Top 5 things I hate about my Triumph Speed Twin
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- I love my Speed Twin but after nearly a year of ownership there are a few things that niggle, in this video I tell you what they are!
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The one thing I hate about it is that you have one and I don’t.
@That Seventiesman Yeah but his main drive is a 2CV... I'm more jealous of his garage - in mine I have three lawnmowers and my wife's car. Best, Pete.
True
Same here...lols.
I think the person who told him to add a dab of grease to his break pads was also feeling a bit jealous 🤣
@@jonpram1737 yeah 😂😂
I’m going to go ride my faulty Triumph. The forecast is for 97% fewer texting drivers trying to kill me.
Everyone should come up with a top 5 list of pros and cons just to maintain our objectivity. Thanks for sharing yours.
That fuel cap is ridiculous - that would drive me nuts!
Hahaha. Turn the key then unscrew the cap. Don’t use the key to unscrew. Hahahaha British people.
Hahahahahaaaaa
The other thing that is annoying is that they put it on the wrong way. It opens in such a way that you have reduced space to fuel. It should be turned 180 degrees so it opens towards the front and leaves all the rest of the space for fueling. An easy thing to change though.
@@AndresArrieta They are easy to turn 180, I changed it around on my Thruxton
As someone who tends to fill up while sat on the bike this would really get on my nerves. Lift flap toward you, then reach around to get to the real filler cap. Stupid design that cannot have been done by anyone who has ever actually ridden a bike.
Agree about the broken indicator should be more bendy than breaky :-)
Yeah they are a bit cheap feeling. On my Tiger 800 the lens fell off. Unfortunately unlike the old style normal indicators they used you can't just replace the lens and I had to buy a complete indicator.
At Triumph prices there is no excuse for this
The squeak about the break you need to get a life if that’s the biggest thing that you’re whining about I bet your wife thanks you’re a piece of shit
When I was a public school principal (headmaster) one responsibility was to identify and mitigate potential hazards: playgrounds, workspaces, classrooms, gymnasiums, school buses, etc. Rather than just depend on professional health and safety officers, I’d also ask a handful of mothers to do a walk around. Without fail, the mothers would identify things the professionals, and myself, would never see. Kinda reminds me of this video. With all the millions of R & D dollars manufacturers spend, the insight of real-world riders remains extremely useful and to disregard always comes at a cost.
Can those mothers have a look at the 2020 Street Triple TFT styles?
Good job you didn't start riding in the early 70's, you'd have stopped riding pretty smartish I think. Disc brakes that didn't work in the wet, tyres that didn't grip in the wet, plugs fouling regularly, huge vibration, unreliability, draughty noisy helmets with visors scratching up in 6 weeks etc etc. The bikes were just as expensive as now, considering wages at the time. We called it character, and as it was all we knew and the bikes were a massive improvement from the 60's we loved it. A petrol guage that doesn't tell you you've just filled up until you've done 1/4 mile? How do you cope?
Biscuit Barrel, Totally agree mate. Yokohama gripless tyres. The Dunlop’s weren’t much better. Why did we ride bikes that were feckin dangerous? Because they were tremendous fun!!!
I remember a friends brother around that time saying "if anyone says that British bikes are the best in the world, punch him in the mouth". lol. His bikes spent more time in his shed in pieces than on the road.
This could turn in The Four Yorkshiremen sketch but about motorcycles :)
"When I was a lad, we didn't have tyres on our rims, just plain metal"
"you were lucky, our rims weren't even round!"
"rims, rims, we didn't even have wheels, we had to walk along with the frame between our legs!"
@@karlosh2422 Well of course we had it tough. We used to dream of walking along with t'frame between our legs, would have been luxury to us. Best we could do was hop on one leg with handlebars taped to our arms but it was a bike to us.
@@karlosh2422 excellent contribution, you have won todays internet.
Greetings TMF -
I feel the need to comment on this - I love my Speed Twin. I have never had any sound from the front brakes. Ive never felt bothered by the gas cap or transparent front brake fluid reservoir. I do understand the fuel level sender is not an instant mechanical float. & the USA version has heavy duty turn signal arms that will not break if you kick it or bump it getting on or off. I also have the booster plug and the Ducati spacers. The bike is an absolute BLAST to ride! It feels very quick accelerating, exceptionally light, nimble and securely planted leaning over hard into corners. I feel this is the most brilliant standard bike money can buy. I love it.
Best Regards,
MotoPG
The gas cap is absurd! I've never seen anything like it. I'm thinking of getting a Speed Twin but the gas cap has me thinking twice. I have an Explorer 1200 and the cap you just insert the key and open it. If I had to then deal with a second cap I'd be annoyed.
Have you noticed any excessive heat from the engine by any chance?
I'll admit to being a little nervous when clicking this one as I was worried you'd make me find things to hate about mine, but I'm very happy with your list, because there's nothing at all to worry about!
Luckily, my brakes don't squeak.
Totally agree with the light indicator being inverted, but if that's the worst thing...
I leave my fuel cap unlocked at all times, so this isn't an issue for me.
Agree on the brake reservoir and optioned the (expensive) anodised version.
The fuel gauge is also a non-issue for me. The one time I don't need a fuel gauge is when I've just filled up!
I fitted miniature Motogadget indicators that are invisible when they're not flashing because the stock ones look naff, as you'd say (and I'd probably also kick them off).
Love your channel mate. Stay safe!
What Motogadget indicators did you end up ordering? Im not sure which ones are able to be fitted to the Speed Twin in the MG line. Was thinking about these as the Rizoma's I've seen are mega bucks each.
@@MrGuitarboy100 I got the mo.blaze pins (motogadget.com/shop/en/m-blaze-pin.html). These are super bright despite their size. I had to change the resistance but that was easy in the secret menu (hold 'i' button while turning on ignition or something like that, then select the setting that flashes at the correct frequency).
I made blanking plates (Dremelled and painted some thin steel) because a single "pin" replaces the double holes that remain after removing stock indicators, but you can buy these for the ST from Tec (www.tecbikeparts.com/product/indicator-adapter-mounts-for-oe-triumph-lights-allows-oe-type-2-hole-indicator-with-tec-tail-tidy/), for example.
The way I see it, the whole DRL indicator light arrangement, that seems to get mentioned mention a good deal, makes perfect logical sense, because when it's dark enough to use the headlight, you don't want an indicator light shining in your face affecting your night vision. When it daytime, and you have the DRL on, it does least harm. Just an alternative perspective to consider.
That fuel cap would do me in totally.
That unscrewing , I couldn't even watch it on the video.
My OCD can't cope.
Yes rubbish design those....
@@TheMissendenFlyer And likely to scratch the paintwork with the key, or fob, while unscrewing, and refitting into place. Be careful - which i'm sure you are, (minor OCD, TMF) - when refuelling.
If the fuel cap is locked then it's a piece of piss to unlock with two hands. My Scrambler 1200 is keyless so to save me the hassle of getting the bladed remote out of my pocket to unlock the cap, I leave the cap in the unlocked position. You learn this lesson the first time you fill up 👍
the fuel cap is not a problem if you open it properly.
@Bad Santa If you try to lock or unlock the fuel filler cap with one hand, whilst holding a camera in the other, then it's just about doable but a bit of a faff. If you try locking or unlocking using the time honoured method recognised by any sensible human being it no longer becomes an issue. Certainly not one that would make me stress or cause Triumph to lose a sale
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Welcome along! ....and no, I wouldn't bother personally....
I agree re: DRL. Brake really hard to get the abs to cut in on the front and that will probably clear the brake pad dust. If not, a dob of copper slip on the back of the pads at the next service will sort that.
The lockdown is seriously getting to you, go try some yoga or something to calm down. Lift your leg a bit higher and by a miracle the indicators won’t break. Relax 😂
My sentiments exactly. Surprised you didn't mention the horn unless it's been upgraded from my '16 Triumph. When I beeped it in my drive I was anointed "king of the crickets" by the pesky little noise makers. $25 and about an hour or two and we have a horn worthy of the name. ps, completely agree about the fuel cap.
Yeah bit of a weak review TBH
@@thedogandduck1712 it's not a review. He's just venting his frustrations about the bikes weak points. Which is fair enough. Everyone likes a moan now and again.
Hi TMF,caught you in the latest Bennets torqueing heads video and the biggest compliment I can pay you is you did not look out of place with the other journalists..Liked and thanks as always...stay safe....🏴
That's very kind Ian - although I have no desire (and never have) to be a motorcycle journalist!
Small things but you are spot on with the daytime/dipped headlight wiring. They ARE wired up wrong if your brain's wired up right :)))
Nope - wired up totally logically. Light comes on with the DRL as it should - you wouldn't want the green light on at night time to tell you that the dip beam is on. Green warning light means: you only have DRL on.
Gee whiz TMF, you really were in a bit of a mood when you recorded that! It came through very clearly. Is the lockdown getting to you?
How can he not be in a mood. It is almost May, and no riding!
@@CCitis I'm in Colorado where motorsports are considered essential!
@@CCitis , excellent point! :-)
@@i2ambler2002 Here in FL, its pretty much a year around. If you're one that loves rain riding.
The front brake's glazed fella, do a couple of 'heavy' stops using the front brake to break the glaze and the squeak will go
Dave Blakeney agree - it works on mine!
@@mickcresswell1031 Yup, squeak gone here also!
Mine doesn't squeek ?
nope. tried that with mine a million times, does not work. squeaked from day one. but now the brake disc seems to be warped as a bonus. fun.
Yeap, had the same issue. It may happen during tough braking when it's cold and the pads are cold or in the rain. In case of a real issue, talking out the pads and a piece of sandpaper help.
Really enjoy your honesty TMF. Thanks for taking the time to point out these issues. I must admit I seriously considered this as my next new bike, as I love the look, the handling, and the power of this machine. However, that all changed after I took one for an extended test ride on warm summer"s day in Sydney.... The heat coming from the 1200cc power plant was, let's just say, uncomfortable....
Funnily enough I’ve never had an issue with that - but then I also ride a Panigale!
TheMissendenFlyer can you please send me a link to the asbestos underwear you must wear. 😉😂 😂 Stay safe my friend!
I use a similar thing! czcams.com/video/2hEw4RZq8fs/video.html
Tha fuel cap looks like a holy crap moment waiting to happen. Thanks for the videos, always top quality Andy.
1) Squeaky Brakes easily sorted
2) The DRL on my R1200 GS & 765 RS functions in exactly the same way
3) Fuel Cap is the same as on my Scrambler 1200. I just leave the cap unlocked
4) Brake Fluid Reservoir if it offends you then change it. It's no biggie
5) Slow Operating Fuel Gauge I'd be more annoyed if it ran out of fuel still showing 2 bars full
6) Don't kick your indicator
For any other problems there is always Gin 👍
Well said....agree totally....
That petrol gauge winge is a bit hilarious honestly. Why does it matter how quickly it goes up! You know there's a full tank of petrol, you just filled it up 😆
OCD works in mysterious ways.
Hate dige fuel gauge in block units
It’s a minor gripe but it just annoys me when it doesn’t need to happen....
It's a good job he's not got the 1992 trident the fuel light came on after quarter of a mile on a 25 LTE tank
See now I thought exactly the same. After visiting the petrol station, you know it's full up (I never usually do a partial fill up on any vehicle, car or bike ) BUT during lockdown, well we haven't been allowed to make non essential journeys, therefore petrol has been left sitting in my Speed Twin. The current E5 (5% ethanol) petrol can go off quite quick and gum things up. Yes I can use fuel stabiliser, which I had done, but it had been so long I thought best to syphon off the fuel into a jerry can, and put it in the car which at least does a few "essential" journeys.
Now with a fuel gauge that has the speed of a sloth on sedative drugs, I really don't know how much is in the tank. I know it's not a lot, but how much ? The gauge just keeps showing much more than I know is really in the tank.
My Street Triple suffers from exactly the same issue !
Nice too see you back ,good advice thanks 👍
I haven't been anywhere!!???
Nice video mate,enjoyed it 👍
Can certainly understand your frustration with the fuel cap situation, would bug me firstly that It’s not one of those Hinge cap style ones and secondly that you have to screw it round 5 times🤣They might as well have just given you a screw driver.
I’ve thought about the daytime running lights issue (I have a Speed Twin) - I think it’s more of a warning that you only have the DRL on rather than full (dipped) headlights on for when you ride at night. If the opposite was the case I think it’d be easy to forget to put the lights on full (dipped) beam.
What the hell is a dipped headlight?
@@holdencaulfied7492 Just what it says: the headlamp beam is dipped, not on full (raised) beam. Perhaps we're suffering from translation loss?
@@gerrycollins2335 Must be a British term. Go Manchester United!
TMF, I agree with your list and am happy that they're rather minor items. I also agree that this is an epic bike and a keeper. It checks more boxes for me than any of my other bikes, past and present. I plan to do the gauge face update as seen in your other videos. Am also converting to the euro-spec directionals and appreciate the warning about their fragility. Keep up the great work!
Cheers Tom - love my Speed Twin, brilliant bike....
I have a Thruxton R and agree about the brake reservoir. My biggest annoyance with it as maybe with the rest of the line is I wish the rider mode would stay selected. You stop for lunch or gas and you have to set it back to sport or rain if that’s your selection.
The brake reservoir is not only cheap looking, it looks like it obscures some of the speedo.
Change the handle bars
anyone know why sometimes they chose to have the reservoir in a round container with a cap on top and sometimes in an, often rectangular, closed black container? Personally since i see the round container on performance machines it makes me associate the 'cheaper, looking reservoir with faster bikes.
sam The smaller round ones are most of the times external reservoirs for radial brake pumps. The rectangular ones are builtin on regular brake pumps. The radial brake pumps are supposed to have a better brake feel. Haven’t tried one myself yet.
@@TreyyDaMenaceFan Good question! I'm looking at a Brembo plastic reservoir that costs £50. There must be a good reason why track bikes have these so called cheap reservoirs.
All I can think of is that they're lightweight, transparent so the fluid can be easily seen, easy to open (fluid has to be changed between races), and simple with few points of failure.
I guess we know who scuffs all the saddlebags at the dealership.
after being a serious TMF fan, and becoming a triumph fan-boy, I think I'm leaning toward the Street Scrambler for my first.. I love the T-120 (includes heated grips !! and center-stand !!) and was surprised these two options are either not stock equipment or even available on the Speed Twin. Thanks TMF
Excellent video and some interesting points
Off topic on the side sorry , but What Hooks do you use to hang your crash helmets from the ceiling ?
Best regards Shaun .
Just EBay garage hooks....
Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!
naff (UK slang): poorly thought out; in poor taste.
your workbench looks very clean !
Andy, just bear in mind that if you've just filled your tank up you don't really need to be looking at your fuel gauge, surely it's better to have something that's more accurate lol
It better be good, I’ve just placed an order on a used one (1,000 miles) and it will be my return to bikes after an 8 year hiatus, can’t wait till it’s delivered! Keep up the good work Andy. You need to do more reviews on your biking gear.
You'll love it - congratulations!! (and yes, more reviews coming on kit...
The Speed Twin is my fav of all your bikes, with the little Honda close second. Great chat, keep them coming Andy, be safe.
Cheers Ken - you too!
I agree only the daylight running lights should come on. That is how it works in cars and vans. Surely a simple fix
But cars and Van's don't have there lights permanently written into law like motorcycles do. I bet triumph have to have it this way round and a light to warn you the DRL is on.
I think just about all EU member states and US & Canada require dipped headlights to be on at all times on motorcycles. DRL only could get you a ticket. And other than for vanity reasons or as parking lights, I really don't see why I would use DRL only.
Can't the switch just have the wires flipped?
@@sv650nyc7 I think a DRL is generally brighter than a dipped headlight and doesn't look like it's flashing as you go over bumps in the road. Much safer in my opinion.
@@simonrichards5430 I don't think it's a proper switch and the default will always be the dipped headlight.
My Tuono doesn't even have a fuel guage.
That fuel gauge issue also applies to the street twin. It got me worried the first time I filled up a close to empty tank but now I am used to it.
Good video and nice to see you on the Bennetts U-Tube channel.
Glad you liked it!
I am also with you on the fuel meter thing. In 2020? Ridiculous.
My 2010 Sprint 1050 does the same.....freaked me out when I first filled it up.
I think you need to do some work on your speedy
1. Sort brakes
2. Turn Monza cap round
3. Change indicators
4. Have patience with gauge
5. Accept lights, why do you need drl when you have dipped beam
6. Change brake reservoir
This will keep you busy and stop cabin fever
Finally be grateful
I agree with you, as regards the DLR. makes perfect sense to have it the other way around. 👍🏻
I agree the lights are back to front. Personally I'd always go for transparent plastic reservoirs so I can see if I'm likely to crash any time soon!
Interestingly the squeaky front brakes were the main reason I canceled my order it just shouldn’t happen plus I agree with you about the brake reservoir and fuel cap pretty cheap and nasty for the price you pay for the bike Cheers Chips.
Yes yes.... you just justify your way out of the purchase of a Speed Twin .... my squeak left after bike was run in. Just leave the Speedie for riders who love torque, handling and shooting the breeze with admirers of modern classics. Owning one is a dream.
To remove squealing you apply brake grease on the edges of the caliper pistons, make sure the pads come with metal shims, or change the pads to softer material (the commonly used sintered HH pads are overkill for most riders anyways). Many ways to alleviate squealing brakes for cheap and it can be an issue on any bike. To not buy a bike for that reason seems strange.
Di Korlaet Firstly I own 2 Triumph Motorcycles a 2012 Street Triple R and a 2018 Tiger 800 which are both great bikes plus I also have 3 other bikes which does include a retro as well plus I also ride about 20000km annually so I wasn’t trying to justify not purchasing the bike ,to me when you’re buying a premium brand these sorts of things should not happen and when I started to do a bit of research it seemed to be a problem with the T120 and the Speed Master as well and apparently Triumph didn’t want to know about it when people complained which I thought was pretty ordinary that’s why I didn’t go through with the purchase.
I sense "cabin fever" taking hold TMF??.......OR are "Top five things I LOVE about my Triumph Speed Twin " coming next??
...already done that one Iain - you must have missed it...
@@TheMissendenFlyer oh........my bad! I will look. All the best TMF
It's a nice bike but I still prefer the street triple,! Noticed on one of your videos you have a jacket with the number 7 on it I think, what make is it? . Looking for a new jacket to go with my new bike after this lock down!
Great channel mate, keep it up
That's an old Frank Thomas jacket I bought years ago - a summer mesh one - looks good but has terrible protection...
Thanks for these! Exactly the things you never hear about in other reviews.
I aim to please!
Try getting out the other side of the bed tomorrow TMF😀
I hope Stuart fillingham doesn’t see this 😮
Why?
TheMissendenFlyer haha only joking, just loves his triumphs!
@@GadgetMart Stuart now seems to be saying Triumph's are overpriced compared to his RE Interceptor. Although I guess he still loves them.
Surely he doesn't watch TMF.
splodge 57 he does he was bitching a week or so ago suggesting Andy was out making videos during the lockdown, stupid old fart.
I am upgrading soon I am still in the fence between the speed twin and the Z900RS. Love your videos thanks for sharing
My pleasure....
Rode the speed twin one week ago and loved every second on it. It took me by surprise how good it felt to ride this bike.
Made in Thailand 😂 love my old SE am tempted to switch to a newer model. The new street twin with improved brakes etc looks promising and might be a good chill option for me. I always find get the second gen of new models , quirks ironed out 😁
Yes, glorious Thailand made bike making it very good value in Canada. Feels premium ....love mine......
Is it me or is it his old age kicking in 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looking to test ride one of these soon so will see whether I pick up on these bad points!
Hello TMF, congrats on your CZcams vids, brilliant as far as I am concerned. Just something you might like knowing, the other day I was in the Triumph Showroom in Madrid, Spain, and your vids were STREAMING on their TV... I have a question for you: currently riding a 2019 Scrambler XE, been offered a brand new 2020 Speed Twin as a straight swap - any thoughts? And another one for everyone´s benefit, why haven´t you decatted your Speed Twin yet? All the best and keep up the excellent work.
Wow really - how cool!! ...with regards to the swap depends what sort of bike you like - Id swap it personally but that's only because I find the Scrambler too big. And for the record my Speed Twin is decatted - I have a motone X-Pipe fitted plus booster plug.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Cheers TMF! Re. the decat, my bad, must have missed that piece of info in your Speed Twin vids. Will be testing the Speed Twin next Thursday, let´s see how it goes. I´m 6ft3 hence the Scrambler, but I do want something lighter and more flickable...
And the one thing you like about the Triumph is it's not a Harley!😁
I rode a harley many yrs ago my friends electraglide I believe it was huge steered badly and the brakes were shit oh and it was underpowered and sluggish he'd put thousands of aftermarket stuff on including brakes!! I was gobsmacked at how shit it was I'd never buy or own a harley they are just posing machines
When it's a 'premium machine'? You believed the salesman selling you that Thailand built thing then I take it? lol!
OMG, the DRL switch and whether you're in dipped or not drives me absolutely bananas! So glad I'm not the only one that finds the light on/off logic completely backwards, drives me nuts on my Street RS!
I have some of the same complaints about my T120. While it takes a few miles after fill up to register a full tank at least it has a fuel gauge which my more expensive Aprilia Tuono Factory lacks!! Great video!
Rather disappointed by your post Mr Flyer. ‘Hate’ is such an emotive word, meaning intense or extreme feeling. What you are referring to are niggles or general dislikes. Nothing is perfect even on top quality machines like your speed twin.
We expect more when we lay down serious cash. Nothing is perfect but these things are simply careless design and completely avoidable.
Agreed David...gets views though.
Typical winging Pom! None of the things you mentioned are a real issue.
Cheers for that Brian - all the best mate!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Maybe he should try spelling Whingeing properly!
@@stevenhill6214 Maybe he meant to say whining ?
He was just winging it :)))
@@barriewilliams4526 Typical arrogant Aussie, can't spell for shit.
Great review as always but seriously, you need to chill. Hang on in there, we’ll be out riding soon I’m sure.
Hi Andy,
👍
You mentioned in one of your clips you were going to do a piece on your garage security bar. Any thoughts on when?
Hope you’re bearing up under lock-down
Scheduled to publish that one on June 1st (this may change slightly)...not recorded it yet mind!
Totally agree with your #3 brake reservoir complaint. I would go one further and ask why do all triumphs come with that little reservoir sticking up there - ugly and waiting to get ripped off. My Honda has a nice aluminum cast reservoir as part of the brake lever. You barely notice it and it’s nicely out of the way so it won’t get smucked if you happen to go down.
I was so worried seeing this video pop up this morning as I have a 2020 Speed Twin arriving this week! Glad to learn that none of these things are dealbreakers!
Certainly not, it's a brilliant bike and you'll love owning it - congratulations!
Jim Cole - honestly, Jim, I expect you’ll love it when we’re all allowed back out. I’ve had mine a year now and I still have a huge grin when I ride mine. I did change the brake res to the metal one (£70 dealer fit), the fuel cap and gauge never bother me, neither does the drl mentioned, I’ve never heard of the issue with the indicators (just lift your leg a bit higher!!) and on the brakes, I hear some bikes squeal, some don’t - mine does a little, so either do a couple of really good stops when they’re warm (mine stop squealing after that) or take discs off and re-seat them using a dial gauge (agree this is a bit excessive and shouldn’t happen on a premium bike!). Enjoy it when it lands - it’s brilliant!
@@TheMissendenFlyer It was partly your videos that got me interested in the Speed Twin. I must've watched all your Speed Twin videos numerous times. Inquired at my local triumph garage and two test-rides later I bought one!
Thankyou for your videos! Always enjoy watching them!
Hello, thank you for the video! I currently own an R9T BMW, but it so inconfortable, I am thinking about triumph again. Is the Speed twin more confortable than a BMW, or you would advice a T120? I mainly do 4h rides on sunny Sunday with 1/3 of it on motorways... thank you and keep the good video!
I'd advise the Speed Twin....otherwise I would have bought the T120 or R9T!!
Hi I’ve watched and liked a fair few of your videos....weird question but what is that at the back ov your garage door?
That's a security barrier - video coming early June on that!
Andy love your work mate keep it up, from Brisbane Australia. I have just bought a speed twin (traded up from the street cup) and after 3000km including some touring I love the bike, and your reviews definitely gave some great insights into the pros & cons. I have already put the V&H cans on and a Dart flyscreen is on order to help a bit with touring.
I noted your comment on the rear indicators, and just wanted to let you know that I have installed a ventura rack (EVO) which is a very simple DIY install, and allows a range of luggage from 10litres up to 60 litres. The reason I mention it is that the rack totally protects the rear indicators, apart from the benefits of taking some gear on longer rides.
Anyway, keep up the good work and stay safe. Cheers Jim
Cheers Jim - good call!
Good and constructive notes. Congrats.
Thank you
Yay! A new TMF video. Life is good!
Hi, have you noticed your left foot going numb from vibration? It happens to me on longish rides.
Makes me chuckle that the DRLs still irk you. You've had this niggle for years!
I agree with you on the brake fluid reservoir. It should be anodised on the premium models. I do love your STR reservoirs. I need to get some for mine.
Bummer about the indicators! Not what I would expect.
Thanks for the video. Great as always!
All these really are minor niggles, I love the bike overall ....a joy to ride (not that I’ve ridden it much!!)....
Beats me why all these premium modern bikes have these dodgy reservoirs on them anyway, if bikes in the 90's had them integrated into the levers, why not now! Looks so much better.
I bought NOS Daytona anodized reservoir for my Speed Twin at half the cost of a new item specifically for the Speed Twin - I simply used the original bracket instead of the Daytona item.
I agree, there is always something(s) about a bike that just eat at us. But we love the bike anyway. One with my Goldwing is the turn signal/horn location -always honking when I don't mean to.Also, I finally settled on a garage mate for my Goldwing -although choices were limited by availability and logistics during this lockdown I knew I wanted an RE, Guzzi, or Triumph. I found a pristine 2006 Triumph Bonneville (6k miles and one owner) base (I think, it has a decal rather than a badge on the tank). The previous owner had put on aftermarket exhaust, rejetted the carbs, a pillion cowl, café bars, and mirrors that look a lot like yours. She's a beauty (all black, engine included) and she runs like a scared cat. Sounds great as well. I tell you all this because your Triumph reviews are what inspired me to look at Triumph in the first place. Thanks and stay well!
Awesome bike. Did you get the Vance and Hines pipes on it or are those the pipes that came with it? It sounds fantastic regardless.
They're a Triumph Option...they are brill to look at and listen too....
I’m afflicted with the same issue with blinkers, both front & rear, but these are on an old 1994 Kawasaki ZR750 Zephyr. Old style, stick right out there for snapping off type. More so when in the garage and being bumped when squeezing past. Replaced three times. It’s a classic looking motorcycle though, designed like bikes of the 70s. Thanks for more lockdown entertainment. Stay well. 👍🏍😷🇦🇺
I had the same issues with the fuel gauge on my Explorer a few years ago. It was fine before it went in for a service then it came out and was taking a while to read full after fill ups. I now have a Street Triple 765R and I have done the same with the indicator. Doesn't take a lot to break the plastic. 🤦♂️
Lots of passion in this video. The next The Top 6 Things I lurve about my Triumph Speed Twin. The fuel filler cap would be the thing, like with TMF, that would also push me over the edge.
I made that video a while back!
@@TheMissendenFlyer And it was good, no fakery involved.
I can see your point about the fuel cap. That would get old pretty quick. The fuel gauge on my Tiger 800 does the same thing as yours. I'm thinking it must be the software. When I first noticed it, I thought the level sensor was broken.
i had the pleasure of riding one of these last year when my bike was being serviced. It was a wet day and my feet kept slipping on the foot rests which put me right off.
So weird. I rode in the rain yesterday, no issues ..... I suspect it's a foot problem ;)
Question: when I drive my brand new bike, I can hear the disc brakes rotating, sounds like they press against the braking pad. Is this common? Just the sound, doesnt feel it in any other way.
Could be binding a little - best get it checked.....
You're experimenting with a more dynamic filming style. I like it.
Err am I? Great - glad you like it Bill!!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Faster more spontaneous pace seemed less scripted. Handheld camera movement, pulling back to frame the shot, it has a different look. Thought it was intentional.
the front brakes on my '18 Street squeak as well. Once lockdown restrictions are lifted I'll put some copper grease on and let you know if that fixes it
This is so practical, and that's how a bike video should be.
I recon the fuel cap and slow response gauge could be symptomatic of 'Generalised Fuel Anxiety'. Lol. Completely agree with your point about the lights, would be a huge improvement to swap them over. Keep well fella!
"Generalised Fuel Anxiety" - Maybe the design team at Triumph need to sort the fuel guage issue by having a chat with the company psychiatrist.
Definitely agree with the headlight/drl switch scenario....
Having just bought my first ever Triumph, this was an interesting video. I agree with you about the brake reservoir, it's the same on my Street Scrambler...it simply doesn't look the same quality as the rest of the bike. Interestingly the filler cap on mine is very nice quality, lockable (unlike the previous model), easy opening affair. The quirky fuel guage seems to be a uniquely Triumph thing. My bike is exactly the same, but I've never experienced it with any other brand of bike. Notwithstanding your list of six, I imagine the thing you hate most about it, is that you can't ride it at the moment! Keep up the good work.
Yes very true Gareth! This list is irrelevant when you ride the bike as it’s such a joy to ride....I love the comfort, the sound, the looks....great bike (hence why I bought it!)...
Agreed, the indicators are flimsy. Half of one of mine has disappeared ,put a bit of coppaslip on the back of the pads. It's what they will do at the dealership so why not do it yourself, it works.
I daren't fiddle with my brakes....
Hey TMF can you do a video on your garage door? I have an automated roller but it isn't the best. Fine to open but closing seems to me like pushing string, no wonder it's not reliable. Yours looks like some kind of ceiling mounted track? Bet it works smoothly and reliably
It does indeed...
My 2019 Speed Triple RS also has a front break squick when applied sometimes and I also fee the headlight switch seems reversed but I also knew this from reviews. Thanks...
my 2020 tiger takes ages to register added fuel. My fuel light was on yesterday, with 35 miles to empty, and I filled er up. The light went off straight away, but the range crept up one out two miles at a time, all the way up to around 200. 5 mins down the road it still showed a less than a quarter tank. I get the fuel sloshes around, so it makes sense to dampen the response a tad, but not five minutes.
Hi Andy, test riding one tomorrow in Paris. Do you know if they've corrected these issues on the 2022 model? They don't seem like deal-breakers to me and as you say you can always find something you don't like on every bike!
Did you see my review of the latest bike?
@@TheMissendenFlyer no, I'll check it out, thanks! Test ride at 10am. Also testing the Trident and Speed Triple R. Not sure I can do better than my current Fantic 500 as I do mainly urban riding unfortunately🥲
@@tonydare7614 ....I think you are going to love all three bikes ;0)
Top video. I agree the DRL should come on with the ignition and then use the he switch for the headlights and main beam. 👍
Try riding an older R1200RT. Fuel strips are always failing/misreading. Sometimes my "miles until empty" increases as I ride, and after filling up, it takes about 30 miles to register correctly. Hence I just ignore the whole fuel gauge as it cannot be trusted.
Good morning, My 2012 Tiger Explorer's gas gauge takes about a half mile to come up to a full reading after gassing up. I suspect this is standard on Triumphs? Regarding your plastic brake reservoir and rear turn signal...Like most manufacturers, Triumph builds even their premium machines to a price point and P&E is likely a good business for them. Considering a Speed Twin but am concerned my 65 yr old wrists and back might suffer. What are your thoughts on bar risers. (Should I just look at the T-120?)
The Speed twin is a very comfortable bike - you won't need to change it I wouldn't have thought - the T120 isn't any more comfy in my opinion....
Good point on the lights.
I bought a 2012 Street Triple in black and gold because I loved your bike, Flyer. Now I'm looking at Speed Twins, and you've sold me on yet another Triumph
I actually think I prefer my Speed Twin to ride than the Street Triple - though I prefer the looks of the Street….
I’ve got to agree with you on the day time running light and more importantly the indicators, I had my 765 street triple RS under cover and I barely brushed past the back end and off came the indicator. Enjoying your reviews.
Out of interest have you tried the lower powered street twin as I’m looking to change soon.
I have indeed - rides great but feels/looks a bit "cheap" compared to the other Triumphs....
Does the heat on your leg from the engine become an issue after a while? I’ve heard some owners complain about this
Nope - I've never had a issue - but then I am used to riding my Panigale!
Copper grease lightly smeared on the back of the brake pad and/or anti-squeal shim is proper, it should be there to allow the pad to slide on the piston, and it stops squeaking.