Triumph Speed Twin - In depth owners review
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- Triumph Speed Twin - In depth owners review: I've had my trusty triumph Speed twin for around 6 months now having ridden it for many hundreds of miles and in all weathers summer and winter. Here's my review of the bike 6 months in including not only what it's like to ride in all sorts of scenarios and conditions but the cost of ownership so far and the lessons I've learned....stick around and stay tuned if you're interested in the new Speed twin, this video is for you!
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The only problem I see with that bike is it's not parked in my garage.
Had problems with the gearbox on them
Thanks for the videos on the Speed Twin. It certainly seems to be a great bike. Do you think that adding a fly screen would substantially reduce the wind on one’s torso (I’m about the same size as you)?
Nice vid. One trick I learned over the years when walking or "lugging" the bike. Always stand on the right hand side, with your hand covering the front brake. It's easier because you don't have to awkwardly avoid the stand... and if it falls over to the left the stand will stop it. If it falls towards you, hopefully, you can stop it. Try it!
I will try that!
Interesting. I will also try that.
Thank you for another great review TMF. Bike looks brilliant - enjoy!
You’ve been busy! Another great review and great looking bike. It really looks custom silver-black and the details, so good work Triumph! I’m not a fan of bar-end mirrors in traffic but they do look great here. Thanks mate! 👌🏼
It's not my kind of bike, yet you make the review interesting and entertaining. Thanks Andy!
Very helpful video even a year later. Helped me decide that I truly want a speed twin for my next bike. Thanks for the help!
My pleasure!
So glad you talked about the front brakes and the squeaking (once in awhile). Thought I was going mad. I agree that it is on the annoying side of things. Other than that, I love my Speed Twin and appreciate the reviews. Riding season here starts for me next week. Cheers from Canada!
Point for point, that is a unique old school bike. Your review does bring out a lot of features you probably wouldn’t notice at first glance. As a recently self diagnosed fan-boy of all things Triumph, I do now study these bikes a lot more closely. Thanks again TMF 👍🏼
I been saving up for this bike in particular and this review just doubled my resolve. I absolutely love the looks and it sounds like it lives up to its appearance and then some.
Yes, I love mine...
I've been really looking forward to this as it's on the short list for next bike. Reviews of a new bike are all well and good but after 6 months the opinions are much more relevant. Crackin' vid as ever :-)
Thank you Dave - I reckon one of these puppies would suit you down to the ground, old school styling but a thoroughly modern ride!! Thanks for watching as ever - Andy.
Thanks! I recently purchased a 2020 Speed Twin 1200 here in Pensacola, Florida, and I've put about 600 miles on it in about 5 weeks. Your video was very helpful and fun to watch.
Glad to hear that!
Top review as always TMF, undoubtedly the most thorough on the Tube 👍
Thank you Chris - I try to be with these in depth reviews....
Your videos are the best part of my breakfast! Thanks Mr Flyer!
Thank you as ever Rutger.....sorry this one was an hour late!
@@TheMissendenFlyer That was pretty perfect because I live in a timezone that's an hour later ;)
I find myself staring at your garage organization and cleaning methods more than the bike review. Awesome! And you've made me long for the simplicity of a performance Bonneville in a way Triumph's marketing never managed. Well done.
Wow - thank you John...
Such a beauty! Glad your enjoying it. If I didn’t have the Tiger I’d have one for sure 👍🏻
Have to say I think your one of the best at this reviewing malarkey. Have especially enjoyed this review as I’m seriously considering changing to the speed twin ..well done on another great review.
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you. I found that very helpful for making up my mind about whether I will consider a Street Twin for next year. My dealer did regard them as a higher spec than the T120. I tried one for a few hours earlier in the year (it was raining then too). The relative lightness of the thing appealed. If you add a centre stand and other parts though, then that lightness soon diminishes. Also as you say it’s not really for two up and comfort at my age is great. I guess you have your GS1200 for two up riding. Anyway for me my current Bonneville T120 rules as being better looking and a better all rounder Triumph. Although I did grab myself a pre loved 2019 Honda CB500X for local lanes and all year round riding. BTW, those CB500X are worth a review INMHO. Thanks for an excellent, honest, review... Regards, Pete
Beautiful bike, I realy love this model. Great review TMF
Hi Andy, new subscriber here. This video convinced me royally to get this bike last May. Did about 1600 miles on it up till November when it got tucked away in the garage till about march (lockdown permitted of course) no complaints at all about it. Fitted the xpipe and the throttle spacer too which really turns it into another bike totally. Any bike I get now will be a second bike. Speed Twin is a keeper! Cheers Andy
Welcome aboard!
I Brought a Triumph street twin from Triumph North London, the first bike they sold,
nice dealership and very happy
with the bike then I had a test
ride on the Speed Twin on there
open day, it's a bit taller then the street so being short in the
leg I'm not able to flat foot as
on the street, but yes a lovely bike like the Street Twin but
better, and the heat that you mention radiating from the engine is the same on mine,
I guess it's just the nature of
the beast.
I’ve had the bike for almost 8 months and just hit the 1000 mile mark. I’ve never had a brake squeal or any throttle snatchiness at low speed. I’ve kept the bike in “street” mode the entire time. I agree with the heat on the left side, it seems like that is where the heat is blown when the cooling fan comes on. But it isn’t uncomfortable at all if your wearing riding pants. The Daytime Running light issue in non existent in the US because it doesn’t even come on. If the bike is running the low beam is on. It seems the only way to get the DRL to come on is when the bike is off and in “P” (park mode) mode with the steering locked. This has been my experience, but I completely understand if your experience has been different and appreciate your great videos.
Great review. Getting a Speed Twin in the spring.
Your review has whetted my appetite for another Triumph to accompany my R1250RT!
@@TK-cl1jm Great bike, I've had the RT for over a year! It's recently been accompanied by a Moto Guzzi V7ii which felt more authentic bike than the Triumph in the end.
She's a real beauty Andy, would love a Speed Twin in the future, I know your not a fan of the cafe racer styling but may settle for an older Thruxton 1200 due to budget as I chop and change bikes quite frequently. Once again thanks for a great review.
Fantastic review brilliant you have covered everything there that's so good many thanks I am getting the 2024 stealth version I just can not wait to get my hands on it gougous bike
Great review and you drove by my house :) Am cygnet to choose right now between one of these and an Indian FTR.
Great video pick mine up in two weeks same colour loads of great tips thanks 👍
Congratulation Richard - you're going to love it!! ...exciting times waiting for a new bike eh? Like Christmas!! Oh hang on a minute.......
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the reply also bought a triumph speed triple rs this year but had a go on a speed twin and loved it so having both👍
I passed my motorcycle license 2 months ago. Early next year I will drive to the dealer and then buy the triumph. A beautiful bike. Thanks for the video & greetings from Germany.
Congratulations and good choice!
Did you get one?
Great video as usual Andy
I own one of these with 5k miles done so far. I have a pair of SW Motec blaze panniers which I also use on my Thruxton r good for a weeks touring as proven in The Pyrenees last year and a tour round Scotland this year, light easy on and off the bike, good system! And totally waterproof.
One thing you didn’t mention, adjusting the preload on the rear dampers ? Just give it a try 😖
Thanks again keep posting
Thanks for showing under the seat,great addition to your reviews
Cheers Dario4564 - was it you that requested it?? Someone did...good idea!
No,I always wanted you to do it doe.Always good to know for practicality aspect.Never though of asking in comments, Brilliant addition to reviews 👍👍
A little extra tip when it comes to the seat. It has two integrated tabs on the back of the seat pan for fastening luggage!
Yeah I'm def getting one of these; super good looking, good power (I have an R6 and to be honest it's fast enough to just get me into serious trouble, so will be updating that to track use only), and inexpensive. I'm a shorter rider too, so this should be perfect. It's also unique - a cafe racer that's comfortable, reliable, and works well, that isn't 35k? Triumph has been killing it lately, I love most bikes in their lineup - Street Triple I'd love to own as well.
I love the looks of this bike and your RE , both great looking bikes.
I have to agree of course!
This bike is so beautiful, the colour is really lovely too. I hope one day to own a Triumph myself.
Excellent video sir, thoroughly enjoyed this one.
Luke 👍🏻👍🏻
Many thanks!
Now this is a proper motorcycle. In the dictionary under motorcycle should be a picture of this and that’s all. No description necessary. Will be my next purchase in a few months.
Thanks so much for doing a in-depth real world of the bike. I was thinking of one and this helps out a lot! P.S. is that a CRF250L, I have one too. Great minds think alike
Nicely done boss! Love your work.
Very good, just spoke to the dealer, 2 week wait
Very tempting
Thanks again
Wow that's pretty quick!
Just a note on the fuel gauge taking a long time to read when refilled from empty.
You are right indeed; it is a "capacitor" in the fuel gauge circuit (or more accurately a resistor and capacitor). They're there to dampen the voltage change and consequent gauge reading. Without it, the varying level changes during acceleration, braking, cornering etc, would be faithfully reproduced by the gauge and make it impossible to read - so this is where this comes in.
All vehicles have it, but it would seem that the component choice made by Triumph maybe a little on the generous size?
Of interest maybe. For a short time, BMW (Motorrad) dispensed with the usual float metering device in favour of a flexible pcb design. This incorporated both a heater strip and a temperature-sensitive sensor. They both ran down the full length of the pcb which sat inside the fuel tank and effectively "dipped" the level. This method was extremely accurate, had better resolution and was self damped by nature. Sadly it was also rather unreliable and easily damaged by over-enthusiastic insertion (Ooer- missus!) of the petrol nozzle. Many were replaced under warranty I believe but could not be retro-fitted by a more conventional float meter as the wiring loom (and canbus) were incompatible.
BMW only fitted the ill-fated system for a couple of model-years.
I think the logic behind DRL position on the switch and the green indicator light for it on the dash, is that it sets DRL as a secondary light source, in the same way full beam is a secondary light source (dipped beam being primary). So it shows nothing when it's on dipped beam (primary), shows green when it's on DRL and blue when it's on full beam. At least that's the only way it makes sense, though I do agree with you - it should be the other way around simply because we're used to it that way.
Gotta love the burble from that exhaust 👍
And they think they're going to selling a lot of electric bikes soon! Ha!! Half the reason I ride is to listen to the symphony from my Speed Triple!
Reminds me of the joke:
You know what a flashlight is? A: A fancy container for dead batteries!
This is a fabulous video. Thank you very much. Two thumbs up, mate!
Thank you very much!
"I'm used to riding naked bodie..err..bikes" smooth one Andy ;) 16:59
🤣🤣🤣
Styling is well balanced which makes me love it........Sal : )
Interestingly your observations are pretty much the same as mine. I went with the British Customs exhaust instead of the Vance and Hines. It’s a little louder than yours but it sings out here in Texas. No other mods but that tail tidy is on the list. The silver and black paint scheme is perfect for this machine. My choice also. A very easy bike to ride. I may upgrade the suspension after the warranty expires. I get that harmonic dissonance from the front brake set also. The heat is not that bad in summer but it is noticeable. Very welcome this winter. Good luck and happy trails.
Glad we concur John!
Brilliant review, cheers for being so exhaustive. Contemplating picking this or the new Thruxton RS up, but I'm leaning Speed Twin if only because there's comparable performance with a far lower price tag.
My God that Thruxton is sooooo beautiful! But then the Speed is too and quite a bit cheaper. Decisions, decisions.......
@@fido0825 They aren't really comparable - the seating position on the Thruxton is quite aggressive - the relatively low clip-ons and long reach to them stretch you out, unless you have a long torso and arms, which means longer riding or stop-and-go traffic is harder on the Thruxton. I'd say the Thruxton is better looking, but it's less 'useable'.
@@danieloconnell4225 Yes, I sat on one at my dealer in Ozark...but no more extreme than my ZX10 it is still a whole different position than the Speed Twin for sure.
Great video and very helpful, thank you
You're welcome!
Well done, as always!
Love your Flash Gordon reference, that where it comes from !
I’ve been watching reviews about the speed twin and yours is the most informative I’m hoping to get one and trade my Ducati 748 in a bike which I will be very sad to see go but it’s time for something a bit more comfortable thanks for a brilliant video on the triumph speed twin I think my mind is definitely made up now .
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve said it before but, that bike is gorgeous in that colour. 👍🏻
Speed Twin sounds lovely. Looks great too... 👌
Many thanks Andy’ seriously thinking of buying one for new season 🤪
Good plan!
"People ask me what's the horn like on the bike?" marginally uncomfortable I would suspect.
...easy....
"apparently its better on the royal enfield" what ever turns you on!
loooool :-)
Beautiful bike, excellent review 👍
Good review 👍 Tmf I really like the looks of this and your other one as well just the 🚀 3 next haha thanks from Danny
Yes looking forward to that puppy...suspect it may be a few months yet before I get a go though....
Great update on the bike Andy and I definitely agree with the last comment 👍😊
Glad we concur!
Completely agree with you regarding the day running lights.
Glad we agree!
Would be great to see a tour on this bike!!!
Ace vid as ever.
Triumph undoubtedly does retro better than everyone else. I reckon the Speed Twin is so lovely even my mum would be happy to see me on one. (As a relatively new member of the fraternity I’m discovering that mums generally don’t like their sons on motorbikes 🙄)
very true....
great review, thanks a lot and best regards from vienna.
Thanks for watching and regards back to wonderful Wien!
the quirk with the headlight is most likely for sales in the US we require that motorcycles have the headlight on at all times
I was between this Bike and the Tracer 900 GT. Similar price, similar power specs, both had comfortable riding positions. I absolutely loved the Speed Twin for the looks, the charm, and riding height (I'm 5' 8" as well). I didn't have a tourer already in the garage though (like say a GS), and I thought the old lady might be more comfortable riding on the back of the Tracer. So I went with the Tracer (which Is a great bike for everything btw). So I guess I'll watch your vids, and forever wonder what might have been. More vids riding the Speed Twin please, definitely my favorite in your collection!
Lots more to come (when the weather warms up a bit!)....thanks for watching - TMF
bike looks great compact and beefy thx
I have test ridden that bike (same color too) and it is a dream.
Glad you liked it Scott...
Once again entertaining and informative...dare I ask where’s Bruce this weather ?.
As always, best bike reviewer on the internet. No question.
Very kind of you to say so - thank you!
Good job brother, I’m sad the season is over, I could use a ride to cheer up lol
Yes you have to snatch them when you can this time of year eh?
Do like the look of these... maybe when I'm old..
...won't be waiting too long then, I expect you'll be in the market for a new bike in a day or two...
@@TheMissendenFlyer OUCH !
As someone once said "Old is 7 years older than me". Not sure how this is comforting to the oldest person in the world, but until you are well over the "ton" they'll always be someone 7 years older ;)
100% agree. fabulous looking bike. just like a motorcycle should look when you think of a motorcycle.
Yup - it's how I used to draw them as a nipper....
Very nice TMF, these are just cool bikes. One mod I'd definitely have to have would be a Triumph tank pad, about £30, a bit ugly but protects that lovely tank from jacket zips . Thanks as always.
Yes I can't bring myself to go there - a bit of protective film does me....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Ah, stealth, impressive. I couldn't see it.
all good thanks for the information
Great review!
Yep....I've stuck around n stayed tuned.
This is how a bike should look and sound.
A machinists bike.
Thanks for the review. If (more like when) I buy a "modern classic", the Speed Twin is definitely on the short list.
In my view, it looks like a retro bike but rides like a spanking modern one. When you're on it, you wouldn't know that you're not riding a state of the art machine. You are, in all real respects.
A Fourdot number plate would maintain a legal font size & space but give you legal minimal borders giving the impression of a smaller plate, especially with anything of 6 characters or less and it would be legal. They're also beautifully made (as far as number plates can be). You have larger vertical borders than you need, you can go down to 11mm.
Tried one for a week in June this year. It was factory spec. Engine very snatchy in busy traffic. Seat chafes the inside of your thighs after a while. I lifted the seat and found that the seat base has a deep flange extending down from the rim and covered in seat fabic. This means the apparent seat padding is about 50% metal flange. Hence the poor seat comfort. So, snatchy in town, lively on bumpy bends and uncomfortable over distance.....
I left it after a week deciding I didn't like it. A shame, because I had hoped to leave with a much better impression....
Thank you for another great review, Andy.
These are just the best reviews! Not to be nosy, (well I guess I am), but, I catch a few glimpses of your garage. Have you ever done a video showing you garage setup and bikes? Is your garage dedicated to motorcycling? I have gear in house, garage, shed, everywhere!
No I haven't done that video I used to get asked for it a lot...and no it's a normal domestic garage complete with exercise machines, lawn mower, gardening stuff etc (alas!).....
I put Nitron rear shocks (NTR-01) and an Ohlins cartridge kit (NIX22) on my 2018 T100 and the improvement was profound. I wonder how this bike would respond to similar parts?
I have the same bike, the best Mod I've done so far, and there are many, is put K-Tech suspension on it front and back and it's just sublime to ride now.
Yes might have to think about a suspension upgrade in future...
@@TheMissendenFlyer If you're going to Loomies for a coffee in the near future I'll meet you and you can have a go on mine and feel the difference, the bike just glides down the road now and is much more stable in corners, well worth the spend if the bikes a keeper. Decat is a good Mod too :)
That’s a stunning looking bike! 👌
... and in less than a surprise, I blame this video for the fact that I now own a Speed Twin. Interesting note: not sure if it's a 2020 model thing or if I was 'lucky', but mine (brand new from the factory) came fitted with the larger 'torpedo-shape' turn signals - black with brushed aluminium end-caps. Loving the ride so far; compared to my T120, I'd say the Speed Twin is superior in every way save seat comfort - impressive, considering they cost virtually the same. I have to fathom that the T120 is mostly selling based on nostalgia and looks at this point, because I can't think of anywhere it's the superior model given its near-identical price point.
Congrats!!
Practical items? Worth mentioning that the right hand side panel snaps off and on really easily. And also has a bit of spare space. I used it to install an old and very small Autocom intercom that fits very nicely. Others may use the space for something else. Very easy to get at!
Make sure if you haven’t already check gear linkage is tight,lots out there including mine found loose..
Ordered a new one Yesterday, stroll on the better weather.
Congratulations Raymond!
Great review! I want one bad. I might have to install a set of PIAA horns though, unless they just look hideous on it...
Nice review. Definitely a good looking bike with a great engine. Although I still find it strange that so many big manufactures can't seem to get the throttle right when there are plenty of cheap & easy fixes available to the consumer?!? It's clearly not hard & not good enough!
Totally agree on the running lights, they should be on by default, great bike.
It's the same on my Tiger 800, quite odd that Triumph decided to not have them on by default. I can only guess it's because in dull weather the DRL's may seem too bright to oncoming traffic. More health and safety nonsense?
Nice bike It's a shame that Triumph doesn't pay more attention to the little things like the snatchy throttle & headlight. Do they have a customer relation department to talk about issues? Keep up the good work Andy it's much appreciated.
It's to do with euro 4 low emission compliance. This way when a customer gets it. They can make the changes and increase the power.
Awesome review !!!
Thank you....
That bike is gorgeous. I wouldn't change a thing.
I haven't and I don't intend to.,
Apart from the funny accsent.it was very informative.thanks mate.I think I will sack my bonnie and get one of them. cheers Marc at Byron bay nsw
I finally had the chance to visit a triumph dealer for a demo ride. I tested the speed twin. Really like the attention to detail. Suspension was awesome in comparison to my mt09. However, I was surprised that the throttle is jerkier than my mt09. My mt09 has been flashed which solved most of the issue. The speed twin torque and snatchy throttle was somewhat unexpected. I still like the engine of the mt09 better by a lot but I am loving the triumph brand as well. The mt09 is not meant to be compared to the speed twin. Both are fun bikes. The mt09 is very smooth and way more powerful. The triumph has a mechanical vibe to it which I like as well, it is also responsive but redline comes fast. At this point, the speed twin is not different enough to make me switch but I will definitely upgrade the mt09 suspension. I am now looking at the t120 for my wife and I and keep the mt09 for spirited riding.
Erasmo - I had a '19 MT-09 with adjustable (but not great) suspension. Rebound damping was maxed out & it still wanted to bounce on the too weak springs front & back.
My remedy was a '19 Triumph Speed Triple S! You don't need the RS with all the extra cost. The Showa suspension on the S is fantastic, every bit as good as my previous Kaw ZX10. More power than the MT-09, a more relaxed but taut ride, better road manners and unbelievably good finish on my white S. I am pleased but, of course, its a different look and style of bike than the Speed Twin.
Hi TMF I use a Rothewald Bike Lift for when I do any maintenance, wash or check the oil etc on my Honda VT750 as it doesn’t have a centre stand. It was only around £40 when I got it a few years ago and it’s the easiest thing to use.
Great review If I could have a bike thats the one for me
Glad you liked it!
Perfect review, very thorough, correct and unbiased! It’s a bike you don’t wanna get rid off! Only thing you didn’t mention is the long term value and depreciation. What do you think? Will Triumph continue with this model? Or is it just a homage thing? I hope they stop producing it so that it maintains its value because it’s a bike worth the money. I think another very positive detail on the bike are the tires, they help a lot to make this bike a peach in terms of handling! Thanks for your dedication and professionalism! Keep up the good work. I would wanna see a review on which bike in your garage you’d keep long term and which bike you’d not mind upgrading. Also how do you manage to keep the bikes going? I have 3 bikes and constantly feel I need to take them out one by one for a spin...and I don’t have the heart to sell any of them.
I share your pain!! Good “pain” though....thanks for watching!
It is a lovely looking bike for sure
Great vid, even greater bike. Installed the throttle spacers and cannot agree with you more! In fact, it feels so smooth that I am doubting to install the booster plug as well. In your opinion (or anybody's who has already done this), is that still a useful addition?
Definitely a gorgeous machine there TMF. It makes deciding which bike to buy next quite difficult for me. Bonneville T120 or Speed Twin? Might be a game time decision...
By the way, the lighting works in exactly the same way on my 2019 GS. The green dash indicator is on when the DRL is on. When the dipped headlight is switched on (either manually or automatically due to low light levels) the green indicator goes off.
Illogical captain.....
It may be because in the US market (where they make the money) we can’t turn off the headlights. Rather than making a Euro and a US switch, they made one to cover the bases.
I had a similar problem with my 1050 Tiger Sport ( fuelling down low ) well actually from a lot of reviews I read was the motor being quite tight from new after 7000-8000kms Kms would smooth out low RPM " to my surprise it did "
I've not reached there yet but I have found the more miles you do on a new bike the better they tend to get (within reason!)