Everyone always believed that the Shade Lord sought to consume or destroy Hallownest, after escaping godhome. But I always thought that it would just return to the abyss like the Void did in the dream no more ending. If that is the case, then the last ending(s) is/are no longer a cliffhanger. But I could be wrong of course.
I thought the same thing, but when talking to my friend about it he brought up the counterpoint that even if the Shade Lord isn't intentionally being malicious or destructive, just its mere *presence* in Godhome seemed to mess everything up, so it entering Hallownest might cause trouble.
Good Video but one Thing: I think the Hollow Knights Shade isnt part of the Shade Lord because in this ending the Hollow Knight does survive and as WE know a vessels Shade only appears when their Shell breaks but then again we don't even know if the radiance in the pantheon is somehow still Part of the Hollow Knights dream prison or not so who knows.
The fact the infection died when we do the pantheon endings mean that radiance really was vanquished, the fact that the chains of the hollow knight broke too
Team Cherry said godseeker mode comes after the embrace the void ending. This is further shown by Godseeker's dialogue in that mode. They didn't say which variant. The shade lord is not made out of the Hollow Knight's shade as it comes out of the black egg temple in the embrace the void endings.
And basically because of this line "godseeker Mode happens after the Embrace of the Void ending" that i don't think Godmaster is the prequel or sequel of Silksong, i think Dream no More ending makes more sense to happen if Silksong is a sequel or a prequel.
What I don't understand what you main, in the embrace the void ending the shade lord comes out of the godseeker's body no ? And another thing is that the godseeker mode could be the dream of the godseeker répétition after the "embrace the void ending"
I believe I have said this before on a previous video that you have made, but the Shade Lord always struck me as the Void taking on a more physical form. We have seen that the Void has shown its own sentience, so it would make sense for the Shade Lord to be a form the Void takes to move around once the Knight reaches the summit of the Pantheon. As for what the Shade Lord does after it breaks out into Hallownest. I believe it would more than likely try to consume all light and life before returning to the abyss. We have seen that the void has wanted to break out of the abyss with how void tendrils attach to a King's guard outside the palace. Perhaps the Void's inherent darkness causes it to want to destroy light and life by instinct.
@@ohfrancotron8 What have you seen in the game that backs that up? Given the shade lord's aggressiveness, it doesn't seem like the Knight actually controls it.
@@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 It's not that the knight isn't in control, it's that there isn't anything to control. No cost to great. No mind to think. No will to break. There is nothing to control. Just mindless dedication. And the worst part is the knight choose to be this way. Godhome made it pure. Godhome made it never consider it's actions. Godhome made it never give up. There is nothing to control...
What I believe is that the Shade Lord would've probably done the same thing Radiance did to Hallownest. It would basically become its new ruler and consume Hallownest in darkness like Radiance consumed it in light and dreams. That is at least how I view it.
I feel like since the Grey Mourner is not from Hallownest it could be that the Grey Mourner is from the 'Lands Serene' a place outside of Hallownest and it could be that is also where Delicate Flower originated so if the 'Lands Serene' is powerful enough to like destroy or move the void then the place could be white but if the Shade Lord did consume Hallownest in the Embrace the Void Ending then if you give the Delicate Flower to Nailmaster Oro and Elderbug then i'm pretty sure they are teleported to the 'Lands Serene' but if the Delicate version of the Embrace the Void then i'm pretty sure that the Shade Lord got transported and who knows what happened to the 'Lands Serene' this is just a theory
The line "void given focus" always stuck out to me as peculiar. Your interpretation brings much needed clarity to this. Thank you!
Everyone always believed that the Shade Lord sought to consume or destroy Hallownest, after escaping godhome. But I always thought that it would just return to the abyss like the Void did in the dream no more ending.
If that is the case, then the last ending(s) is/are no longer a cliffhanger. But I could be wrong of course.
I thought the same thing, but when talking to my friend about it he brought up the counterpoint that even if the Shade Lord isn't intentionally being malicious or destructive, just its mere *presence* in Godhome seemed to mess everything up, so it entering Hallownest might cause trouble.
@@spectrethefox5450 that’s definitely possible.
Good Video but one Thing: I think the Hollow Knights Shade isnt part of the Shade Lord because in this ending the Hollow Knight does survive and as WE know a vessels Shade only appears when their Shell breaks but then again we don't even know if the radiance in the pantheon is somehow still Part of the Hollow Knights dream prison or not so who knows.
I completely forgot about that
The fact the infection died when we do the pantheon endings mean that radiance really was vanquished, the fact that the chains of the hollow knight broke too
Team Cherry said godseeker mode comes after the embrace the void ending. This is further shown by Godseeker's dialogue in that mode. They didn't say which variant. The shade lord is not made out of the Hollow Knight's shade as it comes out of the black egg temple in the embrace the void endings.
And basically because of this line "godseeker Mode happens after the Embrace of the Void ending" that i don't think Godmaster is the prequel or sequel of Silksong, i think Dream no More ending makes more sense to happen if Silksong is a sequel or a prequel.
What I don't understand what you main, in the embrace the void ending the shade lord comes out of the godseeker's body no ?
And another thing is that the godseeker mode could be the dream of the godseeker répétition after the "embrace the void ending"
I believe I have said this before on a previous video that you have made, but the Shade Lord always struck me as the Void taking on a more physical form. We have seen that the Void has shown its own sentience, so it would make sense for the Shade Lord to be a form the Void takes to move around once the Knight reaches the summit of the Pantheon.
As for what the Shade Lord does after it breaks out into Hallownest. I believe it would more than likely try to consume all light and life before returning to the abyss. We have seen that the void has wanted to break out of the abyss with how void tendrils attach to a King's guard outside the palace. Perhaps the Void's inherent darkness causes it to want to destroy light and life by instinct.
Shade given focus through the knight (whom the king deemed as the true hollow knight capable of embracing the void) is bent to the knights will
@@ohfrancotron8 What have you seen in the game that backs that up? Given the shade lord's aggressiveness, it doesn't seem like the Knight actually controls it.
@@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 It's not that the knight isn't in control, it's that there isn't anything to control.
No cost to great. No mind to think. No will to break.
There is nothing to control. Just mindless dedication. And the worst part is the knight choose to be this way. Godhome made it pure. Godhome made it never consider it's actions. Godhome made it never give up.
There is nothing to control...
@@lukea1533 True, the void is now in its purest and untamed form when the knight takes the form of the shade lord.
What I believe is that the Shade Lord would've probably done the same thing Radiance did to Hallownest. It would basically become its new ruler and consume Hallownest in darkness like Radiance consumed it in light and dreams. That is at least how I view it.
This is super interesting, I’ve never looked at it this way!
I never considered the Void would simply like to leave because it dislikes Dreams, neat
wow another great video
I feel like since the Grey Mourner is not from Hallownest it could be that the Grey Mourner is from the 'Lands Serene' a place outside of Hallownest and it could be that is also where Delicate Flower originated so if the 'Lands Serene' is powerful enough to like destroy or move the void then the place could be white but if the Shade Lord did consume Hallownest in the Embrace the Void Ending then if you give the Delicate Flower to Nailmaster Oro and Elderbug then i'm pretty sure they are teleported to the 'Lands Serene' but if the Delicate version of the Embrace the Void then i'm pretty sure that the Shade Lord got transported and who knows what happened to the 'Lands Serene' this is just a theory
Z'emer is not of Hallownest, that's right.
Great analysis!
hey i'm early :D
i'm sure it's a good video