Keep on Gakken in the free world: Frogger & Shigaisen 200X-nen | NES Works Gaiden (Gakken) 58
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- čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
- It's the final chapter of my Gakken TV Boy retrospective series, and now we can all move along with our lives, no better for the experience. You're welcome.
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TV Boy footage recorded from original hardware, modded for S-Video output by Christa Lee of Sound Retro Co. NES/Famicom footage captured from @analogueinc Nt Mini; SG-1000 footage recorded from Analogue Mega Sg Video; arcade footage generally captured from a MiSTer. All capture upscaled to 720 with an xRGB Mini Framemeister. - Hry
Congrats on completing the series!!! I laughed a lot at your breakdown of Frogger’s basic gameplay. I never thought about how ridiculous it was that Frogger couldn’t swim before now lol
It's not that he can't swim, it's that he's carrying a suitcase of what I can only assume is is prized rock collection.
Gakken TV Boy makes the SG-1000 look like a paragon of raw pixel pushing might in comparrison
Sad part is the SG-1000 is pretty much a Colecovision under the hood which means it could push pixels, but the games for it look like they were made by a drunk 6 year old with melted crayons...
A lot of my young Frogger experience was the Coleco Mini LCD arcade machine. It was probably more responsive than the Gakken.
These explorations of "lost" systems has been a delight. Thank you as always for your work.
👍👍👍
Usually when I watch a series and it ends, I feel a little sad. Here, not so much, but at least I learned more about gaming history.
“I thought happiness was Gakken TV Boy in my rearview mirror
I said goodbye to Mr. Bomb, goodbye to Frogger”
"Ballistic Mathematics" would be a great band name.
Given the choice of video for the eye catch, I guess we're Gakken Down The House.
Not that I care much about the TB Boy, but it’s always fun hearing Jeremy describe the “plot” of a game like Frogger.
Pink lady frog? Froggy went a courtin' and he did die, uh-huh.
I showed my mother who has some interest in how game visuals evolve the games in this video and she was really surprised. It's always interesting how much things change in a relatively short time. Yes I know it was basically a millenia in technology time, but still!
I spent a few weeks looking through every TCRF entry in chronological order and came to the conclusion that 1981 is when raster game graphics started to become good.
*Nardwuar voice* "Can you tell me about the MARIO GALAXY song? 🎤"
Jeremy: "Wooooow that's craaazy bruh how did you know about that?"
"You're Jeremy Parish, we HAVE to know!"
😭
I'm sorry......... what?
phenomenal reference
Doot doo da loo doo...
(Jeremy Parish voice) Uh... doot doot.
Damn, this channel is such a gem. Thank you so much for documenting these games
Truly a console of all time.
Man the Gakken TV Boy definitely took RGB display to a whole other level.
Very R, extremely G, and certainly B
Kinda puts into perspective why both the Famicom and Atari 2600 had such muted colors.
Hey, I'm Gakken here. (Ok, humourous twists on famous movie quote is done). Frogger seems like it's very not fun on the TV Boy. NotCombat seems like fun though.
I lost count of how many conversions of Frogger there are. In the 80s, since Sega handled US distribution, the Sega branding was on all conversions in the US. This also included the Coleco LED arcade handheld and, believe it or not, the board game. Yes, MB made a Frogger board game back in the 80s, and I have one.
The gap between physical game releases and Stinkoman: 20X6 is narrowing… and I couldn’t be happier
Ohhhhh...
I'm tired of this city!
All this toil and strife!
Trying to cross the boulevard!
Playing Frogger with my life!
FROGGER WITH MY LIFE! (my life!)
FROGGER WITH MY LIFE! (my life!)
Nice Bad Religion reference. 👍
Thanks JP... waka waka..
Jeremy look like the cool grandpa you wanna have.
Always did 🔫🧑🚀
(headscratch) I mean, I think the man's about my age, so I guess it's _technically_ possible that he could be a grandfather, but any grandkids would probably be, like, babies.
What about cool uncle?
@@JetstreamGW well well maybe.
That’s a young grandpa
@@rafe9852 and a cool one.
Fozzie Bear will undoubtedly bring terrible puns forth into my nightmares tonight. Thanks, Jeremy!
I don't understand it :( Why did he use Fozzy Bear with Frog game that says hop-hop-hop and not Pac game that says Wocka Wocka Wocka? :D
gakken heads
I mean, this port of Frogger is punching above its weight on an underpowered system, but all of the pieces are there. A lot of the home ports simplified the tile-based movement to (when moving the joystick) simply shifting the player one frogger length over without any animation (see the 2600 version, or the Vic20 version, for example). Heck, this chunky movement even seems at home on the Coleco tabletop VFD handheld without losing what made the game fun. Frogger, like Tetris, can thrive within an abstraction of very clunky movement, and still feel playable, responsive, and reasonably accurate to the source material. Were there better ways to play in 1983? Undoubtedly, but even still, this doesn't seem like an unworthy compromise of a port.
I for one can't wait for the TV Boy coffee table book. The slight wobble can only fixed by a six game system, in paperback of course.
That chicken comment reminded of the frogger clone, I used to play as a kid, for the atari 2600. It's called freeway and it's just a chicken trying to cross the highway forever.
I am glad to see the return of your crappy video camera from the 1980s.
It’s not really a return so much as a case of this episode having been produced last year
@@JeremyParish Well I am still trying to build up a video reserve so I can have some editing breathing room. In my latest video it has a mashup of footage filmed months apart in different states of facial hair and no one is commenting in it, they are arguing about Xbox 360 theories instead.
I have some final cut pro plugins that can simulate a VCR but there is nothing like the real analog thing
Shigaisen 200X-nen also has a bit of Armor Attack in it's DNA
honestly, shigaisen 200-x looks pretty fun
leap? get it? also suddenly reminded of the sad end to that frogger machine in the seinfeld episode.... 'game over,' indeed. the combat-like seems interesting at least, with heavy emphasis on reflecting shots.
Seeing that Mr. Bomb footage reminded me of a question that’s been plaguing me for… a week or two I guess: why was Mike Ditka dropping cartoon bombs from atop a wall again?
Looking up other Frogger ports, quite a few of them aren't exactly lookers either. Plenty of systems were less capable than the arcade machine. However, some of the ports that didn't have the resolution to have five lanes on each side of the meridian split the game into two screens (road and river), presumably flipping once you reach the meridian. Certainly a solution Gakken could have opted for.
The way this Frogger version was eviscerated feels almost wrong- too mean. Goerge Costanza is a dreadful thing to call someone... but if there ever was something that looked the part, I guess this would be it.
Though out of curiosity, how do you decide WHAT angle you shoot at in 20XX? Do you control which direction the shot goes, or do you just press the angle-fire button and hope for the best?
i guess i haven't noticed this before but NES Works is going to go up to December 1997? what came out for NES in 1997?
That's another Japanese exclusive obscura down. Is the Casio PV-1000 on the horizon?
If you were a video patron you’d already be four episodes into the PV-1000 lineup 😞
Hey, it looks like you've put the wrong description on this. Looks like the description was copied over from last entry and not updated.
love ya, Jeremy!!!
Gakken TV makes any game by LJN look like Breath of the Wild.
My first console was a Gakken LCD Card Game "Jumping Boy". Clearly a Frogger clone, but I loved it.
Loool, that Trump shot came outta nowhere. Well done
that's fun
Shigaisen 200x might be more drawing from Targ specifically than Combar
This frogger gameplay isn’t exactly….toasty.
Let's go!
Why can't the frog swim?
Needs the morph ball?
I dont understand why Fozzie Bear pops up in the middle of this video. Other than the fact that Fozzie rules
Seth Robinson? Like Legend of the Red Dragon? Neet
So would you call TV Boy Frogger the 一人の天王 of the system?
The "shitennou," emphasis on the first four characters of the word
@@JeremyParish pun attempt failed, I guess.
Vextrex's take on Shigaisen is the best port, imo
Seth "Dink Smallwood/LORD" Robinson?
I rarely think of a console itself as bad- even unsuccessful systems usually have a few games on them that show what might have been. And every system has plenty of games where the devs are struggling against the limitations of the hardware, Hell, that's usually where the good stuff is. But it really feels like the TV Boy was just not designed to do much of anything. Everything from the color palette to the controls feels off. It feels strictly worse than the VCS which, while it wasn't popular in Japan, at least existed as a point of reference.
At least the tank game was good.
lol I never thought about that. He IS a frog, why does he die in water 🤷♂️
Did anyone actually bother to even buy console when it was new.
No, it was a complete failure
Just like me
I think the worst port of Frogger that I know of is the one published/shamelessly stolen from the garbage by Keypunch Games.
As I recall, it runs too fast even on period software, the game speeds up after you depart the bottom curb, and since the timer runs so fast, you're liable to time out even on the first level.
As for the tank game, I think I'll stick to either Tank Wars or Tanks! on the Wii/Switch.
damn the Gakken looks like crap
Oh come on how do you fail at porting Frogger-oww my eyes.
Man frogger totally took inspiration from crossy road! Seriously though, this frogger version looks bad. Even the videopac seems to be better
That color palette is horrible