A Secret about Art
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- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- In which John discusses making art and the response so far to the Turtles All the Way Down movie, which is streaming on Max now. Thanks to everyone who has brought their deepest selves to it.
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What if we kissed at the wish dot com Turtles All the Way Down step and repeat?
But how many padlocks can we attach to it to show our undying love?
I’d be thinking of the 80 million microbes!🦠 🐢
Still waiting for my ten dollars back, John.
Than you step back and repeat, as the name suggests :D
I suspect your wife would take issue with the event.
A rare format/vlog hybrid! Experimental.
Keeping it fresh after 18 years. -John
I was watching your appearance on Craig Ferguson yesterday. I'd say keeping it fresh part was handled well enough ;)
@@vlogbrothers the Fresh Prince of Indy
18 years?! I think I just sprouted a grey hair 😅
What is format? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but can’t find anything more about it
It's not the quality of the bit that matters. Commitment to the bit is what matters, and John, you definitely committed to the bit!
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RAX!!!!!
ALWAYS commit to the bit.
I was thinking about that just yesterday, some of Conan O'Brien's best bits, are him _fully_ committing to what was initially just a dumb joke.
Makes me wonder if Hank has deeper insights from all that time he got to spend listening to comedians :)
Every time john checks on the weather a little part of me just gets so happy
Gotta check on the weather. -John
@@vlogbrothersmy son would say that was fantastic weather 🌧
And what about the Mic cable...
@@helenmurphree3434 Same weather-appreciation highfive to your son 🙂
It looked beautiful to me.
For what it’s worth, the movie has come out at turtle mating season, so the turtles at my work are stacked on top of each other. It’s turtles down for about two turtles
This is delightful
Thank you John. Turtles gave me the gift of a second chance at life 7 years ago. This year I got a spiral tattoo from Atlanta, I flew for the first peak of the movie I flew to LA for the first screening. Turtles has given me a life, aza has given me a space to not be alone. Thank you.
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You video about this book is amazing and all of Nerdfighter should watch and enjoy the beauty! #DFTBA
@@johngill5175 thank you!! I hope it can impact some people!
you also did so much (most, even!) of that yourself! holy wow, go you!!!
Apologies for the off topic comment but I had to get a TB test for work yesterday, and even though I hate needles, because of your videos I was comforted by knowing how important detection is and how lucky and privileged I am to live in a country where it was easy, cheap, and safe to get. Thinking of the people all across the world who can now get the simple test I would have taken for granted made me so proud of the work nerdfighteria has done. But of course there is so much more to do!
I'm so proud of you for getting your TB test done! It's so nice when our knowledge and nerdfighter work can help in situations like that. You did so good! DFTBA!
Fantastic work!
Tuberculosis will always be on topic in this community!
I liked the step and repeat bit. Never discount your own art John ❤️
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To have worked so hard for such a brief gag is art in itself... but only because we brought our hearts to acknowledge it too.
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John Green should win the Oscar for Best supporting actor in Turtles all the way down.
Crash Course Physical Education
I identify most with Aza's mom, as I read Turtles All the Way Down when my daughter gave it to me and told me it was the best description of her OCD thought spirals she had ever read. Both the book and the outstanding movie allow me to see and feel a bit of what her high school life was like and how she experiences her illness.
Me, too. My son was diagnosed with OCD at age 10.
The format is so comforting
I love that this does count as a proper response to Hank's video from last week. Hank went "there's problems in the thing!" and John went "ah, yes, but the problems are part of the thing." truly inspiring
awww! That's very sweet
John, this feels like the perfect companion piece to I Already Got Paid.
Like I said then, making something good is *hard*. And you've perfectly captured the "everything else" that isn't profit incentives and logistics and capricious decision-makers.
I'm saving this one to my "Thoughts about art" playlist. And thank you for being here ❤
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John, thank you. For a lot of things, but they all add up to me not feeling alone. Thank you. TATWD is beautiful. Thank you.
Thanks to you as well! The gratitude goes both ways. -John
this is why you're one of my favorite people, and I mean that in the most wholesome, loving way. You make the world suck so much less. Love you, Hank and all of nerdfighteria *feeling misty eyed* @@vlogbrothers
"How to make the book visible without making it sensationalized." This is so important for me as someone who struggles with mental illness and feeling alienated by sensational media. Thank you Turtles team!!!! 🐢❤
My partner and I made a date night of the Turtles All the Way down premier. Made mini spiral paintings, ate at Applebee's, then watched the movie with turtle themed snacks and Dr Pepper.
Thanks for making such a great movie and book John. It means a lot to us!
I live vicariously through you.
It’s been an unforgettable weekend that I will always cherish. I loved sharing the experience of this movie with nerdfighteria, my favorite part is how delighted we were to see your scene in the movie. Coach Adler, I grew fond of him immediately. Truly a sentiment to how great of an actor you are.
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This book/movie has a special place in my neurodivergence. The first time I saw this book on the shelf, my dyslexia read "Tuatara's All The Way Down". Imagine my surprise at the tuataras featured in the book. Loved the book and the movie, but in different ways.
As a 27 year old who read turtles all the way down years ago, I did not expect to cry so much or be so touched by this movie about a 16 year old girl. Thank you for everything you create. We’re here because we’re here ❤
Hi John! I believe it was actually Oscar Wilde who posited that all bad poetry was sincere, or rather more specifically that "“All bad poetry springs from genuine feeling. To be natural is to be obvious, and to be obvious is to be inartistic." The full version makes his critique clearer, but I think I nevertheless prefer the abridgement you quoted for its pithiness. Brevity, wit, etc.
Anyways, I love the sentiment of this video. I'm also a firm believer in the notion that one of the greatest gifts you can give someone is your sincere and thoughtful attention. I struggle with social anxiety, and being on the other side of that guileless, open acceptance is so fulfilling, so I aspire to bring that same openness to all my relationships.
That was really beautiful. Thank you, human. ❤
I appreciate that you shorted a famous saying about brevity down :D
i knew the turtles movie would be good, but i never expected just *how* good it would be. The John-Green-book-to-screen-adaptations have just been increasing in quality and i'm so glad that this book has been done such justice (imho). It's a story that desperately needed to be portrayed on screen
I watched the movie and was enjoying it, until the mum started singing "We're here" to Aza and then I burst into tears. Thanks a lot, John! Thanks a lot!!
I hope you enjoyed crying too.
Me too.
During the initial read of Turtles, I had to step away for a bit at the first mention of the callus. I felt immediately understood and wholly vulnerable all at once. After a few breaths, I walked back. Why? Because yours was the spiral painting that I couldn't walk away from. Thanks, John. :)
great comment
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I adored this movie! My mom watched it with me and I genuinely feel like it helped her better understand me, my brain and my OCD. Thank you John!
As an artist who has made a little good, a lot bad, and a ton of somewhere in between art, those last 17 seconds really sum it up.
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I quit my engineering career to become a musician and I was trying to explain to somebody recently how much harder it was than I anticipated, and it's all for this reason. I've had to work so hard learning to be okay with putting my whole self into it, and people who don't do art for their career sometimes struggle to understand that. Thanks for this community 🙂
That beginning brought me back Crash Course World History 40
"STAN, don't cut to the intro, I sing like an angel!!"
I've always said the hardest part of art is when you give it to the world and it is no longer solely yours, but the most beautiful part is what the world does with it in answer.
I just saw Ludwig talking about the movie and the movie primer. And now you, it feels like it is everywhere, so it is working.
Excellent.
"It is everywhere." What is "it"?
I watched it 2 days ago and I need to watch it again! I spent a half hour when it was over just sitting with it. I went to work the next morning and told everyone that they need to watch it too. Brilliant film!! 💕
We’re here because
we're here because
We’re here.
We're here because
we're here because
We're here because
I appreciate the honest snippet at the end of the video
Just like art, the weather is subjective. I LOVE the rain ❤
just saw the movie and i cried the entire way through. The book is one of mine and my sister's favorite and the movie felt like everything i have ever felt put on a screen. Daisy's monologue in the end was so well acted out and aaaaaaaah
I’m in awe any time a movie, or a book, or poem elicits a big emotional reaction from me. Look what this artist did.. look at how you are FEELING. John, your book, your movie, it captured Aza’s Mom’s journey and an aspect of Aza’s journey that I couldn’t understand. But there it was. It demanded to be felt, to be witnessed. That window was very hard to look through for me. A true piece of art. Congratulations!
I've seen this book all throughout my growing up -- I remember being charmed by the title but then trying to read it when I was 13, and I just couldn't get into it.
I read it last year going through one of those trialing periods of one's life, where everything is changing and I am looking for the one thing that is staying still, and this book really reached me like a mother's hug.
It's really so fascinating to me how this book has traveled through time with my conscious. So much of my life keeps coming back to Nerdfighteria and it's one of the most special things to me, thank you so much.
I never knew that "step and repeat" was what those were called, thanks, John!
I feel the greatest part of being an artist is seeing someone visibly affected by my work.
I often show my work at art fairs and festivals so I’m around when people see it. Most people seem to like it. But it just connects to a smaller number of people in a much deeper way. I live for those moments. It makes the time, fear and self doubt worth pushing through.
I can’t imagine what that must feel like on such a scale you have experienced as someone making art that is read and watched by millions of people, but I’m happy for you.
The Anthropocene Reviewed struck me on a deeper level. It reminded me that everything in the world, no matter how common, can be examined and appreciated. Thank you for that.
This is the unspoken secret about so much more than art. I hear this as 'we need connection' and 'it can be surprising when we notice that our needs for connection are/can be fully met'.
I was so extremely moved when watching the movie. Most of all by hearing Aza say stuff I've heard John say for years... It felt like such a window into John's mind and into John's pain. I cried while watching it. I cried with John.
Thanks John for helping so many people!
It's been years since the last time I was gently falling asleep at night, and then it's as if I blink and suddenly it's morning, and I'm not tired but I am startled and confused.
The transition from The Format to a regular video reminded me of what that felt like.
loved the analogy
John I love what you invested in the entire project. Book, personal time, movie, and promotion. Not easy for you
Love the step and repeat gag.
A reminder that ok art received generously can become great art. -John
The pure energy and delight on John's face and in his voice when he was talking about the effort of the step and repeat joke had such Hank vibes, and that's how I know John was having fun with it
The ad I got right before this video was of John Green himself. That’s never happened before! I hit Skip out of reflex when I actually wanted to watch the whole thing
I saw you on MSNBC today, you were SO GOOD! And I loved the Cancer Socks!
John the movie was so good. Still a little teary. I’ve been watching these videos and listening to your and hanks podcast for like 8 years (I am 22 so that is a big big number percentage wise) and I’ve never felt so part of a community while watching a movie alone in my room. I’ve been struggling with my brain and I saw so many things I recognized while watching.
I think the last time I experienced this co-mingling was reading the end of Becky Chambers’ A Psalm For The Wild Built. I felt so seen by that ending.
I can’t wait to get to see Turtles. I’m in the UK, so I have to wait a little longer.
Hello,
I wanted to thank you for writing Turtle All the Way Down. I just watched the movie and have never cried and related more with a film. I have struggled with OCD for 15 years and I am very grateful to know that I am not alone. I feel seen and from now on I will point people who ask me what it is like to have OCD to this movie. So thank you.
A simple yet profound point. Thank you for sharing this, more people need to realise that well reception of an art is two ways and not just one. So many art pieces in the past were ignored but after time when people gave them a chance they were well recieved
I got a pre-roll ad with John Green talking about addressing OCD and it took me longer than I care to admit before I realized it wasn't this actual video.
John is buying CZcams ads?
This is true it’s always nice to try and give the reminder that someone else poured themselves into a piece of art and you should be gentle with that.
Hi! I have a fine arts degree and do nothing with it. Then I watched your video "Minus its Charms" and it inspired me so much! You really nailed it! I still haven't made the piece I see in my head, but I really hope I do. I'm enjoying reading Turtles All the Way Down, really identify with the OCD overthinking spiral. Thank you for being such an generous guy, John :) (somehow I commented this on the other video earlier lol oops)
John, I can't describe how excited I am to watch this film- I have read the book a billion times and it makes me so excited to know that it truly will be amazing, even if I have to fall ill to the terrible curse called the UK and watch it over 20 days later than the rest of the planet. I am SO FREAKING EXCITED to finally be represented in an amazing piece of art made by you and the hundreds of people behind this film
I cried a little when I saw Rosiana Halse Rojas as an Executive Producer…. what the heck… we were just a bunch of nerds that follow some internet brothers….. is this the timeline we are on? Congratulations 🎉 I loved the movie
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I guess this timeline isn't alllll bad
Its awsome (don't forget to be) to see how you take the thing that your brain spawned into a book, being spawned into a movie, and letting the creation take its place in hearts and minds. Proud and humbled. (awesome)
Thank you for making me feel seen and understood in some sense. Love you John.
For some strange reason, this video gives me hope, peace, and understanding of overwhelming experience of creating art
John, thank you so much for Turtles. I'm about to turn 27 and I've just started OCD treatment for the first time in my life. It's been a terrifying and isolating experience and the movie couldn't have come at a better time. Even though I can't go back and give my teenage self what she needed when she was undiagnosed, it was incredibly healing to see Aza go through something so similar and watch the people in her life continue to love her and care for her through her illness. I'm still scared but I feel less alone.
The book and movie are so good. I just keep crying. Happy tears, sad tears, tears of feeling seen and felt, tears of nostalgia, of longing. So many feels. Thank you for art.
I haven’t seen the movie but the ad for it was deeply profound.
“You are not what you think”.
I think that phrase alone is so important for a lot of people to hear and understand. I think everyone thinks things they don’t like and those things could bring a person down. I’ve struggled with it before and had to realize I’m the person I put out into the world out of all the possibilities within me. That brought me a lot of peace. Hearing it summed up so beautifully really hit me.
look, no matter how good the bit was, something i deeply, deeply appreciate and look up to and envy in good artists is the willingness to make bad art, too. turns out that being scared of mistakes is antithetical to making art, bc making art is taking a risk. who'd've guessed?
thank you for the vulnerability you share with us. the bit might not have been great, but you are.
As a person who regularly appears as a photographer on those step and repeat sections of red carpets, I can confirm that your bit was accurate and funny, and not only did I appreciate it, I also laughed. 😊
I'm about to watch your movie on HBO. I'm excited, brotha. Everything you make is gold
I liked the bit. Mad props for getting both of you to sync up.
"all bad poetry is sincere" is a quote I will never forget!
As a Pacific Northwesterner, I think that weather looks perfect.
I love how John refers to Nerdfighteria like it’s some strange benevolent god
getting two videos in one is my new favorite kind of vlogbrothers video
especially when one of those videos is done in the Format
The book was very meaningful for me and my daughter’s relationship to each other . Thank you for making it..
I read Turtles all the way down last year and loved it! Can't wait to watch the movie when I return home from Korea this summer
I loved the movie, it was so heart warming and felt real. The soundtrack is also fantastic. Congratulations 💜
I know the rain can be hard, it makes going outside a challenge, but I love the smell and the sound and that I don’t have to go out and water my plants. I live in PNW so it’s good I feel that way I guess.
Tl;dr Rain = good weather
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And for those of us with intense winters, it's a sign of spring. I love those first rains so much.
Weather is, like many things, a matter of perspective. My little brother once observed that a rainy day was "a good day for ducks!"
You are such a lovely person, John. You always make me appreciate the world and people in it a little bit more than I did before. Thank you.
John, the Turtles All The Way Down movie was phenomenal. I cried for a full hour. The acting was so fantastic. I TRULY felt for Aza and loved her friendship with Daisy. The story came to life so perfectly. 10/10. Amazing.
We love The Format
Thanks, I love it too. I love it so much I spent three hours building a step and repeat! -John
@@vlogbrothers THREE HOURS??
@@vlogbrothers I’m so proud!
Going from format to normal video is a level of emotional whiplash I wasn't ready for today
John! I watched the movie this past weekend and I just loved it. I could fully feel all the care and love and attention that went into it. ❤
Not me AGAIN crying about one of John's videos.
Saying return to a regular video and then having it be 4 mins exactly feels just right
It really does. ^^
It's just such a GOOD MOVIE and also a GREAT ADAPTATION of the book, i loved it so much
It's strange how I last really watched vlog brothers during the signing of turtles all the way down, with the board of turtles still making me chuckle. And I still wear my Piza top in all its faded glory. It's strange how I still feel like part of this community but am barely an observer.
Welcome back, Nerdfighter!
John, Turtles All The Way Down (the movie) had me balling my eyes out. It’s such a wonderful story beautifully translated to screen. You and the team should be very proud
(and thank you, I know the film is helping me and my friends)
I tried to watch Turtles All the Way Down with my mom the other night, but she kept falling asleep and barely made it to the Applebees scene, which was just killing me, because, from just that little bit that I've seen so far, I was feeling incredibly seen, but she... literally wasn't seeing it.
sharing is hard, ya'll can try again on a less sleepy day
Haven't watched it yet, but thank you in advance for making the film under 2 hours. I wish I had more time for art.
There's a portrait of Rubens Peale by his brother Rembrandt Peale that epitomizes this, for me. Rubens was the family scientist; he opened the earliest U.S. museums later in his life. In this portrait, he's 17 and showing off his prized geranium -- the earliest documented geranium in the U.S.
Every time I go to the National Gallery of Art in DC, I stop by it for a moment because I feel like I can see how much the brothers loved their work and each other.
The Rax cup in the background goes hard. I didn't notice it when it was out of focus.
Nice!
John, thank you for a great book. I really love the movie❤
I got an advertisement with unpaid Intern John Green NOT advertising for coffee, but in fact and online OCD treatment program. Good job, intern John!
Oh Hooray! I'm so happy the movie is doing so well! ❤❤❤❤❤
I think both the book and the film versions of Turtles All the Way Down are really good-if not great-art, but I cannot judge them without bias because to me they are what the spiral painting is to Aza: TATWD immediately pulls me in and _gets_ me in a way I haven't felt before.
I bawled reading the book because it was the first time I'd seen the dialectic between mental disease/disorder and the idea of the self and the internal battle with the question of "How could I be *more* myself without this? Medication seems to help me be who I want to be, but it also must be making me not me because it's changing me."
At the time, I was dealing the me/not-me-ness of bipolar disorder and I really felt that "I wasn't possessed by a demon. I was the demon." Six years later, my bipolar symptoms are entirely managed but I'm dealing with the same thing (to a lesser extent) with the revelation that I'm autistic and the effects of that growing larger as my depression and hypomania have disappeared. Autism doesn't feel like a demon but damn, sometimes I would kill for a brain that's "normal."
John, I don't know if you can fully grasp how much this story means to so many people because ultimately we're all a little bit unknowable, but I hope you do.
This video is where I first learned about Turtles All the Way Down!
Love love love the format!
Just watched Turtles All the Way Down last night and I wanted to compliment the soundtrack! Excellent music throughout the film.
John I'm confident your viewers are meeting you halfway on the step & repeat gag!!
In my Film 102 class at university we talked about how many people and how much time are involved in even a bad movie and it really changed my perspective. It takes a lot of love to make bad art.
I liked the step and repeat, John.
This is beautiful ❤ I'm beginning to admire you even more 😊
Thank you for indulging, if only slightly, in the format.
Didn't know how much I needed to hear all of those sentences!