 1911 model is there to protect the plants ... lol !
It's a great weight for keeping things from blowing away in the wind! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, and I hope you find it helpful :)
tobacco in a nut shell?/ looked like tobacco in a jar to me.. LOL .. good video and thanks for the info.. really liked the 1911 in the vid.. good job dude, p.s. I thought that oven was an RV refrigerator at the start.. sure looks like one
I laughed out load when the oven fell of the table
I love good comedy!
Thank you for such an informative video, Answered a lot of my questions.
It's funny how the taxes have made us settlers again. Growing our own and processing raw leaves. LOL. Cigarettes used to be so cheap nobody bothered. I just saw in Australia they have a $500 tax per KILO. that's about $250 a lb. They are having a problem with Asian gangs bringing in black market tobacco.
It's up to $675kg and and is being raised by 12.5% in a couple of months.
It's about a $1 a cig here. I think a 25 pack of Marlboro reds is $28.50
When I was a young man you could buy a King Edward cigar for five cents now here in NC USA they are about a buck each thanks to the greed and tax. At least a pack of twenty Marboro are about five bucks at WalMart. I smoke a pipe and the pipe tobacco in five bucks for one and a half ounce pouch.
I like your humour and don't worry about cabinet falling over, great video thanks
Thanks, man!
super quick cure, dip in warm tea... no milk..wring out a few times , sprinkle over white sugar ,knead until dissolved
then cook in a pan turning often until not too dry , not too moist. can be done with fresh leaves as well.
makes it .....tolerable. try a little bit at first
Hmmm sound interesting I'll give it a try,
Also where did you learn this
Great video, but can I get more wind in the monitor?
I hope you clicked the "Pay extra for more wind" button because that is supposed to be an added feature that comes at a premium price.
To really get that "marlboro flavor" you need to add some chocolate. Here is how I do it. I take some hershey syrup and mix it with water and heat it up. you are looking for a very thin liquid. Take your american blend and lightly mist the tobacco then mix it all up and leave it out for a few hours to dry. You don't want your tobacco wet just just a little moisture.
Todd Hayslett Thank you!! I will be trying that (and a few others) when I harvest my first crop. :-)
Todd Hayslett i
Thanks for this video - 5+ years on it is still super handy! (love the 1911 on the bench there too, it's so alien to see when you're from a commie country like NZ)
I am glad that this is helpful -this was hard won knowledge!
NZ is not a communist country. Dude look the word up and learn its meaning
@@borgasmeantime3166 what is hyperbole?
Also, at the moment it is run by the leader of the nz communist youth party. So there's that.
And don't forget to protect yourself from tobacco robbers. :-))
Curing and fermenting the "raw" tobacco helps release excess ammonia and nicotine which makes it safer and "palatable" for smoking.
Yup!
What about for chewing tabacco? I quit smoking and i believe the leaves were meant to be chewed not smoked. Does curing make a smoother chew?
Best part of the vid? The nonchalant 1911 just chilling on the table, haha
Thank you sir. I recently quit smoking and moved to a vaporizer, but already had a few plants growing (well if you want to call it that, it got way too cold here before they got big, so I have a bunch of small green leaves I'm dealing with right now, but at least it's a good learning experience). I'm going to keep a ton of seeds around in case the SHTF, I figure they'd be great for bartering, etc.
Brandon Boyd I thought everyone keeps one of those close by? Thanks for watching.
Great video, loved it. Thank you!
My pleasure!
The beginning of the video caught my eye is that a mini 14 or m14? Thank you for this video!!!
Mini 14! Thanks for watching, hope it helped.
hahaha the oven fell of the table, nice one !!
Thanks for the vid
Thanks for sharing
You're welcome! It's a tough one to figiure out, but I enjoyed doing it.
Very informative stuff man. I'm working on my first grow this year, and there's a lot to learn. I started out with 160+ plants. Maybe a bit much for a first grow.
How did it turn out?
Dude, loved the vid! I live in Brazil a very hot place with a low humidity. The climate here is about 104 fahrenheit. I can get: Virginia Gold, Kentucky, Burley and Latakia. I want to smoke normal cigarettes, you feel me? Not cuban ones. But the problem is that i need some tobacco that fits properly to my country temperatures and etc. Btw, what exactly is Flue cure? I'm starting now, need some tips x)
Thanks!
If I am right, I believe that the flue-cured tobacco is approached with high humidity and high temps. Starting somewhere around 110 Fahrenheit or more and ending around 130-140 Fahrenheit with a starting humidity of no less than 50%, I'd suggest no less than 65%, and ending somewhere around 75% humidity or better at those high of temps(130-140). This is done over a period of weeks. If I've gathered info right than not only is that needed but some cigarette companies would even do a "Final Cure" Basically to set the flavor and burn. To do so, some would increase the heat to near 165-180 Fahrenheit while maintaining a lower humidity level(could be wrong there) but I'm pretty sure they raise the temp at the extreme towards the end to drive off excess humidity to stop the fermentation process and seal that flavor in. Not sure though. Hope that was helpful
Learned more in 15 min here than I did in high school haha
My work here is done. Glad it helped :D
G'day old MATE! Long time since I have been on here! Bought a really old 110 yo 23 WINDOW 3 DOOR house and have been doing bits n pieces to that But I swear we will have to do it up to even get it condemned! Lol, but Lotsa raised ved boxes full of veggies, 23 fruit trees 8 different nuts n13 types of berries are growing well along with the chickens, need some ducks and rabbits next! and water tanks. Am about to begin growing Berley and knew you had stuff up about it! Big fines here for selling it but don't think we get into trouble for like us just growing it for "INSECT REPELLENT" ??? After all ILLEGAL is merely A SICK BIRD?? Life's a whole bunch better when we DONT WATCH TELL LIE VISION? MY BEST HEARTFELT WISHES TO YOU AND THE LITTLE LADY! Stay kewl.
How long do you ferment the tobacco? Where can I get one of those shredders or something like it that is non-electric?
That one is probably a hundred years old. You can tell tobacco is fermented when you test it by smoking some and seeing how you like it. :D
So I can simply ferment my tobacco three different ways and blend them together to make a nice blend to smoke?
This could be tricky in my country so I will have to adapt a few different methods to achieve this. I dont understand the press through. I thought you had to ferment it with head and humidity over a few weeks to achieve a fully cured tobacco? Or is this just for Cigar tobacco?
Ill be growing soon anyway, so ill can keep researching while my plants come along. First timer so any advice would be great! Thanks :)
Also, is the turkish tobacco still fermented or is the sun curing the fermenting part too?
I do Love turkish blends so it would be good to get somthing like that.
kieran cherrington The pressing is what causes the fermentation to begin. Curing is the
first step -it prevents the tobacco from just rotting during
fermentation, as well as changing it into "tobacco" rather than just raw
tobacco leaves. I use the press to make plug tobacco -but packing
tobacco tightly into a jar will begin fermentation also. Thanks for
watching, and keep studying :D
Great video and info presentation - thanks! Bummer about the oven though. Did the fall totally fuck it?
Excellent video
Thanks :)
nice 1911!
I learned some good stuff, thank you
Glad to have helped!
Hi!wich Is the difference in taste between only-dried leaves and fermented?if you smoke them dried you have already the taste of commercial tobacco or smells like burning grass?
You have the most epic intro ever!
Sorry to bother, but I'm struggling with something, I have shredded tobacco, but it isn't pipe just shredded, I make cigarettes of my own with it, I was wondering if you could advise me on the process of changing it's flavor, I am a newbie at this, but I thought of just spraying it with Cacao powder and mixing it up, or Vanilla, but then I got told that water may mold it so will sugar so I should spray it with alcohol, if that's so then
1. What alcohol should I use?
2. What is the process of changing the flavor of it?
3. If it isn't possible to change it's flavor to cacao or vanilla, then how can I just make it taste better naturally?
I know this is asking for too much, but thnx anyways.
I never studied flavoring tobacco, so I would only be guessing. I would trust water more than alcohol though. Sounds like you'll need to keep hunting for an answer and a little experimenting may be in order. Best luck!
American blend works great thanks! Does anyone know the blend for peter stuyvesant red?
Hey could you help me?
I am going to be planting some tobacco plants this month, virginia,burley, Turkish and Havana.
I was just wondering what blend would be best for a rolling tobacco similar to amber leaf. So I could know how many of each plants I would need in the garden.
Thanks
I am going to grow VA bright and Burley for rolling my own cigarettes. I am in South Florida. Not interested in adding Turkish pipe tobacco. So I was looking up curing methods. I wonder if I grow them together if I can get cross breeds. va x Burley and Burley x VA. I was reading about drying va leaves with charcol like the slave that did that and made the leaves turn yellow giving the name bright tobacco. I do not have a flue. Air dry hanging which takes forever and to hang in the hot Florida sun or garadge?, "dashboard dry", smoking or oven dry are my choices. I have hung Calea Zacatuchichi cuttings and the cuttings dried perfect. This is a rare south american bush also known as dream herb.. used in teas and as a tobacco substitute to induce vivid dreams. What I am wondering if I should hang the tobacco leaves upside down in the florida sun or shade like hemp, or put them in my smoker, or the hot garage. I do not want the leaves moldy. Curing for 4 monthh in the garage mightbe bad. I also saw a site saying to boil the leaves with brown sugar and stuff before hanging them. There seems to be different ways to cure Burley and virginia bright. I am going to learn. I am a horticulyurist and master gardener, and I have grown many solanacea from all over the world. But I want to get this right. A carton of smokes is over 50 dollars now.I am going to grow my own stuff. What I did was hang my calea zacatuchichi cuttings upside down on the back screened in porch.. under the sheltered section. So plenty of ventilation and heat and no mold.
Where can I get these tobaccos. I've ordered seeds for burley, virg. gold and the black sea samsun online, but I'd like to start rolling my own now.
good info, thanks
I'd appreciate if anyone could help me with some advice, here in Bosnia we are buying (under the counter, gray market), what it seems to me, cured tobacco that's already been shredded and it's very moisture but of kinda pleasant smell, still not very nice to smoke and it gets spoiled too quickly if kept in closed bag or, if not, then it get dry. Does anyone knows for any improvement I could possibly do with it in regards to its taste and perseverance, because all the videos are about fermenting leaves and I got shredded tobacco here!? :)) Great video and especially thanks for the history!
PS I'm not sure but I think it's Virginia sort and it's of real nice golden color.
+sinisa majetic What you describe sounds like tobacco that has been cured, but not fermented. You could try pressing some of it while it is very moist to create fermentation. It doesn't really matter how, as long as a good amount of pressure is created. I would try pressing it into a small sheet or plug about 6mm thick. Leave it for a few days and then slice it into strips and smoke some to check for improvement. If it hasn't improved, leave it for a longer period and try again. Good luck, friend!
+The Unknown Cat thank you so much, I did and there's already some improvement, I try pushing it further :))
sinisa majetic Glad to help my friend! Everyone should have a good smoke if they like!
Came for the info, stayed for the oven falling.
I'm a sucker for good comedy. Thanks for checking in :D
@@TweezerAddict thank you for the valuable knowledge sir, just started my first grow td wish me luck.
@@user-nq4kl9ro3q Best luck, my friend. It can be a lot of work, but it is also a very gratifying accomplishment.
How should an Onieda vaiety be cured? I am not sure what catagory it falls under. Should it be air, sun, or put inside a box like yours. This is my first attempt at growing and curing tobacco. Thanks for any help you can give. I like your videos. They provide some of the best information on the net so far.
Hi Barbara -bad news I'm afraid. Oneida is a nicotiana rustica -that is not a tobacco that is generally considered suitable for curing and smoking. It is far too potent and it's best use is apparently as the base for making a natural insecticide for your garden :(
It's important to study a bit before selecting a strain to make sure it has the qualities you desire before putting all that love into them.
Was doing some reading on rusticas and it seems they were used by the native Americans for ceremonials. Is that true?
I have also been told by another tobacco grower that is can be used as a supplement to other tobaccos to raise the nicotine level. If it can be used as a natural pesticide, how is that done. I do have a garden. I don't want to just pull it all up and dispose of it. It is only 6 plants but that is still a waste and I don't like wasting things if I can help it.
Thanks for the replies!
bjr
Barbara Rickman The nicotine levels are intense enough to make one sick on smoking it, I hear. There are variations on making the pesticide, but I believe that it basically consists of allowing the leaves to dry and then soaking them in water to create a nicotine-rich solution. I've never done it, so I cannot really advise.
Okay. Will give it a try for next year's garden. At least all the effort will be good for something.
Hi nice to see a fellow tobacco enthusiast and answers appreciated
My question is how does the oriental and burley tobacco smell during the curing/drying process (not the fermentation process). I am going to dry them out on the veranda on a clothes hanger.
Does the tobacco emit a powerful smell so that it smells that I am smoking all the time or does it smell like weed.
I do not wan the neighbors calling the cops because they think I am curing marijuana.
Do the plants whilst growing emit a scent. Again I am thinking of the neighbors bothering me and calling the cops.
+Rhom Arts You shouldn't have any problems relating to smell in the growing or processing of tobacco. Enjoy!
Great thanks, I would suspect that the leaves emit their scent gradually. I will have about 20 plants of oriental. It is unfortunate that there are so many do gooders who want to prevent people from doing for themselves instead of the big corporates
Rhom Arts Some people, huh?
Cool hat!
Hahahhah ...it came with the saw.
thank you.
So, essentially I can pack the tobacco into a jar, and as long as there is moisture and enough heat/humidity, it will ferment? I'm thinking of growing my own but I'm trying to do it on the cheap and easy
+Chris Paul Packed very tightly -that would ferment it -but it must be properly cured first.
Thinks. Great video packed full of info thats often found in bits and pieces (at least in my searches) I test grew a few last year and grew 4 varieties this yr about 100 plants all together. I got some bad info apparently on some of the seed varieties I purchased as they said air cure or either flue or aircure. And have gotten frogs eye on alot of the leaves air cured so far luckily not all and only bottom or seco sets glad I saw this now. So are u air curing at all before putting into the flue kiln or just picking and hanging them straight away in it. Thanks again hope to hear from u.
HI Willie. The flue cure tobacco goes straight from the field into the oven. This is not a "kiln" like the styrofoam box guys talk about -this is like a small flue-cure barn that flue cures over a period of 5-7 days at specific temperatures. I have a handful of plants that I am planning to take through a legit air-cure on youtube, a little later in the season.
I look forward to that vid. Thanks.
Hi is it OK to add still green living leaves to the fermenter.
Regards Martin
I don't think green leaves will ferment -that is why the leaves have to go through a coloring process first.
I am interested in growing my own tobacco and making my own chew. Would you happen to know anything about this that you could share with me ?
Thank you sir!!
do you roll Cigars with that Burly,Tobbacco.
thanks for the video.
How do you prevent mold from forming during the fermentation process? I've read some very general information about the use of glycerin (or other stuff) sprayed on the leaves. What process do you use to accomplish this?
Control the humidity. If it molds, then your moisture is too high.
I just built a plug box. I dont have a clamp so i used a stack of bricks around 60 pounds worth of bricks. Is 60 pounds good enough or should i stack more?
I expect that ought to be just fine. If I remember right, you don't have to leave it pressed very long for the fermentation to begin -it's just about building some pressure to get it going.
@@TweezerAddict i dont have access to any barns or sheds or attics. I used a bath towel and stacked around 40 leaves per pile, pairing them vain to vain and took them out of the towel every few hours and aired them out. The leaves cured between 2- 5 days
@@Kevin79232 Excellent!
من فضلك اريد معرفة اذا النيكوتين بالورق عالي وطريقة تخفيف النيكوتين طريقة فزيائية
أعتقد أن محتوى النيكوتين يتحكم فيه التبغ الذي تختار زراعته.
It’s called diet or recon
greetings from indonesia java island i loved tobacco's😁
Greetings! Me also!
a few weeks ago I tried to make an american blend with the amount in your video sir but by using local tobacco from my country namely local virginia, local burley, local oriental that I bought through the online shop where the tobacco is grown😁
@@Adriann-ip6kk I hope it was tasty!
@@TweezerAddict 😁😁
Nice Im your 500th subscriber. ☺
You sure are! I've been waiting all afternoon for you!
Lol nice.
Couldn't I use an Excalibur dehydrator for flue curing? You can set the temperature with an Excalibur. So you really can't just hang and air cure VA Gold like you can with Burleys?
You can use any curing method with any tobacco type. Purely a matter of what suits your taste.
Do you smoke marijuana?? You are extremely creative!!! I smoke so........ Man, your vids are awesome! I'd love to come hang out with you for a week and learn!!!!!
I would love to grow, process and smoke some good marijuana, but my part of the world still sees fit to kick in your doors, kidnap you and steal your home for such activity. Thanks for watching and for the nice words!
If a lab oven isn't possible to get your hands on, what would you recommend to flue cure Virginia Gold in instead?
A garage or room will suffice, just keep an eye on the color movement. After that, you may plug press your leaves and jar them to ferment. Just experiment, just as people have done for millennia!
Why have you got the hammer back on your pistol?
TheMrchip001 it's locked with the safety. most semi autos have an interior hammer so it isn't seen, but still cocked just like the 1911.
Pretty cool video definitely learned something. 👍🔥🚬💨
Thank you!
Once you have pressed the tobacco into blocks what do you do with it?
Give it a couple of days -and then slice it into ribbons. Put it in a sealed jar and take some out every now and then and smoke it ...to see how you did ;)
Hi this is my first year growing I got Havana and burly is Havana a Virginia type then.
Just off the top of my head, I would say that being a cigar tobacco, Havana is going to be an air-cure variety.
I have a little bit of tobacco that doesn't stay on while smoking it how do I keep it alight what should I do
Moisture content may be too high? Sometimes I have the same trouble on humid days.
The whole lot won't stay alight
Place it in a open pan in the house and let it dry for a day or so and see it that helps.
Do you cover it with anything during the couple of days before shredding it also do you add anything during pressing like honey
You do want to keep it clean -so covering it however you like would be fine. As far as honey? No.
in a nutshell or a shell from that 9mm on the table lol
That's a .45 ;)
cool...I know that dude! nice vid!
Thank you, Maria! This one has convinced me I had better start taking notes on what I am trying to convey -I missed a few points -but I'll make them up later :D
do you know where to buy or what the mixure is for black
cavendish tobbaco
I do not actually. You might check out Pipes & Cigars .Com to see what they have available though -they have a huge tobacco variety available in bulk.
Put it in a metal strainer set strainer on top of a stock pot of boiling water and steam it 4-8 hours just add water as needed rotate leaves evenly longer you steam it darker the color when you have reached desiredd color stack leaves about 1/2 in thick inside a 1qt sandwich bag and press between 2 boards for about an hour till they make a solid brick then cut 1in strips makes it easier to shred then cut strips into smaller ribbons then rub between palms to seperate it you can also you tube the whole process
Can u use baileys to flavor in the fermentation process?
Not likely as the cream would not be a good thing to introduce for things like mould and smell over time. Also I cant imagine it would burn very well with milk solids present
Use rum instead.
What is the best way to cure if you want a gentle mild cigarette that doesn’t rip your throat out please
Flue cured virgina
70% Burley...... gee that must blow out your lungs!
That's the American Blend ...seems to be popular for decades now.
Hi Cat. I guess the Burley you are using must less aggressive to the one I have been using because even using 30% can kick.
chris randell
Your "whole leaf" tobacco is likely air-cured yet not fermented. You could try humidifying it back to case and then pressing it to begin fermentation. For more information search "bulk fermentation" to understand how industry does it and devise a way to emulate that process -or press it into plugs.
sounds like a good idea...... oh well, will need another shredder!
bro send me some seeds i want to try for cigarette and cigars. but for reals thanks for the info.
This video is pretty old. I haven't had any tobacco seed in years.
How long are tobacco seeds viable?
3 years
I bought seeds 9 years ago. I planted some a few months ago and have a beautiful tobacco crop growing. They are viable for many years as long as they are stored in a cool, dry place.
Weird you have to dry 3 kinds of tobacco 3 different ways. I was wanting grow all 3 types and just hang them in my garage with the fan on. and then build a humidity box to sweat out the ammonia. But I got 'til next season to read more lol.
I don't know anything about the "humidity box" stuff. What I do is just classic tobacco curing. I have a few Burley plants hanging in the barn right now, going through color curing, if you'd like to see how that works.
I thought fermenting or curing, was "sweating" out the harsh ammonia. And it requires 120 degrees and humidity. So I was going to build an outside structure that supplied that.
I realize you dry it first, but the fermenting is what I was trying to get at.
Mopar Smith
It isn't "drying" -it is color curing; converting starches to sugars. If it is not properly cured, it will not ferment because it will just be dead leaves.
The Unknown Cat I just began an Air Cure, if you'd like to follow along;
6 Burley Tobacco Planting and Curing series 6
LOL you fucker. How did you get that rooster to look like a cat ?!?
LMNO!! You mean the oven on the ground? Great vid bro.
And is that a cheap ast Colt .45? Scrap it and get a Ruger lol j.k.
You can't even buy "cigarette tobacco" in stores anymore the taxes killed it. Now all the store bought stuff is shredded to long and has some cavendish tobacco added so they can sell it as "pipe tobacco" all though the cavendish is a low content you can still taste it. They only way to overcome it is to buy menthol which drowns out the taste.
That's not quite right by my experience. You can get any "pipe" blends you like -I'm smoking the American blend right now -with no Cavendish.
In order to be called "pipe" tobacco it must be shredded a certain way. You are right I went and looked it up. There are no definitions in the law as to what makes a "pipe" or "cigarette" tobacco. The ATF simply goes by the cut. Makes no sense. It's all tax bullshit but I can definitely taste the difference. Cavendish simply means flavored tobacco which I guess all tobacco is flavored with something. The only tobacco I have found that doesn't taste different than it used to is Bugler which I have switched to smoking even though it costs more. It is still less than store bought cigarrettes.
I made a video called "smoking on the cheap" -you should check that out.
How is that 80 Norwegian blend? Does it taste like cigarettes or pipe tobacco? Also I don't see on Pipe's and Cigars for big bags....
It tastes much like an American cigarette because it is a blend of mostly Virginia gold -with fairly equal, smaller amounts of Burley and Turkish.
You order by the ounce -so my big bag is a five pound purchase =80 ounces.
Nineteen...Eleven.
It's only a fifteen minute video
It's only a fifteen minute video
Hey, Buddah, you dropped your oven.
It was too funny to cut.
I did have a har har.
Your oven...........
It was never right again either :D
It's just a little dropped, it's fiiiine...:/
It never did recover...
so there once was a barn that caught fire for two whole months and maintained a constant temperature within a degree or two. Yeah nope.
That's the story...
Great video, but can I get more wind in the monitor?