Parkland Shooter's Lawyer Under Investigation by Florida Bar
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2022
- The Florida Bar announced they have launched an investigation into Broward Assistant Public Defender Tamara Curtis, who was one of the attorneys who represented the Parkland shooter. The Law&Crime Network's Jesse Weber breaks it down with Palm Beach County state attorney Dave Aronberg and deputy public defender Philip Dube.
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The fact she looked over laughingly at Cruz to acknowledge her behaviour twice is just appalling. She deserves to be fired. So immature and disturbing. 🤬
I totally agree, I have actually defended these lawyers since the beginning and that is because everyone needs someone to interpret the law for them innocent or guilty, however you can do that without disrespecting the victims and these lawyers have no defense in my eyes anymore, their actions speak for themselves and they should be dealt with.
Right? Did she feel like she was sitting at the “cool” table? Did she get her 15 minutes of fame by laughing and befriending a monster?
@@pollypocket2282 This behaviour suggests to me that she has grown up feeling like a loser like Cruz did, and feels the need to "impress" him, or relate to him in a way. Why else would you do this, other than get the approval of Cruz? This woman lacks professionalism and is a sad case!
@@stormezekiel2088 he admitted he was guilty, what a waste of lives, mostly the living ones who defended this mass murdering psycho
@@colindavid2078 agreed. She's giggling with him like she has a crush on him or something. Suuuuuuper creepy
The fact that they're sitting there talking to and laughing with a kid who killed so many others is disgusting.
Stop being emotional, they are defense attorneys. You should know this.
@@elisq3807 they still are supposed to act with decorum.
You mean their client
There is no kid there
@@elisq3807 And?????? I must have missed that course for law students.
She’s the type that’ll write him love letters while he’s lock up in prison.
Exactly what I said
This was so creepy - almost like she was trying to impress that little sociopath.
She was- she was trying to be his friend
I know right, what a sad weirdo
Totally. I got the feeling she had a crush on him and was trying to act cool or something. That team are an absolute disgrace and should be removed from the bar.
@@Outnumberedbykidsandcats 100% that was the vibe I got too. Glad I wasn't the only one.
maybe she was manipulating him
We are not mad at the fact they are defending a monster. We are mad at how disgusting and immature they act towards the victims families! They have no sympathy for the 17 people killed, which was mostly children that their client brutally murdered!
Exactly!
@@jamesjackson5020 where's your courage?
I mean, you aren't, but it ain't rare to see a commenter mad simply because he had a defense team.
@@jamesjackson5020: Who are “they”? Did you mean YOU? And why would anyone want to spend their life in prison for this guy?
But... defending a monster already means you have no sympathy for the 17 people killed
They CONTINUOUSLY whispered and wrote notes back and forth to the defendant, joking, often with a hand on his back like they were friends. Disgusting. That goes way past defending.
Maybe they were buttering him up wanting some of his money!
Disgusting has visual. And they look the part.
You wouldn’t be saying that if you thought he was innocent.
@@cishowerton2031 what money does he have?
@@obediahpolkinghorniii564 there was never any doubt about his guilt. He confessed and plead guilty.
OMG, that parent addressed the middle finger impressively, demonstrating how to unapologetically give one. It's just super weird that she even did that.... Creepy.
@@AntiPalestine what kind of a pathetic sort of god needs respect. If I say OMG enough, will it weaken your god more? does it lose God Points every time it is disrespected? If that's what kind of God is out there, then I don't wanna respect that at all.
@@AntiPalestine that verse was not about people saying "oh my god" or "jesus christ"
it was about false prophets and using the name of god for profit pr to further an agenda
@@NeonTailzzz God is a title. What did he say when Moses asked what his name was? I refers to himself as “I Am”. To not say His name in vain means not to say bad things after saying “I Am”. Do not speak negative things onto your name. Your word is creation. ❤.
A simpler look at her explains everything
@@Parisroam more churches need to hear and encourage this instead of just tearing down their congregates as "sinners"
Are we really trying to excuse this behavior???? I’m appalled!
I agree. I had to play that twice. I could not believe this. I'm still shocked and scared that these kind of people are serving our legal system.
It's disgusting
Her appearance is just as disgusting as her behavior. She looks like a trans man in drag. I mean her hairline is worse than mine.
they are not excusing the behavior. they are explaining the LAW regarding the behavior and how it will affect the outcome of any investigation. If you listened to the one guy he actually said that lawyers, while waiting for the proceedings to start will do some disgusting things. And to be honest i would be less worried about her behavior, which is disgusting, and by the standards of the law is possibly morally wrong isn't ethically wrong, and be more worried about the possible moral and ethical behavior of the prosecution's actions if proven to be true. of fabricating evidence. Because regardless of him pleading guilty, if they fabricated evidence they would have to let him go and he will be walking free. i think that is a little bit more ehically, morally, and terrifying than a lawyer giving the families of the victims the finger.
Isn't it just freedom though?
Like one of the parents said: Just because you have to defend a monster doesn't mean you give up your humanity. Horrible woman!
it's a woman?
That ain’t no woman.
@@powerplay.556 the lawyer! Who flipped the bird. Not the defendant.
Maybe she has known him (the defendant for some time) and is being compassionate towards his troubles and didn’t fully think through that action. After all his defense team, LITERALLY saved his life.
@@rtobar8058 No, she's his lawyer. There is no excuse for mistreating the victims, for turning a painful situation into a circus. I don't care that she was working too saved his life. She can handle herself like an adult, not lower the tone of the proceedings into a carnival.
Imagine thinking you'd get away with doing that in a courtroom full of cameras
She knew there was a camera. She even waved don't remember before or after that disgusting gesture
Imagine thinking it's real and not scripted theater meant to further the political divide and distract people by creating emotional responses.
I am wondering if she already did in her previous cases
@@cerebrumgyrus491 I believe she needs to get a strike against her. There are some basic niceties about behaviour in the courtroom. She enjoyed her relationship with Cruz. He was fully entitled to a full and fair representation, and his lawyers will be handsomely paid for every moment they spent working on this case. They got their payday, but they let their profession down.
Proof all that schooling does not make you intelligent
Why are they both excusing what she did? So disgusting we have lawyers like this 😂
Parents are disgusting, milking all the attention
I agree
THEY STICK TOGETHER
Lawyers are lower than Whale 💩.
@@ragingbull154 not all I had a very good lawyer he took less so I could have more
We demand Disbar her immediately! She was acting as a lawyer in a courtroom! She disrespected all of the parents. The defense lawyers are not someone I would ever hire! Just don't ever hire them, any of them!
“We demand” 😂 you can’t even demand a day off work wtf y’all talking about 😂
She's disgusting. Laughing with him and giving the middle finger. Unbelievable!!
Typical jewish women...
The smile of a depraved mass murderer with zero remorse is so dreamy 🤮!! There is nothing cute about him! Not one thing. Unless he his getting beat up daily and begging for his useless life in prison - that will be cute. Otherwise 🖕🏼 him and his smile.
Only in America
Right!!
@@Sircasm. Get help!
Scary to see how casual they are with him. Joking around with such a person makes them look like they feel he did nothing wrong. Mind blowing.
Democrats. They love degenerates and murderers.
Probably because he didn't kill her child or family members...there is very little difference between her and her client..she's wicked and shameless 😭
That's what happens when time goes by everyone forgets the severity of things and people not involved dont care anymore
@@zachballs7079 Yeah right... nothing to do with time going by.
Creepy af, just like Cruz.
Those 2 woman laughing with a guy that is a murderer……. Is mind blowing. Sick woman. Sick 🌎 world. 💯
My blood is boiling seeing these people who should be "qualifited" To having a serious behaviour. That lawyer should be disbarred, cause cameras caught her for few seconds but i could only imagine how many times she done this.
What’s “qualifited”?
The fact that these people call themselves lawyers is absolutely ludicrous
They’re flunkies. That’s why they’re PD s.
@@toreckman8899 that’s not necessarily true. Some smart educated lawyers are PD
@@toreckman8899 Yep. Can't get jobs in the District Attorneys Office or in private practices. I mean look at them lol. Such a motley crew. They look unprofessional.
@@Carrjacked ok. 🙄.
@@Carrjacked looks like someone disagrees with you.
My sister, a tv anchor, was murdered in 1998. One of the most painful and infuriating things that went on in court was the hugging and pampering the murderer during proceedings. I understand they are attempting to humanize the monster, but have no idea the pain it is causing the victims family.
Blessings to you Paula 💐🙏truly sorry to hear how your sister was taken from you🌹🌹
Jesus bless ✝️
My condolences, Paula.
I completely understand your frustration and rage.
NOBODY thinks these murderers are human or have compassion...the only people who are "fine" with behavior like this or what you witnessed are faking it for their own gain or are just as deranged as the criminal.
Sadly, they're out there. But there are far more of US. I hope you find comfort in knowing that.
Take care.
I'm sorry for your loss. ❤️
It's not that they have no idea of the pain it causes, it's that they do not care. It's so sad. I'm very sorry for your loss and all that you and your family have gone through.
the fact that the bar associations are "self regulated" is the real problem. there needs to be non-lawyer or non-bar participants in the regulation of these snakes.
The man who showed her how to really give the middle finger is a hero.
As a parent of a murdered child, I was/am appalled at the conduct of these defense attorneys. I had to endure my daughter's killer's attorney consistently mis-pronouncing my daughter's name ... ON PURPOSE. Even when stopped mid-sentence to correct him, he continued to say her name wrong. At my impact statement, I too pointed that out as just another of the million things I have had to digest as the result of losing my daughter violently at another person's hands. AS IF losing her was not enough!
Recently, I learned this defense attorney died. Instantly I felt relief and hoped he saw my face AND my daughter as he faced the God that I serve.
May your daughter's memory be a blessing.
As a sinful man myself I try to help others stay on the same path. You never mentioned which God you serve. Perhaps if it’s the Christian God, you do know to forgive and let go. I can’t compare in losing a child but I did lose several close friends and currently putting up with gang-stalking.
@@mikadotanh9396 watch your six!
@@mikadotanh9396 I leave "vengeance" in God's hands, but it is still I, who have to walk through the valley of grief. Each and every day I forgive and let go because every morning I wake up, my bones cry out at the loss. I serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, Who is the same yesterday, today and eternally. God is great, my daughter is in His heaven and one day I will be with both. One sweet day ...
I was thinking when he dies he has to face God.
This is actually unbelievable.
Those attorneys are not very smart at all, exactly the kind of representation that guy deserves.
Indeed!❤
Exactly my initial thought. It's perfect. But at some point he could appeal on ineffective counsel because of her shenanigans. Which leads me to it could well be part of her strategy..
Like DBrooks they had a fool for a client and Mr Cruiz had a fool for a lawyer. Ahh! Perfect match!!!
Except they got him life instead of death so they may have been a circus court but won unfortunately
Smart enough to get him out of death penalty
It's frankly amazing how, just when you thought you caught the monster - suddenly the other ones come to surface, rallying around him. Monsters hidden and well-disguised in educated, esteemed positions, like this woman sharing a laugh with a _school shooter_ while flipping the bird at the camera, the eyes of the people, the taxpayers, the gravely injured families. Just when you think you couldn't see worse - they go lower than even you could have imagined.
A bit over dramatic I think you’re being
Yeah I can’t believe that guy sticking up for the scummy defence team. Surely they must have something about not bringing the reputation of the legal system into disrepute. As a midwife that’s what we had - it wasn’t just what we did at work, but if we did something online or in public that would make the public doubt us in the position we are in (that the public need to trust those in the healthcare field). Surely lawyers have something like that.
If she is not disciplined or disbarred, then I have no faith in the Bar Association. Her actions are unprofessional and disgusting! 😡
p.s. the speaker here angers me to blame the judge for the defense attorneys appalling behavior in the case! Horrible
I saw this woman flipping the finger to the judge. I could not believe the disrespect she gave to the judge and also to the families who lost their children! So glad there will be consequences for her.
They both stuck their finger up. The curly hair lawyer first. @1:20-1:21 she quickly stuck it up. You have to pause quickly. Both disgusting!
I heard some man saying that when The Bar is going to investigate...He followed with but they hardly ever do.
We need the 17 to let their wishes,concerning the matter,be known.
They may be ready to go home and try to heal.
They may want her bald headed courtroom rudeness addressed.
After all it really is about the lives lost,the family's they have,not some screwball internet law school grad,reaching for attention.
The judge (or jury) was not present during this incident. But it was disrespectful nonetheless.
When she gets fired. Let's laugh in her face.
*I guess all of you guys are commenting before watching the video because they just said that there's most likely not going to be any consequences.*
As the defense you should be respectful towards the victims at any time. Being so chummy with your client. It’s no damned joke. Family and friends had to sit there and keep quiet. All this time. And when they finally got the chance to say anything, they were very eloquent. Imaging losing your child that way. Waiting for years. Enduring that trial. It’s inhuman.
As a defence attorney you are supposed to treat your client like a human being which includes having a friendly relationship. If this is too much for you to handle you should stop watching court cases as you will constantly be triggered, unless you have some kind of addiction to being outraged.
@@dirtyharold7164 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎
You're FULL of BULL - S H 💩 i T And You're REAL DISGUSTING, just like that female piece of S H 💩 i T ! Is she Your sister, Your cousin, Your sister Or Your wife?! WTF?!
They're allowed to be friendly with their client. In fact they'd be doing him a disservice if they didn't have some level of rapport. Like it or not their job was to serve the defendant - not the victims or their families.
@@Neverendingstory78 no, being friendly with their client is exactly what is required of defence teams. A lawyer being cold with their client is a breakdown of the justice system. It's not the defence teams job to judge or punish the defendant, their job is to treat their client with dignity and look for the best possible outcome for their client.
Any more questions?
@@dirtyharold7164 so you’re fine with their conduct in this trial entirely? You think that putting up the middle finger was being “friendly” with the client??
Attorneys never fail to disappoint. … this attorney is a slap in the face to justice.
This was an attempt to make the victim's parents angry then the defense attorney demanded a miss trail.
I'm beginning to think that people no longer know what "allegedly" means. She's literally on camera. Nothing "alleged" about her actions. She's having a good time with someone who attempted to end nearly 40 lives, in a setting where his victims and their families would be present.
Its just a term you need to use so you cant be sued for defamation. Even tho its clear as day... You can't really say it 😆
@@Janelou42 Unless democrats are talking about republicans. Then it automatically happened even if it is complete fiction.
@@giqwaju3691no..one
Said that..
And like clockwork a republican spontaneously pretends to be a victim in some way.
I’m beginning to think you don’t know how the law works
She looks like the type that could easily be manipulated into a prison 'relationship' with a client 🙄
I hope these lawyers never get another case for their disgusting, disrespectful behavior and are fired from their firm. Shame on them.
She should be under investigation. So unprofessional and childish. Hard to imagine that she passed the Bar in the first place.
The bar isn‘t too high that‘s why she could wobble past it
Intelligence and moral values are two very different things.
She should be immediately disbarred.
@@magicpeapotv8929 obviously not intelligent enough to hide her moral values or lack thereof
investigated for what exactly ? Her protected freedom of speech and expression ?
As someone that had been in and around courtrooms for almost 50 years I find her (or his) actions so offensive to the victim's, the judge, and the system that I think she should be sanctioned by the bar and fired by the public defender.
Yeahhhh…male pattern baldness is easily recognizable even a mile away!!! Haha 😂
Sectioned not sanctioned. She clearly has a strong connection with a murdering lunatic.
She or he is one ugly fella
It's not a PD, Cruz inherited over 700k from his mom. Over 30 years in court, there should be sanctions for lack of decorum.
@@jerushieful what? This is a serious and extremely heartbreaking matter and you’re trying to be funny? Grow up.
Joaquin Oliver's father address this nasty woman beautifully by giving her an unapologetic middle finger. These poor parents have had to endure so much pain and now insult to injury. jokes on her, it showed the world her true colors and it will affect her future, hopefully she will no longer be able to practice law.
My heart is with the victims and their loved ones today on the 5th anniversary of this day. Peace and love.
She was only fined 2k dollars wow hope her actions got her zero work and life harassment
They played around with a killer who could've done the same to their families without a problem. Their behavior made him believe *even more* that what he did is just fine, and giving him the distorted perception that there will be people LIKE THEM who will accept him with open arms even after what he did. And this will pass a disturbing message to the wrong people. They don't care how destructive this is.
It's despicable, really. Given the opportunity alone with any of his own counsel, the chances are high that he'd happily take their lives for kicks and giggles. He has nothing to lose, and just doesn't care. Levity can be had within counsel groups, but should NEVER be done at the expense of the victims of this unquestionably guilty waste of space. Their actions during court were far beyond respectable lawyers easing tensions with the defendant. And you are absolutely right, this sends the very message that criminals deserve to have a good time in court at the expense of their victims.
An excellent way to put it, you are 100% correct!
These lawyers have to know when their client is 100% guilty. To sit next to an indisputable child killer and have this kind of rapport is disturbing. Heinous even
Even many inmates in prison won’t want to be friendly with him-a child killer. Unbelievable that those attorneys giggled and joked with him, passing notes, slaps on the shoulders- they’re just as bad as he is. 🙎🏻♀️
@@Sabri2319 It's called defense. The so called 'rapport' was artificial. They had to try to humanize the defendant as that is their job. Having camera's on you in court is not normal and was all pervasive all the time due to public hysteria. Of course they knew he was guilty. Do you think they wen't out for a few drinks with him over the weekend? Of course not.
Her behavior during this trial was despicable! I REALLY hope they throw the book at her! what a disgrace!
Curly hair also did middle finger, b!tch
With what? Lol
@@tugboat6940 ?????
@@jamescarp you said throw the book at her. What are they going to charge her with? Contempt after the fact? Lol
@@tugboat6940 I watched the Law and Crime network here on CZcams and saw that basically there is nothing they can do to her b/c there was no Jury or Judge in the courtroom at the time and that's unfortunate! But the families were there and saw it and THAT matters b/c they all lost their kids and were deeply hurting, and she does that! She definitely showed lack of decorum, unprofessionalism, poor taste and complete disregard to the grieving families! I just hope that she gets a horrible reputation for her actions and loses all her clients!
I'm glad the judge let the families speak their hearts and souls.
Sickening behavior! my condolences to all the families
Disgusting and shameful for any attorney to accept act like that during any trial 😪
@@sA-ny2jl no one is reading that novel, shut up
If she gets disbarred over this I will have absolutely no sympathy for her.
I've never been to court but I imagine if I went to court over something as trivial as lets say a parking ticket - I would never dream of behaving in such a disgraceful and inappropriately outrageous manner.
Why would she get disbarred? Lmfao what did she do that is worthy of losing her law license? Please get a grip on reality
I agree but unfortunately it won't happen.
@@dangerzone6372 She disrespected the court, that's what.
@@dangerzone6372 Have you ever heard of contempt of court? That is a criminal offense and this lawyer clearly showed contempt when she flipped the bird.
The lawyer's hair alone is tell-tale
I dated an attorney....she constantly made fun of people she was defending and people that were were fighting cases against her clients ect...and it was always the saddest cases and she laughed like "oh well". Attorney's are typically not good people, they are extremely schadenfreude. I guess Law School conditions them to lose their humanity.
…Or maybe they didn’t have any to begin with.
or maybe it's the psychopaths and sociopaths that this profession attracts?
The fact that he breaks from the stoic blank expression he always wears and actually displays appropriate emotional cues here.... Really let's you know he has zero remorse for what he did
Yep
YeS!! I hope he gets pulled apart in prison
And no brain damage ☝🏾
The fact he was a C.IA victim; who's parents died and were replaced by ci@ handlers
Sadist
The judge deserves a medal. The defense attorneys hit a new low with this trial.
The judge was an utter narcissist.
@@cockpiss9260 She certainly wasn't worse than the completely biased judge in the 'trial' of Alex Jones.
The judge is a Karen
She deserves a necklace, pearls.
@@cockpiss9260 how?
So, has she rightfully lost her job? She shouldn’t be able to continue to earn a living in a court room if she cannot respect a court room.
Shocking that such unprofessional behavior would occur in the courtroom. Surprised to hear that no action is likely to be taken.
He had a stoic blank look on his face during the whole trial until she used the finger and laughed and then he laughed and the other Assistant Attorney laughed. It is disgusting behavior for anyone especially an attorney in a high profile case, it's unfathomable.
They both should be fired
they AA did it too I heard.
This is evidence that he knows what he did. It’s a psychopath’s response.
That attorney doesn't have the mental fortitude to properly defend an obvious murderer. Nobody, especially an attorney, should be using this type of behavior in a courtroom.
Well, she won. So obviously she does.
@@dangerzone6372 no, the defense lost.
@@dangerzone6372 not if good people can help it. If he survives 5 years it's cause Noone with balls bd a conscience got within stabbing distance
@@ArmadaAmbience no he already confessed they won by sparring his life .
@@LetsTalkAboutPrepping good people aren't in jail willing to stab a human for noriety , you guys are crazy lol . Now instead filing lawsuits if family member went to jail that be honorable. U actually think Jeffery killer was a good guy or did it for noble reasoning.
Someone needs to pay her a visit on the street
She knows that. She knows she’s on camera and that’s why she dgaf and intentionally give a finger to the victims family to make them suffer from heartbroken that they have to endure this. Like ouch that’s gonna hurt.
The lawyers made themselves the targets of the families by playing their sick games. Lawyers aren’t above getting the treatment they do themselves.
And yet, they won. If you think they care about being called a few names, you don't know lawyers. All they cared about was keeping their client out of the death chamber, because they were duty bound to zealously defend their clients. These are public defenders. They don't get to choose their clients. But when they get one, they obviously do a good job of defending them. May public defenders are pretty useless. These guys bent over backwards for their client. I've got to respect that.
She made nikolas smile. She is a Legend. Nikolas smille is cute
@@Sircasm. you are sick. Dude killed people and you’re glad he’s smiling…
@@deathtotruthers1 defending someone and acting a fool in court and being disrespectful are two different things. Flipping off the cameras has nothing to do with defending their clintes, and it is a pathetic show of complete lack of decorum on the defenses part.
@@deathtotruthers1 Maybe but they will be remembered as being disgusting!
They lost all rights to be respected once they claimed to be bigger victims than the victims themselves. Then the impact statements SHOULD include the council, since they just re-traumatized the victims families! The complete disrespect they showed to everyone in that courtroom cannot possibly be overstated.
Unbelievable and Heartless gesture.
This was such a display of immaturity and arrogance. It took my breath away! Was she a court appointed defense attorney? And if so, is she or any other court appointed defense attorney held accountable by the court?
Judge and jury were not present but the world was watching. It's a courtroom which deserves respect! That's why cameras are so important.
WOW. That's the first time I've seen it. The families of the victims have been through enough. Anything less than firing this attorney is unacceptable.
Well, probably nothing will happen. I'm sure she will be harassed by people for a while, but otherwise... To be mean: she is a ugly human being from the inside and the outside - that's a fate she has to endure the rest of her life. I get that you see that monster as a human being (which he is at the end) if you work with him all day and even the biggest monster must get a fair trial in a democracy because that's the only way to ensure that the government does not change the rules who is considered a monster, but... man, how far do you go to do your job and how do you disassociate what he did.
The judge was so lenient on those unprofessional lawyers
That defense team is a true disgrace. The should be disbarred for their disgusting conduct in court.
At the beginning of the trial, I was ATTACKED when I called the defense team "Incredulously Juvenile". Glad to see it wasn't just me! 🤮 Just Disgusting!
These lawyers are excusing her!! Shows how cold hearted they are and how they are as bad as she is!! WTH? These attorney’s make me SICK!!!!!!!
They all narcissistic!!!!
Yup.. Roaches are usually found in groups.
@@eileenmcdonald1599 educated people don’t need to suffer uneducated people
There’s a reason lawyers are considered scum for the most part
We as a society need to hold these disgusting, sadistic, narcissistic, monsters accountable for their despicable actions.
Yes, and people like the shooter too!
@@stevepompei3694 they deserve to be eaten alive by a pack of wolves...
Who, the attorneys? Why are they "disgusting, sadistic, narcissistic monsters"? They're just doing their job.
@@FreeWilly24 Laughing in the most serous thing you could ever think of and obviously giving the finger to the camera. If that isn't Disgusting, sadistic or narcissistic behaviour
That scary man with the terrible fade, he looks absolutely dead in the eyes. I’m not totally convinced he’s a real attorney.
Not having empathy in this situation especially is a symptom of being a Sociopath
What type of person does this?! . That Father's Testimony was POWERFUL!!.
I sincerely hope she is punished to the fullest extent of whatever they can hit her with. I can’t imagine what those parents are still going through (I have a 17 year old). To sit there and see her act the way she did without any care or respect… she is an awful person.
She is just as much as a loser as Cruz is! Hope she never gets business again! Unprofessional as it gets!
She's mad at the world because she looks like Shrek and the other guy looks like Fred Flintstone. The whole defense team is ridiculous
Remember this boy suffer a lot her mother die all that student do buillying to him I understand a lot people died but why they did building to this poor boy ?
@@yarahgil7452 What?
She should be disbarred. She obviously isn’t fit to practice law. She’s an embarrassment.
Unbelievable. It’s impossible to tolerate.
That is unbelievable that an attorney would do that in court, and ive never seen this happen before. Its so disrespectful to the victims families.
The dark haired lawyer...I've seen him on many episodes of this show and he is the KING of making excuses for bad behavior. He also excused Darrel Brook's behavior in many ways when questioned about him in another episode. A defense attorney to his very core.
Totally agree.
YEP. He’s a Californian public defender, have you seen that place it’s a train wreck? They slap criminals on the wrist and let them go to reoffended until they kill someone, then they’re in the joint for like 5 years. It makes sense.
Barf what an a55hole 🙄 he definitely rubbed me the wrong way
@@desculvscalf yes! Especially in DC where they let people into the capitol and kill cops.
His voice irks me so badly!!
I was surprised that the judge allowed the victim statements to get so passionate. I'm also glad she did. This was such a high profile case. This wasn't one murder, these were 17+ teenagers at school. Where they should be safe. I believe this was the worst school shooting?
They waited 4 years for Cruz to get life in prison. He pleaded guilty, they never had to relive the pain over again. But the jury couldn't have it on their conscious, they sentenced someone to death.
Every word they spoke was well deserved. It was one of those once in a lifetime type of moments.
Absolutely disgusting they were joking around with that murderer! Snickering like they were besties.
Same with Jodi, no big deal
almost as if Cruz was a human being! how crazy is that! (sarcasm)
you are all pathetic and hypocrits.
She might be lonely and sad to say but desperate
Their sleeping together
@@ANGELSURS you're disgusting 🤢
I live in Australia and still can’t get over this
She should never be able to defend again . None of them . A disgrace to the US judicial system
It is beyond disgusting!!! How revolting that this attorney did not realize her behavior would not be offensive and inappropriate. Families lost loved ones. How revolting of a human being!!!!
They should all be sued for mental anguish. I bet they'd be just as loving and respectful if THEIR kids got slaughtered. NOT
The reason I never went into law is because I’m not clever enough but I would never be able to hold back my temper when seeing these twisted freaks
And people wonder why attorneys are so despised.
The middle finger isn't the worst part. The worst part is her joking around with someone as disturbed and sickening as this Cruz. For her to laugh with him is just surreal.
This is the first time I actually saw it. I can’t even put into words how disgusted I feel.
Thank you for teaching her, Mr. Oliver!
Yeah me too, go out with me babe
The most unprofessional, disgusting behavior I have ever seen in courtroom. Don’t make excuses for her. This is unacceptable
Nice job finding the only person on the planet who would defend these people.
Lol, imagine when she applies to a new law firm.
Why’d you leave your last job?
“Oh, I got fired for laughing with a mass murderer of children while flipping off the families. No biggie, lol.”
Right? Lol
She wasn't flipping off families though. I'm not saying it wasn't inappropriate, because it was, but she wasn't doing it at the families. Another person was playing around with the camera and zooming it in on them and they were flicking them off. It wasn't the families though.
I don't care who she think it's too she flipping everyone off the families, camera, us, the court everyone.
@@justthatgirl-ct4jo ok ? You don't flip anything off when it something this serious and the camera thing isn't even that serious
@nononnono She was doing this thing called providing facts. She started by saying it was inappropriate. However the gesture was not, in fact, made at the families. This is a fact. Both if these things are true.
Do you have a problem with reading?
The judge didn’t stir up hate towards the defense, the defense created their own hate with their behavior.
The amount of disrespect Elizabeth Scherer is facing because of this trial is disgusting and unbelievable. There is no excuse for the irresponsible actions of the defense council and for laughing and joking with the defendant. It's been almost a year, but this was a long and difficult trial and Elizabeth did a fabulous job.
That was the most disgusting behavior by the defense
I hope she gets not only disbarred, but investigated for such a disgusting act. That whole defense team should suffer for their absolute uncalled for actions, including saying that nobody had to “endure as much as they had to”. Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. 🤬
I think it’s He not she
She's getting investigated by the bar association
Her demeanor is very unprofessional. She will be very lucky if the Bar allows her to keep her license.
I think leave to it like these are probably the only defense team who would defend a kid like this. So it makes sense that they are like that
Surely it's classed as contempt of court
Way to go dad,for giving it back to the lawyers,,they were so unprofessional, makes me sick!❤God bless the family members 🙏
Yucking it up with a defendant who murdered 14 people, tells you all you need to know about her character and professionalism. Gross. Disgusting.
That attorney should absolutely be disbarred, and NEVER able to practice law again!
After the middle finger stunt and “we’ve been through the most” statement, the victims should be able to call out the scumbags that acted so unprofessionally in a court room.
and the lawyer in this video thought that the judge was out of line for letting them do that. unbelievable
My law professor was held in contempt and JAILED for smirking in front of a judge in open court. The middle finger from an attorney in court...I can't imagine. My professional credibility would evaporate.
This judge was a bit of an airhead
It's FLORIDA, are you surprised? And these guest attorneys in this episode are horrible to defend those defense attorneys. "It is what it is?" Is that how one articulates themselves after spend all that money in law school? Where is Emily D. Baker? Her observation would have had more value than these two...and I've been to a small claims court where a judge sent an attorney would of the room to change because her v-neck blouse was "too low" and she rolled her eyes at the judge -- that action got her in contempt. I wonder if it is because the judge is a woman. No one seems to question these actions when there's male judges.
The guy trying so hard to excuse this is so weird. He is so blatantly delusional, wow.
who is the guy you are talking about?
Love how the dad flipped her off!!
Yep, agreed - he certainly put her in her place. It's only absurd he had to. I can't imagine my unfathomable grief as a father being topped by the outrageous and disgusting behaviour of the people who are defending the monster, the demon who blew my childs head off. They're at the very least expected to behave in a dignified and civil manner, to respect the court and everyone involved, they couldn't even achieve that.
There should be NOTHING that is not allowed to be said from these victim’s families!! This is their time to speak on behalf of their loved ones!!!
Agreed. Sitting through the trial of the killer of your loved one and watching not only them, sit cold, absolutely emotionless except to laugh and joke about the situation with his defense, members of the court, who are supposed to uphold at least a little dignity.
AMEN!
Right? This is their time to be angry and share their emotions. Who cares about the defense team’s feelings
Ya I agree but by courts rule and constitution the judge would've been fair saying keep the emotions towards Cruz. She proved it by getting upset herself the courts including the defence are I ff the table . Ofcourse giving circumstances she expected and gave a pass except when talking about her kids she blew a gasket
As long as they follow the rules, sure. They didn't, though.
I am SO HAPPY she is being investigated.
GOOD, ABOUT TIME!!
These lawyers, the one that flipped the bird & the ones laughing should be punished & severely . They are beyond disgusting!
how severely? death?
@@jonathankessler7436 what are you even trying to say?
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 that ya'll are overreacting. This attorney is working long, hard hours to provide a very important civic duty. She was competent enough to spare her client the death penalty in a case where many people wanted capital punishment. If she was accused by the judge for being in contempt of court, it still wouldn't result in being disbarred but people want to ruin her life...over what exactly?
@@MagerialPage you cant be serious 🤣
@@MagerialPageWe are holding public servants to the same standard as school shooters 😂
I am a lawyer myself and I can understand them defending there client, that's just part of our job, but being disrespectful to judge and the victims family is just too horrible. It's so true when one said that one can be educated but turning education into knowledge is in our hand, and these lawyers are example of how education in hands of some ignorant people can be a disaster .
"There client"? It's "their", lawyer boy. I guess basic grammar isn't a prerequisite to being a lawyer.
@@ARedMotorcycle you would be SURPRISED to know USA and UK are not the only countries that need lawyers. Non-English speaking lawyers exist...is that hard to comprehend???
@@ARedMotorcycle apparently "turning education into knowledge" isn't your strength. But what can we expect from you? After all, you are just a red bicycle 🚲
It's okay to be defense lawyer and even scumbag like nikolas cruz deserve a fair trial but in job like that people have to be respesctful and if they can't be, they should be fired
How do you/can you defend a client when committing crimes like this? Serious question. From what I understand everyone has the right to be represented but where do you draw the line as accepting that you can’t defend them for their actions and only be there because representatives have to be present?
The firm is clearly taking no responsibility. Everyone needs to cancel this law firm. Get their clients, stakeholders to back out.
They will come to their senses.
The fact that they are sitting up there taking up for this lady’s disgusting actions… very telling!
Exactly.
Where ??
Who?
@@alexchristina6368 Clearly in the video. Did you not watch the same vid as me???
@@imlikeheroin2 The two men being interviewed in the video. What do you mean who??? Did you not watch the video?
It does matter weather it was behind doors or not , its disgusting that this lawyer even thought it was ok to do so
*whether
Agreed. That Attorney comparing her actions to a woman adjusting a bra strap or man scratching himself is a FAR CRY from giving the finger and cackling with their mass murdering MONSTER. Unbelievable.
@@suburbantrapqueen3244 no he was trying to say it does matter on the weather
@Arc 😂😂😂
Anyone else think lawyers don’t care about right and wrong. What a POS