Will FIFA's New Club World Cup Overtake The Champions League? | Explained
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- In 2025, FIFA will finally launch their latest competition, with the first edition of the newly-revamped Club World Cup set to take place in the United States during the months of June and July.
That means that the 2023 Club World Cup, due to take place in Saudi Arabia this December, will be the final one in its current format, with the competition expanding from just seven teams to 32, and taking place every four years rather than annually.
And following moves by Saudi Arabia and the USA to rival Europe's dominance in the sport, could FIFA's latest venture become more popular and prestigious than the Champions League in the future? Could we see the next Haaland or Messi joining Al-Hilal or Urawa Red Diamonds in their prime as they look to win the competition?
On today's FD Explained, we take a look behind the curtain at FIFA's bid for dominance in club football.
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Do you think FIFA can rival UEFA when it comes to club football?!
...UEFA is a member of FIFA though 🤔
Champions league is for EUROPE not the club World Cup which is for the whole world. Champions league will bring more money to the clubs so no it will not replace the champions league
yes, club football should be a global game, and not just a monopoly of europe
Nooooooooo why every 4 years, every 2 or 3 years was better, some players miss their chances because 4 years is too long, they get burnout or injuries in that four years span, if it’s in every 2 or 3 years we will get fresher n more newer players every fifa club World Cup and legends can participate multiple times, legends like messi n ronaldo, if they in their 35/36, every 2 of 3 years they will be like 37/38 for their one last participation but every 4 years they will be 40, that’s too old.
Only UEFA are allowed to overplay players...fifa should rather focus on something that exclude europe...cause they have that 7 and 10...while them two still play..people want them two to stay relevant...
English guy here. I’ve enjoyed European dominance in Football since I can remember, but I’m not against the rest of the World getting a look in tbh. Football is a global game; it shouldn’t just be confined to Europe tbf
This is just going to lead to super clubs. Forget Europe for a minute.
What this is going to do is create superclubs in every continent, since only handful of same clubs will participate every year. Look at it like the parachute payment clubs in EFL.
Once these clubs start owning their leagues, essentially turning it into one club league, they will demand even more money, which will then result in a super league in future, except not just for Europe but the world.
It’s not they literally have their own competitions
@@sanku1999 Not gonna happen. its not a competition that will generate any real following. Hell, the club cup as it is isn't shown in most european countries
@@mrcuddlebuns1000 see the big picture buddy. Right now, most leagues in the world excluding Europe and MLS style franchises have 2-3 clubs dominating everything.
If one of them starts getting money, even the duopoly becomes monopoly. These clubs have nothing to play for except their continental competitions. You give them Club WC and the money they are promising, these clubs will become ever more and more dominant.
They will demand more money. Hence - they will start demanding more pay, resulting in a official super league, sponsored by FIFA.
@RetroProg what are you smoking?
Have you seen a big club do a pre season tour? Literally generates millions. These matches will appeal to each and every foreign fan.
every four years takes away the possibility of replacing the ucl.if it was annualy it would be a problem but every 4yrs isnt bad
4 years.... For now... 😅
Wait till they start expanding the number of teams
Every 2 yrs... Everyone wins😂
Click bait maybe ? 🤔
It can't cause the women's World Cup is those same months so they don't want them to collide.
My problem is you could have a team like Seattle qualify by winning CCL in 2022 last year and by the time the 2025 club world cup comes around they'll have a very different squad.
Incentive for teams to stay together maybe?
I thought of these too, but I consider it a non issue. Football in our era is purely transfer driven.
My own issues with the competition is it has the possibility of clashing with national team competition & representation and offers the players little time to rest & recover.
On one side, I really love the competition not because of it can crown a world champion but because it offers more content for me as a fan cos summers are really boring in the years where there're no national team competition.
As a human I want the players to rest, as a fan lol I wish they don't and the issues above sadly aren't my headache and yours too.
I mean you can have a team qualify for the champions League, and have a complete different team the next tournament.
The problem with MLS is a lot of teams will collapse after winning in a season but designe
@@aladdin3241 that's exactly what I was thinking
@@aladdin3241by design because of the salary cap, its hard to retain “stars” and “future stars” , which is why they always go to europe. MLS is being held back by the salary cap but also i understand as some of the smaller city clubs like Nashville and lets say San Jose and Montreal would get ate up by cities like New York, LA, Miami , Chicago , Houston, New England/Boston
The four year gap can be quite a long time in club football. World cup qualifiers tend to take place over two years which guarantees in form teams but this club version risks having teams grotesquely out of form. But it's a great idea
Some clubs may change their entire squad and managing staff in the span of 4 years.
@@sayantanmazumdar3 I've seen Chelsea win the champions league and fourish years later be around 10th in the premier league.
@@eamonreidy9534 Exactly.
Gamba Osaka won the AFC Champmions League in 2008, and relegated from Japanese top tier in 2012
Every 4 years makes it bigger and more special. The down side is that team rosters change quite a bit even from year to year and the team that qualified most likely will not be the team that plays in the world cup. I'm happy to see this new experiment come to pass.
Lies again? Acura Mecca World Cup
The new Club World Cup format should be a straight knockout tournament. A group stage would be too many games.
@@wingedhussar1453they would also win with a group stage
I said this, Like an FA cup for the world. It needs to be brutal, knock out. One leg. No seeded teams. A few wild card teams.
Honestly not the worst idea. The four year format would mean it's not a burden on players every summer. Main thing I find so funny is why FIFA are now suddenly keen on the 32 team format but getting rid of it for the World Cup 😅
i rather have 16 teams on Club World Cup with 1 year more that 32 teams on Club World Cup with 4 Years
but at least there will be Europa League Style Club World Cup
@@hugoumero9723 You're not considering the calendar at all
I thought the same. Probably it's not the same project group working on it or they think they gain some good will by keeping it
What?! They have a World Cup and euros as well 😂😂 so one summer off every four years yeah?
@@gabrielalohan728 It's every 4 years..
All the criticism of CWC is basically europeans not wanting anyone else to get a chance to compete with Europe. The new version of CWC is great and it would be even better if they can make it every 1 or 2 years.
Buddy 12 teams qualify from Europe
They know it’s would be to easy for them
I'm actually hyped for this, probably the only voices against this come from Europe.
I like it too, sounds interesting and its only every 4 years
I’m from Europe and tbh I’m hyped for it too.
i wonder why...almost as if they have a tournament that is much more prestigious and entertaining...also european teams are going to win this every single time
@@user-pj2so3qv4l Prestige doesn't necessarily mean more entertaining. I find a lot of the top leagues in Europe kind of boring. Yes, they have the top talent but they are extremely predictable. I usually skip the Champions League for example because I don't feel the stakes. I just don't. Unless we're talking about the teams fighting to avoid relegation, those are the only really entertaining matches. While, lets say the MLS, where the talent is inarguably much, much worse, it's a more exciting league to me. It's not predictable. Teams are a little more equal. And it holds my interest. With a very fat prize pot and world wide exposure, I think the competition would be a lot more intense than you think. One great thing about football, outside of the top leagues, is that anything can realistically happen.
@@user-pj2so3qv4lYeah that’s my issue with it too.
The World Cup already is restricted enough with only 8 countries being able to win over 100 years and only European and South American countries having a chance at winning. But with a Club World Cup ONLY European nations will win and with European Clubs already having half of the slots what’s the point.
I mean the Champions League already is becoming restricted with now only clubs from the top 5 leagues seemingly being able to win and adding all these weaker clubs from other continents will just make it even worse.
Playing this tournament on a bi-annual basis would make sense to more accurately reflect the constantly changing reality of club football but I’m afraid it would only motivate FIFA to make the nations World Cup bi-annually as well.
If they could make the club WC bi-annually and the countries one every 4 years as usual, then it would be perfect!!
That would mean that players won’t have any summers free in the 4 year cycle, it’ll overwork them more than now, where they have 2 summers free.
Ive always been in favor for a bigger club world cup, I just think it would be a nice variation to see new teams play 😊
As well-intentioned this may be for global club football, it's almost definitely just going to become a second Champions League every four years with a sprinkle of some South American teams and the odd upset making it to the latter stages of the tournament
It feels like it will be more like the FA Cup, there'll be a huge variety in the level of the clubs, and though everyone will love to see some plucky underdog beating someone they weren't expected to and everyone calling it a giantkilling, they'll still get Man City in the next round and get crushed. Then we'll end up with mostly European clubs in the quarters and probably all European clubs in the semis. I mean Europe and South America already completely dominate the world cup, and that is before nicking all the best players from the other confederations.
I'm not sure if clubs from the weaker confederations being served up to get hammered by billion pound squads from Europe is really a good way of promoting the game in other continents, but maybe that's not the point and it's just the best option for FIFA making more money.
será bem mais legal que a champions league, o mundo não gira só em torno da europa, esse será o maior cameponato de clubes para os outros países
I think a club world cup every 2nd year would be really fun. One year, every continent have their CL football, and the year after that, a club world cup. Imo would be extremely fun to watch and also would be great for every club around the world.
Nope imo. 4 years is better for me. But in every 2nd year they can arrange a continental club cup with exactly the same format as current 7 team club WC format.
@@n-zedorai6613 I would be open for that as well.
Great for every club in the world? You mean great for the top 0.1% clubs in the world who will take that money to even further dominate their domestic league? This tournament will not be about glory, it'll be about getting that prize money and expanding your business.
Football giants are like mega-corporations, they wipe out all their competition, not because they have a better product, but because they're an unstoppable machine with the power to do anything they want.
Club football, especially the top tiers, is ruined enough by greed already; the revamped Club World Cup - as it's planned right now - will just make it even worse
It wouldn’t be good for any club
Teams want a chance of winning tournaments not getting knocked out by Man City or Real Madrid instead they’d much rather play in their own continents version of the champions league where they have a chance and actually go against similar rated teams.
Not sure why anyone would want European giants to destroy smaller teams and just infest every continent with this problem. There’s not a single benefit to this club World Cup which was never designed to replace champions leagues or the copa libertadores
@@Alphoric Then why do you watch FIFIA world cup? We can see spain humiliating noob teams like costa rica 7-0.
I think making it every four years is a good idea and to be honest I’ve always been of the opinion that the title of being World Champions should have a heavier weight to it than it currently does in Europe.
Agreed
Well why woud anyone in Europe care.
The champions league has all theb est teams in the world and if you win that then you are the best in the world.
Look at the curent club world cup, all but 4 wins are from european teams, the 4 wins coming from Brazil and they wherent in resent years.
European clubs are dominating that competition too and they arent even taking it that seiously.
No mather how we look at it who ever wins the Champions league is the best team in the world and whit the talent and money that Europe has it will remain the case for the future.
@@fromjos Saudi teams get old players and few of them on top.
That wont change anything, they will probably stop get players afther 2030.
South american teams can get maybe a mach here or there but as we have seen recently they arent very competitive.
@@fromjos I dont think having a foreign owner is a bad thing.
Problem is if they actually whant to invest in the club and whant to win.
A World salary cap woud be really great, but it will be hard to implement.
And if there is a salary cap then teams like PSG and Man City wont be a problem. In the curent system teams like PSG and Man City are great since they have the money to compete whit the other clubs.
@@stefankatsarov5806the Club World Cup will include 4 of the champions league winners and the highest ranked UEFA teams, it’ll basically be the top of the top in Europe and the best teams outside of Europe. Just a more prestigious idea.
This club world cup will be amazing. Since i was a kid I’ve been saying this should be a thing.
Sure the number of games would increase and so would the burnout. But with the increase in burnout will come more opportunities for all squad players. Probable 2nd/3rd choice players would be able to rack up 15-20 appearances per season. Wouldn't be the worst thing imo.
So are we saying that players of successful clubs just don't get breaks/pre seasons anymore then? Season starts in August, play through until May, this tournament starts in June, even if it's done within a month (which normally a 32 team world cup does take a full month) means that players will be off in July, when pre season is going and need to be back at their clubs ready for August again.
I know it's not every year so shouldn't be that big of a deal, but then you also have the World Cup and Euros in two of the 3 years that the Club World Cup isn't active, so players get one summer off every 4 years if they play for a big team? Sounds... Interesting.
No sommer off, there is also nations league and confederation league and whatever, unless they plan to get rid of those which i dont think.
Yeah, I feel bad for the players
@@mbbsboi7248 I dont, they can quit whenever they want and do another job.
@@mbbsboi7248 you shouldn't, they all millionaires
Perfectly packaging, perfect delivery. Clearly did your research. Great video 👌
I'm not sure what to make of this new competition. I love the idea of the Club World Cup, of bringing clubs from every part of the world, and am a big supporter of the current version, even attending a game this past edition in Morocco. But my biggest hesitation with this new version is that, in my opinion, club football should contain competitions that are played every year, not every four years. However, I will wait and see how this plays out as there is some good potential here, and it would be great to see club football get big outside of Europe too.
If it's played every year, detractors will have even more things to say. "Too many games" blah blah blah.
@@JohnDoe-qn7ed ?? it's already being played every year
@@BhlackBishop The new 32 team format
The old format will continue as an intercontinental cup
@@alligatoridaecrocodylia9975 That's great. Now get rid of the 32-team one.
My concern will be the quality of football. We seen how injuries are taking a huge toll and this will just add to it. And if any of the smaller leagues lose any of their first team players they won't represent very well. All for the format but someone is going to lose. Only so much butter and jam for our toast. Great video
Yeah
Kashima antlers were competitive in the club world cup a while back, they went toe to toe with real madrid. I don't think it will be too much of an issue.
@@baraobam8416 if antlers get enough money to spend they’ll have better teams too
My only gripe with this is that we pretend like the biggest teams don't already have massive squads.
The solution to potential player burnout is to simply trust more of your players. Instead of giving the most minutes to the same 16-18 players, spread the minutes more evenly to more of your fringe players. Salah, Bruno Fernandes & KDB don't need to be playing every League & FA Cup game. The biggest clubs in the world have some of the best academies with talented players. Use those players, and lighten the load on superstars.
How will FIFA react if Barca Bayern & Liverpool all send their u23 squads? The competition is dead in the water and FIFA don't make their TV revenues. Remember FIFA announced this bollocks without consulting the clubs.
To be honest they need to play youth players or players who are in the fringe because this shouldn't be worth player burntout
@@RetroProg If the prize money is the same as in CL then nobody will want to send u23, the clubs will have to have two of the TEAM A and another Team B...which means clubs will have to increase their team size to at least 33 players which means more salaries, more trainers, more physiotherapists, more of everything...
Bayern Munich has 27 players atm.
@@wokeaf1337 Yep, another term for Team B is.... The under 23s. and thats who'll play this hollow tournament that FIFA have been flogging for the last 50 years.
And where is this prize money going to magically come from?? CL is shown in every country in europe and many many more outside. NOBODY shows the club world cup and there will be little appetite for it in Europe, which is where the money is. FIFA couldn't run a piss up in a brewery and is institutionally corrupt with the new crook at the top no different than the last one. And, in the end, thats all this is, FIFA wanting more money as all the big bucks are with UEFA.
It doesn't always work like that bro.... U cant just field in a less inferior team especially in cup games when these mid table teams are fielding in there best. I remember one time when Liverpool fielded in their b team against Aston villa because the had a world club cup match. Aston villa fielded their best team and smashed Liverpool ! Only in a perfect world will this Ur theory work
I really like this idea. I don't love FIFA exerting more control over the game than it already has, but I am very interested in club football gaining bigger global exposure. I'll never stop supporting my favorite European club, but clubs from around the world getting more exposure is a great thing. I'd love to watch my dad's hometown club Nagoya Grampus getting to play a match against our local NYCFC for example.
Absolutely. Funny thing about the critics of this idea, a lot of them are Messi and Ronaldo fans who'd go nuts on social media if Inter Miami played Al-Nassr in a Club World Cup final!
@@JohnDoe-qn7edif al nassr played inter Miami in club wc final it will break every record of viewership football has ever seen
I really like the proposed format, makes it easier to take the club world cup seriously. As mentioned by others in comments, it can’t really replace the UCL, since the UCL takes place yearly.
As for players not getting that much rest, i guess it just pushes teams to have a deep squad, not the same starting 11 each matchday
I think it’s interesting, certainly more so than the current format. I do wonder tho wether it will turn into just a second Champions League in that year, the competitiveness of the other confederations is very important.
Next to the 48 team world cup and the two year cycle for international tournaments that is the only big idea by Infantino that I am moderately exited about. Btw had he got his wish with the two year cycle, where was the club world cup supposed to fit in the calendar? lol
Making this once every 4 years like the world cup was the right decision.
The problem is outside of Europe there is a massive drop off in quality. You see this when the current tournament plays out. I think FIFA are just after cash and European clubs should refuse to take part. Why play in a competition that will feel like a pre season tour
100% FIFA are just after cash. They are a totally corrupt organisation.
Vasco da Gama >>>>>> Manchester City
I love how he says "...football is not just about Europe..." and then allocates OFC 1 club (understandable), AFC and CAF 4 clubs, CONCACAF 5 clubs (4 + 1 for host), CONMEBOL 6 clubs, then gives UEFA an INSANE 12 clubs!!! I know they're popular but come on. It would have been more than fine to have 4 clubs from each. No one else will have a chance against that many clubs from UCL.
It’s more fun that way, there are less chances for a random team to land on an easy bracket and go all the way to the final just to get obliterated.
@@salahad-din3907 less chance anyone other than a UEFA club wins every single time is more like it.
If the new champions league format is a pseudo European Super League, FIFA's new Club World Cup is bringing in a World Super League.
I agree it's not great for European clubs with even more games to play, but a gentle reminder Europe isn't the be all and end all of football, there are other regions.
if case this format stays in 2027 this will ended up not very well and UEFA could have face been extination
"other regions" lol, there are other websites besides youtube for videos, do you use them? only people in certain countries do but YT is the only one that matters because of quality/amount of content. European Football is the only one that matters to for being the top, elite division.
@@Real_SkyRipper If we go by your logic, why would you watch the world cup if European football is the only one that matters?
Why watch anything but the Euros since "European Football is the only one that matters to for being the top, elite division."?
Why would fans bother to support Boca Juniors, Santos, Palmeiras, Seatle Sounders, Al Hilal, Urawa Reds, Al Ahly, Auckland City, Orlando Pirates, when they can just support Manchester City because "European Football is the only one that matters to for being the top, elite division."?
Football exists outside of Europe.
That's why the World Cup is so special!
I'm sorry to say this but your justification is a load of crap.
@shenko_ I’m not saying I agree with him but your analogy doesn’t make sense. You watch the World Cup because all of the best players from every country play in it, most of the countries don’t have strong leagues but some do well and have good players; for example Croatia or Brazil. However the majority of the Brazilian and Croatian national team players play outside their countries leagues and that’s why you would still watch the World Cup and every good player plays in it. Whereas you wouldn’t really bother to watch the Asian or Concacaf champions league rather than the European one because those competitions don’t contain the best players.
@@shenko_ who wins the world cups? people watch world cups because of european teams, remove them and have only asia vs africa and see how many will watch it lmao, also it's Nations so it's national pride, that's why so many watch it, even people not interested in football, you really gave a dumb example to try to prove me wrong, which you can't.
One thing I heavily dislike is the idea that 8 european and 2 south american spots will be filled up by teams who haven’t earned their spot by winning a tournament but by being consistently okish over 4 years. It’s just a safety net for the big name clubs who regularly reach the quarter finals just by having more money than others and it will increase the money gap. It’s also ludicrous that a random team of the host nation just gets a spot while 3 champions of the Oceanic „champions league“ can’t compete.
It should be 4 champions from all 6 continents (24 teams), then maybe the 4 losing finalists from the uefa and conmebol competitions to make it 32 teams, as those teams at least reached a final to deserve qualifying.
Having the host nation get a team is completely reasonable.
@@warrenzevon4994 it would be the same as giving one additional place in the Champions League to the nation that hosts the final. It would be ok if it weren’t on the expense of real champions from the (granted rather weak) ofc confederation.
@@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766 no it’s not like that at all. It’s a tournament held in one place over a few weeks. Just like the actual World Cup the host nation should be represented
@@chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766 Good points well made. 'Consistently okish' made me chuckle. Step forward Aston Villa and Tottenham Hotspur!))
The Club World Cup should be held every 2 years but only the two successive champions of their continental cups plus the champion and runner-up of the previous CWC should be in it.
The reason why the old format was a flop is because it was held annually, only had seven teams, had a lack of promotion and because the host country was also a part of it without being a continental champion, and it was usually hosted by UAE, Morocco, Qatar and Japan constantly. The host should be from one of the continental champions. It would have 14 teams altogether.
Good video can't wait for the new premiership season bring it on 🔥 🙌
I think it's a cool idea, but i really do feel bad for the players because they will have to play more high intensity games than usual, and they won't get much of a break.
All about money, they get paid more than anyone on the planet so 🤷🏻♂️
Bro acting like substitutes do not exist
@@12thMandaloriangetting paid doesn't mean you aren't human. Players get tired when they play that many games and the by product of that is injuries.
@@leeking6939 they should get another job then
What will likely happen is the clubs will have more subsitutes and then rotate players more frequently. Like we see when high profile clubs play teams from a lower league, they often let the subs get a chance to perform, and make sure their star players do not get injured in a low stakes game.
I used to like thee confederations cup, Australia usually qualified so it just meant more games for our national team,which didn't play enough games at the time. It's going to be a fairly crowded calendar,and I think many clubs are already financially stretched, not to mention physically.
This sounds very interesting! I hope it succeeds!
I'm loving this idea ❤ not just that clubs in other continents and nations can get some good attention and financial gain etc from this I'm all for itb
We dont need your money
seems cool in theory but what's stopping clubs just getting a good loan player in specifically for the tournament or a player moving to a team specifically cause its qualified in the future
As an African I would happily welcome this idea, provided it doesn't clash with other competitions and players manage to get enough rest then I am all for it. Also a little biased but I would rather watch Al Ahly or Sundowns vs Madrid or Chelsea than watch Italy vs Senegal in the confederations cup.
I’m a fan of the idea, but i’m not sure how exactly good the execution would be.
The winner, and hell, probably all of the QF’s would almost certainly be completely European every year. Not that thats not how it is every year, but making a massive competition out of it is another thing.
I also worry about player burnout. We’ve been seeing it more and more in recent times with how many more games have been played, and just adding another WC style tournament seems like it would definitely add to the injury crisis. They key to avoiding this would be to have bigger squads with more rotation players, which wouldn’t be an issue to to European clubs (except Liverpool), as they have money to spend, but smaller clubs from anywhere else wouldn’t have the money that have in Europe to compete.
I do think it could be great motivation for smaller leagues/teams, though. Hopefully that extra push for big competition could improve leagues in the rest of the world.
With that, I don’t think it will ever be able to be a perfectly fair competition, not by the fault of FIFA, just inherently. But, I would still love to see this competition play out, as I still think it’s a great thing for smaller clubs/leagues to be able to compete with bigger sides.
I personally like it, and feel it won't take away from champions league. The only negative is on the players, as the world cup would be the next year, so for a lot of player it will be a busy two years. If it was in 2024 that would be better. A team from Europe is still likely to win it, but I think it would be more interesting.
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I’m not against this. There might be the issue of there being too many games with the World Cup & UCL expanding as well. I’d be fine with them alternating too. 3 years of UCL and then a World Club Cup year. It won’t happen but it might be a good way to lighten the game load on players.
So much can change so quick in club football, with players coming and going, international football, different thing, makes no sense to host this every 4 years, i can see what fifa want but, be interesting to see how it pans out
I think compeptition that using coeficient to rule the slot is a bit unfair, it makes big teams more rich and small team not have a chanace and cant get the benefit at all
It would be interesting to see if Esteghlal or Persepolis wins the AFC Champions League. When they are about to leave the country, the US DHS blocks their Visas
I think they're more likely to no block the visas of teams such as Real Madrid and Boca Juniors, it'll give the likes of LA Galaxy and Inter Miami a chance of winning!
I really welcome the idea only issues I have is that 12/32 are European clubs and I think it's going to clash with most continental competitions.
These are not big issues tho or perhaps they won't become one.
It will not clash. Euros /fifas/ copa needs to be done in even years
The European sides will send their U23 teams so it won't make too much of a difference to them.
@@RetroProg doubt it especially if the award is in the hundreds of millions, every club will take the competition seriously
@@GNMbg And where is this magic money coming from???? The Champions League doesn't generate that sort of money with all the best teams on the planet in it. You really think TV rights in europe will be 1000% more than the CL????
@@RetroProg bro they literally said that in the video 😮
I wonder if players and clubs could handle this thick schedule? They could, if they abandon those less important tournaments.
The only problem I see is the calendars filling up more. I think, to combat this, the standard size of a league could be reduced from 20 to 18, or even 16. This would take 8 games off of a footballer's calendar, enough for the entire cwc tournament.
Yeah , great idea, 16 clubs per leagues max
Never gonna happen, especially in England, because the money in the Premier League is so huge in comparison with the Championship that the clubs from the lower half of the table won't ever agree to it. And besides, I think it's a little unfair that international organizations like FIFA or UEFA keep increasing the number of games in their competitions or even creating brand new ones like in this case and the solution is supposedly to limit domestic competitions.
Never gonna happen, especially in England, because the money in the Premier League is so huge in comparison with the Championship that the clubs from the lower half of the table won't ever agree to it. And besides, I think it's a little unfair that international organizations like FIFA or UEFA keep increasing the number of games in their competitions or even creating brand new ones like in this case and the solution is supposedly to limit domestic competitions.
@theultumateprezes6379 The whole agenda of ESL and Club World Cup are containing the Premier League dominance and giving power to other leagues. Lol. It's what it is.
The idea is to expose Man United Chelsea to Ajax AL Ahli Boca Juniors so premier league money is distributed to other league teams. Don't you see - this is pushed by RM Barca cause they are crying about EPL.
I'm all for it.... let's go Fifa 🔥
I don't care that much about the UCL, this will win me big time
Love ❤ the club World Cup design.
Very good ideas. Should be every 2 years not a big fan of four years.
Good idea and I firmly believe that the biggest club trophy should be the club world cup and and not something like UCLs. But honestly the whole point of this should be to grow local supports for clubs around the world and increase quality outside europe. With the propose set up, European teams will just dominate. They get 12 teams while the next region only gets 6? Like I get the logic behind it but the outcome would be no different than how it is now. You want clubs outside of europe to have a higher chance of winning. To do that means having less european clubs and more clubs from other regions. Ideally you want it to be as close to even as possible.
If you are a club that is not in Europe, I would agree with you but most clubs in Europe already consider the club world cup to be worthless and not worth putting in the effort to try and win it as the UCL has more money to be won and is more prestigious to win
@@samwade6935 Lol is that why they should get 12. I think the number of teams should be 16 with maybe half(7/8) from Europe and again it gives room to let the competition finish quickly. But lol I'm not complaining tho.
@@samwade6935a club tournament during summer break makes it worthless
It’s like preseason for us
So here's an idea....
what do you guys think about an *appearance limiter* rule being introduced into football
e.g players cannot exceed 40 apps a season etc. ?
in that way football will become more competitive don't you think?
and also... lesser players can get decent amounts of game time.. due to the fact that the stars will be limited to a fixed number of appearances..
what do you guys think?
Considering there's a gap of 4 years between editions, falling between each world cups, i'd say it doenst threat the UCL and it isnt even designed w this intent. Im hyped for it.
The club work cup is fine. It happens every 4 years. They will be fine.
Adding more games for players to get injured 😢. Greed must stop!
No way. Football is getting globalised. It's not only Europe's Forte . If anything scrap the 20 team league and make it 18. Shut down the useless cups like carabao.
@@vigneshjayakumar6252so the big clubs get bigger, and the smaller clubs have less trophies they can actually win! Great idea…
Oh my god, you people call any remotely good idea, greed.
@@GIBBO4182 football's always been like this. Very rarely have the small teams won tournaments. Even when they do it's due to excellent scouting or teamwork. This is just spreading the money and views to the globe.
@@vigneshjayakumar6252but a good cup run is great for smaller clubs, financially alone! No it’s not spreading the money. It’s giving teams already in the UCL ANOTHER tournament to make money from, how is that helping the other teams in their domestic leagues?
no this will never over. Take the Champions from the three main competitions (CL, Europa and Conf) seeing the same 12 teams from UEFA ranking year after year would get super boring
Right now, USA forced the Mexican league to play gringo teams in the USA ...CACA leagues cup
With no games in Mexico which is trash
The only problem with this new format is why use 4 year gap and why europe have 8 best eligible club in 4 years? The squad who won cl in 2021-2024 would be different in wcc 2025 due to transfers windows. The best eligible club in Europe is too much compare to other continent comenbol have 2,AFC 1,OFC 1,CAF 1 yet european club have 8 this will make European club even more dominating the wcc.
There is too many games is often an argument in Europe. Easiest way to reduce fixtures is to scrap euro qualification and just use nations league standings. League A teams qualify = 16 + 1 from League C and one from league D. 4 group winners in B plus 2 more from a repechage from teams that missed out in BC and D. Just make the cycle four yearly with a cut off date. Done saved 10 fixtures
Nations league ahh but this a club tournament tho
I agree
I remember a time up until just after the creation of the FIFA Club World Cup in 2000 where European teams and South American teams were practically tied when it came to World Championships. I think it was 22 titles vs 21 titles. The reality since then has been that the economics just will not allow South American teams to be successful outside of their own continent. European teams have won 16 titles to South America's 4 since then. South American teams simply cannot afford to keep their players as the European teams are so much more powerful economically. Players leave (and this isn't a criticism) South America because European teams are able to pay them so much more. One can see that if you break down the winning European teams since 2000 and analyze the nationalities of the players on the rosters. South American players (along with a lesser amount from other continents) were integrated into these teams whereas in the past you did not get such an expansive variety of nationalities representing club teams. I don't think FIFA would be able to rival UEFA. The best players have, do, and will continue to go ply their trade for UEFA teams. My apologies for the long winded post.
I think this would be a great idea
You forgot to mention that the current structure of Club World Cup with 7 teams will still remain the same and will be played annually as it is played now with only the continental champions and it will continue with a different name, meaning now there will be two Club World Cup tournaments, one played annually with just 7 teams and the other played every 4 years.
This better not be true that it’s still gonna be every year what
This could make the concacaf champions league a much bigger deal too. Since it’s the gateway to the World Cup. It would kind give every team something to fight towards. One of the things I love about soccer.
Idk if you know this, but concacaf winners been qualifying for the club world cup for years. It's just that the MLS teams have been dominated by the Mexican League that you never seen MLS team participate. Other than Seattle last year. Who immediately got eliminated
@@aladdin3241 that’s true but a more meaningful club World Cup would help too.
@@natewagstaff2516 European teams don't care. Because they already make more money in Europe due to Monopoly. South American, Asian, and African teams do care. Mexican teams also do care. MLS teams don't care because they just have not had a realistic chance of making it so they became numb to it. Also the sport it's not that popular in the United States, an MLS fans are not that compared to the rest of the world.
@@aladdin3241 yea I know I just feel like a better club World Cup and the increased interest in soccer in the US will only help in my opinion. Plus it’ll be in the US.
A clup wc like that would be a great idea in my opinion, unless the great health risks involved in it for the players. They already play way to much games and more games wont make it any better…
Hopefully this will bring in even more fans
yeah, football isn't that popular, hardly anyone knows about it 🤣
@@rjaymurphy Facts bro and I’m American
sometimes I wish i could talk about soccer with my friends but all they watch is NBA and NFL
@@rjaymurphy I know, only 1.5 Billion watched the last Liverpool Man Utd game. How will they survive.......
@@rjaymurphy Football is the most popular sport in the world 🤣
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This is going to increase the number of superclubs outside EU. A small number of clubs from different confederations will participate, and they will get much richer than their peers which allow them to spend more on the team. Local tournaments do not pay anywhere close to EU tournaments. One Gulf Country pays the winner of their league around 90K USD, which is nowhere near what the nearest countries pay.
It’s not a bad idea I guess just the qualification definitely needs looked at
This will be insane in terms of teams outside of Europe qualifying for a competition 4 years away. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Fluminense are fighting relegation or already in Serie B by 2025.
There's no consensus for how long a team can stay big, aside from current day Flamengo and Palmeiras no club is safe. The footballing landscape changes so often here that I wouldn't be surprised seeing truly awful teams competing at this new CWC.
In Brazil it's not uncommon for a team to win the league then get relegated within 3 years. Clubs here are so unstable that after a good season they will lose half their players to Europe, struggle with finances and poor decision making and soon enough the team will be awful.
Look at Cruzeiro, after 2014. Corinthians after 2005 and 2017. Flamengo after 2009. etc
There should also be promotion from Conference and Europa leagues. Lets make it competitive.
Sounds amazing in theory...send it on!!!
I am definitely ok with expanding to include all. BUT this is just about money and power NOT the health or the good of the game.
They have watered down the Euro Champions Cup where only those who won their leagues would compete.
IF they were smart they would reinstate that competition and have groups in their regions and whomever wins out of them go to a knock out round.
I don't get though how this fits in with internationals, club competitions, leagues. It makes no sense. They all need to get together to sort out what is BEST for football not their pockets.
if it really helps teams from beyond europe financially, then yes
My opinion is that it should be held every 2 years. I feel that if a team won the ucl in the first year then by the time it gets to the cwc then they’re not the same team that won the ucl, potentially not being as strong and being at a disadvantage.
What a way to ignore the CONCACAF throughout your video. Btw, León were the 2023 champions which you did not include in your video
As a brasilian i think brasilian clubs are the unoque that have chance to atleast reach quarter finals a team can change alot in 4 years and european clubs are very strong
I think its great idea to expand club football make other clubs then european shine
This is fine. ECL is annual and this will be like the WC and will be taken seriously.
I simulated the CWC in FIFA 23. No team outside of europe got out of the RO16. All 12 european teams escaped the group. All the CWC is going to do is give more money to big european teams & make tournaments less and less even for smaller clubs.
That's a simulation.
Well if fifa 23 says so then why bother
That's by design. Expansion's true purpose wasn't to help Asia and Africa but to see that European and Sudamerican giants qualify and don't accidentally miss out like Italy did last time.
That’s fifa ya creep 😂 you didn’t even have the decency to do your test of football manager lol you did it on fifa
@@sanku1999speak for Europe only. Argentina and Brazil always qualify and we don’t need some stupid club World Cup to do so. Italy has been a subpar nation for a decade.
8:44 Why did you measure the profits of FIFA and compare them to the revenue of EUFA when they are measuring two different quantities?
Inter Miami vs Al Nasir at the club cup would be spicy
In a word NO. Its every 4 years for starters and European teams have never taken it that seriously. It would only be about getting more money
This is very unfair to great non-european teams. Think of 2019 Flamengo, or 2012 Corinthians. Some of these teams are legendary, but under this 4-year system, these squads would have been disbanded long before they ever have a chance to face the Europeans.
Absolutely ruining South American's most desirable competition in favour of profits.
why did u guys use the F2 footage 🤣
Nothing beats the Champions League
except the world cup
The new format of UCL is going to backfire spectacularly, opening the way for the new club world cup to take it's place because of the Saudi teams.
I would only support this if there are FFP requirements for clubs to enter. At the moment, it wouldn't really be fair or entertaining to see some Saudi team like Al Hilal getting a budget higher than the US military and just steam rolling the competition every 4 years.
At the moment, as the UCL and the respective National Leagues are still the peak of world club football, players still have plenty of incentive to play for a European Club. However, should this Club World Cup take off (especially if it overtakes the UCL) without FFP, it would just give Saudi less obstacles to just completly ruining football. As the AFC and Saudi Pro League don't have nearly as much (if any) financial oversight.
why is it only ruining football when saudi arabia does it? Do you NOT realize that european clubs have already done this to south american football? Europe steamrolls into our continent buying all our best players and make millions of dollars with our players with highly questionable money sources (Chelsea, PSG, Man City....).
But as you said, you seem to think UCL and National Leagues are at its peak now, but that is only because of the money advantage european football has over the world. But you don´t see a problem with that, football is only ruined when the middle east does to europe what europe has been doing to everyone else since the 90's.
This will be a great worldcup
In theory, I’ve nothing against it itself… but the schedule is already stacked as is, and the new format for champions league provide even more games. Players don’t even have legs in the beginning of the season. Injuries are more frequent. You may get the opposite of what you want. Loss of overall quality across the line.
I think it will be a great competition, a World Cup with much better quality of football, but I think the Nations WC will still have more shocks on it; there's a very strong possibility of seeing the quarter-final for the 1st edition has 7/8 European clubs, maybe 8/8 too!!
As a spectacle? Maybe. As the defining football tournamet? Who knows, I dont think so. Every 4 years is too much for a club competition, itll be a spectacle and a big event but not the "main football" tournament.
Its best chance is being biannual while turning other continental cups biannual as well. But that wont go down well with people I don't think.
I agree this ain’t international football
Actually a good idea for once
Matches between the best club sides from different continents have been around since the 1960s. From a European perspective they have never had any prestige attached to them. Throwing money at the new format won't change that. All it will be is another revenue source for the biggest and richest clubs in Europe.
The Club World Cup will only pvertake UCL or World Cup if ALL leagues have similar sanctions and regulations. Teams also need to include regular starters/bench players. UEFA could hurt the CWC if they decide to send youth/reserve players.
European clubs will treat this as preseason I’m sure and I would too if I were them
I don't see the Champions League going quietly off into the night.
I am not against this in theory but it does seem like 'if you build it they will come' idea rather than a guarantee of success. If the money is there the big clubs will go but I do not think the level of competition will be very good. The European clubs will crush everyone because they have the best talent. I can't see fans getting very excited seeing one of the European teams playing a team from Africa or South Korea for example. I am not saying the fans from those other regions are not important but Europe is the nexus of world football. The one thing that could upset them is whether or not the top clubs send their best players. Pro athletes need an off-season and the European regular season is still more important because it qualifies you for the European club competitions. To me, this seems like another front in the struggle between FIFA and UEFA about more control over world football rather than the best interest of the game.
The 1992/93 to 1994/95 the Premier league had 22 clubs, 1995/96 it went to 20, i wonder if top flights in Europe will decrease in size.
the more diverse football is, the more exciting it will be.