RIPPED-OFF on Ebay AGAIN! - Intel "Black Ops" CPU
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This is one of the most FABLED CPUs in Intel's line-up... and I finally got my hands on 2 of them. Was it worth the hassle?
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Can't wait for the Modern Warfare CPU.
A cpu which can run the game with rtx on igpu.
i approve of this comment
😂😂😂😂
Which modern warfare? COD 4, MW remastered or garbage.
Hi Nathorix :)
Ahh yes, Razer Synapse showing up even before Windows is installed. Classic razer software.
I have a logitech mouse, corsair keyboard and razer mousepad. Guess what drivers I was asked to install when reinstalling windows.
Mine does not open...
@@mattynotfatty kingston?
@@mattynotfatty Intel? Kappa
@@mattynotfatty Windows?
Plot twist: Razer Synapse was "stealing" the missing 14% CPU usage capacity for crypto mining.
Comedy Gold
I don't think thats much of a plot twist...
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Linus: *buys offbrand products from Ebay*
Product: *runs perfectly fine*
Linus: why are you running?
underrated 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
I've been ripped off!!! it wasn't supposed to run!
It wasn't properly working though....
Utilization is due to lack of microcode for the CPU. I had the same issue with the X5470 modded into a LGA 775 socket. Microcode updated and problem went away.
EDIT: The Microcode needed would need to be given to LTT by intel, as the microcode for this CPU was never actually released. For those who don't know, a BIOS file contains several microcodes for various CPUs that allow the motherboard to communicate properly with the CPU. If it's missing, the Motherboard will do it's best to utilize it, but such as this case, it doesn't know how to use 6 cores.
This x2, when I was in the middle of installing my E5450 into an ASUS P5Q Pro, it wouldn't even go past POST, but it was able to get into BIOS setup, and I was able to fix that problem by flashing it to a modified version of the latest BIOS using ASUS EzFlash 2 (believe it was called), which definitely confirms two things.
One, that its a microcode issue.
Two, each motherboard may have different effects or reactions to a CPU that is not found in the microcode for said motherboard's BIOS.
Where did you get the right microcode for the X5470? I'm experiencing the same problem with mine, utilization is always stucks at 91%.
Ah yees good old memories.
Had hacked myself 775 MOBO and Xeon X5450 CPU for my first ever self-built gaming PC when I was a kid and had very little money that I had earned myself.
@@aswa121235 like y-fu stated you have to flash motherboards latest bios
@@aswa121235 here:
www.delidded.com/lga-771-xeon-microcode/
There's one intel engineer watching this, laughing his head off because he knows this chip's little secrets that ware causing you problems.
Not the engineer but... 7:27, he's staring at the exact ASUS BIOS he needed to be on. ASUS was famous (or infamous if you're Intel) for shipping indev microcode packages with certain BIOS revisions. His first thought upon seeing the correct voltage was to immediately update.
"This is less about making a video and satisfying my own curiosity." Isn't that what we're all here to watch?
they the best sort of videos.
Lika my noots peggle porker
Honti
1.6 voltage and idling at 70c on water... linus is preparing for intel's 10th gen 10 core launch, uh?
Matt J. Dylan big oof
Jokes on you leaked 11th gen does 98°C with AIO and 250W without overclocking
@@hdjdco5428 shiiieet XD
Hopefully 12th gen will be better.
@@wta1518 yeah, but we said the same about 11th gen lol it's likely within a 2 or 3 gens for intel to be competitive again tho
The thumbnail makes Linus kind of look like he has a mustache, lol.
lmao
Was just about to comment that..
And trimmed down haircut on left side
Thought he was one of the dudes from funhaus
Imagine Linus with a moustache.. he'll look less lesbian
The old saying "Curiosity Killed The Cat" could be changed to "Ebay Killed Linus"
Your profile picture reminds me of something but I don't know what exactly, If I may ask what does your profile picture depict?
But satisfaction brought it back
@@speedylordinc.3748 Marvin the Paranoid android from the movie adaptation of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe
“How are we at 44 degrees!?”
Right at that moment my pc fans went to 100%
Stock trading companies 6 years ago:
"Hot water heater? Nah, we just use our stock trading machines."
What's super funny is stock trading companies still buy the closest room they can to the stock trading servers, and the most expensive are rooms just on the other side of the wall with an ETHERNET connection to the server, and the shorter your cable the better it is for you.
Stock trading company? A brokerage firm?
Stock trading machines? A computer?
Holds up the USB plug:
How the f*ck did I get into the BIOS?!
I'm dying 😂
Wireless USB is real!!!
Chinese motherboard, that's how.
C'mon,Linus,buy one of single socket 2011 Chinese motherboard !!!!!
No boot drive found, so it went to BIOS, a lot of boards do that.
Max P. *Xfiles theme*
TheBackyardChemist I think it was just a mind fuck
"How are we at 44 degrees?! We're not even doing anything!" Me - *laughs in florida heat while also idling at 40c*
lol same with i7700k and it`s 17c where i`m at now
Same here in Aussie....
Aeriant my ryzen 2600 idles at 45ish but doesn’t go above 65 under load so I just try to ignore the problem.
It's 23° C in Miami... That's not hot
Mans not hot
W'e're going to need episode 2 of this, when you bother the motherboard OEM's and intel for tips on how to get this running
"This is the problem with trouble shooting, there is always something else to try" 👌🤣
title: "RIPPED OFF on ebay AGAIN!"
linus in video: *super happy* "its real!"
youre just setting me up to be sad
but it ain't 4.6
@@MiniRockerz4ever But it aint the CPU's problem
I can’t wait for eBay to stop letting Linus smear them with fake titles and take him to court & shut his entire channel down. This weasel Linus has been falsely smearing decent people & companies for years. Karma
@@DonZenOfficial ok boomer
@@DonZenOfficial Try not to cut yourself on all that edge.
"Overclock to its stock speed"
Yeah
I hate it when mine does that!
Don't buy something "Black Ops" while you can't do Black Ops.
@@RJT80 True!
Legit had to do with an old Athlon mobo running an AthlonXP. If it wasn't overclocked from it's detected settings, the BIOS wouldn't see the CPU as an AthlonXP 2000+... it was WEIRD.
So what was the "rip off?" It looks like you got exactly what they advertized, but just didn't have the hardware to actually use it on your end. Can't blame the seller for that.
Clickbait my dude
We found the seller...
@@aibandidos What, me? Nah. I haven't even bought something off ebay this century, and never have sold there.
@@dialNforNinja it was a joke, dude.
@@dialNforNinja Bro, send me a link to your Ebay store I want to order some blackops Intel processors man. >:(
This video title is one step too far to clickbait. I’m fine with playful titles but there was no scam here.
Yes. That’s really the one thing I hate about ltt they have a big enough fan base that will watch their vids regardless of title. So why do it? Maybe since everyone skips his ads they get us back with bad titles
@@robertandrews6915 loyal fan bases are great, but you need fresh subscribers to survive long term. Even the most loyal fans get bored and move on eventually.
i would argue its mostly fine, at least with the current title. it says "ripped off" and linus mentioned that the chip isn't a good value even if it worked as intended, which it didnt. not the best title but i dont think it reaches the average clickbait levels
@@robertandrews6915 I might be wrong but I think it helps him get on trending and recommend and such
I think it is somewhat at least since it didn't get to 100% utilization
"this has become less about making a video and more about satisfying my own personal curiosities" ... Linus, that's why we started watching your channel in the first place brosef. We always enjoyed the latter of the two.
It's better when he goes a bit crazy like this
Linus does what we would like to do ourselves, but he has money and knowledge to do it
True story bro. Farmed out content is boring.
Same. More experiments Linus!
Why I love LTT, Linus is actually a huge nerd and not some tech bro who knows nothing about PCs.
"Who would need this much thermal compound?" ........The Verge.
That's what I expected, and I think that was the joke
Dammit I was 2 hours too late for my joke, I suppose it was pretty low hanging fruit so I clearly wasn't the only one thinking about this joke
Stolen comment
@@loreaver3882 almost every "joke comment" is so copy pasta it's not even funny anymore.
Stop it please, it's already dead.
Windows: *initializing devices*
Synapse: so you've chosen death?
Thank you for showing us this process. I am newer to the channel and I love it. I was one of the kids that they tested computers on in a school district almost 40 years ago. And I remember teaching myself than my parents how to use the computer. No one knew how or what to do and that was the best way for me to learn. So seeing y’all do what your doing makes me so happy to see I wasn’t the only one who liked taking things apart just to find out how it worked and then putting together again in my own way to see exactly why things do what they do and what else they could do!
Linus: This thing is warm! It's idling at 60C°!
Me: First time?
@Carl 2010 cpu w/ stock cooler and stock thermal paste + ~30-35°C room temperature is hella of a reason
@Carl You're right, money is
@Carl it has a reason, high ambient temperature, my pc was hot before it was turn on, now that's something u can't change
My acer aspire c24-760 idles at around around 75C at 3 WATTS! My old PC that ISN'T an all in one has a 95w processor (quad q9300) and it still manages to get the IDLE temperatures of the acer aspire c24-760 under load! I dont get it.
I keep hearing “lttstore.com” in my dreams
That was his intention/plan all along...
AscendingApsolut subliminal messaging at its finest
"IT'S REAL!"
*looks at title*
Uh huh.
I CREATED IT , AND ITS REAL!
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He never mentions in the video it was a scam though.
@@Kulade it wasn't a scam he just doesn't have the hardware for it
lol 10 exactly that’s what I meant
X79 is so insanely buggy... And yes I said "is" I still run my EVGA X79 Classified as my main rig.
Are you talking about early Linux & Hypervisor (XEN etc.) support or which bug in particular? I'm still running my ASUS Sabertooth x79 @ work, no issues whatsoever that I'd pin on the chipset. I still really like the platform...
I have the same motherboard but it's the FTW edition, and whenever I put it into sleep mode it starts a nuclear war :(
“I didn’t plug in a boot drive” well that’s how you got into bios
don't mind me, just here to make note of the original title before it's likely changed (again)
OG title, 1 minute into posting: "RIPPED-OFF on Ebay AGAIN! - Intel "Black Ops" CPU"
I bet it'll change
still the same 2 min later
Lol
The OG OG Name on Floatplane is "Why do I keep buying CPUs on Ebay?? - Intel "Black Ops"".
you're all doing the MVP work keeping minutely updates 💪
new career: Selling weird Hardware to Linus
Linus buying engineering samples might be my favourite set of LTT videos.
That 82-83% utilization means that one of the six cores isn't being used, for some reason. That's exactly 5/6ths.
thought that too, but when he ran 4/6 cores on both chips at the end you'd figure that'd change utilization
I was thinking the same, but the graphs were showing that all cores were being utilized, but also as Charizard said, it didn't change when he dropped it to 4 cores.
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@@stevethea5250 hahaha
I fell for this as a man on internet for 2 decades!!
Good job,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@@kaldo_kaldo good lord the Outlet website is a hot garbage fire.
7:00 "who would need that much thermal compound?" the verge
should see the guy who put thermal compound inside his custom loop
@@jamestor6700 wait what...
@@jamestor6700 yeah what? Drop the link I like laughing
@@OMNIBADhere it is czcams.com/video/9eQ8pTwam5o/video.html
@@jamestor6700 dang. Not even the Verge would be that stupid.... unless
My favorite LTT videos are the ones that don’t work right. It just makes me happy to know I’m not the only person on earth to fiddle around with weird stuff in the hopes that maybe it will work, but the 6% of the time it does, I’m super happy
12:30 "Last thing I have to try... Holy crap that was actually it!" This happens so much to me. One moment, there's no way I'll get this working, next moment, Anthony tells me out of the blue about "vfio-pci ids=..."
Isn't the thing that works, always the last thing you try?
Will Linus learn to stay away from shady ebay listings? Find out in the next episode of DragonBall Z.
more like in the next 5 episodes
More like in the next 19 episodes
No because with this video he can buy 30 more processors
Hopefully never because I like these videos
Stopped using fleaBay long ago... i proved the scammer sent a bogus vehicle and they literally banned me for be scammed and sent a bogus vehicle.. they changed their 10k vehicle guarantee because of me, because they lie about it.. i went over every single page proving I was due a full refund... yet only paypal(both verified paypal users,) gave me some of the scammed cash back... so that proved i was scammed right there.
I'm definitely going to need a follow up
Yeah the Everest chips never took off with the traders but there were some niche customers ( we sold a pair of them to ccp games a number of years back as special battle nodes for Eve Online - they disclosed them at one of their keynotes) and they took custom bios / custom imm2 code to run the fans at 100% and special 2u heatsinks. Only allowed a 1 year warranty on them. Still might be able to dig up the x3650 code if your serious on wanting to get them running :)
you could possible send them a email, then again the chances of them keeping the processers after 3 years isn't high.
@@hunterbear2421 Theres no way that Linus got rid of this fuckin COD Black Ops proc that was little more than a fairytale before the video
The reason why HFT went to FPGAs was because of how easily you can make custom accelerators on FPGA. And FPGAs also come with a ARM processor so you can very efficiently partition your code between the ARM core and your custom accelerators.
"No hyperthreading."
so um someone should go tell the engineers down in the exploit recovery group about this chip
I would laugh very hard if they knew about the exploits years ago and they didn't do anything
Even Pentium 4 630 has hyperthreading. 😂
Eric Ramos Did you mean: Security Vulnerability?
@@NoTraceOfSense I don't think one less logical processor would cause any security vulnerabilities. 😐
2013 is not even that old, it was like 2 years ago.
My 20mhz 386SX with 1.5 megabytes of ram is still kickin!
Running an Altair 8800 here, still keeps up with most modern titles.
@BIRTHDAYFACE046 i7 4790K here, still running strong
Bad news about the EU bro
@@jakeyod "Bad news about the world bro"
ftfy
7:38
That is one of the most dragged out self promo merch Linus has done.
12:37, we finally have episode 2 of Haunted Hardware, nice
12:32 getting into the BIOS without plugged keyboard, only Linus can do that
Probably bios automatically did so on first post with different cpu
It did that cause it had no boot drive connected. He mentioned the boot not in later, cause he didn't think it would do anything anyways.
No boot > bios on some mtb
"way back in 2013"
Me rolling on hardware conceived in 2011... :x
I still use a PC built in 2007 as my desktop / gaming PC. Lol
@@ksp1278 this, im using a 2010 workstation and just changed the gpu to a 1050ti, it is way faster than i anticipated and was dirt cheap
2600K Baby! :D
i7 980X for the win!
@sw4gr1d so what? most game are playable at 1080p medium
After watching your video i have the same problems with my Everest engineering sample CPU. I was unaware mine was throttling too but at 90%. I have the CPU in a X79 sabertooth. Mine would default at 1.6V cpu also and would shutdown the system after a minute because it would get so hot. After getting a triple rad CPU cooler it gave me time to figure out how to get this thing stable. Setting mine manually to 1.4V made it rock solid and played games on it for months with no issues. I'm guessing it would probably be similar to yours. Now time to figure out why its throttling. This CPU is also 6 core and hyper threaded.
you can't put custom spun cpu's in a board that has no bios profile/ID's/microcode for them and expect auto to work, you have to manually set the voltage, clocks, and most importantly current/wattage limits
Motherboard: How many volts do you want?
Cpu: Yes
9:29 clock speed is CLOCKSPEED
5:25 That time when Rezaer overtook windows before even booting up.
What if the IHS is actually fake?
Possible, but has it ever been a thing?
It wouldn't cause so many issues in the OS, it'd just run as designed whatever was under the hood.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 The CPUID and specifications for the bios are set in the silicon at the fab and can't be changed. Much like how they laser cut certain cores/units in CPUs and GPUs to disable them for lower end products.
Bosstown Dynamics I’m not sure on that one, it is possible that newer CPUs have that capability but it isn’t something I have heard of happening. It is worth noting that processors do have a small amount of data that can be re-written, but that is for micro code updates and that isn’t what the bios initially reads to get the CPUID and initial voltage\frequency\multiplier settings.
The_Cosmo the IHS has no effect on the CPU, but you could write whatever you want on the IHS and trick a consumer.
If it is a fake, it's a very impressive fake. Needs a delid.
Maybe try an old Intel server board? I really hope you play with these cpus more because I think a lot of us are curious.
Duh. You need a firmware that recognises this cpu. Linus doesn't know what he's doing. As usual.
@@Madrrrrrrrrrrr he specifically said he would need a bios designed to work with the cpu at 10:20 and earlier he mentioned likely needing a motherboard designed to work with the higher TDP. Why you gotta hate on a dude that just wants to have fun with some weird CPUs he bought off eBay using supplies he has laying around?
You could send DerBauer the CPU to my knowlege he is very good around cpu's
@@Empika both versions are correct.
@@temporaer No.
@@xPandamon yes
@@TENSE1983videos Der8auer is his alias. His nickname. It's the only right way to write his name. DerBauer is simply wrong.
As in he doesn’t drop them?
11:47 I'm actually running a server on that mobo lmao
12:41 Some boards goes straight to the setup screen on startup if there's nothing to boot.
12:32 xDD the moment he thought "wtf...xD"
CPU: Is made of silicon
Linus: I N T E R E S T I N G
One application the Everest series saw actual deployment was in EVE Online. Since the server code architecture was entirely single-threaded in nature (the roots of which hail back to 2002!), increased load in a single solar system couldn't scale across cores. They used these in two different specific instances. If you had one of the game's legendary multi-thousand-pilot fleet fights break out, the server node would all to its knees. Enter Everest. If you made a request ahead of time for a specific solar system to be reinforced for a major tactical deployment, they would move the system onto the reinforced Everest node to keep the game playable, even if it was only at 10-20% real-time speed due to load. The other use was for the game's main trade hub, which regularly hosts 1500-2500 pilots at any time, conducting thousands of transactions every second. not too far off from its original intended use in trading stocks.
I really hope we get a part II for this video, if you could get a hold of a custom bios and a compatible mobo, with a baller liquid nitrogen setup to cool the behemoth to get it to run at 1.6v
Aw shit here we go again.
LTTStore.com
How did you get ripped off? You didn't even look at the CPUID information to figure out what it's supposed to be!
It's like trying to make coffee in your blender. Sure, it can blend the ingredients and make it into a drinkable potion. But it will never taste as good or be as refined as if you used a coffee maker which sole purpose is to make coffee.
I think he did, but it wasn't recognized so wasn't mentionable.
@@LordZordid Instant coffee, crushed ice, and milk in a blender can make a pretty good coffee shake
I was thinking the same thing!! That's why I had to thumbs down this video :(
@@samin90 I know. But I didn't mention that for obvious reasons.
The "genuine intel cpu" sounds so sketchy lol
engineering samples have that in their naming as opposed to retail model names such as 9700k etc.
@@berketuran2000 Just saying that is SOUNDS sketchy, not that it actually in fact is.
@@BloodyCrow__ oh yeah, sorry i got it wrong. you're totally right
I think all of their chips identify as that if you look at /proc/cpuinfo in Linux.
AMD is "Authentic AMD"
@@kernelpanic9373 And Cyrix used to have "CyrixInstead"
Welcome to the life of an Intel pre-production tech (me).
Congrats on the career choice! Would you happen to be working at the Folsom, CA campus?
Holy McChicken Nuggets how can I get that job?
Do you have some spicy stuff for grabs dawg?
AMD is better
@@de00prolazr_47 I prefer amd but this guy most definitely has a better job than you
After AMD's recent gains, Intels respond should be codenamed the Red Dead Redemption cpu.
Would it be unoptimized and have bad performance at launch?
Dup123 not just at launch probably
Given what Intel wants to do, the name sticks and it's catchy.
It’s almost a game now to guess when Linus is gonna plug LTTstore.com
Linus: It's real!!
Me: * Looks up at video title *
The spooky action at a distance with the BIOS
12:37 They should have edited an X-Files Sound in :D
This whole video feels like a conspiracy
12:57
"okay custom...."
*mini heart attack*
"okay lat's just leave it to default"
Hyper threading avoids stalls while waiting for some instructions to execute. While waiting it executes other instructions, interleaving them. But I'm wondering if that part of the utilization issue is the lack of HT/SMT functionality?
"How did I get into the bios"
absolutelynotmeirl
Linus:- *cringes * it ideals at 60°C
My laptop:- That's cute.
Clean/replace your fan
Need more of this secret processor stuff !!
The real unicorn chip on the X79 platform is the Xeon E5-1680 V2. It's an unlocked 8-core 16-thread Ivy Bride chip and can be found on eBay for ~$175. I've bought them before and you can overclock them to 4.6GHz on water, sometimes more. The rumor is that Intel would have released an i7 counterpart to this chip if they had any competition in the HEDT space in 2013. Since there was none, we were stuck with the 6-core 12-thread i7-4960X.
Linus: * Puts chewed up Dog Toy in CPU Socket *
* Fumbles around with Motherboards for 30 mintues *
* PC shits itself and dies *
* Boots *
I9-9900k
Linux or Linus?
Linuxs.
In the ebay listing it says that CPU would feature a 250 TDP. I guess the VRMs on that chinese mainboard aren't really happy about that..
12:30 - Linus using Magic to get into the bios.
Imma start selling these so I can get money, works really well on Linus.
6:40 The wide-angle lens made Linus look like the Hulk! hahahahahaha...
Would love a followup of this, I'm pretty sure that by asking around some mb vendors or digging through extreme modding stuff (Anthony is the man) they could get some interesting info out of this
Have you tried disabling intel (thermal or whatever) manager in windows that is enabled by default and not easy to disable? Same steps as unlocking U chips.
"It's real !" needs to be a notification sound.
No running CPU-Z to see what it actually is, just relying on Windows' reporting? That's not particularly good.
If Linus ever runs out of thermal compound he could just run the cpu through his hair.
You know, hair gel is sacred for linus, and also for me. But for *sinners* like you, it is too much _technological power_
@Brayan bow to the *hair gel power* _insert omnipotent linus here_
@@sidebazooka6900 You know you are supposed to put the gel in your hair and not smoke it.
@@Mason-gz3tl oh no
Wait, so would that mean that...
Linus is using thermal compound AS hair gel?
That explains... nothing.
So, really how did you get in to the bios?
A video on the X5698 would be pretty cool!
From my experience, the CPU is not "idling" in bios.
the bios does put a slight load on the cpu
@@jamestor6700 it's not that it puts load on the cpu, it just doesn't use speedstep or any of the power management options
True. The bios usually takes the CPU into a safe mode where power saving features are disabled, sometimes running it on a single core, max speed. So they can run warm in the BIOS. this is done so you can disable these features by entering the BIOS before boot...
Rapscallion2009 I imagine you don’t want something funky happening while saving BIOS changes to ROM while the system is fucking with power management.
probably like Win98 before installing "Rain"
12:40 you're a wizard linus
I tried overclocking my ran and then the the display wasn’t working and started beeping now it’s just no pushing the display what should I do? Please help
**Listing all my odd ballz CPUs on eBay**
Me: "The trap is set, now we must wait!"
8:17 lol just like my q9550, I swapped an e8400 with it and the damn thing always showed 84% max usage, years later I realized I needed a microcode update, so I can tell you the same now :P just no idea where to get that, oh and funny thing you could boot the quad on it but windows would freeze and it was a buggy detection, you had to update the bios with it for it to settle down and work normally, what a bizarre way of doing things, nowadays the board wont even post with an unsupported cpu
Send one to der8auer, he can fiddle with CPU power supply directly and maybe has access to some special oc BIOSes. Would be neat to see this running as advertised.
Edit: or rather, as rumored. :-)
my i7 3770 stock runs at 1.8ghz idle ? and ramps up to 3.4ghz when under load is that normal for stock in turbo mode using an asus p8p67 pro board with 16gb corsair vengeance pro ddr3 1.6ghz ram ? with amd rx480
9:20 Is how I felt when I kept getting ntoskrnl.exe error on my work PC after I upgraded it from Win 7 to Win 10. Updated all drivers and still getting the same BSOD error.
Of course it's hot, it's using 1.6 Volts!
5:32 The lack of neatness of that desktop bothers me.
I actually still run an x79 setup i went from a 4820k to a 6core 4930k woke it back up. With a cooler master all in one water Im able to run 4.5ghz max and safely 24/7 it at 4.4 the voltage thing is all 2011 cpus the voltage changes every boot if you leave auto. X79 need to manual set everything and it will over volt so then you have to comp for that or add voltage offsets. Upping the pll to 1.9 helps stability a ton
My old X79 rig runs a Xeon 1650v2 at 4.8ghz daily. There are a ton of them on eBay and most will clock to 4.6+ GHz on custom water. All cores and HT on