New York Mets Bats Cover for Bullpen, But Help is Needed
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- The New York Mets scored six runs in the 10th inning on Monday night, and yet they almost lost the game.
Host Ryan Finkelstein breaks down a great start by David Peterson, another strong performance from the Mets lineup, and another bullpen meltdown.
Could Jose Butto be the answer to help their struggling bullpen right now?
When will Kodai Senga rejoin the Mets rotation now that he is beginning a rehab assignment?
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Every game is the same scenario! All the teams we face, are confident that even if they are 6 or 7 runs below, they can just wait the bullpen and suddenly they can win the game. This is unacceptable.
The Mets are just 5 games from the Braves now is the time to put this shit on high gear. Mets need to get some good pitching from the bullpen in order to compete.
Reinforcements are on the way with Sean Reid-Foley and Edwin Diaz set to return soon. Even then, it would probably make sense to see if you could swing a trade or two.
Stop pulling starters with only 75-85 pitches.
What Edwin Diaz did is inexcusable and it's a big part of the reason why the Mers lost a few of those games that we lost over this stretch of games he's out. I'm still upset about that
Mendoza punished the team and the fans by mismanaging the pitching in Diaz absence. He pulled Manaea, Quintana, Severino and Peterson too early in each game since Diaz suspension(average of 84 pitches).
He didn’t do anything! An umpire being on the rag isn’t his fault.
Don't know if the stats bear this out, but the pattern I'm seeing witg this bullpen is not being able to close out the game, regardless of who is sent out there.
Sort of proves the axium that closing the game is it's own beast.
What is an axium?
Ryan, you are 100% correct in using your best available talent to replace these bad relievers. I got to think that Stearns is floating them(Butto, Lucchesi & Megill) as trade bait and not wanting to negatively affect their value.
I have for a few years believed that Megill's best spot is as a bullpen arm. I hope he gets some run there, .. I think it could pay out.
@@dashx1103 He was used as a reliever in 2022. He was a disaster as a reliever. 6.00 ERA in 6 appearances with a .304 AVG against.
@@jamesbuckley8917 Yeah ... two seasons ago something happened. I get it. I like some of his stuff, and I don't write him off as a reliever because two seasons ago he struggled. Call me crazy, I guess.
Come on, Ryan. You should know better. The Pete Crow-Armstrong trade was a winner for the Mets.
Javier Báez was great for the Mets in 2022. In 47 games he batted .299 with 9 HR, 5 SB, 22 RBI and an OPS of .886.
Trevor Williams was also good for Mets. In 2021 Williams had an ERA of 3.06. In 2022 he was invaluable to the Mets as a long reliever and a spot starter. He posted an ERA of 3.21 that year
Meanwhile, what is Pete Crow-Armstrong besides a guy with three names? He isn't even a starter and with good reason. He's hitting .192 with 1 HR and an OPS of .520. Three years after that trade his career stats are .174 BA, 1 HR, and a .486 OPS.
True, he's a good defensive center fielder, but so are a lot of guys, including Bader.
The notion that the Mets got beat on that trade (and I hear it everywhere) is a misnomer.
To answer your question: NO. I wouldn't want Pete Crow-Armstrong patrolling the outfield for the Mets.
I've seen position players pitch cleaner innings than Vesta and Jay.
I've seen kid-casters make better pitching decisions than Mendoza.
DFA those fools only one can count on is nunez
@kenip9800 I have a theory about that, that is, how come position players often have better stats than relievers. My guess is that by the 9th inning the hitters are no longer concerned about padding their stats and want to end the game as quickly as possible.
@@GeraldM_inNC I think it depends on the individual hitter. Some guys seem perfectly happy to pad their stats against a position pitcher - others, not so much.
Festa
I agree with the majority of fans commented about get bullpen help as soon is possible otherwise the Mets can fall again without keeping this special run for reach a wildcard spot going..The Mets needs to make some decisions now: 1-Try to trade Jeff Mcneil with 1 of the elite prospect (10 to15 list) for a good proven reliever 95 miles plus fastball with some experience to be a setup pitcher before Diaz..2-Make drastic bullpen changes asap and get rid all ineffective pitchers: Matt Festa, Tyler Jay, Adam Ottavino, Sean Reid Foley, Danny Young and Ty Adcock needs to go to the minors or assignment..3-Bullpen now..Tylor Megill, Daniel Núñez, Edwin Diaz, Adrian Houser, Red Garret, Jake Diekman, Grant Hartwick..A setup quality pitcher mentioned before via trade..4- If Mcneil goes trade, bring immediately Luis A. Acuña to manage 2B with Iglesias..5-Give more respect (Mendoza) to Mark Vientos (After JD Martínez the best "clutch hitter" Mets has) defensively. He improved a lot and is playing great..Keep him in the lineup is a plus.6-Bring Scott and Butto to be starters. Rotation : 1-Severino, 2-Manaea,3-Scott, 4-Peterson 5-Butto and insert Senga when is totally ready..Trade Quintana for bullpen help..LETS GO METS!!!!
@guillermoestevez3193 I would gladly move Marte for bullpen help, and even kick in money.
I'll give you a box of Cracker Jack for McNeil.
Dear Luis Rojas Mendoza,
Please stop pulling one of your best hitters(Vientos) for 8th-9th inning defense.
Please stop pulling your starting pitchers with less than 100 pitches.
Please use Nunez in the 8th or 9th inning.
Thank you,
Every Met Fan
Batting average with RISP(2024):
Iglesias .615(1.590 OPS) ---> 8 for 13
Nimmo .356(1.094 OPS)
Martinez .328(1.052 OPS)
Alvarez .324(1.004 OPS)
Bader .311(.858 OPS)
Marte .311(.833 OPS)
Vientos .300(.731 OPS)
Stewart .243(.951 OPS)
Alonso .235(.767 OPS)
Taylor .226(.659 OPS)
Lindor .216(.677 OPS)
McNeil .190(.622 OPS)
Instead of Jay and Festa with no mlb experience Why diddnt they bring up walker who has some mlb experience Especialy that call they made for Festa to face a team like the astros at a crucial part of the game, was nerve recking for me and that goes without saying for Festa
Thinking they don't want to waste options on pitchers they may need later on.
Good question. Why did Luis Rojas Mendoza put Festa in a tied game in the 11 inning?
I have faith that Sterns will make some moves to fix this abomination you call a bullpen. They are horrible. When's the last time we saw a late inning reliever throw a 1-2-3 inning? You're right about trying some of the existing starters in the bullpen. They couldn't be any worse.
Stearns’ specialty in Milwaukee was building strong bullpens. I’m interested to see what he does after these recent blowups.
Nunez vs. Astros in 7-2 win a couple of days ago. 1-2-3 inning...8 pitches.
@4:30 you ask why make it more dicey? The entire bullpen is DICEY! A starter is a starter because he is a better pitcher. In all other positions they upgrade the defense later in the game. The Pitcher is the MOST IMPORTANT defensive position and yet, as the games goes on the position gets increasingly depreciated and often at the most critical moment they have the guy on the lowest wrung. Peterson should NOT have been taken out when he was! He easily could have gone another inning. Also, relievers have to go 2 innings so that the dregs at the bottom of the barrel are not in games at critical ju8nctures. Baseball has gone from dumb to stupid in how they use pitchers.
Luis Rojas Mendoza has no clue how to manage a pitching staff.
Don't know wtf Stearns is waiting for ,the minute we lost Diaz and Smith he needed to make a move not bring up bums ,and mendoza is clueless takes out Peterson with 86 pitches in the 6th did the same with serevino with 76 pitches vs the astros ,the man reminds me of Aaron Boone, mendoza be mismanagement of the bullpen ,and you take out one of our hottest bats out of the line up with a 1 run lead for defense, he's lucky it didn't bite him in the ass ,this bullpen is so bad no lead is safe the walks continues to hurt us ,but we won barely lol,
@@TheAvargas687 I never wanted to hire a coach trained by that incompetent Boone.
@GeraldM_inNC exactly he learned from that idiot ' remember how bad Boone was with his bullpen over working them ' taking starters out the minute he got worried ' well mendoza is doing the same thing with this bullpen ' just terrible in game decisions at times ' reminds me of that other idiot luis rojas
Unfortunately, most managers do this. Most of the in game moves are out of the managers hands. The analytics guru's make the decisions.
@@fr2ncm9 Which is why St. Louis fired Mike Schildt after he took them to the playoffs. He refused to be the puppet of the Analytics Department.
@TheAvargas687 Most Yankee fans have wanted Boone fired the last 3 seasons, but he sucks up to Cashman and Cashman sucks up to Steinbrenner. I don't understand how coaching for Boone can get anyone a managerial job.
The the are just two games behind the storming braves thanks 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 for Steve Cohen for being a winner 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇
Let's convert some of our "B" pitching propects like Hamel and Vasil as RPs. They will never be MLB starters and they can't be any worse of the RPs that we have now.
The Mets have a chance this year. You can be as optimistic as you wish but the fact remains that’s not always the case. So, as much as you want to prioritize the future, you have to consider the present. There is great importance given to the relief corps during the season but it is even greater if they reach the playoffs; you definitely must consider the present and immediate future if you’re considering a sustainable team through time; it is a much better calling card for signing Free Agents (Soto, for example) that may put you over the top.
Makes sense.
You don't build a sustainable team by losing first round draft picks because you are signing free agents to big contracts. I wouldn't go all in this year. This team has been very streaky. There is a high likelihood that they fade in September when they face the Phillies, Brewers, Braves and Red Sox.
@@fr2ncm9 If this bullpen gets straightened out. Not sure about them fading in September. If this is the bullpen for the rest of the season. Then Yea. And the only team that we should fear on your list is the Phillies. Those other 3 teams aren't scaring anyone.
@@cooldude7821 You're riding a June high. This is a very streaky team. While their offense looks solid, I don't trust their rotation. Right now, they have benefitted from playing losing teams and teams coming off of losing streaks like the Yanees and the Rangers. They have not faced a long stretch playing championship caliber teams.
@@fr2ncm9 If Senga can be 80 percent of 2023 Senga. If Scott continues doing what he's doing . If they add 2-3 relievers. No reason why they can't compete for 1 of the last 2 wildcards. Definitely a lot of ifs though. By no means am I saying division title/world series. You never know as Arizona & Texas showed us. But I'm talking realistically about a wild card.
The callups haven’t been on the major league level & then you have to go to tired arms bc they have to patchwork after 5 90% of the time. You then have an INDECISIVE manager who waits too long & is reactive & not proactive & COSTING METS GAMES!!!
Why haven’t the Mets recalled Buto? Is it contractual?
Butto is trade bait; can't let Mendoza ruin him.
It is sooo frustrating watching Mendoza make the same mistakes over and over again. He can't wait to take the ball from a starter and give it to a bum reliever. Again, again and again.
Fun game huh?!! Boy after Mets turn in tenth I'm closing my eyes drifting off thinking " surely a 6 run lead is more than enough... Surely!!" Then I'm lying there thinking " huh, couple runs, meh it'll be ok. Then they eventually get tying run to the plate and I'm thinking" no way..." All I can say is " whew!" But they won. That's what counts but I think they may need some uhh pen help maybe? Lgm
@matthewguzda4075 Dude, last week I turned off a game and went to bed confident we could "put it in the books" with a 6 run lead late. I was amazed next morning when I heard we only won by a run.
@@GeraldM_inNC right? They'll get help B4 the deadline. That hitting in the 10th was amazing tho. So glad for Iglesias. Ya know man they were so bad in May I thought no way they come back. Seemed like they had no heart. But this is what's great about baseball right? Peaks and valleys you are going for a ride if it's a good year. It's so nice to come home to watch them after work. It's the little things. Cheers man lgm!!
The mets are hungry two win a couple of championship's this year
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Ace in the holster? Is that like a bullet up one's sleeve?
Hope we keep Peterson. Way better than Megill.
I am a Jeff McNeil supporter, but wow, he is just useless at the plate. His defense is good and he can play 7 positions, but he just can't be batting every day. Just can't do it. At a minimum, he must lose playing time vs. righties and let Iglesias get half the starts, not just 30% of them with lefties on the opposing mound.
They bring up trash relievers use Megill or Butto or luccashi . because what they have now won't cut it .
Lucchesi
@@jamesbuckley8917 wow you know how to spell lucchesi nerd baseball
Can the mets beat up on the dreadful teams
Diaz continues to lose us games.
Mendoza is the reason.
You're still thinking the Mets have a shot this year. This is fools gold my friend. There's no trade that this team can make right now that's going to catapult them into a World Series hopeful. If I'm David Stearns right now I seriously listening to offers on everybody in this lineup but only if we're talking about bonafide blue chip prospects. People laugh at me when I say this but right now the Nationals are further along in developing a team that can truly compete than the Mets are. There are no shortcuts on this journey, my friend. You're either up and coming or on your way out in this game.
The current lineup as it stands is good enough to compete. It's the worthless bullpen that needs to go.
I can definitely see why people are laughing at you. That's a ridiculous statement.
So tell us who will win the World Series, so we can tell all the other teams to just go home, and quit wasting our time.
Lots of wannabe major league pitchers in Mets bullpen. Jay looked horrible in a very easy assignment. Diekman needs to go. He never does anything with ease.....he complicated his appearances by trying to be too crafty when it's just necessary to throw strikes and challenge opponents. I would not at all be surprised to see Baty traded at the deadline. Hed probably handle a smaller market team and I'm sure there's teams interested in pursuing him. Vientos has proven to be a better option for the Mets and with all the prospects.... like Acuna and Williams and Mauricio.....hes really a tough fit in the Mets system moving forward.
That's not going to happen.The Mets have no intention of signing Alonso. Any long-term deal will age poorly. This is a streaky team. They need to build for the future, not roll the dice on a wildcard berth that because of their September schedule, they are unlikely to win. This team has a solid core of young infielders and some pitching prospects that will make them competitive next season. I think the Mets will be cautious buyers at the deadline.
@@fr2ncm9Unfortunately...my friend..... you don't have a crystal ball to look at regarding Pete staying in NY. I agree that his contract won't age well and the market knows this as well. Who really knows at this moment what someone will offer him and what the Mets are willing to match??? There's plenty of time to figure that out and I doubt they move him at the deadline while the Mets are in the wildcard race
The METS almost blew it because MENDOZA made the same mistake twice. First, he took out SEVERINO when he could have pitched one moee inning and he did the same thing with PETERSON.
Whom would watch these Metropolitan Ball men knowing they won’t win? DEFANERIZE. Mets in 2186.