How Would The New Super League ACTUALLY Work? | Explained
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2023
- The Super League is back. Yes, just under 2 years since the last iteration was announced in April 2021 and collapsed within 2 days, the idea of a European Super League is back on the table.
On the 9th February 2023, A22 Sports Management, a company created to promote a revamped European Super League announced its proposals, with Chief Executive Bernd Reinhart promising an open competition with no permanent members, based on sporting performance, with the 2021 version receiving the majority of backlash for failing to guarantee this.
But why were the clubs behind the 2021 attempt, most notably Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus refusing to accept defeat and are their restructured plans more likely to succeed? Today on FD Explained we put the revamped European Super League under the microscope and ask; will it actually work?
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I mean there would be room to replace the club world Cup realistically. I dont think many if any fans pay much attention to that. Just like a champions only cup of the 32 biggest leagues in Europe/World pure knockout
That was what the old European Cup used to be. Though all the champions of the 50+ leagues in Europe got in. (There may have been less than 50 at that time, as new nations have emerged, but there was still more than 32.) There was a preliminary round though, with clubs from the lowest coefficient leagues, to whittle down the numbers to 32, where the clubs from the most successful leagues entered. The only non-champions in it were the previous year's winners (if they were no longer champions in their country!) I would re-introduce this fromat and also the old UEFA and Cup Winners Cup's, with their knock out formats and no parachuting of eliminated clubs from one competition to the next. I would rather see this format re-introduced, as it gives pretty much a level playing field for all and would lessen the gap in income between the Champions League and other European competitions, as there would always be big name clubs in the other two competitions.
Of course, the greedy, financially doping, self entitled so called "elite" clubs do not want this and the changes over the years in the European competitions have been to try and appease them and head off a breakaway league! (I also think it's ironic, that many claim that the so called smaller clubs, leech off the bigger ones, when the opposite could also be claimed. Smaller clubs develop huge numbers of players, only to see them being poached by the bigger ones. If those smaller clubs were to wither and die, there would be huge drop in the number of up and coming players and the total job opportunities in football would shrink to a tiny fraction of what they currently are, both for players and other staff!)
Alas, I doubt very much what I'd like to see will be introduced, as money talks, but I think UEFA should stop pandering to those clubs and the plastic fans, who are only interested in those clubs (Falsely believing, that just because they and their friends are plastic and only interested in the top clubs, that everyone else must think that way, including the home-grown fans who per-capita pay by far the most towards their clubs!)
@@ymg8057 Exactly. I'd love to see those competitions back also, but there is too much pandering to the plastic brigade!
The thing is the super League isn't better than uefa and uefa are just as bad as them. Both would drastically increase games to be played and focus on money rather than fans or players l. However the disparity between the prem and other European leagues needs to be looked at and a solution must be found otherwise teams other than bayern, Milan, Madrid, Barca and a couple other big teams would be lost.
I woukd a support a European Super league if it was built into the current football pyramid.
Like you could have a continent wide division 1 with promotion/relegation to a regional division 2 with promotion/relegation to national leagues. That way the big teams would still have to fight to stay in the super league.
That seems fair to me but the big teams don't want that because they don't want to risk being relegated. They want a closed system where they make all the money no matter how bad they play
It's amazing how the bigger clubs in these countries have blamed the premier league and somehow the greed of real madrid and bayern munich etc gets ignored. clubs like villareal should look to get an equal amount of the tv rights, instead of getting shafted.
Why Bayern? Bayern weren't even in the Original Super League nor were PSG. All of Germany and France were against the competition and still are. The Super League is exactly what everyone says it is. Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus trying to get more money along with greedy American owners of English teams
Thank you! Im a Barcelona fan, but it seems like because of us, Real, and even Atletico, the rest of the league is suffering. Everyone looks down on teams which are so underrated like Villarreal because of the lack of media coverage
Let's be honest the super league would be way better than these boring domestic leagues we are bored of seeing big teams like Chelsea and juventus gotta suffer because of these dumb rules
What greed from Bayern 💀 our biggest transfer from the bundesliga is 40 million, our all time biggest transfer is 80 million. And only spent 130 million on 5 players, can’t compare us to the likes of Chelsea or other premier league teams💀 Madrid only spent 80 million on 1 player this year as well. What is Bayern supposed to do? Not buy players at all 😂
Bayern doesn't even want to participate in that super league...
Why don’t other leagues try and follow the PL’s blueprint? Splitting the tv revenue equally among all 20 teams is an absolute must, it makes EVERYONE better, in turn making the league better overall and a better product to watch and sell to the neutrals
That’s just not realistic tho. Even if you did that in Holland and Portugal for example, the top clubs there would still be outspent by the likes of Wolverhampton. Why should clubs like Ajax and benfica be punished for being located in smaller leagues?
what is the premier league blueprint? faking FFP helping shady billionaires to spent a lot of money on overpriced transfers while their clubs are loosing money every year?
@@ble499 it takes time, you can’t expect it to happen overnight. It’s been a snowball effect in the PL, the teams get better each year…meaning the PL gets better overall then the tv rights get better because the league gets better and it just goes from there
@@davidalexandru5749 all the leagues have problems, Italy is corrupt AF, Spain allows Barca and Real to keep taking the lion’s share of tv revenue, Germany has strict ownership rules, France’s clubs just aren’t that big…we have clubs like Leeds and Sunderland who weren’t in the PL for years but dwarf their clubs in terms of size. Instead of complaining about the PL, fix your own league first
@@GIBBO4182 is not about fixing a league but when nottingham forest boys 30 players 2 3 from witch are loaned out 2 days after they are bought to a team who have nowere near enough money to pay them i see a problem. I think that bundesliga is an example for other leagues. Talking about Barca and Real Madrid Barca are doing a lot of shady things but Real Madrid is one of the only 2 3 teamh who didn't loose any money during the pandemic but they didn't realy sign manny big players. La Liha has problems.
Why should the whole footballing world help Real Barca and Juve stay rich? They should focus on making their own leagues competitive
I know. They are like a group of spoilt, self entitled kids at a school, who have a vastly inflated impression of their own popularity, who arrange a party which they expect all the other "popular" kids to attend. They are looking forward to all the less popular and cool ones begging to be invited also, a tiny handful of whom they may allow in. They are then shocked to discover that few other people, out with their small clique actually like them and hardly anyone wants to attend their shitty party!
I am no great fan of the Premier League and am all for lessening the wealth gap between the leagues of Europe a bit, but the likes of Barca, Real and Juve only want things levelled up down to their own levels. To hell with levelling things up between themselves and the leagues in the likes of Poland, Austria, Portugal, Denmark, The Netherlands, or Scotland etc., or indeed, between themselves and the "lesser" clubs in their own leagues! When they complain about the Premier League, they are like bullies, who once bullied all the other kids in their school, but now other kids are tougher than them and are able to bully them. Or like a group of millionaires, who complain that another group, are now far wealthier than them and are demanding that they should be taxed to even up the wealth gap between themselves and those people. You know, they probably should be taxed, but the group demanding this would go nuts, if it was also decided to tax them as well, in order to lessen the gap between themselves and those less well off than them!
Exactly. There is all this talk about closing the gap in wealth between the Premier League and the other leagues of Europe, but those greedy, spoilt brat, self entitled clubs who are behind the ESL, only want the gap closed between themselves and the Premier clubs. They couldn't care less about closing the gap between themselves and the "peasant clubs" from the "farmers leagues", or indeed between themselves and the other clubs from their own leagues! They are perfectly happy to make the gap between themselves and such unworthy riff raff even bigger! I'd also like to see the wealth gap made less between the Prem and the other leagues, but between it and EVERYONE, not just between it and those plastics, who as I've said, couldn't care less about those they see as being below them!.
lol...you are speaking as if rest all the clubs are rich. Everybody loves money. All the clubs are in neck deep debt. Man utd are selling their club. Ditto with spurs.
@@loveyourlife9946 All the clubs should be living within their means, given that all of them are taking in FAR more money than they did historically! They are like someone who gets a far higher paying job than they did previously, but who starts to splash out money indiscriminately, flashing their cash about and showing off their wealth, trying to outdo other people in the same situation as themselves, whilst living FAR beyond their means!
How did those clubs survive two World Wars? How did they get by when there was no and later very little televised football? How did they survive when there was no shirt sponsorship? How did they survive the large drop in attendances to FAR lower levels than today, from the 1960's to the 1980's? How did they survive the upsurge in hooliganism in the 1970's and 1980's? How did the English ones survive being banned from Europe for several seasons after 1985? How did EVERY club survive prior to the mid-1950's, when there were no European competitions? How did they survive, when there was FAR smaller global audiences than today? (Even if the proportionate size of global audiences and the financial contribution they make, compared to European audiences, is often grossly exhaggerated! I even saw one halfwit, claim that 200 million would watch the ESL in Singapore, ignoring the inconvenient truth that Singapore has a population of just 6 million!) How were most clubs able to rebuild their stadia, or move to new ones in some cases, in recent decades?
And yet, Perez claims that football is in crisis and needs saving! The greedy clubs who tried to form the ESL may be in financial trouble in some cases, but they should not be behaving like greedy, overspending, self-entitled brats! Creating a competition, like the ESL though, which will attract FAR lower audiences than the Champions League, is not going to make them nearly as much money as they seem to think and when it crashes and burns, those clubs would be in a hell of a lot more financial trouble than at present! 4 billion viewers? Don't make me laugh! Anyone like Perez who makes such ludicrous claims for an ESL, or indeed ANY football tournament, clearly lives on a different planet! 4 billion is HALF the population of the ENTIRE Earth! (Though perhaps Perez is counting the audience for the ESL from his home planet, amongst those 4 billion, as there sure as hell won't be 4 billion Earthlings watching it!)
By the way, my club, Hibernian, from my local so called "farmers league" are not neck deep in debt, (despite completely rebuilding their ground since the mid 1990's), because they live within their means and do not overspend. Yes, they may only win the occasional domestic trophy (though in the past they have reached two European semis and eliminated the likes of Barca, Porto, Sporting, Napoli etc. from Europe), but when they win something, I at least know they have not financially doped, in order to win it and, despite not being the force in Europe they once were and it being 71 years since their last Scottish League Title, they have been getting the largest average attendances in recent seasons, since the 1950's, despite no longer having a 60,000+ stadium!) But, of course, no one wants to watch such clubs, do they? The ESL supporting plastics, who couldn't even point to the city where the club they pretend to support plays on a blank map and who would be off to pastures new, if they started to struggle in the ESL, think that just because their plastic, glory hunting friends also love plastic, airbrushed football, that everyone else in the rest of the World is also like that!
While I am still not sure about the Super League if and if it will ever work (unless they are willing to let teams outside from Top 5 leagues take part based from domestic league performance, have knockout rounds etc) but the harsh reality is that UEFA is already ruining the Champions League by applying the Swiss model starting with the 2024/25 season.
Not to mention the massive disparity between the Premier League and other European Leagues.
Soo lets reduce amount of foreign players in teams maybe only 5 per team you will see how quickly the advantage of moneybags disappear
Maybe if Barca and real had distributed tv money amongst the league instead of taking it all for themselves, they’d have a better product to sell
And less money to compete with the Prem. and it´s more and more state own clubs. Not making an excuse for them, just pointing out this is a double-edged sword if you put yourself in their position.
Still, don't know about La Liga, but the main difference in Bundesliga (as far as I know similar in the tv money distribution to the Prem.) between Bayern and BVB isn't the TV revenue rather than the sponsorship money.
There is a lot other leagues can do better. They still have a point going against Prem. as well as UEFA.
(That said, I'm a fan of the current UCL format and wouldn't push for a change.)
Don't want super league anywhere near the beautiful game 😤
The ignorance of clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona is outstanding. Perhaps they should focus their energies on making La Liga a more competitive league, and therein a better product, instead of lazily trying to capitalise on the popularity of the PL. A good start might be to insist on a more even distribution of TV revenue; 21/22 both Real & Barca banked €160m each from TV revenue. In comparison Atleti (who won the league) banked €130m, whilst Sevilla (who finished just 2pts behind Barca) only took home €88m - almost half that of the team that only just finished above them. Contrast that with the PL 20/21, where top placed city took home £155m vs 20th place Sheffield United’s £95m.
The team who spent the most money in the world on players this season is 10th in the prem. I think that's one of the reasons why the prem generates so much tv revenue. The fact that TV revenue is split evenly reduces the gap in quality of the teams across the whole league from top to bottom. In the prem there's usually a multitude of teams who are viable title candidates. 1 horse races in a league just aren't that exciting. Bundasliga is a one horse race, ligue 1 is a one horse race, la liga is a 2 horse race year on year. It's just not that exciting when there's a massive disparity between the teams in the league. Entertainment and marketing are key. There's a few comments saying that EPL teams don't perform in European competitions in the same way bayern and real do. There's obviously many reasons for this. But when you are in a 1 horse race domestically you can pretty much solely focus on European competitions knowing that the league is already locked up. There is also definitely an advantage on the global scale because of the language as well.
Super League already exists
It's named Premier League
Yet they still get outclassed in Europe. Without money EPL would be a minor league
@@Scott-vk8crdo they? Barca, PSG, Bayern and Real in particular have a decent record but wheres the depth? EPL consistently has 3 or 4 quarter finalists and multiple semi finalists. As for the money argument, that's like saying "Elon Musk would be poor if he didn't have all his money"
@@rikachu571 For all the money and you boast about Semifinals and quarterfinals. Its about being the best and English teams more often than not is the loser when up against the truly elite(Barca/Real/Bayern). Its kinda pathetic that even with money, the very best players still prefer Real Madrid and Barca. That says it all so the money argument is totally valid. If Barca and Madrid had the money EPL teams had they would dominate infinitely more than what the English teams have so far
The premier league isn’t a break away league that completely crumbles the football pyramid.
The other leagues are only suffering because they irresponsibly spent like the premier league clubs when they don’t make the same money
@@rikachu571 La Liga has significantly more representatives in the QF and semis of the UCL and UEL
Barca, Juve and Real: "Instead of supporting our own league, looking at how we can improve the league and teams in it and get better marketing, we are just going to blame the Premier League for our financial imbalance. We are gonna destroy financial disparity by creating The Super League where only the richest get money whilst the poor don't get any money, creating and even bigger financial disparity. Not only that, we are also going to add more games so every footballer never get any rest. Yes. We are going to extinguish the fire with an even bigger fire."
In all fairness the Premier League is probably the worst thing that has happened to Football in the history of the game.
@@euanparker2534 Interesting opinion. Could you elaborate why that is. I'm curious. Thanks mate
@@AlbertSpice he’s a buffoon. premier league clubs hve attracted wealthy owners by being highly profitable and wealthy beforehand. The premier league has gotten where they are through smart investments and attempting to raise the level of all clubs.
@@AlbertSpice The Premier League destroyed the balance of English football, it was formed by the top teams as part of a surprise attack on the English Football League. It has resulted in a first division that is so lucrative that teams in the second division need to spent far beyond their means in order to access the PL funds, destabilising the whole pyramid. It makes remaining in the PL much harder, squeezes fans, profits big businesses and screws over the 72 teams not in the PL.
Maximus Orbis claims PL teams are highly profitable - they aren't. Very few make any profit - there is no smart investment the money comes from TV and injections of cash from wealthy owners. We now outspend the European leagues to an impossible degree and yet see very little significant improvement in performance compared to them - as evidenced by record of European competition.
@@maximusorbis2548 That is a very limited understanding of what the PL is.
Brighton and Hove Albion is higher in the Deloitte money league than Benfica? Doesn't like 60% of Portugal support them? And they have the best transfers
I think its a better model of competition for the smaller footballing nations and if the EPL clubs wouldn't take any chance in competing in it then more space and money for them. More playing time for the supposedly good players who don't usually get exposed to higher level of competition so their real ability would show (in a healthy market, Mudryk is 30mill at best, please.)
And let's be honest here, UEFA needs a rival for check and balance.
are you english? You know that would mean that the teams would become globetrotters right?
Great video ,but reading these comments makes me laugh at how prem fans that never follow leagues outside of the UCL & EPL suddenly become financial experts that know everything going on in other leagues.
I mean if they want it enough, they will likely remove another competition too make place for the super league.
Ummmm I like this idea. Despite being an American Pro/Rel hater technically I can see this being an answer to balancing out football some in Europe. And helping players well-being as well... Because 14 games a season for these clubs; since OBVIOUSLY they would only be taking part in these Super League matches since their respective domestic leagues would be way down the relegation food chain in what technically would be all one big connected system, is WAY less than the like 34 league games a year or however many it is each club plays. Yeah, technically you have to consider the knockout stages as well which would add what, like 8 matches? Depending on how far your club would go. Still way less. And would make the burden of playing in domestic cup matches and getting called up for international matches a lot less exhausting.
Edit: Just realized this video was WAY BEFORE the European Court of Justice made the ruling that made the Super League possible again. Either way it sounds interesting to me. Especially the UNIFY streaming service that has been promised to broadcast every Super League game for free. :)
I'd want the Club World Cup replaced with more teams, that'll spread the money better and also more people would watch. 6 continental champions, top 5 European league champions, plus 1 each from other continents. That's 16 teams. 4 groups, Quarter finals and so on. Reduce top 5 European leagues to 18 teams, take away the second domestic cups in those leagues.
A tournament on sporting merit (champions mainly), big teams stop playing second domestic cup that they'd like to avoid, or possibly keep the second domestic cup and give dispensation for Club World Cup participants to field fringe and youth players.
They should make it like a world cup except it happens every year
Very interesting
I’m a Benfica fan and to be honest the super league proposal does not help any team outside the top 5 European leagues like Ajax, PSV, Benfica, Porto or Sporting.
It is clearly made to satisfy the economic demands of giants like Real Madrid or Barcelona.
I think every country should follow England’s example and try to make its league more competitive, because what happens is that the Spanish league for instance is very easy for the 2 best teams and it does not attract a lot of interest from other countries. In order to do so, every league should basically distribute the money more fairly, as in the PL since 1992.
I would love to see teams like Benfica win the champions league, so I think uefa should also have its role here. They should clearly put a maximum limit on player’s transfer values. Football is turning into greed and it’s not nice to see it. I think the PL clubs contributed to that, but to be honest there is no other option with clubs like Real Madrid or PSG as their main competitors. UEFA should act fast
I believe the Prem league is bringing more money cuz it's very well marketed.
As an Indian I easily watch more Prem games more than others cuz timings are more better.
The prems easily Got better pre match shows and commentary compared to others.
I almost always see memes on Prem league even if they're not from the top 6. But rarely do I see memes from other leagues. I just mean there's just much more coverage and activity in the Prem.
That's because it's in English which makes it more marketable to the rest of the world because they also speak English.
time zones are a thing, most of the other Top 6 leauges are either in a time zone 1 hour ahead or 2 hours behind so in terms on timing of matches it should not be that much differnt.
In terms of memes, EPL people are more vocal online since more countires watch EPL, if the same ammount watched each of the TOP 6 leauges then you would see the memes from thoese leauges too so what you are saying kinda just suits your narrative
@@NinjaDemon84 there's a lot of memes, they're just not in English so you won't see them online if you only speak English. The other leagues refusal to make more English speaking content has caused this disparity in wealth + the epl having almost all the oil money there.
@@NinjaDemon84 lmao in India all la Liga matches start at 1:30 am 💀meanwhile epl matches start at 6pm Or 8 pm
@@williamh3990 exactly! I mean there would be more money flowing in if they'd expand their horizons more. It's a multi-million dollar industry ffs. It just needs better Marketing.
What if EPL clubs refuses to join this super leave, how will that work out
why will they refuse? Everybody loves more money plus have a look at their debt size.
It is only normal the big european clubs try something like the superleague, because economically it already exists, the premier league.
Some teams will still be able to fight, like Bayern or Real Madrid, but for example, from la Liga perspective, from Atlético and down, no team can compete signings with any Premier league team. If this continues, it is a matter of time English teams will dominate in Europe as well, premier league will have all the world audience and money as all the good players are there.
Unless you are English, the future of European football seems bleak
Not the prems fault other leagues like la liga were too focused on Real Madrid and Barca when la liga was on top. All the money went to Barca and real, during this time the prem was going through a rough patch in European competitions. But the prem were smart because they began distributing the money evenly among teams, and now this is paying dividends for the league. Once la liga does that then maybe their league will become just as attractive as the prem
@Mateo A. of course! Premier league is a great of example of how to do things right. Another thing they do well in comparison with Germany and Spain is how easy is to buy a club and invest money
And yet in some leagues such as the Scottish, Dutch and Danish leagues, more people seem to be attending matches than they were years ago. I am no fan of the Premier League and would like to see the gap closed between it and the rest of Europe financially. However, creating some trashy Super League, will simply increase the gap between the haves and have nots. If a club is relegated from it, or does not qualify for it from the start, it will prove almost impossible to get into it. Given there are over 50 leagues in Europe, there would be a situation where huge numbers of clubs would be fighting for just 3 or 4 promotion places to it. Also, how many fans of the THOUSANDS of clubs effectively excluded from it will watch it? I can assure you that I will not and I am sure I am not alone!
Let's go and beat the PL financially! From a Juve fan! No need for PL clubs if they don't like it
The Premier League played the long game in distributing cash between the clubs to create a more interesting and engaging league, rather than create a closed shop like La Liga and Serie A to create super clubs that would win the Champions league. Now Florentino Pérez can't handle that it actually makes shit TV and people actually want a competitive league. This is their last ditch attempt to save their monopoly.
Yes I see it important to distribute cash evenly amongst the team
played the long game XD all your clubs belong to Middle East and all the money too and still fail, but money cant buy greatness and history.
Better than rhe new CL format
I'm crying when people are seeing "other leagues used to do it too"
Even when the Serie A was the best in the world or La Liga, also PL teams were spending BIG money like Chelsea/United in the 00's, Newcastle in the 90's, Arsenal, ...
The problem here is that ONLY the Premier League can spend money, it's absolutely ridiculous what European football is becoming. And while it's fairplay to them to have developed their league well it's also because they completely sold their soul. The fact that entire states are buying English clubs is absolutely ridiculous and they don't even follow the FFP rules either
those fans will cry when their teams leave their city and it becomes like the US were teams move around like globetrotters.
The last person you should ever take anything seriously from is Javier Tebas.
No
I agree that some financial changes have to happen but Super League is a football killer as much as a world cup every 3 or 2 years instead of 4, nations league is already stretching football.
Instead of trying to create a Super League then why noy distribute the amount of money equally in all leagues instead of letting clubs like Barcelona and Madrids hogging almost 30% of all tv money to allow other clubs a chance to compete
The gap between the Premier League and rest of Europe is ridiculous, if the ESL fixes this then I’m all for it
The likes of Barca, Real and Juve do not care about closing the gap between themselves and the "rest of Europe", just about closing the gap between themselves and the Premier League clubs. To hell with anyone else! It would in fact increase the gap between clubs playing in an ESL and those effectively locked out of it. Oh yes, but of course there will be supposed promotion and relegation from the ESL, only, assuming those behind it don't then decide to do away with relegation once its up and running, it would be extremely difficult for anyone outside it to gain entry to it. At present, if a top club in a league fails to qualify for the Champions League one season, then they still have a fair chance of qualifying for it the next. With just a tiny handful of promotion places up for grabs in the ESL for new clubs not in it from the start, it would be exceptionally difficult.
Of course, I suspect the whole thing would be a disaster and not last long, as I think the viewing figures would be a tiny fraction of what the fools behind it think they would be. I don't know anyone who has voiced an opinion on it who has said they support an ESL and they have all said that they will boycott it!
@@wir154 It would be largely the lowest contributing fans, of dubious loyalties, of those clubs in general (some probably watching them on pirated services), who would be most interested in watching it! Whilst it is likely to be largely the genuine, core, per capita, highest contributing fans, who would be turned off by it! It may be the only thing that would shake their loyalty to their club. Oh, but of course, all the plastic fans will be interested and watch it. But just watch as, say Man City, end up regularly playing in the lower reaches of it and the Johnny Come Lately, plastic, glory hunters, who have in recent years started to pretend to support them, melt away, moving to pastures new, or abandoning football altogether, if it becomes less fashionable! You know, the sort of fans who probably wouldn't even have heard of City back in 1999, when they had a season in the English Third Flight. (Or, if they had, sure as hell wouldn't have been remotely interested in them!) Meanwhile, huge numbers of genuine fans would have been alienated, by their participation in the dull, plastic, repetitive, elitist tournament!
Also, do the fools behind this, genuinely believe that any more than a tiny fraction of the fans of the THOUSANDS of clubs not playing in the ESL, and with little prospect of ever playing in it, will watch it? Those behind the ESL are like a bunch of spoilt, self-entitled celebrities, with an over-inflated sense of their own popularity, holding an exclusive party and expecting loads of people who are not invited to it, to turn up, to watch them walk down the red carpet into their party, only to be shocked to discover that hardly anyone turns up and that FAR less people actually like them than they thought!
Same madness, different method
Why tf would Man United be in the super league1 and Liverpool and Barca in super league2?
What would happen to he other leauges
We dont care !
I think super league idea is good. But i dont want groups. 3 leagues. 16 teams in First league. 30 games total home and away. Just ilke a normal league. And first 1 became champion. There should be also a super cup. All 3 leagues should be involved with traditional cup system. Teams should leave their national leagues, just should play in national cups. 3rd league should be 2 division and 16+16=32 teams and 4 teams should be relegated from each division. There should be another cup for successful teams in local leagues. And first 8 teams in this cup should earn a place in super league 3rd division. So very dynamic league. And the best part there is no quality difference inside the leagues. Every game is on wire.
Also My first super league would be
-real, Barcelona, atletico, milan, Juventus, inter, Bayern, psg, City, liverpool, chelsea, dortmund,manu, porto, benfica, ajax
Second league
-arsenal, Tottenham, Newcastle, roma, Lazio, Napoli, sevilla, bilbao , Villarreal, leipzig, marsilya, psv, s.lizbon, lyon, valencia, atalanta
I choose the teams not only depending on their current status but also their historical success in european cups
Big no to the Super League! The Premier League destroyed the european football though.
Didn't European football destroy itself?
How did the prem destroy football?? The only reason leagues like la liga are in the shit is because their wealth distribution is so poor the league isn’t competitive. They spoonfed the madrid and barca owners for decades while neglecting the rest of the league, whereas the premier leagues wealth distribution is much more even which makes for a better and more competitive league. Now they’re just bitter that the premier league clubs are picking all the talent from across the world just like they used to be able to do
It is not like PL clubs are dominating europe. we still have to see, how the financial disparty will change things
The league sold its soul and by this, caused an unbalanced unfair financial structure.
A Disgrace To European Football
It's not the premier leagues fault that la liga and series A is boring
Absolutely not if you missed out on the champions league you missed out, just do better next season
They must do it without the premier league if it’s so great
Not feeling good how FD is slowly turning in favor of a super league…
SUper leauge is trash but I do think something needs to be done to bridge the gap in finacial power of the EPL and other top leauges. Not saying to limit and controll the EPL but to boost and elevate the financial capacity of the other leauges. How it can be done no clue
I don't agree with the super league because I think the European clubs have it wrong the EPL overspend but it doesn't show on the pitch as they rarely win titles outside England they need to focus on modernising revenue streams and keeping players from this EPL will always be at the top revenue wise as they literally sell their clubs to the highest bidder and also have the English language as a cheat code. serie a needs to allow teams to build their own teams la liga needs to allow their teams to spend more than just 40 percent of what they make other European leagues want sustainability EPL is just a gimmick the fact that their transfer window gets more traction than their league is proof of this
We’ve already got a Super League and it’s called The Premier League.
The new government white paper effectively states that if English clubs were to do this they would be barred from operating in the UK. Currently it is just a white paper as the government hopes that the fa, pl and efl will sort it out, but if they don't a independent regulator will be introduced.
Interesting that a day after the white paper, the premier league announced new stronger owner, director and chairman tests, that the owners, directors and chairman have to pass every year, not just when new buyers come calling, and it is both immediately in effect and applies to all clubs.
people blaming the Prem for being a Super League should think about WHY the Prem has so much more money across the entire league
they were able to market their competition super well, appeal to the general public/average fan and spread their TV & broadcasting funds more evenly than most other leagues
stop blaming others for the failures of your own
Please google the word monopoly
@@deceo2119 good game tbf
I love individualism and jingoism/ego leading to a divide amongst fans
Scottish clubs Celtic, Aberdeen and Rangers should join the European Super League.
No they shouldn't. like everyone else, they should not touch this vile, plastic, airbrushed idea with a barge pole, or trust the slime balls behind it in a million years! I support a Scottish club, but am dead against them joining this abomination!
@@wir154 no way. We need a European Super League for the smaller nations. The present system just ensures clubs from the small natioms.will never.compete.with teams.from the big countries. I want Aberdeen, Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs and Dundee United in a European Super League.
An ESL would be no more plastic than any UEFA troojhy. If the English do not want a ESL, fair enough but do not stoo Scottish clubs joining..
@@rorysmith2415 I know no one who supports an ESL and everyone I know cares more about home grown rivalries, than they do about seeing their clubs regularly play Europe's "elite", or indeed less elite in some cases. Also, given that there are more than 50 leagues in Europe, Scotland is unlikely to get anywhere close to the number of clubs you mention in it. It would probably just be Celtic and Rangers and, given that I do not support either of those clubs, I will not be watching it! Also, if Celtic and Rangers end up playing in different divisions of an ESL, which would be likely to happen at some point, then there could be no more Old firm matches for ages. Also, let's see how loyal their fans are, when they end up losing far more regularly! They have both had spells with FAR lower average attendances, than they get now, when they have faced some real competition at home in the past and haven't been so dominant.
I'm a Hibs fan and I want to see them playing Hearts, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen etc. (rivalries that actually mean something to me), rather than watch them regularly play the likes of Standard Liege, Belenenses and Basle, in the 4rth division of an ESL, or something! I'd also rather see them play their home grown rivals regularly, more than I'd want to see them regularly face the likes of Barca, Real etc. I like Europe to be the icing on the cake, not the cake itself, even if Hibs may not qualify for Europe every season. Facing clubs from the Continent as a matter of routine, would soon become dull.
Also, any clubs who get relegated from an ESL will have a Herculean (perhaps almost impossible) task to get promoted back into it. (Assuming the creeps behind it don't do away with relegation, after a few seasons!) This thing is all about keeping the likes of Barca, Real, Juve at the top and is not being done for the betterment of smaller leagues, after all!
The best way to give clubs from the smaller leagues more of a chance in Europe, would be to re-introduce the old knock out European Cup, European Cup Winners cup and UEFA Cups (and also strictly enforce financial fair play along the way!), not some plastic ESL, that the Scottish clubs would have virtually no chance of winning!
I completely agree with the assessment on UEFA and the current structure of football in Europe. I'll also argue that the premier league is the current superleague. However I don't think this is the right solution. This format is complete garbage.
If it’s a open competition then why not go for it
An open competition with just a tiny handful of promotion places to compete for every season, between clubs from the over 50 European leagues, so there would be very little chance of gaining promotion to it. At present, there are places in the Champions League (or it's qualifiers) for clubs from EVERY league, each season. True, as many clubs as possible should start at the same stage in the Champions League, rather than some clubs having to go through endless qualifying rounds to get to where the self-entitled, spoilt brat, self-styled "elite" clubs get to enter the competition by right and I would much rather see it living up to its name and being just for champions, with the old knock out European Cup format (with other clubs playing in the other European competitions), but the Champions League is nowhere near impossible to get into, as the ESL would be!
@@ymg8057 Exactly!
Super league is awesome
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It's only the English clubs who don't support the formation of the Super League since it's only them who can spend 500M every single window, yet they still fail to win European trophies year after year despite this handicap given to Spanish, Italian, German, French, and Portuguese clubs. Once non-English clubs are able to spend as big as the English clubs, these English clubs will be nothing but an after thought in European football lol
Unfortunately if other European teams take the same approach as Premier League teams they will receive the same results. Money doesn't buy success, strategy does.
I mean, the team who spent the most money in the world on players this season is 10th in the prem. I think that's one of the reasons why the prem generates so much tv revenue. The fact that TV revenue is split evenly reduces the gap in quality of the teams across the whole league from top to bottom. In the prem there's usually a multitude of teams who are viable title candidates. 1 horse races in a league just aren't that exciting. Bundasliga is a one horse race, ligue 1 is a one horse race, la liga is a 2 horse race year on year. It's just not that exciting when there's a massive disparity between the teams in the league. Entertainment and marketing are key.
In that case an ESL will soon be in place, without the Premier League clubs then, won't it? _ _ _ Only it wont, will it? The fans in Germany won't allow their clubs to join it and, here in Scotland I haven't detected much support for it amongst either clubs, or fans. Certainly NO ONE I know, has indicated any support for it. Every fan I know here HATES the idea, no matter where they come from originally and who they support! I am no fan of the Premier League and like most fans here, despite living right on the doorstep of the Premier league, I support a Scottish club. They could go to Hell though, if they ever tried to join such a dull, plastic, airbrushed, elitist competition as a European Shit League!
I know no one who supports the concept of an ESL and have not heard of any clubs from where I come from who have indicated support for it either. Are you posting this on behalf of a PR company, who has instructed you to try and create demand where it does not exist, by implying that support for it out-with England is almost universal, hoping that magically, if you say this often enough it will become true? Because it is not true! In my experience it is largely non-Europeans (and just a fraction of them), a few fans of the likes of Barca and Real etc. (and again not all of them), a few wet behind the ears 14 year old's, who do not yet properly understand European football culture and history (like many in the first group I mentioned) and, of course, the phantom PR trolls, who pop up and post suspicious comments on these videos, who mostly seem to support the ESL, not the core football fans!
I am no fan of the Premier league, but I know NO ONE, who supports an ESL and which clubs from out-with England who are behind an ESL are you referring to? Yes, by all means even things up between the leagues in Europe, but an ESL is just designed to try and keep the likes of Barca, Real and Juventus fixed at the top permanently. It will not create a level playing field within European football and will create even more of a divide between the haves and have not's in football, than the Premier League, or the Champions League does.
BOOOO
Even with their money, Liverpool is out and I hope Chelsea and Spurs are also kicked out. Man City cannot win the UCL and that is where the only remaining Spanish team comes in💪💪
This simply beneftis Spanish and Italian teams, Again terrible idea they are wasting their time
How so?
The scary thing that it will. Who doesnt like new format with blockbuster game EVERY NIGHT? following US sports like NBA, MLB is the pathway clubs want. More games, endless entertainment
one of the main selling points of the champions league is to see clubs that rarely have a chance to go up against each other (though you do see the same clubs) but in recent years we see Villarreal made a run, Ajax, and Monaco. teams that don't get the spotlight and with limited resources compared to those around them.
I legit can't fathom why people like the super league, it's just a way for the big clubs to try and remain there place at the top while everyone else suffers and doesn't get a piece of the pie.
uefa is corrupt no doubt about that but if you think real madrid, Barcelona, juventus have the best interest for the sport in mind, go outside and touch grass (I say this as a Barcelona fan who will jump ship the moment this ever becomes a reality)
@@ninjabathat2792 Exactly! However, I do not think that more than a minority of fans like the Super League. And, very few of them are the core, highest contributing fans, but mainly the Johnny Come Lately, plastic, glory hunters, of dubious loyalties, half of them probably watching matches on pirated services and even the ones who are watching it on legitimate services, are mainly paying a fraction of what the home grown fans pay for it per capita! There also seems to be floods of PR trolls commenting on these videos. I've certainly seen a few suspicious comments and someone whom used to work in PR on another video, also said that they could recognise many signs of the PR brigade being at work!
Yeah throw shade at premier league.
It's like woman's football equal payment stunt all over again.
Sell better product , get more money , invest that money. Not blame others for your inability
I find it that utd fans are against this but not Qatar owning their team 😂😂
And they are also against oil owners owning Newcastle and city but insist it's fine if Qatar own their team 😂😂😂😂
The Glazers are THAT hated.
Súper league is a dumb idea
The new proposal is basically the champions league but without UEFA’s name on it. Why is it unfair?
UEFA don’t get paid basically
How is it like the Champions League? Clubs have to qualify for the Champions League EVERY SEASON, they do not automatically get places by right! Though UEFA seem to be pandering to the self entitled, spoilt brat, so called "elite" cubs of Europe, by making their competitions increasingly plastic and elitist, but nowhere near as bad as an ESL would be. The only fair way to have an ESL, would be to have a qualifying tournament for it, with clubs from EVERY league in Europe, but of course, the way the likes of Barca and Juve have been performing in Europe recently, they would be lucky to qualify and they only want a competition that they are in from the start. (Even with a fair qualifying tournament for it, I would not watch it, as my club would probably not be playing in it and I would rather watch paint drying than watch it anyway! I care more about home-grown rivalries, than I do about watching my club play the plastic, self-appointed "elite" of Europe. Barca would want my club, Hibernian, banned anyway, give what happened to them, the time they did play them in Europe!)
I look forward to Juve not even qualifying for Europe at all next season, something that would not happen, if the ESL was in place! I am no fan of the Premier League, but Newcastle United, a club who have not won their league since 1927, attract FAR higher attendances at their matches than Juve (even managing to average more than 10,000 MORE than them the last season they played in the English SECOND Flight and Juve were winning Serie A!) So, why the hell should Juve automatically get into an ESL and not Newcastle, who seem to have a far bigger core support? Yes, attendances do not measure everything, but they are a good measure of a clubs core, most loyal and dedicated, highest contributing support, as opposed to the wet behind the ears, Johnny Come Lately, plastic glory hunters, of dubious loyalties, who have never been to the city the club they pretend to support comes from, would soon be off to pastures new, if they started to struggle and are probably watching them on some pirated streaming service.
(Incidentally, my "farmers league" in Scotland, attracts a FAR higher divisional average attendance PER HEAD OF POPULATION, than either Serie A, or La Liga! (In fact, they often get the highest per capita divisional average in Europe!) In 2017/18 for instance, the Scottish premiership averaged 59% of the divisional average of La Liga and 64% of that of Serie A. However, Scotland has just 11.5% of Spain's population and less than 9% of Italy's! I can assure you also, that NO ONE I know has indicated support for any sort of ESL and anyone who has voiced an opinion on it, has said that they'd boycott it, even from amongst the few supporters of English "Big Six" clubs I know! I know no fans of the big clubs in Spain and Italy, by the way! People don't care about the Milan Derby, or El Plastico here!)
The new proposal is the same with a new name and more money. The English are opposed because it’s more then just football, football is how they control their world. If this goes through it’d be murder she wrote for them.
Because it is NOT "basically the Champions League"! Clubs have to qualify for the Champions League each season ON MERIT! Yes things are made easier for clubs from certain leagues and there should be a more level playing field in it for all, but nevertheless clubs have to earn their places in it each season ON MERIT! There are no guaranteed places like there would be for the clubs who would be in the ESL right from the start!
Not our fault that their leagues are shite.
Cannot wait for the Super League 🔥🔥🔥
Plastic fan...
Same, hope the Super League happens in my lifetime
I want this to happen...😂
WE NEED SUPER LEAGUE
Screw FIFA and Efootball, Dream League is the most realistic game
Only english football fans are doing protest because their league is the richest in the world. If super league comes in existence then the premier league's reign will get over. Premier league will get doomed and that is what i want to see.
Spoken like a true casual
Ten pounds says you're a Real fan who can't point to Spain on a map.
No, English sides protested because it felt like the owners were using their club as a commodity to line their pockets. Why do you think fifty plus one is advocated for?
I'm Scottish and am no great fan of the Premier League. However, EVERYONE I know, no matter where they come from (most of whom shock, horror, actually support Scottish clubs, or at least clubs where they come from originally!) HATES the very concept of a European Shite league!
@@willbentley8856 The other highly likely possibility is that they are a PR troll! Seen plenty of signs of them in the comments of these videos!