How Much Horsepower do Cams Make?
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- Crower Camshaft Install into my 1990 Honda Civic B20B
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#crower62403 #b20b #hondacivic - Auta a dopravní prostředky
You gained like 10 hp after you cut the valve cover.
LMFAO, for real!
Weight reduction,that's what won the race 😂
Need a tune lol
I actually added my rear interior in the 2nd races. Lol. We're in the process of moving and it made sense to put it in for less parts to move.
I heard the p8r head makes a difference with the Crowder rods but idk I'm gonna find out tho with my engine. I'll keep you posted sir👍
You're the most calm down to earth non ricey Honda guy. Subbed.
Appreciate that so much, means a ton!
The car still sounds like a dying trumpet and he doesn't have an eBay exhaust can you just not win with Honda's?
What? *Your* sentence didn't make any sense.
@@GarageBuiltHondas like the car hate the sound is that better?
av iator smith you probably dont even drive lol
Man I wish there were more Honda people out there like you.. Super humble and down to earth.. Too many toxic car people in this world..
I hear ya man. I just try to surround myself with like minded car dudes also. The best ones I've met have been the guys who do road course racing. I'm glad I got into it!
Roger that. New sub here due to video style and presentation.
Thanks Jonathan!
Garage Built Hondas agreed that’s where you meet the best car guys sound advice and driving tips they can be a Honda guy or a Porsche guy their all really cool different builds but same passion
Ross Tregemba shit who are you tellin. Us 3.7 mustang owners get a ton of shit.
This video is literally perfect. You can see how much better the top end is on your car after the cams. I know this video is 3 years old, but with a tune you would have seen an even larger difference.
Not bad at all for straight up drop in with no tune!
Just discovered your channel the other day. I appreciate your know-how and I’ve learned a lot from your channel! I drive a stock DC2 and am excited to start working on it! I’ve appreciated that you use and experiment with parts across so many price points!
Thanks Brendan, I'm glad youre here! I try to keep it simple for anyone just like me. Hope you enjoy the future content!
9:00 - 9:10 what printing a document in the 80's sounded like.
Jason Galang, holy crap that’s exactly what it sounded like! Priceless.
I thought the same thing
This is the 1st video of yours I've seen & probably the 1st video I've commented on in a long time, but I had too! Complements on your work ethic. Your attention to detail is what needs to be understood by anyone else watching this... as well as allowing the proper time to pass without hurrying through or anxiously rushing to start the motor after all that work. After all that is why you would want too start it, to see if there is anything leaking or RUBBING lol. Love the way the valve cover turned out letting you see the cam gears! I just really enjoyed this video... thank you for making it!
Gosh, super flattered Josh. I love the comment. It means so much to me. 🙏
The pull at 29:33 and the one right after had me grinning ear to ear man! So thrilled for you that it worked out, always a good feeling when you make adjustments on your car and can visibly see and feel a difference. Great video!
Thanks Thomas!!
Dude I can’t even explain to you how much I like this video. I am now a subscriber for life.You were so humble and so informational about this video I just can’t believe how good you really shot this.
👍 much appreciated, thanks! Glad you like it!
Love the time lapses, being able to see the whole process is really useful! Keep it up man
Thank you, glad you enjoyed those parts!
I am going to subscribe to your channel because I don't hear you bugging us about hitting the subscribe button or like button. I like the fact that you are simply doing your thing, having fun and trying to teach us more about cars and making hp. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for that Jonathan! I figure you'll *subscribe* if you like the content, really glad you did!
Really enjoyed the before and after footage. great camera layout for the test runs.
What an incredible video. That’s Honda mechanical skill and Honda love all rolled into one. Big props to your buddy for racing with you. That made the video.
Sub’d!
Much appreciated Steven!
Awesome dude! Perfect job for a 35 min video! You and Young Static are the most detailed and informational! Thank you! 👍
Glad people aren't minding it being too long!
Garage Built Hondas Hell no. Keep it coming. I been wrenching on old muscle for fifteen years and just got a little 2001 Prelude with an H22A4 in it. She’s had a little bit done to her already, but I am all about making her the baddest she can be. Any info on any honda helps enormously.
Appreciate that man, means tons! Watch my most recent video, s friend and I got together and shot a small film of his Prelude.
Garage Built Hondas That video is what brought me here. :)
i'm more of a EJ Subaru guy but this was an interesting video I learned alot about hondamotors(B20B), just wanted to say greatjob & Thankyou!
Much appreciated, thanks for the comment and love to hear it!
I honestly thought this video would be a waste of time but the final races made it worthwhile. Excellent work man.
Thank you so much Ben, glad you liked it!
Loving this style of content Jon, the many angles to the street race is perfect!
Appreciate it!
I think your fuel gauge needs replacing. It's reading full. That's not possible in civics.
LMAO
😂😂😂
Thats because every kilo you carry eats performance 🤣
Good video. I had a set of Crower 402 cams in my old LS. They were very mild cams, but did add a little bit of power. It's been 16-17 years since, but I wanna say they made roughly 11hp untuned.
Those days are long gone, though. A JDM B18C occupies the engine bay of my DA, now.
A much more preferred engine!
B18C5?
I'm impressed with the cams, you can really see the difference in the race
Right! And that's just dropped in. I'm curious to see what some tuning will do!
@@GarageBuiltHondas What am I missing? Seems to me like the white civic won by a mile the first time then it was neck and neck after you changed the cams.
The first race is the best indicator. I couldn't hang in 5th, he was pulling, then the 2nd time around I was pulling on him in 5th. And he couldn't catch me as easily anymore. I would actually pull on him.
@@GarageBuiltHondas wait what?! it wasnt tuned by that time
Never tuned.
I always thought people cut the valve cover to show off the cams. Now I see it's because the bolts will rub, that really bothers me. Skunk2 designed the crap and they can't include fasteners that will clear the cover? Really grinds my gears 😣😂
I've never heard or seen it before. That's why I was perplexed at first finding the issue. Maybe other people will chime in on if they ever encountered it. I'd love to hear.
They main reason they get trimmed is to adjust the adjustable cam gears. So, that you don't have to keep on removing your valve cover. 🔧
@@rodneyberry7589 that makes more sense 😂👍
Yes! I was going to do it at a later point in time but this couldn't wait til then after it was rubbing.
theres actual function to cutting them
I used to have a non vtec b20..nasty ported the b18b non vtec head..and also using crower cams..
Rebuilt b20 short block with new oem head gasket, bearings,rings and oem phk pistons,with deeper valve pocket.
Tuned it on dyno,with neptune set up..got myself 235whp @ 23kgcm torque.
Now i am using b20 vtec with 271whp😊
What kinda of dyno lol
@@Tuvzii dynojet machine
Adzlan Syah what was it 15 compression on m1 to make 235?
Adzlan Syah I have a stock b20b non vtec that was just installed into a integra any recommendations on what to do i want to do b20 vtec but never done it
Work on your suspension first. New everything, bushings, ball joints, bearings. Then worry about more power. 👍
Awesome Video I can definitely tell a difference between the beginning to the end of the cam valve swap
Really appreciate this video and the way you constructed it
I love this channel Great content you learn New things just about every time there’s a new video up I just picked up my 89 civic hatchback SI my dream hatch back 😸 Keep up the great work 👍🏽
Thanks for the comment Daniel, I love to hear it!
I learn every video, you got that bingo!
The valve cover cut just made your engine look good asf
👍👌
That was a good video I can’t lie I learned something today about changing cams
Awesome pulls man !! Great video , lots to take in !! Can’t wait to put cams on my b18 especially now!! Thanks you!!!
Thanks man, you'll love em!
Huge difference! This mod looked juicy! Noticed the tone has become tight & aggressive.
Sounds better for sure. I'm excited to see more power!
Very nice man I love working on cars to race them. It’s great to see great progress and success
Me too Lotus, nothing better!
dang that sounded sweeeeetttttt. this is really my all time favorite channel.
I'm so flattered and grateful that you say that. Means everything to me! 🙏
Luv your video brother. I used to roll in B18 Tegs and would encounter all the same issues. Eventually i migrated to V8s. But the video definitely brought back some fond memories on Honda engines. Good work brother definitely inspired me to come back to the Honda world.
Love to hear it. They never get old!
nice video bro ! I havent watched a full 35 min video in along time... a lot of information and the engine looks real good on the ef !!
Really appreciate that, glad you enjoyed it!!
Hell yeah bro! Bout time you cam’d that B20. You are due for a Hondata S300!
Chipped P28 works great for me
Just gotta plug it in and get it tuned!
S300? Dude is all motor not Turbo
P28/P72 would be fine
I did get a p28 with S300 already installed. It was in a parts car that I got, so I'll end up using that.
Connoisseur Of Cars & Tig Ol Bitties ditto, I've run all motor 12's on bone stock ECUs. It's easy to get the fuel right.
Excellent video, not many back to back races showing the differences in upgrades on these engines. I've just gone a few degrees higher on my b20 vtec camshafts so this gives me a good feeling knowing it'll make a difference, hoping to hit 245 bhp with a full true 3" header back exhaust system 😁
Thank you. Cams seem fun. I can't wait to get the tuned and see if I can make more power.
Thanks for the tips and comment. Will do!!
Awesome video, the hatch looks great and it's so cool to see such an improvement.
Thank you so much, such a fun time making the video!
Very nice video! Nice work, thank you! haven't watched a whole video for a long time ;)
Love to hear that!!!
I own a 91 model Toyota ae92, it's only a 1300 engine but I just installed a cam & I cud feel the difference in power & the car sounds even better. I do have a power flow exhaust as well, but that's about it. Standard with 2 minor changes & she MOVES buddy 🚀
Wat engine 4efe or 4efte
its a pleasure while looking at those spinning cam gears...
It's almost therapeutic. 😀
Such a great video, no problem at all sitting through watching. Didnt even feel like a half hour lol, nice little upgrade for the b20b too. The setup looks so sick now with the apertures you've made! Cant wait to see a tune vid!!👍
Thanks for the feedback, I don't think I'll have a problem making the videos longer now, most seem to enjoy them!
That video was fantastic. Great to see the real world comparisons too.
I'm definitely gonna look into some new cams for my H22 Prelude.
I love this channel!
Thank you so much!!
@@GarageBuiltHondas
You're very welcome. Your videos are excellent, very informative and well put together. Keep up the great work, and buy a gen 5 Prelude already!
Lmao, ok! 😁
Dammmnnn! That timing belt cover/valve cover mod came out so good!
Thanks Bailey
Most definitely agree!!
I agree 💯🔥
Garage Built Hondas subbed to the channel man great content check out mines when you can
DIY master right here
I watch alot of your vids👀. Tight work 👍. Keep up the great work and informing us other ef nerds 💪.💯
We gotta stick together!! #EF4L
Holy smokes you can actually see the difference!! That' hatch was goneee this time around....I need some cams now lol That was rad man great video!! Love your videos!!
Thanks buddy!! The video was so fun to film!!
So...."How Much Horsepower do Cams Make?"
John Doe lol
...and how much low and mid RPM torque do they drop
Not enough to notice any difference.
@@GarageBuiltHondas they just take you to peak faster. Usually the horsepower stays about the same. But the acceleration is faster right?
Maybe like15 to 20 hp i believe maybe
You made washing dishes not feel so bad. Great content!
Lol, I do the exact same thing all the time. 🙏
Lmaooooo
same here always taking longer than normal 😄😄😄😄
Same here. 4-6 hours a day, 5 days a week, so worth it.
Them dishes i feel ye pain lol
Awesome video from start to finish before and after and everything in between!
Thank you!
Thank you man. Your videos are very informative. And you know your stuff. I installed a pro IM follow your instructions. Very good teacher. Thank you so much. Can't wait to install my cams.
Thanks for the comment Bob, love to help out!
I definitely recommend a decent tune with bigger camshaft lobes.
S7V7NFîV5 yup seen it first hand. Back in the days I dropped in some stage 2’s and went for a drive around the block and man it was so sluggish and didn’t respond too well. Tuned it the next day and man, night and day difference.
Can the car still run properly without a tune after installing better cams?
Good content and good friend you got all friendly rivalry
I had a similar setup in my old 96 Integra RS. The cams were more mild and gave mid RPM power increases. I never had it tuned, but while auto crossing it made a noticeable difference in times and eliminated shift downs to 1st. Cool to see the drag pulls before and after.
Pretty cool to see how cams do make a difference.
Great video, great content, great info, great editing and no BS. Just Great. You're great. Great.
Thanks!! 😀
Not sure if you have a wideband or not but should invest in one to help make sure your motor isnt running too lean or too rich. Also get the cams degreed in and a proper tune. I enjoy your videos alot. Wish there was more honda owners like you. 💪💪
I do have a wideband waiting to be installed. It came in a parts car I picked up with a Hondata equipped P28. I'll throw other of them on together.
@@GarageBuiltHondas should get a basemap from huntertuned!!
I'm just gonna wait until I can schedule a time with a tuner here in town. I haven't driven the car in over a month and I'm moving soon too so I won't be driving it still. Once we're done moving I'm gonna get it tuned.
Big difference cams made u can hear different pitch too in exhaust
😀👍
Garage Built Hondas I noticed it in the second set of pulls but was too lazy to rewind and compare. Definitely sounds like your little hatchback was looking for some payback.
This was a GREAT Performance Comparison video! I enjoyed the before and after Pulls and your mechanical Attention to Detail! SUBBED🙌🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much!!
@@GarageBuiltHondas You're Most Welcomed Brother! I'm looking forward to viewing, learning, and appreciating your future build/modification videos for this amazingly built and clean hatch!
I think you’ll gain a good amount more power with the tune!! Great video, thanks man! Keep it up!
Me too, can't wait!
Purrzzzz like a baby kitten 👍👍💪 can’t wait to see if it made a difference n how much great job John
Can't wait either
Damn you can definitely see the difference after the cam install. It picked up a decent mph my guess it probably 2-3 mph. Base how it did against a stock Si that does 92-94 tops stock . The b20b looks like it’s a 93-95 mph trap speed car. That puts you at around 14.4-5 secs
Man I have binged a few videos, your a chill non Ricer Honda guru putting out great content. subbed
Much appreciated
Great video. Really enjoyed the comparison you did. Thus new subscriber. Dig your style of video editing and production .
Much appreciated!
I think I missed the part where you put assembly lube/oil on the cam journals, lobes, lifters, buckets etc. Apart from that 👍
Thanks, everyone is saying the same. I didn't record it, it was messy and didn't want to get my camera dirty.
Good video and it sounds much better with the new cams. Being a speed density ECU, it is probably running lean and should gain a bit more with a proper tune. The non vtec exhaust valve clearances actually seem to like to tighten up over time, so it is smart to check them every 10K mi or so or else eventually you'll risk burning an exhaust valve. The heavier springs can accelerate the process. I bought my B20Z2 cheap with a burned exhaust valve, rebuilt the head, and my lash adjustment logs since show it losing about two thousandths in the last 10K mi, and that is with single supertech springs and stock cams. For the video I would add a mention that it is smart to use assembly lube on initial valvetrain assembly especially with heavier springs and more agressive cams, and all Honda guys know, but for the sake of completeness, readjust ignition timing whenever the distributor is reinstalled.
Great post/comment! Excellent info and suggestions. I took note of all of it. 👍 I did a small finger lube when I first installed the cams/cam caps, you can see the part where I set the cam in to check fitment, then pulled it right back out and went off camera to the ground where I ran oil along the mating surfaces. I didn't however film the part where I dumped oil over all of the valvetrain before putting the VC on and starting. Many have questioned it, but I was more concerned with getting my $700 camera dirty. Thanks for contributing such a thoughtful message to this video! I love those kind!
The B20's have a known issue of the exhaust valves recessing into the head. Honda has since released an updated head. However, it's quite spendy at $3k
@@dylanstassen1058 how do you tell an updated head from an original? Did they give it a different casting number or anything?
I'd like to know also how to tell. Thanks for that info!
I don’t normally like the sound of Honda engines because they sometimes sound really droney and whiney but those cams actually make it sound really good ngl it sounded more smooth less raspy and that
Very nice! And you're right about the race being fun, it looked fun! When cars are closely matched like this, it boils down to driver skill but being nose to nose like that can invoke such suspense, it's what makes racing fun and exhilarating for me! Good show! :D
It was so much fun racing my friend. I can't wait to get out there again.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Have you thought about getting a good flowing head and upping the compression? or do you plan to boost eventually?
Or up the compression AND boost? ;)
(and yes, I know as taboo as that sounds, it is possible... just tedious and risky to tune (mainly by someone inexperienced on the matter) but so rewarding!)
I'd like to upgrade the rod bolts and be able to rev to 8k. That'd be a big gain just right there. A ported head would be ideal and probably be easy to find a cheap head to start with since everyone always used the b20 blocks with a vtec head.
But I don't know where it'll go, I just hope I can keep making this build better and more faster to begin with.
Thats awsome amazing video..by far best video for bseries ..glad to see someone still have one i want one bad
Thank you!
I used same cams stage 2 403's
Bone stock b18a1
Stock header
2.5 inch RSR exhaust
3" intake with velocity stack
Made 147whp and 130wtq
Awesome video! I see and hear alot of people who say to stop "wasting money" on a non-vtec head or swap a vtec head and these people don't understand that it's not always about being the fastest but just the journey to getting your car where you want, in the way you wanna do it, not how the internet suggests or exactly how someone in a how to build guide does it. Also in the EF chassis you don't need all that much power to get up and go. I used to have a '91 SI and building an 11.8:1 all motor single cam w/ a stage 1.5 cam was one of the most rewarding things I've done.(I went with 1.5 for the low end torque if I remember correctly) Just advanced my timing and put 91 octane(If I knew then what I know now I would have ran higher octane, I may have used octane booster but I cant remember)and she ripped and pulled on untuned LS Vtec DC2 Integras.
Sure you'll get a bit more power out of a Vtec head but that intern adds mechanical parts and the more moving parts the more chances of having a mechanical failure. Non-Vtec is a true enthusiast build, is reliable and it requires less maintenance and fuss overall. No wiring vtec, no solenoid leaks/failure, no tuning secondary fuel maps for vtec. Had it not been for the cam bolts it would have been up and running in a relaxed afternoon. Props for getting it figured out, I've second guessed my work plenty of times but practice makes perfect and now for those who watched this they now have the knowledge of what to watch for in a B20 build. Personally would have just shaved the bolts but I like everything to look as stock as possible. Someone mentioned easy tuning access which makes your cuts superior, especially when you get engine management and to dyno tuning. 👍🏼 Thanks for uploading your experience/experiment!
Excellent post and you hit it right on the head. The B20B fits perfectly into my budget, plus I just wanted to build a non-vtec engine. It's been a lot of fun having it in this car and has helped me to become a much faster driver at the local road race track!
Solid before and after vid. Nice to see an honest vid on you tube these days
Appreciate that, glad you liked it!
So awesome to see the results after the cam swap. Motivation to build my head now haha!!
Let's do it! I love inspiring others from my garage miles and miles away!!
I had stage 2 crowers in my b20v and it made great tq. Felt good. Engine made 236\170. Swapped to skunk2 pro2 and made 250 but lost tq and midrange. I thought the crowers were 🔥
Love it, hope I can make some few extra horses!
S K Did u feel like u lost alot of tw with the switch or was it worth the extra hp from the skunk 2? Debating what to get for my b20v
Sk2 cams are garbage
Crowers, Drag Cartel or Toda Cam Killers are the best for Torque
Dont remember wich skunk2 cams but we had a gsr b17made 189whp but 117torque lollllll
Into a ef..was just as fast as a protege speed back in the day.
If you go faster, look at your avarage horsepower powerband, not the torque. If you have a good horsepower result, its means already you have good torque on your engine. Don't forget, HP is TQxRPM/5252
A tip on taking out the valve springs, take a deep impact socket, stuff some paper in the little part and put the socket over the retainer, get you a hammer and boom, a fast but sketchy way to take them out, no need for doctor mechanic
There is a tool that does that, and it has magnets to catch them. I believe it's called the Lisle tool, or something along that line.
I worked on heads for years. yep, easiest, fastest way i know
Thanks for the added tip/info
Just found this channel, love what i seen so far. Subscribed. Been debating what cams to put in my b20v will def be looking into these
I really enjoyed the longer video. The before and after was amazing!
Thanks for that input! 👍
Dude where is that filmed?! It looks beautiful, like Albuquerque where I used to live! That long stretch looks fckn perfect for this. Also looks like a non-patrolled area.
Close dude, 4 hours south right outside of El Paso, TX in "Mexico". It's a really fun spot to go to!
@@GarageBuiltHondas as an arizona native I can tell, this is Mexico (;
That cut in the cover looks badass
I love it too!!
I love how upgraded cams change the personality of a car. I put BC cams on my car and without changing the tune I gained 15 hp. Once you get it tuned you may be able to rev the engine out a little more. Great video!
Thanks Rashaad!
Great video! You seemed to gain in the higher gears. Very impressive little Civic.
Crazy how similar my lexus is to hondas. Just multiply each part by 2 lol
Awesome vid man, and rather than play up a bunch of hype, you gave really objective information. Well done. Once you get it on a dyno you should be able to squeeze a bit more out of it. The trick to getting power out of a high revving small displacement engine is getting it to breath, and a cam is a step in the right direction. Years ago, like in the 80s years ago, I was building L18 Datsun engines for racing autocross. I had pushed everything I could externally with Weber side drafts, header, and electronic ignition, but that tapped out at about 135hp. Eventually I installed a stage 2 cam on my own car thinking I was going to light shit up at the local track, but it barely did anything except make it idle rough. :o( By next season I saved up some scratch and had the head ported and machined the biggest valves I could get into it. Also built it back up with a set of BRE Racing titanium springs and retainers. It took me awhile to tune it, but once I got it dialed in I was making 182hp and pulling hard right up to it's 9K redline. All that power in a 2000 lb. car... that thing was an absolute monster. I had visions of racking up a bunch of Fastest Laps Of The Day, but some English A-hole with an Austin Mini Cooper that had an Alfa Romeo engine swapped in it stole all my glory. To this day English accents piss me off. LOL
That's pretty darn impressive, I'm sure that thing moved too!
The English accent comment really made me chuckle!
@@GarageBuiltHondasYeah, not bad for an old SOHC 2 valve per cylinder. Had the time of my life playing with that car. I still have an auto cross 510, but it's light years beyond the one I built as a kid.
I have a 720 Nissan with a z24 engine (1985). I want to get at least 300HP out of it but after a lot of research, it seems the old z24 just doesn't have it in it without spending a fortune on it (even then, it would be difficult it seems). Considering throwing in a small block V8 but would rather stick to using a Japanese engine. Any suggestions? The goal of the truck is to keep costs down, at least get 300HP and have fun in the process.
@@NotSoCrazyNinja Yeah, Not only would you have to spend a fortune to get 300hp out of an N/A NAPS-Z, it would only do it for a short time before needing another fortune. My first advice is to not getting hung up on an arbitrary number. Your 720 is designed around a 133hp 145lb ft engine, so anything over 225hp, you're looking at many other upgrades to survive it. Sure an SBC might make the big big, but putting one in a 720 and doing it right is a costly labor intensive project that has proven to produce less than satisfying results. I would invest in a platform that can be swapped relatively easy and upgradable to make more power as desired. The RS20 makes big hp, but you'd want the s14 or 15 with VVT. Otherwise turbo lag and low torque of the cheaper S13 (what I have in my 510) would be frustrating in a truck. The KA is a much cheaper step up and has good potential. VG30 VQ35DE are another options with up to 300+ hp, lots more torque and sound AMAZING. For the money, and ease of upgrades, the EcoTec 4-V6 platforms are also worth looking into.
Wow, that post was excellent. I felt like I was looking at a different language. You really know quite a bit! It's intimidating but super interesting!
Wow! Very noticeable difference in the performance of your car and a great way to show the real world results of tuner parts sold on the market, as well.
Thanks CRJ
Thanks for the good car goodness was waiting for this video as always man I enjoy the content keep it up
Thanks Will
Typing as I'm watching.
Gotta find the article from either Turbo or SS magazine where one of the editors or writers added cams and a box manifold to his B20 race EF.
I'm sure it was stage 2 possibly 3 crowers and they got mid 180s hp. and 170s TQ. (Once tuned)
Your car will go hard once tuned.
Man, I'm excited to see!!
@@GarageBuiltHondas Can't wait to see you get it tuned.
And do the same tests.
Consider doing 50 to 120 runs only. Best way to judge power gains without the inconsistency of bad shifts or who got the drop in who.
Also...what transmission do you have? A B16 I'm assuming with that 120 top speed.
We plan on running again! That might be a better idea but since we did the 20 runs we'll still probably do those too.
It is a short geared S1.
You have a good friend there.
Very!!
Love the vid!!! I was planning on getting a jdm b20b for my Crv and putting in some crower stage 2 cams in this summer to have fun with till I finish my B20vtec motor.... glad to get a glimpse of what I can expect!!!
I'd do the same if I am ever not using these in this motor. My.crv could definitely use these.
I really liked the pulls showed how much a difference Cams made. Seeing dyno numbers is one thing but with pulls you see when the power comes in the Rpms.
It was the cheapest but most fun alternator to see the power difference! 🏁
Yeah at the wheels onto the road! 👍🏼
I just subscribed to your channel solely because you use a Milwaukee fuel ratchet
Hell yeah, my favorite tools ever!
EP is such a uniquely recognizable place lol. soon as you started rollin i was like "waaait a min" lol. gotta love them b20 swapped ef's
No place like the desert !!
Garage Built Hondas yep 😁
You visit often?
Garage Built Hondas haven’t been out there since 2013, but I still have close friends there. Been talkn about flying out there later this year
Cool man, if you do let me know. Maybe we'll have an event when you're down here and you can check out the cars/track
Nice to see inprovement😎👍🏾 and indeed with an propper tune than the cams come in real action👌🏾 nice
Great video! The race compare and contrast was dope!
Thanks man!
cover it with transparent, it looks awesome
Excellent! I want to drop a set of cams in the wagon's ZC this year. Give it a bit more umf down low.
Zc dohc?
@@harley8728 yup! Rocking the D16A9 DOHC ZC
@@DashnCars me too, may I suggest the Colt tri flow cams, they rock.
@@harley8728 I'm actually working with Cole over at Bad Guys Worldwide for a regrind and his head work. He's got a ZC DOHC specific package now. My build isn't the normal D series setup, I off road and trail ride. Need a bit different profile for my cams. All bottom end, not so much top end
@@DashnCars cool , good luck. I love this little motor.
33:45 seriously its always nice to have this kind of stuff documented it will help everyone. Thanks for the great video!
Much appreciated Ryan!!
Advancing the timing a couple of degrees may help with those cams, but you have done a great job of selecting the bolt ons to work together!!
Thanks Chris! Stay tuned for a future video on the Dyno tune session and updated pulls video!
you really want to wake that thing up with those cams? get you some cast 84mm gsr styled pistons to raise the compression, they will help peak and also bring back some low end as well.
Love the advice, thanks!
I would go with an 84mm bore unless you want to bore it over which isn't recommended on a b20b block, max i would machine is to 84.25mm. Another thing would be you would have to mill the sides of the rod end 1mm on each side to clear those pistons. If you want higher compression on a OEM style piston i would go with a 84mm p30, those are exact fit so it's something you can do in your garage.
PrimeGarage I meant 84mm my bad, and you won’t need to mill the rods because these are factory gsr pistons as they don’t come in 84mm, they are gsr styled b20 pistons, they have a slight dome to them. It’s basically a cast domed piston
Man, I'd love to get into something like this. I really need to up my knowledge on learning about rebuilding engines, I've never had the opportunity/knowledge/time to do so. I need to get another b20 that I can work on and see what I can put together.
@@rgreerjr I've built b20vtec with those pistons. And yes you need to mill the the stock rod end 1mm since that piston has more material on the inside of it with any b18c style piston. Only b16 style pistons are direct fit, Unless he's gonna use aftermarket rods then he'll be ok.
Nice use of assembly lube hope next oil change you don't find shiney metal flakes 🤣
They were used cams already broken in
@@TheLastSoundNinja but cams don't ride on bearings so whenever you remove cams it's best to use assembly lube so there is less metal on aluminum contact like the video either way 🤙
@@alexramos3898 he oiled them up a bit but that's about it 🤔
Wow this video was very impressive love everything about it man! Great video & you just got a subscriber 👍🏼
Much appreciated man, hope you like the content and future content!
one thing i loved, one thing i didnt
i loved the time lapse, it was beyond satisfying.
i didnt like that you didnt use assembly lube on the cam caps to help them out until oil got into the head, it probably didnt affect them but its a quirk.
subbed.
Thanks! I only rubbed oil on the cams when I set them onto the head, then removed them quickly in the video and applied it.
Put on @ b16 head and quit wasting money on the weezing head
No need to go vtec LS/B20 heads can also make power.. specially boosted mine makes 602whp non Vtec.
I have been in a dc2 with this setup tuned on race gas...it spins all 3rd gear on highway on bf goodrich gforce 235s!!
I was amazed!this is where u see that vtec is for economy.non vtec make power down low and midrange.head ports design shape u can see its not made for 9000rpms.they cost more on fuel to drive around..i like having my k20 at 4350..get groceries stay below it and save gas vs non vtec.
The setup i was speaking about is made by velocity tuning..they got it down to 11.3 sec in the dc2 chassis..fastest non vtec b20 in the world back then!!viva crower!
@@vincevegacustoms754 now there is a non vtec b20 that runs 10s all motor.
@@civicpride1986 but yeah you might not even need a turbo if you ran the type r head..or if you did with a turbo you would probly push alot more .sorry there is no fucking replacement for the performance of a dohc vtec head .and it's a waste of money to build the b20 head when a stock type r is made as a race inspired motor .honda spend. A billion dollars to engineer these engines .and the b20 conversion is there .but the stock head is noway in hell even close to the reliability and performance of the vtec head .I don't know who put in your head that it's a good head to dump $on building but sounds like they scared to deal with or retrofit one on the block .dude you are definitely missing out on what Honda is all fucking about. And that's fucking sad. .b20 v type r head cams oem . ..you b20 stock will no way in hell keep up with the setup I've been smashing in a crx for over 10 years building ls b20 vtec setups .some people actually need to be slapped with a reality stick to get the point. No vtec sucks and your not getting what you need and just have to find out the hard way after spending money and wrenching on the weezing stock b20 head .
@@civicpride1986 yea boosted .but unless your running dual valve springs in that head on any application turbo or not .you will eventually have a problem .good luck.but here in socal the best setups are b20 v hands down. And a turbo just makes it off the hook.lol I can spin tires in the pit and run it to 3rd roasting tires at a standstill lol no turbo ..with turbo Damm spin the tires off.
But .daily smashing and reliability and horsepower to Shit on just about any car on your daily driving commute at a unsurpased level of reliablity confidence is all motor b20v.i don't care what you say.
You should try to adjust your cam gears on a dyno. I went from 175 to 199hp on my 4age ONLY by adusting the cam gears! Might sacrifice midrange torque though but who cares about that anyway haha
Right, more HP!!
Thats a great hp gain, did you have to degree the cams.
Great video mate can see before and after very clearly with minimal talking and lots of car noise! 👌👍
I like that, and agree. "Car noise" ftw!
Nice. Thanks for being up front & detailed overall.
Thanks for watching, appreciate the comment!