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- VoiD explains different kinds of platform movement!
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This makes me grateful that shield dropping is in melee
It's in every game
@@Nikkerman not in ult
@@Nikkerman it's not
@@Nikkerman all of em but ultimate
And just a real wavedash
man i love melee
step 1: press downwards
step 2: quickly press right on the c-stick so that you drop through the platform with a FAir
Step 3: crouch& FTilt on the platform
Step 4: Receive whiff punish
Step 5: Cry
Step 6: Play Melee/P+/Rivals
Step 7: Get carpeltunnel syndrom
@@Harnekampf step 8: repeat step 5
Or doing a big laggy move, but even when you flicked down before the c-stick, you fastfalled it and the attack didn't even come out
Get punished.
These videos are so good I don’t even play smash anymore but these videos are so easy to watch and so interesting that I still watch them
Same !
Have you ever thought of looking into game design you could like it
Yeah I dropped smash but I watched this video till the end lool
i also dropped smash- coming up on 1 year now- and am not subscribed to any “smashers” besides fatality and roninx, but recently i also find myself watching these Void tech videos.
@@chasesigler9885 that's a great idea. Its something that person would probably like
Yo I love these shorter little snippets, they're super interesting and really well paced.
I'm glad isai's name is still relevant years after his time in smash
isai is a legend
isai the falcon goat
The og melee speedster
the myth the legend
@@Parpeing Let's not get ahead of ourselves and call him the Falcon goat. He IS the Falcon pioneer though
@@rackl1039 hes the goat in my heart ❤
There are cooler and better falcons no doubt about it
@@Parpeing dont forget the goat at 64 dk dittos
Fun fact: if you stand under a level 9 cpu on a platform, it will sheild and unshield, sometimes spot dodge. This is likely because the ai is ported and adapted from sm4sh and the ai is trying to sheild drop
Even the game hates how the game doesn't have sheild dropping
Xxsx
TIL the toonlink stage has super satisfying wood sounds. Especially when landing with an aerial
These short informative videos are so useful I have really enjoyed them lately
If you buffer platform drops you will
Often crouch so make sure to time it
yeah I hate it
I've been misinputing dsmashes or dtilt trying to drop down aerial. It's so infuriating.
Lol I go into full panic mode and just straight up mash down stick
platforms be more clingy than stalker exes
In melee the platforms are so slippery you know you wont be around in the morning lmao
already moved on to the next platform 😎 the sigma platform grindset
ughh I wish ult has good wavelands or shield drop nice to know about the double press down tho
Ludosity (the guys who made slap city) really seemed to understand why melee movement is so great, so i really hope the nickelodeon game has that same love
Imagine a world where nickelodeon all star thingy is more popular than ult
what a world lmao
I started smash when ultimate came out so I just learned these things instinctively, but I guess other people might have been helped out a lot
ultimate movement mechanics are very different from previous games, so getting used to ultimate’s mechanics feels strange for people coming from melee/smash 4
@@nnm-hy8ku even brawl
that Isaiah drop shit has changed my life. I get stuck on platforms so much.
If their intention was to lower the skill cap between pros and new players by removing some moderate to difficult tech like shield dropping, they could have made it possible with the shield + special button method that you don't have to precisely tilt your shield but instead hold both buttons and do the shield drop input that way.
This game has a buffer so shield dropping would be easy anyways lol. Just move it from a corner or something
Wow, I really needed to see this video. For months and months I've been trying to nair onto platform then nair through and Isaiah dropping is exactly what the doctor ordered. Thanks void!
Solution is simple. Play on box, you’ll never crouch on platforms accidentally
Another thing to note about plats in general is that if you hold down after you jump under a plat, you fall straight through instead of landing on it
I like these short little tech videos. Keep them up I subscribed for more
amazing video format, and very helpful content🙏🏾
your content has leveled up recently. really enjoyable
4° - Fast Fall and let your stick downwards while landing, you'll past the platform to the solid ground as If wheren't one. even works with high recoveries and free falls a lot as mix up.
thank you mr void
Cool and subbed. Thanks for the tip!
You've been making the best tech videos, please keep going.
What I like doing is running on the the side B-reverse needle charge cancel into a grab/tilt, though that really only works if they expect you to run off and throw out an attack, or they just used a laggy move to try and pressure you/they landed wrong so they’re in lag.
But if they’re at like the edges it throws them off sometimes, idk I just think I’m cool af when I pull it off in the right scenario
VoiD do be giving movement options in a game with arguably no movement options.
I mean yeah, if you ignore walking, running, jumping, double jumping, and air dodging lol
@@jlewis4441 no advanced movement options. Wavedashing is bad, no one wavelands. Everyone foxtrots like it's 2006 no moonwalking for style. This game has very little advanced movement tech, if wavedashing was good I bet they'd be able to do a lot more and Plats would actually be a good thing. I don't see people use them often, game is barely a platform fighter tbh
@@illford6921 play Lucas if you want movement that bad lmao
@@illford6921 can you turbo tbag tho?
@@illford6921 I was bein' sarcastic lol. But jokes aside, isn't Smash like, by definition, a platform fighter? The series that practically pioneerd genre from the late 90's to know.
I'm sure you prefer Melee or something for those reasons, but that's like comparing apples to a slightly different species of apples. At the end of the day, they're both still apples. So calling Ultimate "barely a platform fighter" would also be calling melee "barely a platform fighter", since most of their main core mechanics are the same or similar.
It just so happens that Melee is broken, and can be exploited easily (neither of which are bad things), whilst Ultimate has way more solid game design, and more focuses in in the pure fighting part of the game with much more solid controls. I get it's a matter of preference, I personally think Ultimate is one of the greatest games of all time, but it still shares a lot of it's qualities with Melee. That statement is especially true at a core game design level.
Tl:dr: Melee and Ultimate are both Smash games, one's just more broken than the other. Which doesn't make either better or worse in comparison to one another, just different.
Anyway, that was fun to type, have a nice day.
Ive struggled with platforms and this is super good info
Ayy finally someone made a video on it, been saying since like launch that you could always just double tap and platforms aren't that bad then.
Involving platforms in a totally different situation, when a opponent come to get you from the side or above:
Bait with short hop then drop through the platform and punish the eventual aerial.
Really efficient against swordmen mashing and holding forward in disadvantage.
I don't know if many good player would fall for it, but it kind of allow you to safely delay your decision to punish the landing and sometimes give you free upsmash.
I can easily move and get off platforms.
To move, move the left stick right or left.
To get off, you can jump off, run off, or move the left stick down to go down through it.
if you fast fall but keep the stick down u pass right through the platform
talking about lading without aerials
Thank you because this is getting on my nerves. I feel like It’s been a subconscious thing for me too but when I need to do it most, I’ll be stuck on the platform for like 3 seconds
Add all these to the void guides!! Im sure when people find out about your channel thats the first place theyd look
Even when running off of a platform, you can get stuck. If you let go of the stick before you become airborne, your character will do the stopping animation at the edge instead. You have to hold forward for at least that long.
These recent videos are the reason is subbed
Quick and efficient tech content.
Pretty fucking cool if u ask me
What about short up fast fall and the aerial of your choice After start crossing the platform ?
Sheik's footfalls on the wood of the platforms are my ASMR, never really noticed them before
seeing void land on the platform and crouch triggers a guttural reaction in my body from all the times that’s happened to me 🤢🤢🤢
Can you cover platform movement in general?
I've complained about the sticky platforms since the game came out. Thanks!
MoS Maje has a platform drill video that I would really recommend for ppl who want to get better at platform movement. Great video Void
3:41 You're welcome! The whole vid is great i just thought this part was pretty funny
I still do your drop through air dodge from that super early video you made
I don’t really play ultimate but these videos are *chefs kiss*
Didn't realise that worked in ultimate , I stopped doing that ever since UCF came out for melee, forgotten tech
Wtf lol. This was unexpectedly the best platform guide ever..
So if someone starts shielding/parrying when I run off platform aerial I can just run off platform and grab as a mix up
I struggle to drop through a platform after dropping shield. A lot of the times opponents will hit my shield with an unsafe up smash and I try to drop through nair to punish and I always get a jab on the platform.
I like how void is the one telling people how to play the game
Ultimate platform tech is like a worksheet while melee platform tech is an entire course haha
Thank you Professor void
I love these series of you explaining the basics that all professional smash players know, yet for some reason no one else but you decides to share with beginners to the scene. Thanks void
This game would be 100x better if shield dropping and sliding off plats was a thing
Shield stopping too
THANK YOU
Micromovement is such an important skill to have
terry bogard and his 12 frame plat drop: I pretend I do not see it.
I hate it so much when playing Snake, when I want to run off a platform with a nade pulled and i just run in place for a good second
Can you do a video on SDI?
I just press down down lol. It let's you fast fall through.
King content
Funfact: if you AC an aerial in a platform and hold the stick, you can do the platform drop
how do you reset to have wolf in the same spot under the platform?
It's part of a training mode mod. You can create saved states. Super useful for practicing characters like Wario, so you don't have to constantly wait for waft to charge.
@@Mazlow23 gah of course its a mod haha
*E*
this man gets it
so true
THIS!!!
How do you crouch instead of drop through, that’s what I don’t know how to do.
if you do an aerials and hold down you will buffer crouch
@@jop3249 cheers, but if you're just standing, no way to crouch right? I should be more specific. Do you know how to down smash or d tilt without dropping through?
I hope the devs fix this... Look at the hurdles we have to go through!! 😒😒😒
good video btw!!
Platforms feel way too sticky in this game.
Okay but how does this bring back my wife and kids
I've been competing since 2015 and this is the first time i have ever heard of isai dropping. Maybe its because sm4sh platforms didnt feel as sticky but i feel dumb af for not knowing about it.
Try a landing on a platform you can instantly drop througj
I wish you could shield drop in this game
What about shield drop? Isn't that a thing in ultimate?
No, platforms are awful in this platformer fighting game :)
Surprisingly no, this is the first Smash game to not have shield dropping. According to Cosmos, this has been the case since the demo.
Can you shield drop in ultimate?
No
It might also be worth mentioning that when it comes to “running off the platform”, there is a way to buffer even nair/fair and specials and not worry about getting just a jab/dash attack on the platform, by quickly letting go of the stick, inputting the attack, and then holding it forwards again (ex: forwards->return to neutral->a->forwards again will buffer a nair)
I made a (very hard to follow but hopefully still informative) video about it here:
czcams.com/video/B-6dzCf_2mI/video.html
The ways platforms work in ult make me wanna lose my mind.
Rip shield drop
I dont remember jizzing on those.
Don't worry guys Nickelodeon all stars brawl will have shield dropping
I don't know why people haven't picked up on this yet
I just want to know who thought it was a good idea to make crouching on platforms a thing. You know that's not what the person's going to want at least 95% of the time (especially when playing casually). If I wanted to duck under something, I wouldn't be on a raised platform to begin with.
For very niche scenarios for ducking under projectiles when the opponent is on a platform
Kazuya crouch jab loops on platforms would cease without it I guess
Rip shield drop through platforms
This is cheaper than metaview lessons 😂
No shield drop/edge cancel reeee
@nairomk i think this may help :)
I swear with every smash game, Sakurai makes something weird in it, like I never had a problem with platforms so why now lmao
I think platforms suck in Smash Ultimate
but they are needed for a lot of characters that would otherwise straight up lose in final destination against certain matchups
Can someone just mod in shield dropping!
Figures that the Void channel would be spamming the actually useful stuff
I hate platforms and don't want to play on battlefield ever.
they just get in the way, ruin combos, and mess up where I expect my opponent to be.
Platforms feel more like combo extenders than ruining them, if you learn how to use them they can be really good
@@jaela1557 I know, but platforms have heavier downsides weighing them down than they do upsides.
Stinky platforms
this makes platform camping even more annoying
this video was a bit confusing
i don't... y is this not intuitive to y'all? i literally the 1st time i experienced the "stickiness" of plats in Ult was like 'ok i'll just double tap down'
This is not as good for Steve but the way to go through plats prob is good to know for me thxs
Or just mod in shield dropping lol
Lmao why would you play this game when melee exists it’s baffling to me
This game is so damn bad lmao