from a drivers point of view anton i feel that the modern mainstay single deck buses from wrights & adl are no where near as good to drive as the equiv decker. compare the new wright single decks,streetlite they call it,with the volvo wright & the single decker is much inferior,in so many ways.compared to a merc citaro,the rolls royce of single deckers,imo,the equiv single decks from adl & wrights are way behind.another thing ive noticed is the build quality of new wright deckers is much better than the single deck streetlite from wrights.
The most interesting video on CZcams ever!!! For passengers new buses look sometimes like very complicated robots. Electronics everywhere and in every bus very different. Then I really miss the old and easy routemasters with their friendly and personal atmosphere. Your explanation helps us to understand new buses. They will never be the same. Thank you Anton!
I totally agree with you about the safety interlocks on busses now Anton, at my depot we have a bunch of Enviro 400s which are rigged with all sorts of safety interlocks which always break and then they have to be taken back into depot to be fixed, whereas our Volvo Wrightbus products are much nicer to drive being more driver friendly, we have B10BLE Wright Renowns, B7L/B7rle eclipses and B9TL eclipse Geminis
Sorry I'm replying late to you Jonny. I haven't read these comments for 5 years. I hope you are well. Regarding the safety interlocks on buses, it seems its here to stay. It's good I managed to drive the older buses when I did back in 2002 to 2012 up in the north.
Those movieken screens are the new style iBus screens - they have them on the new BYD enviro 200s on routes 507 and 521. They are very similar to the passenger information displays on the new class 345 on the Elizabeth lines as they are more informative than the standard dot matrix screens.
Hi Anton. Hope your well. Our year old Scania E400 MMC's are the same. When you put your foot down on the gas pedal, nothing happens! Until about a second or so later. Because of this they can be frustrating to drive when joining roundabouts and pulling out of busy junctions. The brakes are nice and smooth though and the ride is generally quiet and refined. But I prefer the old Scania' E400's that actually react as soon as the gas is touched.
Absolutely love cadets, only had small engines though and could be underpowered at times especially if not maintained well, the short versions were fine but the longer ones could struggle as they got older, the Volvo engined ones with 10L engines were Wright Renowns which are almost identical except longer and slightly different lights, true workhorses
Railwork F4nTaZ ...yes I drove cadets and commanders at k line bus in Huddersfield around 2009-2011. I drove the longer Renown (larger wheels) at first bus Halifax when in loan to them from Huddersfield First 2002-2009. 😀👍
DoubleDeckerAnton still got a large batch of Volvo B10BLEs with the Wright Renown body here in Aberdeen. They're away to turn 17 years old soon and currently getting refurbished. Really are true workhorses, most reliable buses here and the drivers love them.
That handbrake release is like most parking brakes on modern cars. Only if it’s using a button parking brake though. It’s far more ideal but I’m not sure what the handbrake is like on a bus. The brakes are regenerative so it’s likely it’s got older technology which makes the braking bad.
Hi Anton great to hear from you again. Lothian Buses in Edinburgh have got 6 electric powered Wright bodied mini Buses & there’s more to follow sometime in 2018. Stagecoach in Inverness took delivery of around 8 or 10 electric powered Optares for town service work abt 2 years ago. So it won’t be long till every bus & coach is powered by electric Mate.
Spazgls think they only seat 25 or 35 folk. So they’re no much bigger than the old Dennis Dart with Alexander Dash body for example. Volvo B6s were also made on that body with a nearside radiator grill. The low floor body P reg upwards also had the same engine with the grill on the same side. I think they were also more or less the first Alexander’s low floor bodies. Sorry I meant midi NOT mini.
I'm glad that you covered how the hybrid buses seem to "lurch" when the driver has his or her foot on the break pedal... it's something that i recently noticed on an electric bus myself and tried to put down to my imagination.
Your pretty much right Anton the Volvo B10BLES with Wright RENOWN bodywork are the best buses ever built those buses are so well built and i I love them to bits but the one your driving here is a Wright cadet
I know in later life everything will be Electric Powered . But you cannot beat an old Volvo B10M as they were brilliant to work on & travel on also. I’ve got a Volvo B10M badge on front of my Mobility Scooter as that’s how much I love them Anton. 👍
The longer version of these buses with the Volvo B10BLE engine are called Renowns. The longer body was also available on a Scania L94UB and this was called Wright Axcess-Floline
The B10BLE is a whole chassis not just an engine. They could have been one of three types actually. The Renown bodied B10BLE is the later low floor version, but then there was also the earlier low floor version (Liberator bodied B10L) and the stepped entrance version (Endurance bodied B10B)
Also, those buses weren’t really “longer versions of” the Cadet (which was Wright’s first integral bus, long before the “Street” series) the Electrocity was based on. The Commander body for the VDL SB200 would better fall into that category.
Ah, that makes sense now! I know there's a short cut through the flats where your normal stand is, but saves time. I was on a 176 while a 12 was carefully negotiating parking in front of your old E type bus!
The BYD Buses you mentioned at 1:24, the battery system is built by BYD, but the actual bus body is an Enviro200 made by ADL in Falkirk or Scarborough. They did a collaboration and they called it the Enviro200 EV😄
The Wright bodied Volvo B10s you were referring to could have been one of three models: Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown (later low floor)Volvo B10L / Wright Liberator (earlier low floor)Volvo B10B / Wright Endurance (stepped entrance)
I think you should consider getting a test-drive of a Tesla Model S or X. Yes, it's a car, but it's a truly "modern" electric car. Would love to see your reaction, because it had the most "direct" feel of any vehicle I have ever driven. Just shows how great electronics can be if done right (the brakes were linear as well). The responsiveness of the electric motor without any clutch / transmission cannot be described with words. When you do a kick-down, the car starts accelerating (rapidly and silently) even before the pedal hits the floor. Just amazing...
Weird, a day later you said that, while walking I peeked at Wood Green Bus Garage and I saw so many of enviro 200’s I think, dunno if they are hybrid though. There must be at least 5. Wonder what route they are going to use it for.
I am guessing the New Routemasters are similar as they use the same system as Electrocities. I know what you mean, this weird smooth feeling but stopping too soon.
For anyone wondering these are based on the Wright Cadet/Commander body the hybrids were the very last classic bodied Wright’s built as the diesels were taken out of production in 2007. I used to love the Renown bodied Volvo B10BLEs up were I live there is only 2 left in service and they will be withdrawn soon and I feel that they were better built than the new bodied Wright’s the Pulsars can rattle like crazy
I done some more research on these they are the same as a Cadet they have a modified VDL/DAF SB120 chassis (except for 1 prototype which had a Dennis Dart SLF chassis which the SB120 is a basically a copy of, they are indeed the very last of the "proper" Wright bodies.
BYD's headquarter is in Shenzhen shares border with Hong Kong, so that may cause some confusion. But those BYD buses build for Hong Kong are performing really poorly, for example, poor hill climbing ability, poor air con, wheelspin when wet etc. In fact, the very first electric bus build for Hong Kong (not sure if it was BYD) was Chinese build, and it caught fire the night before it went into test. 😂😂😂
Hey Anton you know the the BYD1474 I was on that once and was walking down the stairs and the bus driver put on his brakes and I fell down the stairs slammed into the wall that was next to the stairs. And me and my friend just laughed. It didn’t hurt I was fine.
U now on the 360!? I was playing in orchestra at the Albert Hall about 3 weeks ago and I saw one of those Wright cadets Edit: remembered what they were called, forgot it was a cadet
When you said hydraulic did you actually mean pneumatic or air operated? Because loads of components on a bus (as well as a lorry or a train) are operated by air, e.g. brake, handbrake, doors. These components draw air from air tanks (a bus usually has more than one air tank), which are topped up by compressors driven by the engine. These components are trigerred by operating the valves so that the they're connected or seperated from the air tanks. When the desired valve is open, the air in the air tanks applys force to the designated direction due to the difference of air pressure in the air tank (~10-12 bars) and in the atmosphere (~1 bar)
Any bus body on the Euro VI Volvo B5LH chassis have this rather annoying whining noise sometimes, like Gemini 3s on the routes 114, 140 & 182. Sometimes it's on, other times its off. I don't know what it is though
These aren't the 1st hybrids, the st hybrids were the east lancs myleniumm which were gas powered I think..... Which were brought following the myleniumm dome opening
No because they are just a combustion engine that runs on a different fuel still driving through a convential gearbox, and no electric motor. Hybrid gas bus though, I wonder if any actually exist :-P
from a drivers point of view anton i feel that the modern mainstay single deck buses from wrights & adl are no where near as good to drive as the equiv decker. compare the new wright single decks,streetlite they call it,with the volvo wright & the single decker is much inferior,in so many ways.compared to a merc citaro,the rolls royce of single deckers,imo,the equiv single decks from adl & wrights are way behind.another thing ive noticed is the build quality of new wright deckers is much better than the single deck streetlite from wrights.
...I agree Dave...the double deckers are so much better...!!!
I've been told the Mercedes Citaros are the best in the bus-iness...!!!
Good morning @@DoubleDeckerAnton What is your favorite electric bus drive
The most interesting video on CZcams ever!!! For passengers new buses look sometimes like very complicated robots. Electronics everywhere and in every bus very different. Then I really miss the old and easy routemasters with their friendly and personal atmosphere. Your explanation helps us to understand new buses. They will never be the same. Thank you Anton!
Brilliant video Anton! The 360 seems to be the electric route!
Harvey Dee ...yes it is..! 😀👍
I totally agree with you about the safety interlocks on busses now Anton, at my depot we have a bunch of Enviro 400s which are rigged with all sorts of safety interlocks which always break and then they have to be taken back into depot to be fixed, whereas our Volvo Wrightbus products are much nicer to drive being more driver friendly, we have B10BLE Wright Renowns, B7L/B7rle eclipses and B9TL eclipse Geminis
Sorry I'm replying late to you Jonny. I haven't read these comments for 5 years. I hope you are well.
Regarding the safety interlocks on buses, it seems its here to stay. It's good I managed to drive the older buses when I did back in 2002 to 2012 up in the north.
Those movieken screens are the new style iBus screens - they have them on the new BYD enviro 200s on routes 507 and 521. They are very similar to the passenger information displays on the new class 345 on the Elizabeth lines as they are more informative than the standard dot matrix screens.
Hi Anton. Hope your well. Our year old Scania E400 MMC's are the same. When you put your foot down on the gas pedal, nothing happens! Until about a second or so later. Because of this they can be frustrating to drive when joining roundabouts and pulling out of busy junctions. The brakes are nice and smooth though and the ride is generally quiet and refined. But I prefer the old Scania' E400's that actually react as soon as the gas is touched.
Absolutely love cadets, only had small engines though and could be underpowered at times especially if not maintained well, the short versions were fine but the longer ones could struggle as they got older, the Volvo engined ones with 10L engines were Wright Renowns which are almost identical except longer and slightly different lights, true workhorses
Railwork F4nTaZ - The long ones where called Commanders m8
No they're VDL SB200s with a bigger engine, there's different length cadets
Railwork F4nTaZ ...yes I drove cadets and commanders at k line bus in Huddersfield around 2009-2011.
I drove the longer Renown (larger wheels) at first bus Halifax when in loan to them from Huddersfield First 2002-2009. 😀👍
DoubleDeckerAnton still got a large batch of Volvo B10BLEs with the Wright Renown body here in Aberdeen. They're away to turn 17 years old soon and currently getting refurbished. Really are true workhorses, most reliable buses here and the drivers love them.
I once saw a bus driver on the phone... in his cab..... while driving.... and carrying passengers in service! Madness!
That handbrake release is like most parking brakes on modern cars. Only if it’s using a button parking brake though. It’s far more ideal but I’m not sure what the handbrake is like on a bus. The brakes are regenerative so it’s likely it’s got older technology which makes the braking bad.
I wish I got a new ringmaster bus🙂
Wish I could have one,
I still go on the 50
vivien blob ...new routemaster is nice...it's different from the 2 door traditional buses. 👍
Great video, and some useful information!
Sam Rogers ..thanks Sam 😀
Nice Video Anton! Great review of the electric wright renown!
Back when Anton was rocking out You Tube videos all the time 😊 😊
I like the Alexander Dennis it's my favourite bus nice vis I also like the Wright bodied bus and its engine
What an amazing bus Anton! Well done! Nice history + review of it
LondonBuses1503 ...yes I try and review a bus on the limited time I have at a terminus! Sometimes I have no time at all!
Fair enough! That's awful sometimes you get no time! I think at least 10 mins stand whatever route.
Hi Anton great to hear from you again. Lothian Buses in Edinburgh have got 6 electric powered Wright bodied mini Buses & there’s more to follow sometime in 2018. Stagecoach in Inverness took delivery of around 8 or 10 electric powered Optares for town service work abt 2 years ago. So it won’t be long till every bus & coach is powered by electric Mate.
Spazgls think they only seat 25 or 35 folk. So they’re no much bigger than the old Dennis Dart with Alexander Dash body for example. Volvo B6s were also made on that body with a nearside radiator grill. The low floor body P reg upwards also had the same engine with the grill on the same side. I think they were also more or less the first Alexander’s low floor bodies. Sorry I meant midi NOT mini.
I'm glad that you covered how the hybrid buses seem to "lurch" when the driver has his or her foot on the break pedal... it's something that i recently noticed on an electric bus myself and tried to put down to my imagination.
Your pretty much right Anton the Volvo B10BLES with Wright RENOWN bodywork are the best buses ever built those buses are so well built and i I love them to bits but the one your driving here is a Wright cadet
I passed my test in one and found them awful to drive.
I love the old style Wright bodies, great video 👍
Great video anton 👍
Thank you tell all different types bus
Luke Ali
Yes...Il try cover all the different types of bus! 😊
Nice video ;)
Can you upload a video where you talk about Mercedes Benz Citaro please? thank you :)
Great video
I love your content
Dusty Broadcast ..thanks dusty 😀
The Wright Cadet was used on the DAF / VDL SB120 chassis, the Wright Liberator was on the Volvo B10L and the Wright Renown was on the Volvo B10BLE.
I actually really like the Electrocity. Shame that they have all departed. Great video.
I know in later life everything will be Electric Powered . But you cannot beat an old Volvo B10M as they were brilliant to work on & travel on also. I’ve got a Volvo B10M badge on front of my Mobility Scooter as that’s how much I love them Anton. 👍
Also Anton if you do want someone to film you driving, I can happily do so whenever you want to. You can email me or drop a comment on my channel.
BusesInLondon ..thanks ..I appreciate it...a family member said he would try and film a few things these next few months!
ok thats fine but the offer still stands regardless :)
BusesInLondon Lol. I thought of doing that too! :). I would love to film DDA’s bus and film with you!
Great video, Anton, these buses are now running on the 286!!
GamingOnWheels - Gaming&Travel ...that's nice...where does the 286 run from?
DoubleDeckerAnton Not too sure but it is a GAL route in Greenwich!!
DoubleDeckerAnton Greenwich, Cutty Sark to Queen Mary's Hospital!
GamingOnWheels - Gaming&Travel I live near u
DoubleDeckerAnton A new garage called Morden Wharf (MG)
Nice video Anton, I see you filmed this before the SEes came into service a few weeks ago.
BusesInLondon ..I did yes...!! 😀
The longer version of these buses with the Volvo B10BLE engine are called Renowns. The longer body was also available on a Scania L94UB and this was called Wright Axcess-Floline
The B10BLE is a whole chassis not just an engine. They could have been one of three types actually. The Renown bodied B10BLE is the later low floor version, but then there was also the earlier low floor version (Liberator bodied B10L) and the stepped entrance version (Endurance bodied B10B)
Also, those buses weren’t really “longer versions of” the Cadet (which was Wright’s first integral bus, long before the “Street” series) the Electrocity was based on. The Commander body for the VDL SB200 would better fall into that category.
LOL the Cadet is a body for the VDL SB120 chassis, not an integral. brain dead moment!!!
The short ones are Cadet's, the long ones Commanders. We had them here over in the Netherlands too.
I like the wright Cadet buses.
Wright electrocity wow this bus rocks this bus has good engine I don't know when it got withdrawn
Hi Anton, it's GamingOnWheels, me and my friends saw you coincidentally on Saturday at Vauxhall Bus Station if you remember, great meeting you :)
These are VDL SB220 Wright Electrocities. Its very similar to a wright cadet on the SB200 chassis and the commander on the SB220 / SB200 chassis
I assume you'll have driven the B10BLE Wright Renown at Halifax?
Spotted you again Anton. For some reason you parked at the 12 stand, rather than at your normal stand by the primary school yesterday.
MP's Newswatch ..yes sometimes i use the toilet at the 12 stand!
Ah, that makes sense now! I know there's a short cut through the flats where your normal stand is, but saves time. I was on a 176 while a 12 was carefully negotiating parking in front of your old E type bus!
Thanks
The BYD Buses you mentioned at 1:24, the battery system is built by BYD, but the actual bus body is an Enviro200 made by ADL in Falkirk or Scarborough. They did a collaboration and they called it the Enviro200 EV😄
The Wright bodied Volvo B10s you were referring to could have been one of three models:
Volvo B10BLE / Wright Renown (later low floor)Volvo B10L / Wright Liberator (earlier low floor)Volvo B10B / Wright Endurance (stepped entrance)
The longer versions are Wright renowns and the shorter versions are cadets
My profile pic is a renown
Cool
BTW thx u cause before I couldn't tell a cadet and a renown apart
I think you should consider getting a test-drive of a Tesla Model S or X. Yes, it's a car, but it's a truly "modern" electric car. Would love to see your reaction, because it had the most "direct" feel of any vehicle I have ever driven. Just shows how great electronics can be if done right (the brakes were linear as well). The responsiveness of the electric motor without any clutch / transmission cannot be described with words. When you do a kick-down, the car starts accelerating (rapidly and silently) even before the pedal hits the floor. Just amazing...
have you drive the Gemini it so clean and has good control plus it comes in the Go ahead version
Ah yes a Wright cadet absolute flying machines
Great video Anton did u know wrightbus have new, fully electric buses running in Scotland for Lothian?
Please film inside the cab and show me the bus company and the bus route.
Weird, a day later you said that, while walking I peeked at Wood Green Bus Garage and I saw so many of enviro 200’s I think, dunno if they are hybrid though. There must be at least 5. Wonder what route they are going to use it for.
Nottingham city transport have a few of them, I see them when I do the 327 nx
Great video, it's a Wright Cadet so has it been converted to hybrid or was it already hybrid?
TheTransportHub UK ....it started as a cadet in body but finished up as a hybrid (large white thing on the rear of the roof)
DoubleDeckerAnton I thought it would have started as a cadet and thanks for the information.
Nah. Cadet - Commander - Electrocity
Finished.
I am guessing the New Routemasters are similar as they use the same system as Electrocities. I know what you mean, this weird smooth feeling but stopping too soon.
London Buses ...yes...thanks for understanding....they are difficult to drive smooth..!!! ☺
For anyone wondering these are based on the Wright Cadet/Commander body the hybrids were the very last classic bodied Wright’s built as the diesels were taken out of production in 2007. I used to love the Renown bodied Volvo B10BLEs up were I live there is only 2 left in service and they will be withdrawn soon and I feel that they were better built than the new bodied Wright’s the Pulsars can rattle like crazy
I done some more research on these they are the same as a Cadet they have a modified VDL/DAF SB120 chassis (except for 1 prototype which had a Dennis Dart SLF chassis which the SB120 is a basically a copy of, they are indeed the very last of the "proper" Wright bodies.
Hi Anton, Great videos. Can you discuss bus breakdowns and the process of reporting problems. Cheers
Could you please cover the enviro 200mmc BYD and the citaro please.
The BYD E200EVs are amazing!! Shame that they don't have the new iBus model though...
BYD (Build your dreams) are from mainland china not Hong Kong
wclifton968 ...thanks....I was always told Hong Kong by many drivers...I'm still learning. .!!! 📚😁
BYD's headquarter is in Shenzhen shares border with Hong Kong, so that may cause some confusion. But those BYD buses build for Hong Kong are performing really poorly, for example, poor hill climbing ability, poor air con, wheelspin when wet etc. In fact, the very first electric bus build for Hong Kong (not sure if it was BYD) was Chinese build, and it caught fire the night before it went into test. 😂😂😂
Bus and Lorry Driver Saint Leonard that sounds wonderful
DoubleDeckerAnton BYD-Bring your diesel(joke)
In new Zealand some of the new Zealand bus drivers do film in the driver area on buses and show all the parts of the bus nz bus don't have driver cab.
Yes, its nice to see other drivers filming from other countries.
Hey Anton you know the the BYD1474 I was on that once and was walking down the stairs and the bus driver put on his brakes and I fell down the stairs slammed into the wall that was next to the stairs. And me and my friend just laughed. It didn’t hurt I was fine.
Route 699 run by UNŌ
If possible try to cover a Volvo B7TL or Dennis Trident with ALX 400 bodywork
RailSceneIreland ....Il try and do a video on them! 😀
A lot are leaving london in 2017.
DoubleDeckerAnton Lovely stuff, same here in Dublin, sad to see them go, probably the best buses we ever had
could you do a video where we watch you drive the bus with a cam in the cab
Hi anton brill video. Please can you do cab views on the bus thanks
When ever I see this, I think of 360 turning to terminate.
Jon Snow, Orlando Bloom, Penn and Teller type Bus Drive
One pun for this bus!
"Ummmm.... WHY does this bus don't have a back window?"
Many names but one of the long body's are called 'Renown(s)'. This was the name if the chassi was a Volvo B10BLE.
The 286 is like that as well
wright buses are made just around the corner from me
Movie Ken is supposed to be a destination display board
U now on the 360!? I was playing in orchestra at the Albert Hall about 3 weeks ago and I saw one of those Wright cadets
Edit: remembered what they were called, forgot it was a cadet
Hi
Aberdeen Bus Videos hello :D
5:55 they are called renowns often on B10ble chassis
I’m going to start national express blogs, would people be interested?
I'd say Yes. I've not seen anyone do National Express blogs. Just be yourself and be informative.
By the way does [COMPANY CENSORED] at your garage still have any Gemini 1s left?
When you said hydraulic did you actually mean pneumatic or air operated? Because loads of components on a bus (as well as a lorry or a train) are operated by air, e.g. brake, handbrake, doors. These components draw air from air tanks (a bus usually has more than one air tank), which are topped up by compressors driven by the engine. These components are trigerred by operating the valves so that the they're connected or seperated from the air tanks. When the desired valve is open, the air in the air tanks applys force to the designated direction due to the difference of air pressure in the air tank (~10-12 bars) and in the atmosphere (~1 bar)
I think the other model of this wright body is called the renown. Not sure.
It got given to Morden wharf garage Greenwich
Yes I'm wondering where it is now in 2023.
Any bus body on the Euro VI Volvo B5LH chassis have this rather annoying whining noise sometimes, like Gemini 3s on the routes 114, 140 & 182. Sometimes it's on, other times its off. I don't know what it is though
The longer ones are wright renowns
Thanks. Yes the Volvo ones were Renowns I remember in Halifax.
I knew this was the first Hybrid! As it look like a Wright Cadet a bit, but its not. Wright Cadets are old, so this Wright Electrocity is old!
The bus your driving is a renown (I think)
Is that the 360
Do you know about add on London for OMSI 2
Can you do a video on route training?
I wanted to ask are buses manually or automatic
Did these get scrapped or go to another company
nice video byd :(
Can you tell about really noise bus please
Luke Ali ...yes Il try and get one! 😀
10:03 **saw someone smoking on the bus last year**
Yh I seen the new ones on the 360 bus
Why aren’t London buses built in the UK?
DIONNE FRANCIS-BROWN most london buses are British built
Wrightbus is built in Northern Ireland which is UK and Alex Dennis is built in Scotland
ADL is also built in Guildford I think
DIONNE FRANCIS-BROWN ..most buses are built in English. ..some in Scotland and some in Ireland!
DIONNE FRANCIS-BROWN all Wright buses are built in northern Ireland
The longer version is called a renown
i saw you on the 40
Yes I've always been on that route.
I miss the cadets
Is it a volvo?
And these are getting replaced by SEe buses which are way too quiet.
Health and safety gone mad at times 🤣🤣
Has the company have Mercedes Benz citaros
Byd the full electric can do about 190 miles
What route was this bus on
Route 360 from Elephant & Castle to Royal Albert Hall/South Kensington.
That dash looks like it has been replaced with a Gemini 2 DB300 Dash screen
Well the bus body and chassis are made by the same companies as the DB300 so they would be similar.
These aren't the 1st hybrids, the st hybrids were the east lancs myleniumm which were gas powered I think..... Which were brought following the myleniumm dome opening
Those are gas buses though, not diesel electric.
ok although I would've thought that they'd still count as a hybrid.....
No because they are just a combustion engine that runs on a different fuel still driving through a convential gearbox, and no electric motor. Hybrid gas bus though, I wonder if any actually exist :-P