Umarex Air Saber Review (Frustrating and Unreliable!)
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- We take a deep dive into the Umarex Air Saber, and discuss our highs and lows with it.
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Never had a problem with mine. It’s amazing.
what about noise? how does it sounds? a .410 shot or moore like a ,22 ? i am planing to get one soon....
@@user-fr5rs6ku5l 22ish. Inatead of an explosive crack, its more of an explosive pshhhh. Lol
Umarex told me that the arrow insert problem has been corrected. It was only on the earlier arrows and is no longer a problem. I hope that’s true. I ordered an AirSaber and it should be delivered in a couple weeks. Thanks
Thanks Chris.. We are testing ours this weekend!
Appreciate the honest review. Not just a advertisement video like the rest
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That sucks. I was excited to find these things are legal in Canada without a PAL but if they aren't reliable that's a huge deal breaker.
same. I aordered mine the other day before seeing this vid. Hopefully it doesn’t fail me.
The rifle is very good. Read my comment above and make your own arrows to solve the issue that
Umarex should have already corrected. The arrows need better inserts for glue adhesion.
Now I know why NATCHEZ Shooters Supply is selling them now for $308.99! Thanks for sharing this important information.
The same thing happened to my air saber the first time I shot it. It blew the head and silver ring off of the shaft. I called umarex and they told me to use silicone chamber oil and oil the air tube rings and the rear end of the shaft
Your tripping. My airsaber is better than any pcp Iv owned at half the price. Thing is amazing!
Mike, We are very glad you like yours. The one we purchased may have been a bad lot. We are not giving up on it though. It will be out with us this turkey season for a 3rd chance.
@@DirtNapBrosget a new one, try the elite x2
Hey guys great video! Hey! Where did you get that awesome looking tripod that your air saber is mounted to ?
You all must have had some bad luck, as im disabled and got one for me and some other people that became disabled and they loved it to hunt with, no issues at all. This is not me talking down or bad about you guys but could it be user Era?
This is what I am thinking
Not Sure it was user error. We followed the manufactures instructions very closely, and we have heard of others that had the same issues. Maybe it was a bad lot. 🤷♂️ ... Thanks for the comment! We hope you had a great season!
They are the dirtcrap bros
Your rather creative! Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to comment!
Same issue. First fire sounded like a .410. the practice head made it to just above target. The rest of the arrow embedded into the mud 30' in front of me. If the silicone lube works? This weapon is a beast
Not to throw shade but, the fact that you took the time to do this video but clearly have taken no time to research pcp airguns and you greatly lack understanding of operation of how the unit operates and misdiagnosed the airbolt failure as an issue with the rifle, the “metal piece the broadhead screws into” is an aluminum insert which is glued into the shaft. They are cheap arrows, it came out and no air was diverted through the rear of the arrow back into the barrel shroud causing the entirety of air to be directed out in front. That’s why it was loud. You can’t give a good honest review if you have no knowledge of the product. No hate here guys honestly but do some research and come back with an update. Mine has been incredible and was made even better by building my own bolts. It is certainly not a good pcp air rifle to buy as your first and without a tank or compressor of your own.
We are glad you enjoy yours! Thanks for the comment!
well the leaky tank was bad......the blown arrow though that was just the insert blowing out of the shaft (the "smoke" escaping air) shoot a few dozen......should be good to go
I was having the same issue with the point inserts blowing off. Was never able to get more than 4 shots from one arrow and some failed on the first shot. My solution was to switch to the Hatsan air bow arrows. Their air bow is much more powerful than ours and the arrows seem to be built for it. I have had no issue with any of the Hatsan arrows and as a side benefit they are heavier if you are using your air sabre for hunting. My rifle has been flawless and I really like it, but the Umarex arrows just would not work for me.
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It doesn't sound like the issue is the airsaber itself but the arrows they sell for them. Is there another manufacturer for the arrows other then umarex brand
I got my Airsaber mid-summer '22. Accuracy, supported, was about 8" at 30 yards. Not good. I'm shocked your trigger is so good. Mine has about 5/8" of very rough travel before the bow goes off, which is a factor in the accuracy. Before I shot it for the first time I noticed the center launch tube was not concentric with the outer tube - by a LOT.
I researched and found it's not uncommon, and the "fix" is to remove the outer tube and to bend the inner flight tube with your fingers and keep trying the outer tube until it looks right! For something that costs so much, this is NOT acceptable that something has to be bent right out of the box!
I regret the purchase.
Bought one, charged it to 3250, it blew the tip off all 3 arrows shipped with it lol.. Maybe need to grease the cylinder after shipping but man this thing is way too much work for what it is. Better off buying a crossbow at the same pricerange imo.
We agree! But we’re not giving up! We will be testing it more.
@@DirtNapBros I much prefer over crossbow. The problem is in the inserts. A simple problem for Umarex to fix. And ez for those who build their own arrows.
The whole idea of this is an inline bow you're not trucking through the woods with strings or limbs so the quiver I ordered with picatinny rail blocks had it mounting adjacent to the gun instead of parallel I took the top locking mount flipped it parallel drilled two new holes in tap them out and it's perfect
So because of a possible defective arrow you scrapped using it again? I suppose if you have a jam in your rifle or pistol you also never fire it again?
We have not given up. Stay tuned to to how we plan on using it during the upcoming turkey season!
Accurate, kills game great. I can leave it charged all year with no problems. Out of nine arrows, I still have seven. One was stuck in wood and broke, and the other busted a bucks shoulder, before zinging off into the woods somewhere. The only broadhead that can be trusted, is the NAP Spitfire crossbow head. The other broadheads will fail. Nothing hit with the Spitfires has been any trouble to recover.
You used a used arrow and the wrong broadhead.
Cautions. Buy a very good target, since even most 400 fps targets will not keep the arrows from penetrating past the vanes. Also, use multiple spot targets, unless you want to hit your own arrows.
As of now, nothing you say has any validity at all, unless I see you write something that mirrors reality.
What model spitfire are you speaking of?
Your opinion is way off on the umerax airsaber! I’m not sure your content is reliable!
Mike, we are sorry you feel that way. We only post our opinion which is formed by using the gear we purchase. We are frustrated by the Air Sabers performance and even more upset about the lack of response from Umarex. As I stated in the last response to you.. we will not give up on it. We will be taking it out on a few turkey hunts and we will be shooting it more. We appreciate your comment. Please make sure to Subscribe and hit the Bell Icon so you can be notified when we upload a new video. Remember, If your sitting on your couch..... you can't be dishing out dirt naps!
I bought the traditions crackshot xbr, shoots arrow but no air tank required,. I have killed 2 does and 1 buck. with it so far and will take it hunting this year and add another. Also it is also louder then what they advertise, like a loud clap in the video, nope sounds like a 22 just like you said.
Wow I was looking at them but now I’m unsure bc of the Customer service you received
To be fair.... They did fix the issue.. It just took a while. Thanks for watching. Please like and follow it really helps us out.
My experience is great! Many of Hogs and Deer have fallen due to it! Where i put crosshairs,it hits right on out to 60 yards. Wish I could post a pic of my deep freezer!
I wish you could too! We’re glad you love your! We are going to be bringing it out on a few turkey hunts this season. We are not giving up on it!!
are you sure youre not sponsored directly by umarex like the rest of the reviews on youtube and also completely full of crap? :P
If we are were missing out! HAHA! No sponsors here, just honest review of things we use! We took the Air Saber back out but didn't have an opportunity to test. Thanks for the comment! Please give us a follow it would really help us out.
@@DirtNapBros Im not happy to report. But,after the start of my 3rd deer season I have had a problem. It is leaking from fill port. Called customer service 5 times and straight to answering machine. Emailed them an havent got a reply yet. I just need to know oring size is. So, hope fully they reply soon.
@@northtexasairgunhunter3990 we’re sorry to hear that! Hopefully they get back to you soon! We’re still hoping to get a shot off with ours… just need the deer to cooperate!
Check out the newest one they've made. It's pretty sweet, holds 2 arrows and pushes them both at 450+
Doesn’t seem to reliable for hunting and the lack of customer service and warranty are all I need to know to not throw away my money by going down this road.
Your lack of confidence in your shooting says less about your weapon and more about your technique. Oil the tip of your cartridge to stop c
Leaks cold.
I know this is a two-year video, but you need to change your battery in your fire protection
The Broadhead that you were using by interlock is called the shapeshifter I have used them out of my Ravin crossbow and they work perfectly there was nothing wrong with your Broadhead and they fly like a field tip and my crossbow shoots them at 409 fps
We have heard that there may have been a bad batch of bolts. We won't give up on it yet! We will be testing it our this season. Thanks for watching please make sure to subscribe and like.
@@DirtNapBros They will be unreliable until the inserts are much longer and deeply grooved (assuming good epoxy is used). Make your own arrows with other shafts, vanes and inserts; the size is .300 diameter bolts and many crossbows use them from vapors companies.
Hmm weird. I have put hundreds of arrows through mine and no issues.
these people are not experts. they judge a product line by 1 example is pure amateurish. my saber is awesome, fast, and accurate. ignorant review.
Correct! We are not experts, we never claimed to be. Just honest customers providing OUR honest reviews based on personal experience. We are so glad you have had a different experience with your saber! Thanks for watching.
With nonfunctional arrows, you've got nothing working practically speaking! Umarex has hurt themselves with this fiasco despite have an impressive rifle (hope they read all the suggestions - btw, in speaking to their service department the person there told me, "we don't want suggestions!" probably exasperated with handling arrow inserts problems aplenty!).
@@davida.4933 I've never had a problem. maybe you got a bad batch of arrows. you could always pull the caps off and reglue them. ADAPT, IMPROVISE, OVERCOME. when spam hits the fan that will be all you have. might as well start now for proficiency. complaining never solves anything, being a team player moves mountains. SEMPER FI!!!
The power is blowing the end cap off...they need a longer insert that is grooved so the epoxy holds better and the type of epoxy is important. This is a potential problem with other airguns as well. Arguably the arrows need an offset twist on the vanes for broadhead accuracy.
Most importantly, the gun should be tapped for a rifle sling! I think the whole gun is a bit long and could be shortened a few inches. Yes, I know that reduces power somewhat, but these guns are extremely high powered already. I shoot 260 fps. in another arrow gun and the penetration in deer with a 3 blade cut on impact broadhead is phenomenal.
I do agree with the criticism of a safety near the trigger. Why not make the stock more conventional? Not a particular fan of radical stocks. It would be great to have a regulated valve for additional consistency between shots. The first 3-5 shots at least need to be nearly identical. I have taken 4 deer with various arrow guns so have some experience with these issues. Bigger future if they implement these common sense
suggestions vs. making twin barrel variants, etc IMHO.
Thanks for the comment! We agree with you on all your suggestions. Although ours does have a spot for a sling.
@@DirtNapBros You are correct it is tapped for rifle sling. The main complaint is the arrows.
Now, if you make your own arrows, you can solve the issue of the inserts blowing out. Just get .300 crossbow bolts and the brass Goldtip inserts for these.. I rough the these inserts with a file so the epoxy grips them better to the shafts. I also reduced power somewhat. But, really the inserts are still shorter than I would like to feel confident they won't bow out. What's the big deal with Umarex providing such a short insert on their arrows? Make 'em 3" long and deeply grooved and they won't blow out. Umarex should have the option of selling the arrow components like many companies do. Anyway, it's all solvable if you have experience in making arrows, but the problem undoubtedly hasn't helped Umarex despite making an impressive rifle.
Obviously you must have gotten one that quality control missed. Mine never leaked. Always cock the gun the first time you fill it and each time. Otherwise air will leak.
I use two bladed broad heads and heavier than 100 grains. Yes you will have to sight in higher, but flight Characteristics and penetration is better.
So many people have used this rifle with great success. I don't no what else to tell you.
Do you have a link to the high pressure hand pump on Amazon? Thanks
ALL THE OTHER VIDS ON THIS WEAPON ARE FINE, YOU JUST GOT A LEMON .
Seems that way!
Then you need to shoot him in the vitals. Ive been outfitting my entire adult life. Over 30 years. I specialized in bear and deer hunting. Also some coyote hunting in the winter time. 4 out of 5 of your complaints were operator issues. What i mean by that is you can correct every issue by caring and maintaining it like your other bows and firearms.
Dang...My G1 Gauntlet is the most reliable PCP I've ever owned.
We had high hopes for true AirSabre.
Do you guys know anything about broadband tuning or archer's paradox? I'm sure I could find a broadhead that would shoot out of it! If it shoots when you pull the trigger, a good archery tech can make it shoot!
We are going to be doing more testing in the coming season. We are familiar with Archer's paradox and broached and bow tuning. the issue was that it blew the broad head off the bolt. No tuning will work if the broad head is blown off. HAHA. We want to try different broad heads and see how they work. We also want to implement some of the fixes described in the other comments and give it a third chance. Thank you very much for your comment. Please follow and share!
I would guess there’s no archer paradox associated with this air bow since the bolt is being pushed from the front, not the rear.
@@billjones7841 this is correct. You are propelling the head with air, and the fletching steers it utilizing leverage from the shafting. Any flexing of the shafting is consistent around the circumference, part of the reason why poorly attached inserts will come loose.
"I can't handle the truth"!
try some 2 part epoxy, J B weld etc, too much pressure for heat glue gun....😮
I'm sorry for your bad experiences luckily I guess I got one of the better rifles....the arrows on the other hand a different story (also hard to find) don't give up its deff a killer !
We’re testing it again now! It’s been out in a few hunts!
Update after a few emails I not only got my arrows replaced but they sent me another rifle! Also I found that the hawk-i arrows work well with the air sabre! There are some small differences so you basically have to sight the rifle in for those arrows ( I know kinda a duh statement) but hey I have two rifles now so what the hell
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We agree!!
I know pioneer airbow uses different diameter shafts....typical proprietary B.S......
They had a batch of arrows back then that weren’t up to standard but that’s all straight now. I’ve taken dozens of big game animals with one. Just took a Cape buffalo last month. If the issues weren’t fixed I sure wouldn’t be standing in front of a Cape buffalo with it.
They make a tougher arrow now with the production of the airsaber elite 2 and the javelin pro.
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Sourced this vid because of all this
I just killed my 5th deer with my airsabre. Sorry your experience didn’t pan out.
That’s ok! We’re re-testing it this season!!
I’m getting 390 fps full charge not the advertised 450
Have you reached out to Umerex? they still have not responded to our email.
@@DirtNapBros yes. They said they only had a couple of the earlier ones hit 400. Should have done my homework.
Scope off sight shoot too low and the piece of crap bolt wont cock back
Dirtnap bros!!....I love it man!! Strange music y'all be listing to up in them hills these days....lol!!
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@@DirtNapBros probably went to the Britney Griner homecoming in his prius. What a jerk
@@dongfloppin22 that one made me literally LOL! Unfortunately for us.. we were too busy fishing out dirt naps! Thanks for the comments! Please give us a follow it would really help us out and allow for us to continue to allow us to get out of the city. 🤪🤣
@@DirtNapBros i use to go fishing with my grandfather when I was a kid. He would get drunk until he couldn't walk and let me drive the boat.
Umarex had a bad batchof arrows and a new it but because they wanted to sell those guns for Christmas they let those arrows go out to the public some of them wouldn't even fit over the shaft they tell you to use silicone lube which is hard to find they should have put a little bit in the Box that doesn't make any sense that they didn't. You'll have much better luck if you cut those straight fletchings off and refletch them with 2in helical Fletching that will spin the arrow and make those broadheads fly true. Hard to shoot the gun freehand without a rest because the trigger has so much creep. The gun shoots most consistently at 3000 to 3300 PSI. Problem is if you filled a gun in the house at 70degrees and then take it out in the field at 30° PSI can change over 300 PSI. When people are shooting that gun on the videos there shooting it off of a big tank which gives them a consistent PSI that's not the case when you're shooting the gun with just the gun filled because the gun is not regulated. My scope mounts would not tighten on the rail and had to be shimmed. Benjamin advertising 4500fps with a regulated 2000psi gun makes u wonder. This air saber is not a very reliable all weather hunting gun.
Oh billy
imagine that, air pressure changes with temperature.... I guess this genius has never worked with pneumatic tires before lol. The velocity runs in a bell-curve on unregulated guns, it's always changing. You just have to identify the plateaus where you get several shots of similar velocity together.
Silicone oil/dry films/grease is widely available, a simple google search would yield many options, including many local shops (it's used for a lot of things).
helical fletching has repeatedly been found to not help dart accuracy in any significant way in dart guns (in bows, it helps for the first 10m in managing archer's paradox (not an issue with these)), and has been found to seriously hinder velocity at range due to unnecessary drag (even in bows).
Mass produced Air guns in general have abysmal triggers, the springs have to be stronger than firearm springs in order to overcome the pressure in the reservoir, and the companies don't take the time to refine the sear engagement before sending them out the door... "they're toys, after all" (common sentiment that's even shared by many of the companies making them). Simple fix: take the gun apart and fix the trigger. Files and sandpaper. Even with the stock trigger, it's no worse than the vast majority of crossbow triggers, which have to hold back substantially more force and have considerably more sear engagement (yet people shoot those just fine off hand)
On the scope needing to be shimmed, were you using picatinny/weaver mounts? if so, there shouldn't have been an issue.
Agreed, a 4500 psi fill with a 2-3000 psi regulated pressure (preferably an adjustable regulator) and a 2 cubic inch plenum would have been better.
Actually.... I worked at a Custom paintball gun CNC/manufacture called JmJ concepts making the highest grade customs paintball guns for consumers. So I know ho pneumatic works how airguns work. As for the manufactures think they are making toys.... It is a bit sad that this is the sentiment. Thank you for the comment!!
@@wildrangeringreen Good points. It's the small things that make all the difference! Wouldn't cost more than $20/gun to perfect this product and virtually zip to have longer and better arrow inserts. Fantastic potential, why do companies (and Umarex is far from the only one) try to take short cuts that only reduce their eventual profits?
Huh..
Exactly!
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You guys are not good. Don't quit your wal mart and Tractor supply jobs