XK A160 J3 Skylark Cub 3D/6G 650mm Wingspan EPP Airplane RTF - Specs, Info, Tips, Maiden Flight ;-)
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XK A160 J3 Skylark Cub 3D/6G System 650mm Wingspan EPP RC Airplane RC Plane RTF - Specs, Info, Tips, & Maiden Flight ;-)
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Congrats you're the first reviewer to not have a left rudder lock and crash (unless high enough to recover) You may have gotten one that doesn't have the problem (so far) with the gyro!
I've had mine a few weeks and it's been repaired a few times. Waiting to hear from the Seller (Manufacturer?) about a fix for the problem. Good video though!
Thank you much!
This Plane required a lot of adjustment before flight.
It's very prone to tip stalls because it's extremely tail heavy and they had way too much rudder dialed in right out of the box.
I think that's why so many were experiencing tip stalls with this plane.
I adjusted the CG and cut back the movement on the rudder before launching so I didn't have those issues.
Later I installed some wing cuffs which make stalls a non-issue.
I hope that helps and I'll see you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC Liked your idea of moving the rudder output to the inside hole, going to set that up as well, thanks. But the gyro does have a bad glitch that causes the rudder to swing/lock way left. I've reproduced it on the workbench. But you overcame that by changing out the radio components.. Good flying
@@crotaflyingsolo4759 Thank You!
I've never been a fan of the XK Gyros ;-)
I always like to have a Full Manual Mode as well as a Gyro Mode.
Hopefully you'll be sent a new board and no more issues.
@@GroundControlRC I'm sure a new board won't fix it because they are all bad, but I gave up on the rudder and disconnected it and pinned the rudder straight, big difference, but still had problems. Motor alignment is critical after a few crashes, Needs that right angle on it, today had my first of 15? maidens without a crash and a smooth dead stick within 10 feet of me! Glad I got the video (I hope) to prove it, because I'll need to watch it myself to see if it was true! LOL
@@crotaflyingsolo4759 Yes, I ended up replacing the Stock Motor and greatly reducing the amount of rudder.
It was also very tail heavy so nose ballast weight was needed.
I got it flying very well with much more power and it was a fairly aerobatic plane after the MODs.
I'm glad you got your flying well as this one was quite the Lemon ;-)
It was hard to believe some reviewers were giving this a good review.
wow its looking very scale i love it
Thank you! Yeah, they put a lot of detail into this one ;-) See you in the Air!
Thanks for the tips, this plane needs some fixes before its maiden flight 👍
Good luck on your Maiden!
Great video!
Thank you much! I just complete a conversion on this Plane for full Manual Mode. I'll be posting soon. It need a little bit of work but a great flying little Cub ;-) Merry Christmas!
I have this plane also. Mixed feelings really. Gyro's never turn fully off but it is still acrobatic. It's stable, so for me it will be a FPV platform. For real feel flying, I'll stick with the Mini T28, P51 or Corsair.
Your right. The Gyro is always on. I wish they would replace the 3D Mode with Full Manual Mode. I haven't decided yet if I want to rip out the Gyro ;-) See you in the Air!
I’ve been trying to do loops and rolls on mine and I’ve put the elevator and rudder lol the way to inside hole on control horns and it struggles to do a loop. Also I broke my landing gear struts …does that cause plane to wobble?
Nice to see it survived maiden flight. Mine crashed in the first minute as the flight controller can't handle ailerons and rudder when making tight turns.
Thank you! You are correct, but there's more to that Story ;-) I just got back from more Test Flights, after making some adjustments, and I'll be Posting Review Part 2 and my Conclusion on this Plane this coming Tuesday. See you in the Air!
A lot of reports like that from owners. I made comments related to it in part 2.
@@Doggeslife , I watched some of the Maiden Flights and some were not very pretty. I never heard what they thought the problem was though.
@@GroundControlRC See post # 129: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3625019-XK-A-160-Skylark/page9
A number of posts made before that one and some that come after mention the problems they have been having with this craft. Being an inherently stable high-wing airframe, a standard micro receiver might be the best bet for it.
Thank you for good video!
Thank you very much for the kind words ;-) Have a great weekend and I'll see you in the Air!
Hi there sir I will be seriously interested in your conclusions on this little bird as I haven't had the courage to even maiden mine due to the reviewers who have had tip stalling issues with this otherwise fantastic looking cub, you certainly have some great content and look forward to seeing more, thanks again and best regards from Alan in the UK 👍👍👍😊😊😊🤗❤
Thank for the kind words Alan. I've made some adjustments to this Plane and performed some Test Flights on it today. I'm rendering the Video as I type this response. I'll be posting the Test Flights and my Conclusion on Tuesday, Nov. 3 and I think you'll have a much easier go with it after making the adjustments. See you in the Air!
With the new receiver upgrade it don’t tip stall with me …plane is ok but trying to figure out why it won’t loop or roll
Fun looking little plane! Given that BG has raised to price to over $130 would you go with this Skylark or something like the E-Flite UMX Turbro Timber which is $139 but also includes flaps and lights but no transmitter? Or maybe the Hobby King Durafly Micro Tundra for $99 but needs a receiver? Too many cool options out there! Love the channel!
Hi Steve! I've seen some flights of the UMX Timber and I would definitely go with it. The J3 Cub requires a lot of work and some additional money for replacing that weak power system, gyro/receiver, etc. It's what I call a "Tinker Plane". I think the UMX Timber looks good right from the get go ;-) That plus the fact that the Toy Transmitters that come with these RTF Planes are pretty unimpressive. If you don't already have a Hobby-Grade TX you can use with the Timber, I'd get a reasonably priced Multi-Protocol TX like the RadioMaster TX16S. It's my primary TX now as it's that good. The price makes it a great value and you'll be able to use it with the majority of Planes you buy in the future. I hope that helps as that's the route I would take. See you in the Air!
Just got mine today .
Very nice plane! I'm thinking of replacing the stock receiver and gyro on mine to have full manual mode. I think it will be a much better flying plane with full manual mode. Lots of detail I think you're going to like it ;-) See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC Reports I am getting is its a bit tail heavy. I will find out when I hit the air. I put the struts on my wl toys F949 and it flies very nicely now. And I put the rudder control out to the edge too. It is a little under powered I think with the standard engine .
@@thetwogardens6048 , Yes, it is a bit tail heavy. I put approx. 2.5g of weight in the nose.
@@GroundControlRC Thanks for the Heads up. I will do the same .
Did you try to bind this plane to your Radiomaster TX16S transmitter? I finally got mine 2 days ago and love it! I have been able the bind most of the XK planes I own using the V911S protocol.
You have impeccable timing ;-) I just powered off the TX16S after finishing setting up this Plane ;-)
This Plane uses the KN (WLToys) Protocol.
Here is a link to all the info: www.multi-module.org/using-the-module/protocol-details/kn
I did have to change the channel order on my TX as my Default Channel Order is for DSM2/DSMX
I have to wait on weather before I can perform some Test Flights with the TX16S.
I did move all the Control Linkage, except the Rudder, to increase the movement and added some EXPO.
I hope it makes as much of a difference as it did with the Eachine Warbirds ;-)
See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC Yes, I tried the KN protocol as well. Some of my smaller models like the XK J11 A-100 also the airlines A-120 and A-150 will work and bind with the V911S protocol, something I couldn't accomplish with the Jumper T8SG.
@@texasuavpilot , did you get the XK J3 to bind with the KN Protocol?
@@GroundControlRC No, I've decided not to purchase that plane. I was just assigning protocols to my existing ones with the new Radiomaster TX16S. I had to re create manually about 15 or so of my airplanes I had previously configured with my Jumper T8SG, since radios are not compatible (Deviation vs Open TX). By doing that I was able to discover I could bind some additional planes the Jumper was not capable before. I also discover for the VT761 protocol you can assign Channel 6 for calibration and tricks using a rocker switch like the SH on the Radiomaster
@@texasuavpilot , gotcha! I totally misunderstood. I've still got to make time to get my other Planes programmed on the TX16S. Never enough time in the day.
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Thank you Tobi! I'm always happy when I have a successful Maiden Flight ;-) See you in the Air!
Do you think it might be very slightly tail heavy which would make it very pitch sensitive? I guess we will find out on your next flight in 3D mode.
I've seen this model tip stall on 2 different maidens and I was half expecting it to happen to you too. Great job..
Hi Paul! Spoiler Alert! You are very observant ;-) I just got back from more Test Flights and I think the Plane is actually fairly Tail Heavy. I made a couple of adjustments before taking it back out and now it is much better behaved. I'll be posting Review Part 2 and my Conclusion on this Plane this coming Tuesday. Promise not to laugh at my lack of 3D Skills ;-) See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC Interesting... it was more of a hunch than observation to be honest. Looking forward to your crash test footage!
@@paulhope3401 , Crash Test Footage? What makes you think I crashed ;-) Hehehehe......
@@GroundControlRC Just the other maidens I've seen where that happened GC. Not doubting your piloting abilities one iota..
@@paulhope3401 , just kidding with you ;-)
I purchased the same plane from park 10 toys as well just recently nice looking plane but to bad that it’s hit and miss on whether or not you get one with a good control board. The one I have, the rudder sticks left and right and doesn’t return to the neutral position unless you throttle down. It only flew for a couple minutes and crashed. Upon inspection when throttled up all control surfaces are wandering. It’s been over a month dealing with the seller and no results from them it has not been a good experience at all.
That's a shame as it's such a good looking plane.
This one has some serious issues aside from the gyro board which is why I didn't recommend it.
I had to perform a lot of Tinkering to get this Plane flying fairly well.
It was more work than it was worth for me and I like to Tinker ;-)
I watched a very popular reviewer crash this plane (3) times during his "One and Done" Review and he still claimed it was a great flying plane ;-)
There's just too much bad information out there.
I hope you can eventually get it resolved with the seller so you can buy a good flying plane.
See you in the Air!
@@GroundControlRC I just received my new props and motor mounts yesterday because the very first flight it snapped the motor mount on impact when went into a death spiral. The ESC was not mounted and all the wires are just floating around so I cleaned up the wires hot glued the ESC and control board moved the antenna opened up the holes slits for the connecting rods and tried another flight and as soon as I used my rudder the j cub death spiralled to the ground. It’s not a good flyer. I’m new to the hobby and I was wondering if I can put a flysky receiver in this plane and use my i6x transmitter
@@tboystoys5682 Yes, I would think you could and go full manual mode, I've replaced the receiver/gyro brick on a few of these planes and just put in a standard receiver.
I don't know if you've watched the other video I published on this Plane but it has too much Rudder Mixed in and it's very Tail Heavy. If you fix those two things it will fly much better and not Tip Stall unless you get too slow.
@@GroundControlRC Thankyou my friend
lots of tip stall problems with this plane. Mine has opposite problem with insufficient elevator authority
This Plane has a Tip Stall problem because it's very Tail Heavy and has too much Rudder Mixed in with the Ailerons. When you get those two things corrected, no more Tip Stalls ;-) I've posted videos of the MODs and adjustments I've made to this Plane to demonstrate how to get it flying very well.
I bought a 600 and a 800 battery for this plane …hard to get in but work the 800 is 30g and 600 is 33g
Those should give you some good flight time and are very light for their size.
Yes I got 14 on the 800 and it’s only 30g but I had to push it to get it in it’s really snug and isn’t long like the stock one it’s short and fat but once I get in it just lacks a few mm of getting in enuf to put cover on so I most the time just leave cover off and it does just fine as for the 600s they are 33g I’m goin by the specs online but I have yet to really test them since winds last couple days been shatty but they are more or less the same size as the 800s ….how did you reinforce your landing gear I couldn’t see how u did or what video …I left it dangling cuz I broke one side wher it connects to back of wheel and last night it was wobbly awful would that do that ? I ended up just cutting the other side off and taking the landing gear stunts off …I haven’t touched the inside the servos on linkage they are on outside hole and my ride is on inside hole and my elevator is on inside hole I haven’t touched the ailirions they are in middle but I was trying to give it more throw …I’ll try to loop it in 3d and it’ll go straight up and just hang there …I have to struggle to get it to loop smh only reason I got this plane is I thought it was aerobatic …if that’s the case I’ll have to get a different receiver and get rid of the xk don’t like how it won’t give you any freedom like the volentex in intermediate mode
Why did you get rid of it and did you ever get it to loop? With those batteries I should be good on nose weight but again I don’t think I have them pushed in as far as I could but that was reason I got was so I could add a little more weight to nose …I need to do what u did and take out some of that foam and a little at entry point so these batteries can go in easier and I also moved esc back a little cuz it was so close to battery compartment thinking it was too close to battery I just slid it back in slit a little bit much would that affect my cg too smh …I love this plane but damn I can’t figure out why it’s wobbling and won’t loop
@@snauzze7007 It should loop and roll in 3D Mode.
Yes, I had mine flying pretty well but it took a lot of work to get it there.
I retired mine as it wasn't one of my best planes.
You'll see some of the aerobatic flights in the Playlist.
czcams.com/play/PL_YiEhY7O1WZhJkrStCNlHmtImYBMckfX.html
Why isn’t mine I have it on inside holes and it still doesn’t want to
bonjour..le mien il tombe a chaque fois problème de conception un beug de la radio commande.que faire svp?
Hello Giovanni! Yes, some design issues. This Plane is very Tail Heavy and they have too much Rudder mixed in with the Ailerons.
Here is a link to the Playlist which will show what I did to get it flying very well:
czcams.com/play/PL_YiEhY7O1WZhJkrStCNlHmtImYBMckfX.html
I hope that helps.
@@GroundControlRC merci boucoup cest gentil de me répondre encore merci.
@@giovannisicilien6593 You are most welcome ;-)
there is no spare hood screw in my
Hum...
Can't this take off by itself?
No, it has no auto-pilot.
Only option by throwing from hand or from land take off Sir ?
@@sreerang3 Yes, you're absolutely correct. Unfortunately, I can't take off from the ground where I fly as that dirt road is too rough and rutted out so I have to hand launch ;-)
Thanks Sir do you teach as a consulting for getting Rc pilot license if yes please let me how can I reach out.
@@sreerang3 Thank you! No, I'm sorry, I don't do consulting as I do all of this in my spare time and can barely keep up with it ;-) I wish there were more hours in the day ;-) See you in the Air!