Joe Rogan - What's the Difference Between a Cult and a Religion?

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  • čas přidán 18. 12. 2017
  • Joe Rogan and Bret Weinstein discuss the differences between a cult and a religion.
    Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1055.

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  • @Milkra
    @Milkra Před 4 lety +10925

    Moses being on DMT just might be the most Joe Rogan topic ever

    • @noname-tf7kq
      @noname-tf7kq Před 4 lety +131

      He keeps mentioning that but according to biologists, the acacia tree didn't even grow in that region. He should have Reza aslan on the podcast imo

    • @Quickturealeyes
      @Quickturealeyes Před 4 lety +126

      Mr. Matt it’s actually native to Negev and Sinai, which is the general region where Moses is thought to have encountered the burning bush. So...

    • @noname-tf7kq
      @noname-tf7kq Před 4 lety +21

      @@Quickturealeyes From what I've seen most scholars believe it is the Rubus sanctus plant indeed, but not the variant that "burns" which is the vapour, called "Dictamnus albus". Robus sanctus is also found at the base of Sinai at the Basilica. I am really interested in the biological or botanus references you can point to though...

    • @cayetano6547
      @cayetano6547 Před 4 lety +33

      @@noname-tf7kq those "scientists" and experts will find a way around that inconvenient fact...maybe they'll find the answer in their next DMT trip

    • @YourNorthstarr
      @YourNorthstarr Před 4 lety +5

      LMAO IKR

  • @YngolSonofYsgramor
    @YngolSonofYsgramor Před 5 lety +10658

    Less than 2 minutes in and immediately moses was on DMT. This is the best podcast ever

    • @nunyabizzz1135
      @nunyabizzz1135 Před 5 lety +282

      Wtf..joe is obsessed with dmt..

    • @matthewcarl82
      @matthewcarl82 Před 5 lety +129

      Fuk I wanna try dmt‼

    • @deinemuddamithut
      @deinemuddamithut Před 5 lety +19

      @@matthewcarl82 then do it
      xD

    • @matthewcarl82
      @matthewcarl82 Před 5 lety +58

      @@deinemuddamithut I dont know where to get that shit from😒 Only if Rogan hooked me up🤣

    • @harrisonwalker105
      @harrisonwalker105 Před 5 lety +18

      mc8 it’ll definitely change your life my friend

  • @CarlosAlvarezli
    @CarlosAlvarezli Před rokem +57

    "anybody with power is gonna be in danger of abusing it...."
    Now that is the best phrase I will take to heart forever

    • @user-zx4ds8mt9b
      @user-zx4ds8mt9b Před 5 měsíci +1

      Dont worry about it too much, you'll never get it

    • @alikzandergreata2115
      @alikzandergreata2115 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@user-zx4ds8mt9b hahahahahahaha

    • @alikzandergreata2115
      @alikzandergreata2115 Před 3 měsíci +1

      A rough quote ish in the constitution reads like if men were governed by angles we would have no need of these regulations but as we are governed by men so-
      Bad quote. Good idea.

    • @CarlosAlvarezli
      @CarlosAlvarezli Před 3 měsíci

      @alikzandergreata2115 it's not just the angels as messengers but the central figure and it's avatar constructing divine influence but those in charge of the rules are prone to abuse of power through corruption of negative influences of repressed thoughts

  • @Projektshin
    @Projektshin Před rokem +252

    i have mad respect for how they can have an ACTUAL DISCUSSION on completely contrasting viewpoints... if only this type of mutual respect was more commonplace between two parties... you can't even disagree with someone nowadays without going into extreme territories

  • @bradlackey64
    @bradlackey64 Před 4 lety +1211

    "When your cult gets called a religion... You've made it"

  • @robbietillman
    @robbietillman Před 4 lety +2490

    Bret: “So you’ve done some hallucinogens”
    Joe: “Oh yeah”

  • @2ndmoon
    @2ndmoon Před rokem +60

    It's when you watch these older videos that you realize how much joe has improved in letting others talk and just listen

  • @wizeeyz
    @wizeeyz Před 5 měsíci +22

    The more I listen to Brett the more I realize that Eric is the smart one in the family. Joe's 100% right about this. Brent didn't even consider the cognitive dissonance that comes into play when a society gets brainwashed for generations.

    • @johnnytucker6709
      @johnnytucker6709 Před 4 měsíci

      The notion that society as a whole has been brainwashed because of a belief system that they adhere to, because that belief system has stood the test of time due to its utility, is a rather myopic opinion. To right off all of religion to "brainwashing" seems to me, is far more of a stretch to believe, rather than believing or understanding that religions, regardless of whether or not they were truly "divine", had profound utility.
      And if you have to resort to an ad hominem attack (basically calling Brett Weinstein, of all people, dumb) in an attempt to discredit them (and ipso facto their opinion(s)), then you must not be very confident in your opposition. Which begs the question... Why not? Talk about cognitive dissonance...

    • @delicious_seabass
      @delicious_seabass Před 4 měsíci +1

      Of course its only brainwashing when its ideas you don't approve of, right? You don't think atheists exhibit cognitive dissonance? They're all just perfectly rational people? Don't assume that you have all the answers and if everyone just followed your morals, ethics and ideas, the world would be a perfect place. Most people, even atheists, appear to be predisposed to some sort of spirituality, and if that's the case, then they will fill that void with something.

    • @user-bc2in7oe3l
      @user-bc2in7oe3l Před měsícem +2

      😂😂 y'all feel pretty smart when you use words like fallacy and dissonance

    • @noahlenten8360
      @noahlenten8360 Před měsícem +2

      joe is absolutely and clearly in the wrong here. "i think all ideology's are cults" is a hilariously ignorant we're all, always, all the time, subject to ideology. there are fundamental and absurd assumptions underlying all of our thought processess and actions. im not a theoretical physicist or scientist, but i do understand that our entire basis of science and knowledge is based on fundamental assumptions (i think its stuff like we assume passage of time or motion idk). at the end of the road we're all subject to ideology wether its heavens gate, catholicism, mormonism, capitalism, communism. he's stuck in semantics there is a purpose to differentiating religions and cults im an atheist too i think a great deal of catholic practices are much more reflective of a cult than a religion, but regardless its a significant and important distinction.

  • @jonamwoza3665
    @jonamwoza3665 Před 4 lety +1787

    It's entirely possible a buddy of mine did DMT while eating elk meat. Pull that up Jamie.

    • @Jamesuni
      @Jamesuni Před 4 lety +16

      HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAAAAAAAAA

    • @jeremygilmore3208
      @jeremygilmore3208 Před 4 lety +14

      100%

    • @windmillwilly
      @windmillwilly Před 4 lety +37

      It's entirely possible that a buddy of mine saw a ripped chimp on DMT eating elk meat, can you pull that up Jamie

    • @crowtservo
      @crowtservo Před 3 lety +13

      A buddy of mine ate elk meat from an elk who was using DMT.

    • @lordofthered1257
      @lordofthered1257 Před 3 lety +5

      For real though f dmt elk meat slaps

  • @elsworth8078
    @elsworth8078 Před 3 lety +2024

    This is a perfect example of 2 adults, having a discussion on something they have different views on, but are able to discuss them, be open minded, and actually listen to each other.

    • @alop9535
      @alop9535 Před 3 lety +56

      like ass or tits

    • @ShawnLincoln360
      @ShawnLincoln360 Před 3 lety +34

      It's pretty rare to see this in this "Cancel Culture" era.

    • @rockymntnliberty
      @rockymntnliberty Před 3 lety +21

      It's kind of interesting, I have noticed I can have a very strong disagreement with another Republican / conservative / libertarian and we can very civilly articulate our arguments back and forth. On the other hand, trying to have a similar argument / discussion with a leftist is usually impossible. They will usually not argue facts and specific cases, but will argue only generalities and emotions. When they do use facts or figures it's very Cherry picked and misleading. A good example of this was yesterday a discussion on equal pay for women. The leftist kept arguing the statistics that annual salaries for women are less than men, but would totally ignore how this statistic does a not reflect the amount of hours of worked or the type of work being done. So the statistic they want to use compares annual pay for a part-time McDonald's worker with a 60 hour a week oilfield worker.

    • @chadphelps5809
      @chadphelps5809 Před 2 lety +25

      Really? Bc joe interrupted Brett 5 or so times In the first minute

    • @impetrichor2695
      @impetrichor2695 Před 2 lety +18

      I don't think Joe listened to a word Bret said

  • @dTNT24
    @dTNT24 Před rokem +122

    I'm with Rogan on this: When a Cult gets really big we call it a Religion, but they're pretty much the same.

    • @scaryjoker
      @scaryjoker Před 10 měsíci +5

      Cults have secrets that only select people can access.

    • @romanpolanski3289
      @romanpolanski3289 Před 10 měsíci +21

      ​@@scaryjokerlike pope knows only things we normal humans know :'D

    • @deflategate1297
      @deflategate1297 Před 10 měsíci +3

      A regular religion u can leave and come back at your choice a cult u can’t u stuck there by force

    • @theamazinggarbage3209
      @theamazinggarbage3209 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Scientology sitting quietly in the corner:

    • @TJR-ju8dj
      @TJR-ju8dj Před 9 měsíci +7

      @@deflategate1297 no, Islam kills their non believers.

  • @homicidalgeorge
    @homicidalgeorge Před rokem +17

    i think they’re the same thing. by definition a religion is a cult but just because it’s a cult doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. there’s a stigma to that word that if you call something a cult it automatically means people gathering around in black robes and sacrificing babies to the dark lord. a cult just means a group of people who worship something/someone it doesn’t always have to be malicious.

  • @beatleplayer1011
    @beatleplayer1011 Před 4 lety +1520

    Man I thought the Rogan DMT memes were getting old and my man comes out with “Moses was on DMT and created Judaism”

    • @Quickturealeyes
      @Quickturealeyes Před 4 lety +100

      beatleplayer1011 I mean it makes more sense than hearing “the voice of God” out of thin air

    • @kaya727
      @kaya727 Před 4 lety +20

      He's been saying that for almost a decade lol

    • @MnemonicHeadTrip
      @MnemonicHeadTrip Před 4 lety +11

      It’s definitely likely

    • @oldnelson4298
      @oldnelson4298 Před 4 lety +17

      @@MnemonicHeadTrip It's more plausible than a bush was on fire for no reason and also it was God talking to him.

    • @MnemonicHeadTrip
      @MnemonicHeadTrip Před 4 lety +2

      Acacia trees/bushes are common in that part of the world, it’s just as likely imo

  • @YTW-rw6pr
    @YTW-rw6pr Před 2 lety +1139

    When he called the pope some dude who dresses like a wizard I lost it 🤣🤣🤣

  • @juliagoodfellow7539
    @juliagoodfellow7539 Před rokem +29

    Ahhh Joe, born and raised Mormon, and I'm right there with you about all religions being cults. I looked up cult and it's a group of people with similar belief or behavior. Like the " Red Hat Ladies or the girl scouts". Mostly harmless, as Douglas Addams liked to say. I would like the reference for -Mormons get a planet- 70 years around the Mormon church and I've never heard that one anywhere except GoogleGossip. Along with a lot of equally funny ideas that other lifelong Mormons never heard of either. I love your podcast. Live long and keep the conversations growing.

    • @joshua.snyder
      @joshua.snyder Před 9 měsíci +5

      Yep, grew up active LdS...we're a cult.

    • @jimbob9086
      @jimbob9086 Před 9 měsíci

      @@joshua.snyder I grew up lds as well. Yes it’s a cult, but I think it wears that label to an unfair degree compared to all the other crazy Christian sects.

    • @Horsethief666
      @Horsethief666 Před 8 měsíci

      I think the planet is more assumed because you can become like God. I'm sure a general authority or apostle mentioned it some time in history but that doesn't make it doctrine necessarily, although most members would see it that way. But it is annoying how he always says that. Mormons probably technically believe it but he makes it sound like they're preaching it every Sunday or something.

    • @Kate82261
      @Kate82261 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Horsethief666do you know that this person wasn’t preached that on a near constant basis? Genuine question. Not sure how sects of LDS work. (Also why did we have LDS commercials constantly as kids? I was born in the 1980s) anyone? Bueler?

    • @swampghost72
      @swampghost72 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ok tell me where is the line drawn between a cult and an organization..where please tell me..I respect joes mind hes highly intelligent but hes off on this one...David coresh of the branch davidians in Waco was a cult , marshal aplewhite of heavens gate that was a cult .. Catholicism , and the girl scouts are not cults..faith and religion is a touchy subject for joe so I expect his statements on this .

  • @madvillain7
    @madvillain7 Před 2 měsíci +2

    When Bret said he didn't know if Scientology was a cult, I almost bailed on the entire clip🤡

  • @samg1884
    @samg1884 Před 4 lety +1960

    Joe’s kid’s first words: D-d-d-DMT is produced in the pineal gland

    • @jammbbs1688
      @jammbbs1688 Před 3 lety +36

      The fact that our children and even us where fed their whole lives fluoride ( which is a by product of making aluminum) that turns our pineal gland in our brain into scar tissue says something cuz it's also believed that our imagination and such stems from the pineal glad but we are fed shit all the time to kill it...

    • @studiorose11
      @studiorose11 Před 3 lety +10

      Jacob Stech this is wild

    • @hoyesnimtalas734
      @hoyesnimtalas734 Před 3 lety +2

      Jacob Stech whoaaa. that’s crazy and scary. 😳why can’t i read the rest of your comment though? :(

    • @jammbbs1688
      @jammbbs1688 Před 3 lety +9

      To kill it..... Is the rest of my comment lol

    • @hoyesnimtalas734
      @hoyesnimtalas734 Před 3 lety +1

      Epic I’m not, my phone wasn’t showing me the rest of the comment. Stop being rude.

  • @philipm4799
    @philipm4799 Před 5 lety +720

    listening to people not consistently interrupting each other is so refreshing

    • @scottycranwell283
      @scottycranwell283 Před 4 lety +2

      T.H.A.N.K. Y.O.U. !!!!

    • @harborwolf22
      @harborwolf22 Před 4 lety +9

      This guy is amazing.
      Joe was a tiny bit overwhelming right at first, but it was such a good interview.

    • @Troupe426
      @Troupe426 Před 4 lety +4

      @@harborwolf22 my thoughts exactly, joe had me cringing at first...he was super defensive right off the bat. great topic and interview.

    • @s0bad
      @s0bad Před 4 lety +19

      Are you serious? Joe was constantly throwing the guy off track at every point he was trying to make

    • @russbilderback
      @russbilderback Před 4 lety

      @@s0bad he does that constantly.

  • @oldbk4281
    @oldbk4281 Před 11 měsíci +14

    as many others have noted, it is hard not to appreciate Rogan’s thoughtfulness and patience.

    • @mjramirez6008
      @mjramirez6008 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Weinstein was faaaaaar more patient than Joe

  • @tobysewell681
    @tobysewell681 Před rokem +3

    The opening bit for Joe here absolutely killed me 😂😂😂

  • @RayBetterThanEvilCanival
    @RayBetterThanEvilCanival Před 4 lety +740

    Is Religion a cult?
    Joe: “Yes, and let me tell you about DMT”

    • @domja9389
      @domja9389 Před 3 lety +1

      He talks love everyone but I ain't seen a dime of that 100 mil..

  • @bburkie55
    @bburkie55 Před 3 lety +1295

    “The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own”- Frank Zappa

  • @backyardbandit8193
    @backyardbandit8193 Před 11 měsíci +11

    When I had DMT, i definitely wasn't in a familiar place or a place I'd been in any dreams prior to the experience and haven't seen anything close since having DMT.
    It was probably the most astonishing or surprising thing I've ever experienced. I didn't know our brains had the capacity to create such experiences. I'm still debatable whether i created the illusions and conversations with these entities or whether some other force implanted them in my brain. There was definitely some type of element of leaving my physical body vulnerable, as i broke on to the other side, which would seem the only way of infiltrating my thought process.
    I've done skydiving, Bungy jumping, scuba diving etc and this experience is right up there with the best of them. We fear what we don't know or understand...i was scared shitless, as i was in a place i didn't know or understand, despite preparing myself to be entering another realm and potentially visiting little people and having conversations with them, nothing can prepare you for this experience, because when it happens...i was like "no f@#ing way, i simply can't believe it"
    I don't recommend asking what's this week's tatts lotto are going to be, didn't end well with me😢

    • @Kate82261
      @Kate82261 Před 6 měsíci

      Can you clarify what you mean in the last sentence? What didn’t end well? I love reading about ppls experience with DMT. Fascinating that we naturally produce this chemical, dubbed the “God molecule”-I mean? That’s no accident. I know the stories are so vulnerable, terrifying, but expansive: “arrive without traveling” ❤

    • @backyardbandit8193
      @backyardbandit8193 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Kate82261
      I felt like they we're saying "here we are showing you the wonders of the universe, and your asking for lottery numbers?"
      But I persisted, and then I received a big scare from something that hissed like a cat with huge fangs, as fast as it scared me, it disappeared, like a warning, and a quick lesson in the laws of random probability.

    • @backyardbandit8193
      @backyardbandit8193 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Kate82261
      I was told prior to trying it that I might see little elves, so my brains like "okay cool, noted"
      So whilst in this realm with what reminded me of the little Oompa Loompa's from Charlie and the chocolate factory, all wearing little white gloves and acting childish, I'm wondering where are these coming from? Me? Or something else?

    • @backyardbandit8193
      @backyardbandit8193 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Kate82261
      The weirdest thing I felt was their jealousy, they were extremely jealous, and I think they were jealous of my curiosity, the fact that I didn't understand the whole universe.
      I felt they couldn't feel "curious" like us. Almost as if they knew everything and nothing was surprising or new.

    • @backyardbandit8193
      @backyardbandit8193 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Kate82261
      When the "trip/experience" was coming to an end, they waved hysterically saying "come back soon, don't forget about us, make sure you come and visit us again" all in a childish manner.
      So I thought it was weird that they knew it was coming to an end my trip somewhere.

  • @elianijah
    @elianijah Před 5 měsíci +2

    He says religions that have stood the test of time must have had a significant meaning to people to do so...I imagine fear of being burnt or imprisoned for life for believing in anything else might have had something to do with it's staying power as well.

  • @danielortega4957
    @danielortega4957 Před 4 lety +508

    He understands how to disagree and not be emotional about it

    • @aj200415
      @aj200415 Před 3 lety +24

      Yeah....unless he actually cares about it and it has something to do with him....then he’s VERY emotional and won’t listen and argues to death....just listen to the Steven Crowder podcast when Joe brought up weed....he wouldn’t listen to any point Steven had and resorted to raising his voice to the point of yelling over him and not listening, and started calling him a bitch and a pussy.

    • @danielortega4957
      @danielortega4957 Před 3 lety +8

      @@aj200415 ok

    • @aj200415
      @aj200415 Před 3 lety +19

      Daniel Ortega I’m just saying. I absolutely freaking love Joe and his podcasts, I listen to at LEAST one of his podcasts or a clip once a day, but this is the truth. When it comes to his weed, there are many many podcasts where as soon as his weed is brought up most if not all of his ability to listen or have a discussion goes out the window. He just seems to lock down and plug his ears and goes on his same spiel he does in every single podcast when it’s brought up. I’m just saying this is his one weakness in his podcasts. But I still love Joe and love his podcasts and discussions.

    • @danielortega4957
      @danielortega4957 Před 3 lety +17

      @@aj200415 ok

    • @umamagei
      @umamagei Před 3 lety +9

      @@aj200415 yeah that's an unfortunate consequence, i wouldn't assume but it's very similar to the way an addict will defend their behaviour to the bitter end, i'm big into weed and i believe its a very positive drug, less dangerous than smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, but it definitely has an addictive effect just like any behaviour, you can go through heavy withdrawal's which are not fun, so i think he feels attacked when people criticise weed because it's basically his "medication", it's also reflective of his passion for the topic, just like if i said your favourite movie or band sucks ass, you'd most likely jump straight to defending it with emotion because it has that emotional connection in your brain, obviously no one knows but Joe himself but he could do better to try and remain calm and centred.
      Edit: Joe is also high as fuck in the Crowder interview so that would definitely affect his inhibitions.

  • @ebf336
    @ebf336 Před 3 lety +438

    Joe "I can connect literally anything to DMT" Rogan

    • @amyrogers7047
      @amyrogers7047 Před 3 lety +1

      You are not kidding..😂

    • @tonyg490
      @tonyg490 Před 3 lety +6

      He does but I'm assuming most people that make these jokes have never tried it.

    • @amyrogers7047
      @amyrogers7047 Před 3 lety

      @@tonyg490 why do you assume that? 🤷

    • @amyrogers7047
      @amyrogers7047 Před 3 lety

      I get that there is a veiled reference that many people probably don't even get, when you're using the word connection in reference to DMT..

    • @SaltyCado
      @SaltyCado Před 3 lety +1

      @@amyrogers7047 I definitely can, but that just shows how many things can actually come back to it. That's why it's so natural

  • @emilyfurey4483
    @emilyfurey4483 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I have narcolepsy which I didn't develop which is most common but have had it my whole life. As a narcoleptic we fall straight into REM and may be in REM sleep for (unmedicated which I was until 24) anything between 16-20 odd hours a day. I find it so interesting what you are saying about the production of DMT in REM 🤯 With this new info in mind, it could explain the hypnogogic hallucinations that occurs daily ( unmedicated ) along with other strange sleep phenomenon which accompanies the condition.

  • @gerharddiedericks2120
    @gerharddiedericks2120 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Really interesting chat :) Remember that Moses, if he is in fact a historic figure - would have spent several years as "the Pharoah's son". Geting educated by the best of the best Egyption priests ( and a variety of artists / artisans etc). Not too far fetched to believe that he knew which bushes / barks / roots / cacti to chew for "inspiration".

  • @MikefromQueens
    @MikefromQueens Před 6 lety +3918

    Cult is a small group of lunatics. Religion is a large group of lunatics.

  • @murlyn2
    @murlyn2 Před rokem +638

    What I find most amazing about Joe Rogan is his constant interest and respect of the guest’s opinions even when he obviously does not agree at all. He stays calm and wants to hear more of an opposing opinion. His skills are probably under appreciated by most of the public.

    • @deborahdicembre9579
      @deborahdicembre9579 Před rokem +14

      Agree. The anti-oprah

    • @GWAForUTBE
      @GWAForUTBE Před rokem +9

      Openmindedness is the key to learning.

    • @ResidentRaccoon
      @ResidentRaccoon Před rokem +4

      Respect? Is that what you call his opening statements on Catholicism? Wtf interview were you listening to

    • @murlyn2
      @murlyn2 Před rokem +16

      @@ResidentRaccoon the good one where the interviewer is better than most in the world and not worried about some people’s sensitivities about a broken religion that to many sheep follow and support blindly.

    • @juwonroberts8622
      @juwonroberts8622 Před rokem

      @@ResidentRaccoon no fr I love joe but sometimes he doesn’t even let someone talk

  • @anthonyj.rapoza6921
    @anthonyj.rapoza6921 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Joe can just keep it going. Love it

  • @gitarreboy05
    @gitarreboy05 Před 7 měsíci +4

    The only problem i have with any organized way of thinking is because it so easily slips into the realm of "I'm right, you're wrong and thats that." Society as whole would better if we were more willing to learn from those with opposing views

  • @yarbgreat1
    @yarbgreat1 Před 4 lety +384

    Brett's internal dialogue "can I get back to my point please".

    • @princevegeta7487
      @princevegeta7487 Před 4 lety +7

      Hahahahaha

    • @steampunk_cat5592
      @steampunk_cat5592 Před 4 lety +15

      he didnt have a point, he said cults are supernatural beliefs used to exploit people, yet doesnt acknowledge either scientology or catholicism are cults, yet they both are unproven supernatural beliefs, and are used to exploit people for resources

    • @mitchellmahurin3465
      @mitchellmahurin3465 Před 4 lety +4

      @@steampunk_cat5592 he did have a point though, he said that those institutions havent negativity impacted their massive amounts of followers so the word "cult" isnt a correct term.
      I understand where you're coming from but I agree that cult isnt the right terminology.

    • @NELLYB
      @NELLYB Před 4 lety +3

      Mitchell Mahurin that depends on what your goals are. Ofcourse if your book says what your doing is good, you’ll think your doing good. This is where joes question comes up again. “Is it for the good of the people who are apart of the plan or is it for the plan itself.” And no matter how much Christianity touts its humanity card so much, ultimately your nothing if you don’t put god above all else. As soon as you introduce god and the need to adore him you immediately become a cult. You can disagree, but why would you want to willingly be incorrect?

    • @saxondespens7271
      @saxondespens7271 Před rokem

      ​@@NELLYB the church donates millions and runs schools and hospitals

  • @davidduanes9574
    @davidduanes9574 Před 2 lety +1293

    I love how Joe is well informed about everything that produces DMT 😂

    • @gayfrogs4206
      @gayfrogs4206 Před 2 lety +56

      I swear Joe rogan knows everything about Dmt and chimps

    • @h3ck774
      @h3ck774 Před 2 lety +5

      I mean yea he will say a lot of things that dont make sense about drugs a lot tho like for example acacia bark doesnt have near enough DMT you would have to do an extraction with lye and shit

    • @jerrypapadatos1210
      @jerrypapadatos1210 Před 2 lety +3

      @@h3ck774 I love Joe but I thought that take was nuts

    • @h3ck774
      @h3ck774 Před 2 lety

      @@jerrypapadatos1210 yea its a spread rumor now Joe knows the basics about drugs but theres so much hes so misinformed about even with weed especially with mdma and novel psychs

    • @scatdawg1
      @scatdawg1 Před 2 lety +1

      Go watch DMT the spirt molecule. He was heavily involved in the film of the book.

  • @mattk3654
    @mattk3654 Před 10 měsíci +2

    See, this is why I like Joe. He can disagree with me and give good evidence on why he could be right and do it without insulting me.
    And, at the same time, if I were to drop evidence on him to help prove my side of the debate, he takes it in without assuming I'm insulting him.
    And considers my debating points and applies them going forward.
    It's that last part that really sets him apart. He actually considers the debating points of the people that disagree with him and sometimes forms a new opinion based on things he's learned. And this causes me to respect his opinion whether I agree or not.
    For that, I applaud you, Mr Joe Rogan. Keep doing what you do

  • @user-uu5sr7mo1o
    @user-uu5sr7mo1o Před rokem +4

    Never watched this before, just got a lot more respect for Joe. Was never part of his cult before 😅

  • @cowspoopmagic
    @cowspoopmagic Před 4 lety +1543

    "Well if you wanna call catholicism a cult-" "it's a cult"

    • @cowspoopmagic
      @cowspoopmagic Před 4 lety +28

      @Zayne simard moore i FOR SURE know its a cult i feel sorry fpr those trapped into worshipping satin

    • @jackburton3212
      @jackburton3212 Před 4 lety +61

      Catholicism is a perversion of Christianity. It was a way for the government at the time to gain control of people.
      A true Christian can see the fallacies of the catholic religion. God/the bible has clear messages that never change. Under the catholic religion, it's whatever suits the powers that be. That's why people get divisive about the pope because some argue that he should stick to what the bible says, and others are ok with him changing the rules to appease the masses.
      Under Christianity, the rules are the rules, set by God/Jesus, and there's no deviating from them. Under Catholicism, the pope can change them in order to keep people going to church (for revenue).
      I've talked to priests whom purposely withhold information from their followers because they're afraid they'll stop going to church. Effectively giving them feel good-misinformation for the sake of continuing to get offerings from them. When for Christians, the truth is far more important than money/fame/status or even control.
      Christianity is about self control and having fellowship with Christ/God for our salvation, where as Catholicism is about following the church with pseudo-Christian messages.
      I used to be catholic until I read the bible and realized how far off Catholicism went from the original messages. Which is one of redemption and salvation rather than condemnation.

    • @cowspoopmagic
      @cowspoopmagic Před 4 lety +10

      @@jackburton3212 your so correct altough i think its more nefarious than that. I believe the popes to be agent of evil and their cults to be synagogues of Satan.
      One thing well agree on is their definetley NOT Christian. Christians believe in indiviuals connection the Christ. Catholics believe that the pope connects them and without his approval they cannot be saved. A literal quote from 2013 "you cannot have an individual connection to jesus christ, only i can forgive your sins" pope benedict xvi and he goes on to say more satanic and anti christian things.

    • @dandini0698
      @dandini0698 Před 4 lety +13

      according to his line of thinking, there is no religion, that They are all cults. I think biggest difference is that in Cults, they try to control your life, make you behave with negative reinforcement, try to manipulate you into buying into their bs. With religion it is usually texts that has stories that has parallels with life and they just resonate with your own experiences and the priests of those religions want to share you their story so you'd know more than you did yesterday, so you can articulate what you've been experiencing and make those choises consciously, but otherwise leave everything up to you. There is no hell, no punishment, nothing except things we all universally agree to obey. This ofc does not change the fact that human aspect of all belief systems is as stable as the humans that are in it. It does not mean religion itself is not real, or bs, its just their human representitives have failed them.

    • @jackburton3212
      @jackburton3212 Před 4 lety +9

      @cablecow15 there are those who are blind because they cannot see, and then there are those who are blind because they don't want to see. I'll pray for you as I was lost once too. 🙂

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 Před 4 lety +779

    Literally anyone: *exists*
    Joe: *he probably was on dmt*

    • @archesworn377
      @archesworn377 Před 4 lety +6

      Watching this- because I'm tripping. And I can confirm that I'm experiencing something my conscience calls God and that moses may have as well as an explanation of him truthfully thinking the 10 commandments were from God.

    • @aguspuig6615
      @aguspuig6615 Před 4 lety +7

      @@archesworn377 so moses whas high af

    • @archesworn377
      @archesworn377 Před 4 lety +2

      @@aguspuig6615 That or lying about the source of his rules to make them more authoritative.
      Could have been either, but there were traditions with psychedelics and them showing you God back then.
      Either way, from the success of the religion, I'd say those rules created a fair bit of social stability, so the lying option could be viewed as a white lie.

    • @aguspuig6615
      @aguspuig6615 Před 4 lety

      @@archesworn377 okay that proves it he was high af

    • @archesworn377
      @archesworn377 Před 4 lety

      @@aguspuig6615 It proves a strong possibility. Can't know for sure.

  • @stilldreamyn
    @stilldreamyn Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'm curious as to what is said at the start of the podcast 2 seconds in the video, sounds like it's played backwards

  • @bluejayonmyshoulder7383
    @bluejayonmyshoulder7383 Před rokem +2

    When I did DMT I saw Ganesha staring at me behind palm leaves. I never even thought about Ganesha like that before this experience and it was crazy how this Energy manifested itself in my trip

  • @psychicerinsears
    @psychicerinsears Před 3 lety +1003

    He said sitting on a gold throne dressed like a wizard lmaooo

    • @PrinceIsot
      @PrinceIsot Před 3 lety +2

      My goodness you better be sitting on a gold throne you queen 😙

    • @randybobandy5538
      @randybobandy5538 Před 3 lety +2

      You're hot asf.

    • @Stefantius
      @Stefantius Před 3 lety +55

      @@randybobandy5538 Shes insanely average, calm down

    • @randybobandy5538
      @randybobandy5538 Před 3 lety +17

      @@Stefantius people have different tastes. Calm down.

    • @meyakabrown795
      @meyakabrown795 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Stefantius Ya she is tho. These people. 🙄

  • @Mister008Gaming
    @Mister008Gaming Před 3 lety +138

    “The difference between a religion and a cult is what happens when you try and leave.” -Mike Rinder

    • @ActionJackson669
      @ActionJackson669 Před 2 lety +6

      And he was in a real cult for real. Scientology is a cult and needs it's tax free status revoked 💯

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 Před 2 lety +2

      So, for instance, a religion that mandates the death penalty for apostates is actually a cult?

    • @krtlkid
      @krtlkid Před 2 lety +8

      using fear to control people is how most religion operates.Thats why some love their Gods out of fear of being damned.Sometimes I question my beliefs especially when someone goes against

    • @antoine.-
      @antoine.- Před 2 lety +7

      A religion is a cult who succeded

    • @releaseshrek5945
      @releaseshrek5945 Před 2 lety +5

      Jehovah’s Witness is a massive cult

  • @mojojeinxs9960
    @mojojeinxs9960 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Grew up as a suffering Catholic. Did nine long years in Catholic school boot camp.

  • @eduardobarbosa9413
    @eduardobarbosa9413 Před rokem +1

    Great conversation. Who's the guest?

  • @felixkuhlin3126
    @felixkuhlin3126 Před 6 lety +3431

    Joe "Moses was on DMT" Rogan

    • @martinaee
      @martinaee Před 6 lety +206

      I mean, that makes way more sense to me than any other explanation lol.

    • @jordans123ful
      @jordans123ful Před 6 lety +26

      He will say anything these days.

    • @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
      @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist Před 6 lety +30

      +Felix Kuhlin He was, either that or he didn't exist. Take your pick.

    • @Gyork_
      @Gyork_ Před 6 lety +20

      Not really, he's basically creating a myth over another myth, the bush just told moses to free Slaves on Egypt, not the 10 commandments...

    • @Freeonyx
      @Freeonyx Před 6 lety +45

      But why is that less believable than what religion says happened? Lmao

  • @jennifershowalter7567
    @jennifershowalter7567 Před 5 lety +1379

    Joe “I received the same messages as Moses when I did DMT” Rogan

    • @classicrocklover5615
      @classicrocklover5615 Před 5 lety +39

      I think had Moses had a DMT experience on the mountain, then came down to find people worshipping a golden calf, he would not have reacted in anger. It would have just seemed to be a continuation of the DMT experience.

    • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
      @jeffreyyoungblood7438 Před 5 lety +38

      @@classicrocklover5615 Joe's explanation of Moses experience was the worst I've ever heard. I'd have to be really high to find it insightful or believable.

    • @biesman5
      @biesman5 Před 5 lety +1

      Lmao

    • @royalcooper2489
      @royalcooper2489 Před 5 lety

      Lmao

    • @soulof6742
      @soulof6742 Před 5 lety +2

      Joe " The Zohar" Rogan

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 Před rokem +5

    “Air quotes God” is by far my favourite God

  • @TROLLINGB4U
    @TROLLINGB4U Před rokem +1

    My favorite joe rogan convo.

  • @michaelstarr9812
    @michaelstarr9812 Před 4 lety +1502

    the difference between a Cult and a Religion is what happens when you want to LEAVE.

    • @Fredrikbb
      @Fredrikbb Před 4 lety +198

      so Islam is a cult then?

    • @temporarymomentary
      @temporarymomentary Před 4 lety +180

      @@Fredrikbb It is and is a violent cult. One of the most brutal. I still don't understand why it is even legal.

    • @tothboy01
      @tothboy01 Před 4 lety +178

      And Christians believe that people who leave their religion will burn in hell. That may not be as harsh as killing someone like they do in Islam, but it is still a problem and makes Christianity look like a cult.

    • @Jedi_Are_Scum
      @Jedi_Are_Scum Před 4 lety +38

      @@temporarymomentary I agree. But it is a free country. Also, the creator is dead. You have the right to beliefs. Just don't chop off heads. lol. It is legal to believe whatever you want. Just don't hurt people.

    • @ethanfrye31
      @ethanfrye31 Před 4 lety +34

      Cults use force, coercion, blackmail, etc. Religions allow you an exit ramp at any time.

  • @TheBaffoonShow
    @TheBaffoonShow Před 4 lety +1945

    Joe Rogan: I'm not that big into conspiracies.
    Also Joe rogan: Moses was on DMT

    • @burtonl7239
      @burtonl7239 Před 4 lety +32

      So he was small into conspiracies.

    • @popalien9152
      @popalien9152 Před 4 lety +87

      Not really a conspiracy theory as much as it is conjecture

    • @BrushEm
      @BrushEm Před 4 lety +91

      Not a conspiracy just a theory

    • @dawn-blade
      @dawn-blade Před 4 lety +47

      @@BrushEm A game theory

    • @YuThinkUrCool
      @YuThinkUrCool Před 4 lety +3

      Firstly, a conspiracy is a crime. A real crime you can be charged with. To call something a conspiracy is to call it real. The crime of conspiracy is when 2 or more people secretly plan/plot an illegal/harmful act. Moses was one person, therefore could not have been a conspiracy so it's just a theory/speculation/conjecture.

  • @KingGeorgieIII
    @KingGeorgieIII Před 2 měsíci

    I’ve learned more from Joe Rogans podcast then I did in 18 years of being in the public school system and one semester of community college
    God bless you Joe Keep preaching the truth

  • @kevinschmidt1261
    @kevinschmidt1261 Před 4 lety +147

    Man, I wasn't ready for Moses to be on DMT, but Joe got there way quick

  • @Modern.Elegance
    @Modern.Elegance Před 5 lety +1435

    “Chathlocism is not a cult”
    Joe: That’s crazy man have you ever tried DMT?

    • @aaroncook8120
      @aaroncook8120 Před 5 lety +2

      Haha 😂

    • @ShaunHensley
      @ShaunHensley Před 5 lety +28

      I thought you were making a joke... nope, that happened

    • @finalapostate7319
      @finalapostate7319 Před 5 lety +3

      itl be dead in 100 years laugh that up

    • @YoWhoDat
      @YoWhoDat Před 5 lety +1

      @Boricua 787 its Catholicism. If you believe in the teachings then you are a Catholic. You took an L with your comment but who cares, we learn something new everyday.

    • @YoWhoDat
      @YoWhoDat Před 5 lety +1

      You dont ask someone if they're a "Christianity". You ask if they're a Christian. Same with Catholicism. You ask if they're Catholic.

  • @Daysed.and.Konfuzed
    @Daysed.and.Konfuzed Před 5 měsíci +3

    When defending what they like, people love to resource to fallacies like "oh, if it wasn't great it wouldn't have existed for so long" or "the dictionary definition of that word doesn't apply to what I like, because...reasons."
    Congrats to Joe for not rolling his eyes, because the urge must've been unbearable.

    • @victorpubejuice
      @victorpubejuice Před 5 měsíci

      Joe was acting the same way boy, constantly interrupting to add jabs

  • @lizbethcortez3349
    @lizbethcortez3349 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I love how the guy said church doesn't use confession as a weapon to control people, then proceeds to give an example of the church controlling its people with fear through confession 😂

  • @mad-official
    @mad-official Před 2 lety +813

    Imagine if George Carlin was still alive & went on JRE.

    • @unre_sqrwisdom
      @unre_sqrwisdom Před 2 lety +13

      Classic

    • @unre_sqrwisdom
      @unre_sqrwisdom Před 2 lety +50

      And halfway through Eddie Bravo & Alex Jones show up.

    • @DaveSwart
      @DaveSwart Před 2 lety +30

      Oh my god - that thought just broke my brain.

    • @chaos4316
      @chaos4316 Před 2 lety +21

      Or Chris Hitchens

    • @undisputed1one
      @undisputed1one Před 2 lety +10

      I have a feeling he wouldn't let Joe talk and he'd just complain about modern life.

  • @mitchellcumsteen9220
    @mitchellcumsteen9220 Před 4 lety +883

    Is there DMT in elk meat? Jamie, pull up DMT & elk meat.

  • @kayleighgroenendal8473
    @kayleighgroenendal8473 Před rokem +2

    I'm so glad I'm not vulnerable to psychosis cuz I ACCIDENTALLY tripped on DMT for my first time at Electric Forest 😂 But Ive researched every drug so I knew what it was soon as it hit me.

    • @kayleighgroenendal8473
      @kayleighgroenendal8473 Před rokem +1

      @@blub-tf6rt Have you done DMT? Acid is like weed compared to DMT 🤣 I could take a hit of acid and never even realize it. There is *NO* MISTAKING DMT, honestly it's probably weirder than having schizophrenia.

  • @avakate7747
    @avakate7747 Před 4 lety +509

    The way Joe can retain information is fascinating.

    • @eddiepaul96
      @eddiepaul96 Před 4 lety +54

      Ava Kate people tend to retain information they have a passion for

    • @avakate7747
      @avakate7747 Před 4 lety +29

      Eddie very true, he’s just passionate about Everything! lol

    • @prezzle208
      @prezzle208 Před 4 lety +12

      It's even more impressive when you think about all the concussions he has probably had from mma.

    • @kapitanstark1922
      @kapitanstark1922 Před 4 lety +5

      @@prezzle208 all the concussions give him an advantage

    • @garrettcarlson7018
      @garrettcarlson7018 Před 4 lety +15

      This is why I like him. He doesn't admit it but he's a smart guy. If he a single passion for one thing and stuck to that only he couldve easily been a great researcher. I see him like. He knows a little about a bunch of things and kind of find ways to intertwine them.

  • @HRHDinaMarie
    @HRHDinaMarie Před 5 lety +490

    Good on this guy for actively engaging in a tough conversation. Not saying he's right or wrong. That's a tough spot and he engaged...

    • @tregggabbard6917
      @tregggabbard6917 Před 5 lety +31

      Right?! I keep seeing people Crap on this guy but I think he was awesome. Didn't shy from talking about the hard shit.

    • @Ozfreerider2504
      @Ozfreerider2504 Před 5 lety +20

      It was only a hard conversation for one guy .. the one who was very inconsistent on his interpretation of facts and had to constantly figure out mid conversation why his logic did apply to one religion or cult but not another. That's why he had a hard time ! Joe was very clear and had facts to back up everything he said ready to go with no bullshit backtracking like the other guy

    • @Razzy1312
      @Razzy1312 Před 5 lety

      Yeah, he definitely took the short end of the debating stick.

    • @justinmartin4662
      @justinmartin4662 Před 5 lety +10

      Of course he's either right or wrong.. He's making a statement claiming that the religious institutions in place are there because they work, and only made it because they make society better, stronger, and less corrupt, including the need to keep itself from becoming corrupt. Anyone that has studied the history of the Catholic Church especially should be able to provide enough examples from a period of 19 centuries on why that is complete bullshit.
      He also talks about priests passing down their genetics through their influence over their flock and how they effect the outcome of their lives, which doesn't make any sense. Genes aren't an intellectual concept, its a part of us physically, its why we have the characteristics we have like eye and hair color, and even if we are more susceptible to various diseases and are passed down from our parents, the reason why people often look like their parents.
      The reason why Christianity is so widespread and ingrained, especially in the Western world is due to the fact that for around 1000 years or so, if you were a pagan and lived within marching distance of a Christian population large enough to put together an army there was a good chance you would be invaded, and if you didn't convert you would be executed in some of the most cruel, horrifying, and disgusting methods I've ever heard of, and I've studied war for years..
      Claiming that there have been rules and structure put in place to stop corruption, to keep priests celibate, and prevent them from getting rich are just ignorant and how he claims they have been so insightful, otherwise other groups that think the same as they do without the mistake would gain influence.. He must not ever fact check his own thoughts, or do any research. There are thousands of denominations of Christianity now, Catholics and Protestants have been warring and killing each other up until just a few decades ago and now they have to put up walls to keep each other separate. Meanwhile there ARE Catholic priests that are married, priests in Africa are disgustingly corrupt and do great harm to their own flock while the Vatican seems that they couldn't care less, Bishops are living in million dollar apartments with their art alone worth tens of millions using the church bank to hide their wealth and they don't seem to do any good for society. When they do implement change, its often long after others have done so and they join the procession at the tail end and as Mark Twain pointed out, never forget to take credit for the change in the first place. They, like the Bible were pro-slavery, until most of the world had outlawed it, they were very anti-gay and responsible for the UK especially keeping homosexuality illegal until the 1950s, but of course now like to act as if they are tolerant, and that even gays are God's children.
      I could probably fill a book just explaining how wrong this guy is when it comes to the Catholic Church, and several others with the other cults out there.
      The definition, being "a group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister." easily meets the definition that most would probably agree with.
      The main reason why the cult of Christianity survived till now is because its always been about power over belief, if they stuck to their beliefs and tried to preach and practice the religion as its supposed to be practiced as the Bible commands, and what was far closer to being actual Christianity until the enlightenment civilized it a bit there would either be far less Catholics, or the world would be a far more horrible place to live in. Society isn't doing good because of these institutions, they are thriving despite them.

    • @veggiesaremurder
      @veggiesaremurder Před 5 lety +4

      That's why I love Bret Weinstein. He's not afraid to engage, and he doesn't back down when he believes something is wrong. Weinstein for President 2020!

  • @jamesevangelista6460
    @jamesevangelista6460 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Less than 2 mins in this clip we got a DMT mention 😂😂😂

  • @DADA-ey2ir
    @DADA-ey2ir Před 10 měsíci +2

    How can you not like Joe Rogan man😂

  • @gooser2583
    @gooser2583 Před 5 lety +494

    According to biblical scholars; Moses also went bow hunting, ate elk meat and did jiu-jitsu.

    • @scottycranwell283
      @scottycranwell283 Před 4 lety +7

      🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 comment from NZ!!
      Does that make Brendan Schaub 'Aaron'? 😂😂😂

    • @blairehninger9412
      @blairehninger9412 Před 4 lety +24

      We’ll call him ‘Joeses’

    • @DjPailor250
      @DjPailor250 Před 4 lety +5

      It's the Joe Rogan cult doctorine and rule

    • @winstonchurchill624
      @winstonchurchill624 Před 4 lety +12

      Wairua Tapu Moses actually parted the Red Sea because Egypt was out of DMT.

    • @WDChevyMan
      @WDChevyMan Před 4 lety +3

      And had a podcast

  • @brianmulholland2467
    @brianmulholland2467 Před 4 lety +280

    One of my problems with the JRE Clips is that half the time he has real competent people on, half the time he has wingnuts, and I never know which I'm getting until 7-8 minutes into the video.

    • @Justise77
      @Justise77 Před 4 lety +50

      Brian Mulholland that is the addicting part of his podcast, is like gambling

    • @JOE-ROGAN-CLIPS.
      @JOE-ROGAN-CLIPS. Před 4 lety +12

      That’s the best part bruv

    • @maxhowlett9661
      @maxhowlett9661 Před 4 lety +26

      Oh my god, you have to actually watch and establish your own opinion rather than being told what to think by some arbitrary title and some even more arbitrary and dehumanising political labels. woah. What a shame!

    • @Living_349
      @Living_349 Před 4 lety

      You don’t know Brett?

    • @Exploshi
      @Exploshi Před 4 lety

      javier del valle eddy bravo lmfao

  • @sarahcouture24
    @sarahcouture24 Před rokem +2

    You just blew my mind joe 😮 if you had my genetics, my life, my body, everything my experiences etc you’ll be right where I’m at because we’re all the same and separation is an illusion…That makes sense! I think intuitively I knew that, but what a great way of explaining it.

  • @eyesonyou6352
    @eyesonyou6352 Před 8 měsíci

    I'd like to know how interesting it is that you know millions of people have done DMT but you never see them in the chat talkin about it or bragging about it I think that literally speaks for itself

  • @teejt3737
    @teejt3737 Před 4 lety +380

    Joe's the type of guy who will interrupt a guest who's trying to answer a question he asked to talk extensively about DMT.

    • @justincarley
      @justincarley Před 3 lety +12

      Exactly. It’s pretty much how vegans socialize. Did he even care what his opinion was or did he want to just pivot to talking about DMT?

    • @teejt3737
      @teejt3737 Před 3 lety +17

      @@justincarley I'm afraid that when Joe hears something that goes against his mindset, he turns the topic to DMT as a defense mechanism.

    • @hazypsyche6452
      @hazypsyche6452 Před 3 lety +7

      Stfu they had a nice convo you penis

    • @teejt3737
      @teejt3737 Před 3 lety +6

      @@hazypsyche6452 Dude, relax. It's just DMT.

    • @suckadick7376
      @suckadick7376 Před 3 lety

      @@teejt3737 a wild joe

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou Před 4 lety +193

    I love how he's respectfully like "Im gonna challenge you on that".

    • @happyman35
      @happyman35 Před 4 lety +13

      @CALEB EPPLEY Yes, I was getting annoyed at that. Wished he would just shut up an let hom finnish a sentence. I would have been getting frustrated if I was him but to his credit he just went with the flow

    • @teeteereag1154
      @teeteereag1154 Před 4 lety +1

      I love how Joe had patience to be with a nut

    • @verne51
      @verne51 Před 4 lety +1

      @CHARLIEBOY SALDIVAR XIII Patients are what hospitals have. This guy displayed patience

  • @maetrixrises705
    @maetrixrises705 Před 7 měsíci

    What episode is this?

  • @russk1971
    @russk1971 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Certain people like myself should never alter their perception of reality. I have a huge amount of hate and anger about how people have treated me in the past. Therefore I do not use any substance that alters my perception. Yes, that includes alcohol.

  • @ZitiPatrol
    @ZitiPatrol Před 3 lety +304

    I'm so happy Joe exists so we can talk about these things civilly.

    • @loginyoass3771
      @loginyoass3771 Před 2 lety +3

      You can leave a religion pretty easy. Not a cult though

    • @dbxniker7484
      @dbxniker7484 Před 2 lety +1

      @@loginyoass3771 not all cults are bad like that

    • @MysteriouslyMilitant
      @MysteriouslyMilitant Před 2 lety +2

      Any cult that you could leave, can be left quite easily as well.
      It's in the eye of the beholder at that point, or on to the sole purpose, of what the individual really needs to do.

    • @blindi6326
      @blindi6326 Před 2 lety

      I don't think calling other peoples worldviews bullshit and dumb is very civil but okay

    • @KZ_MMA_
      @KZ_MMA_ Před 2 lety +2

      @@blindi6326 Telling someone that they're going to burn in hell for their sins, when they don't believe in hell, isn't civil either

  • @jamesdemile4181
    @jamesdemile4181 Před 4 lety +883

    His guest: *finishes going off on yet another brilliant defense for his argument*
    Joe: “Right. So let’s say you’re on a spaceship”

    • @M1N0rZ1rC0N
      @M1N0rZ1rC0N Před 4 lety +75

      And in the ship they have a ton of DMT

    • @sobieski9975
      @sobieski9975 Před 4 lety +24

      Yeah you can literally see him lose interest in any coherent rebuttal, and rhen he just segways to another thought. Good observation

    • @metalscottsman
      @metalscottsman Před 4 lety +66

      There was no brilliant defense of his argument. "It's old" doesn't address the question of whether it is a cult. Catholicism does meet the definition. And he makes multiple assertions backed by logical fallacies. Lastly Joe is still running a podcast and he will break tension or try to transition to another topic by saying silly shit.

    • @azariasstarchild8380
      @azariasstarchild8380 Před 4 lety +1

      @@metalscottsman a cult is a group of people less than a certain amount

    • @metalscottsman
      @metalscottsman Před 4 lety +21

      @@azariasstarchild8380 that isn't the definition. You have the internet. You dont have to just say shit, you can look it up.

  • @NP-ui3tr
    @NP-ui3tr Před rokem +1

    I don’t agree w many of Rogans views on certain social issues (trans community & gender identity etc) but god damn it does he do a Great Job as an interviewer.
    He is wonderful at moving an interview in the right direction but also takes things to different places that open up new debates & topics.
    Moreover lol, his range of people on his podcast are very eclectic, which I love.

  • @jackquinn7446
    @jackquinn7446 Před 8 měsíci +1

    So I’m not the only one who trips in their falling asleep stage

  • @alyssanautica7583
    @alyssanautica7583 Před 3 lety +708

    “It’s just a cult w a billion people” 🤣😭

    • @tania3609ify
      @tania3609ify Před 3 lety +4

      MY FAVORITE PART

    • @canadaeast8358
      @canadaeast8358 Před 3 lety +3

      That was awesome

    • @bodianlanding7777
      @bodianlanding7777 Před 3 lety +22

      “...with the guy who started it being dead.”
      Joe has a point though.

    • @gaylewatkins6781
      @gaylewatkins6781 Před 2 lety +2

      Joe ...Isn't wanting everyone to do DMT the start of a cult/religion?. DMT isn't for everyone..Joe's church of DMT. I was raised in the Catholic Church people changed because they were terrified they were going to go burn in hell.

    • @alyssanautica7583
      @alyssanautica7583 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gaylewatkins6781 I think he’s specifically said it’s not for everyone and there’s some people that should stay away from drugs completely but some people that could benefit. He’s definitely made jokes. But.. that’s his job.

  • @ZuzuPatriot
    @ZuzuPatriot Před rokem

    If I'm in physical pain during REM sleep, I have very vivid and scary dreams. Makes sense now that my mind is in a hallucinogenic state.

  • @IshtheStomach
    @IshtheStomach Před 2 lety +504

    "this is rough territory"
    "For you"
    😂🤣😂🤣😂😹😂🤣😂🤣

    • @ActionJackson669
      @ActionJackson669 Před 2 lety +9

      Facts 💯 this is only tough for one of us 😂

    • @IshtheStomach
      @IshtheStomach Před 2 lety +2

      @@ActionJackson669 Joe, could have said that and may as well have followed with "it ain't me!"

    • @native307
      @native307 Před 2 lety +6

      They still want to justify their voodoo and zombie cults

    • @chaos4316
      @chaos4316 Před 2 lety +12

      “No one cared who I was until I put on the mask”

    • @corrysmith
      @corrysmith Před 2 lety +3

      It's only rough if you're trying to come to some type of logical peaceful understanding. It's easy if you don't give a fuck about logic truth and understanding then you can just throw out labels and hateful rhetoric at anyone who disagrees with you.

  • @XBCsmurfCLAN
    @XBCsmurfCLAN Před 5 lety +1352

    Q: What's the Difference Between a Cult and a Religion?
    A : Tax exemption.

    • @XBCsmurfCLAN
      @XBCsmurfCLAN Před 5 lety +18

      The amount of people who have sacrificed individuality.

    • @DustinJJ98
      @DustinJJ98 Před 5 lety +3

      *likes.. ASSEMBLE*

    • @captdread2013
      @captdread2013 Před 5 lety +5

      @dumble dor three letters.

    • @energyfitness5116
      @energyfitness5116 Před 5 lety +38

      I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower, but you make more money as a leader. -Creed Bratton

    • @kelco4260
      @kelco4260 Před 5 lety +1

      Golden answer of the day

  • @vickyhamak9766
    @vickyhamak9766 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I 100% agree with you Joe. Same experience in Catholic Church.

  • @annimalasenko7326
    @annimalasenko7326 Před rokem

    Does someone know where I can see the full Video? ")

  • @Jmack7861
    @Jmack7861 Před 5 lety +1929

    Joe “I’m going to make every conversation about dmt “ rogan

  • @michaelelliott1212
    @michaelelliott1212 Před 2 měsíci

    Every time a previously watched video is "algorithmed" back onto my channel, I feel like I'm stuck in a time loop!

  • @jcvaks6649
    @jcvaks6649 Před 7 měsíci

    That was some freat debating. I agree with JR!!!

  • @jesseleighgordon33
    @jesseleighgordon33 Před 3 lety +140

    when joe asked brett if scientology is a cult, brett's face said 'are you trying to get me sued'

  • @InterstellarKev
    @InterstellarKev Před 5 lety +765

    Literally no one:
    Joe: Now let me tell you about this little thing called DMT

    • @1984Brandon
      @1984Brandon Před 5 lety

      What degrees has he earned? What professional research, blind studies, neutral sided essay was submitted to earn a doctorate? Did Joe Rogan have a thesis that was published? If the established medical journals are wrong what did he write that disproves them?

    • @HI-ej2xz
      @HI-ej2xz Před 5 lety +10

      @@1984Brandon r/iamverysmart

    • @1984Brandon
      @1984Brandon Před 5 lety +1

      @@HI-ej2xz Oh Reddit?! ...My apologies they'd never have trolls spreading false information in there.

    • @basedhumanofficial
      @basedhumanofficial Před 5 lety +1

      doesn't that tell you how profound an experience it must be?

    • @basedhumanofficial
      @basedhumanofficial Před 5 lety +9

      @@1984Brandon why does he need a degree to tell people how DMT changed his life? he's never claimed he was any kind of professional. i'm not sure why you need to be a doctor or a published author to tell people your life experiences, or why you can't learn something valuable from them as a watcher/listener.

  • @JoshuaGJustice
    @JoshuaGJustice Před 7 měsíci +2

    The problem with biologists is that they think EVERYTHING works exactly like biology.

  • @mikefabbi5127
    @mikefabbi5127 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I'm only a minute in and I'm already lock step with Joes outlook on religion being a big cult. I hope he explains the biggest cults...culture.

  • @happyolucky5354
    @happyolucky5354 Před 4 lety +391

    "Is Scientology a cult"
    "I think its too early to tell"
    Good save

    • @audreymota8423
      @audreymota8423 Před 4 lety +34

      Happy O'Lucky it is a cult wtf xD

    • @LeoMunayer
      @LeoMunayer Před 4 lety +33

      Audrey Mota oh for sure, but the way he structured his argument, this was the correct response even though he does clarify that he finds Scientology troublesome

    • @audreymota8423
      @audreymota8423 Před 4 lety +15

      lol it doesn’t matter its a cult end of discussion

    • @LeoMunayer
      @LeoMunayer Před 4 lety +34

      Audrey Mota wow you’re really great at arguing your point.

    • @deffonotdio6751
      @deffonotdio6751 Před 4 lety +13

      It's definitely a cult, 100% and it's also dangerous

  • @josephpretorius8607
    @josephpretorius8607 Před 3 lety +411

    My girlfriend who is very religious always tries to talk to me about religion. And I as an agnostic, believe that religion in an individualistic sense is extremely powerful and in most cases positive, but in a collective sense it is very dangerous. When a person is able to grieve with the thought that their loved one will ascend to heaven and their soul continues to live on is an extremely powerful and positive belief, but when her congregation becomes a popularity contest and every little thing anyone in the congregation does gets talked about (mostly in a negative sense) and possibly get ostracized by your so called family because of how tight knit they are. Even though they're not suppose to be judgemental they can be the most judgemental and cruel people I know. I know this isn't always the case but it is what I have viewed.

    • @jadenswitalski
      @jadenswitalski Před 3 lety +66

      Yeah a lot of religious people say “though shall not judge” but judge everyone

    • @josephpretorius8607
      @josephpretorius8607 Před 3 lety +43

      @@jadenswitalski all the time. Pretty hypocritical people. I mean I judge people, I try not to but at least I'm not vowing an oath and then breaking that oath like it's my job

    • @beastclips4642
      @beastclips4642 Před 3 lety +6

      You're all wrong!!! I've experienced enlightenment multiple times in my life. Agnostic is also a cult so do not be misguided in the logic that because the belief set in the worship on sience is void of a magic god or alien lifeform. It functions exactly as the so called cult does, you must except the belief set or Darwin and other theoretical insights including the big bang theory. So always remember and remain open minded to the concept that DMT slowly trying to guide us along. The methods do change and all cognitive mind's are not wired the same, some people need a structure based way of life, other's thrive on structuring the lives of others. As long as the ladder man in the last sentence is providing a DMT based interpretation that benefits the person adhering to the structure it's ok. It's true that the ladder can be occupied by an unwholesome person who exploit, manipulate and so on. It's difficult to convince people to believe they are involved in something proven to be a lie when every night you lay down, you have the ability to be subjected to DMT brain activity wether it be mild in nature or non eventful hense easily disregarded or extremely potent either pleasant or in the form of an intense nightmare. When you're subjected to that brain function from birth it's difficult to know what waking interpretation of this existence really is. We are all just hallucinating together during the day trying to make sense of biological life and resource management, yet at night we all drift into a singular realm of DMT and experience vividly mind bending perceptions that no other human had other then you. We should be vary carful with common sense and alter all belief set's over time to adopt what sience has shown us. Yet like I say my fellow human friends, sience is a cult, wether good or bad we all need to agree no belief set is void of insanity. It's a core function of are brain.

    • @josephpretorius8607
      @josephpretorius8607 Před 3 lety +32

      @@beastclips4642 bro I can assure you I'm not associated with a cult. I came to terms of my agnostic beliefs on my own. I get what your saying, and im not saying you're wrong. I'm also saying no one who believes in God is wrong. I truly do not know what lies beyond this world and that's fine. I'm not really talking about anything you brought up. All I'm saying is I respect religion when it allows people to grieve when a loved one dies with the thought they aren't fully gone since they go to an afterlife, or when times get hard and they ask God for guidance and believe guidance will come. But when religion is in a collective sense I have problems with it. That's all I'm really saying. I'm not putting down any one religion, I'm not saying me being agnostic is right, I don't know what is right, and nobody else does either, all we have is beliefs, and I believe if I don't know for sure then I can't act as if a God exists. That's it.

    • @josephpretorius8607
      @josephpretorius8607 Před 3 lety +11

      Exactly. Judging people will always be apart of our nature but I feel as if it's worse in the church

  • @kayleighgroenendal8473
    @kayleighgroenendal8473 Před rokem +5

    The bigger mystery is if there's a difference between beliefs and manic delusions

  • @AnnaAnna-hd9ww
    @AnnaAnna-hd9ww Před 10 měsíci +1

    Important discussion. Well done.

  • @sfcmp7005
    @sfcmp7005 Před 2 lety +408

    I was able to experience discussions like this with a coworker a long time ago. He was from Canada. We shared an office space and periodically we would have political discussions. We would always present the devil's advocate to each other on different stories. We were always able to present our points of view in a mature way, and at the end of the discussion we would agree to disagree in a friendly manner, and that was always the end of that particular topic. We never once got in a heated argument, and always recognized each others point of view in a mature way.

    • @aubreyshelton3217
      @aubreyshelton3217 Před 2 lety +17

      That's the way life should be!!! Good 👍 for you guys for being intelligent and patient and tolerable people.

    • @esk8er900
      @esk8er900 Před 2 lety +7

      I had to do that with a very close friend in college who I met on day 1 & became fast friends… a year & a half goes by when I learn his political beliefs which I genuinely believed was a joke, esp given his sense of humor, but no he was serious. At first I was flustered acting on impulse, and it didn’t go well. This bothered me, I actually felt guilty & I broached the topic later on at a different angle, mature, respectful, open minded, researched, and conversing to let a person finish listening to what they really said, to drastically different result. That’s when I learned how to agree to disagree because I had a personally vested interest.

    • @errbored1276
      @errbored1276 Před 2 lety +1

      U were both thoguhtfull subs fraise astrolguy .....

    • @sfcmp7005
      @sfcmp7005 Před 2 lety +1

      @@esk8er900 That's great. What I learned was that we both came from different backgrounds, and upbringing so we could definitely have different views. It was very interesting for sure.

    • @RowBlanka
      @RowBlanka Před 2 lety

      wheres that coworker now?

  • @Mikey_mau5
    @Mikey_mau5 Před 3 lety +397

    Joe-“Is Scientology a cult?”
    “Too early to tell”
    Joe- *laughs*
    I agree 😂

    • @ActionJackson669
      @ActionJackson669 Před 3 lety +13

      watch leah remini documentary bro its crazy and all from former members. Not just stories, they have EVIDENCE fr

    • @o.g.pyrexxpreacha2303
      @o.g.pyrexxpreacha2303 Před 3 lety +15

      Well technically the person who made it up has died...so according to his joke its crossed over to religion..

    • @phnix6242
      @phnix6242 Před 3 lety +1

      Lol

    • @TheVatonaught
      @TheVatonaught Před 3 lety +2

      and why did Reagan legalize Scientology...I can't start my own religion and neither can you.

    • @TheVatonaught
      @TheVatonaught Před 3 lety

      yeah thats a good post.

  • @nikirick
    @nikirick Před 6 měsíci +1

    This was great. Thank you.

  • @mattappleton3399
    @mattappleton3399 Před 14 dny

    Cult: Leader benefits at followers’ expense.
    Religion: Followers benefit at leaders’ expense.

  • @bluegone1
    @bluegone1 Před 4 lety +881

    Long story short: a religion is a successful cult.

    • @zuckle5319
      @zuckle5319 Před 3 lety +4

      Philippe Gauthier what might be close to a good conclusion?

    • @cbcnetwork5901
      @cbcnetwork5901 Před 3 lety +24

      Philippe Gauthier dog the dude literally says a religion is a successful cult

    • @jeshualeohart4703
      @jeshualeohart4703 Před 3 lety +10

      I was looking at the biblical time line and yo the blood line makes since all the way up to moses, like a huge gap is missing! then moses claims to know god comes down with this book and laws ???
      and moses just seems to be this guy who leads the hebrews who didnt have a leader, and they wonder around a dessert learning laws like 600+ for 40 years ?????
      But what makes me scratch my head again is, if you just got freedom from being controlled and enslaved by a nation that now is chasing you into a dessert, why in the excuse my language fuck would you go right next door ???
      Israel is right next to egypt!
      if you input in the map egypt to Israel takes 9 days to walk there and moses was educated by a pharaohs standards ? So he had to of known the area come on.
      Now smaller the scale if you are entrapped and in a fight with someone and that someone starts chasing you and trys to kill you would you go a few houses down? Nah
      I would high tailed my ass to alaska i mean go look on the map
      And keep in mind they had "god" splitting seas and shit so they could of went anywhere
      Moses seems like a military fraud who first deceived these innocent messiah waiting hebrews took advantage of a nation that is lost

    • @jeshualeohart4703
      @jeshualeohart4703 Před 3 lety +1

      @Warmage Two Crows this would make a lot of since actually i like your theory

    • @okuhtttf
      @okuhtttf Před 3 lety +5

      (cult) x (time) = religion

  • @misterfini6662
    @misterfini6662 Před 4 lety +281

    "This is rough territory"
    Joe: "For you"

    • @brandonguthrie8122
      @brandonguthrie8122 Před 4 lety +24

      Vincent Serafini he is highly open minded and thoughtful about the topic where as joe is not. Joes mind is made up so it’s black and white for him. The other man is looking to fully understand these systems and sees many colors.

    • @UberTheRandom
      @UberTheRandom Před 4 lety +4

      @@brandonguthrie8122 Thats because Weinstein is a wishy washy little bitch that is always afraid of offending anyone. He's been that way since Evergreen. He went with that whole mentality there until it finally impacted him directly and he was threatened. Then he decided he didn't want to go along anymore. The guy is 100% a weasel.

    • @GuruJudge21
      @GuruJudge21 Před 4 lety +2

      It's not that Weinstein is wishy washy, he's an academic, Joe is a comedian. Joe can say whatever he wants with hardly any backlash, in this case, since he was raised Catholic, he can get away with it entirely. Weinstein can't.

    • @kurianjerry4129
      @kurianjerry4129 Před 4 lety +2

      "You're a big guy"

    • @bigmike956
      @bigmike956 Před 4 lety

      Brandon Guthrie Joe is still learning. Hopefully he grows from this instead of putting it in the box 📦.

  • @ciarantiger
    @ciarantiger Před 8 měsíci +1

    Interesting seeing how Joe has become even more open to religion in the last 5 years 😎✅

  • @gregsmith2362
    @gregsmith2362 Před 5 měsíci +1

    ...a cult is any group of people, religiously or political based that physically force or threatens physical violence or death or emotionally bullies people into joining said group and then uses the same tactics on those who want to leave said group....in my opinion

  • @johnbenson9806
    @johnbenson9806 Před 4 lety +283

    Best believe Joe is growing acacia bushes in his garden.

    • @ahmadtarek7763
      @ahmadtarek7763 Před 4 lety +2

      Imagine he does that and suddenly decides to go religious .

    • @spooky-nz9vj
      @spooky-nz9vj Před 4 lety +2

      DMT is stored in the balls