When I smoked weed in Amsterdam where I knew I wouldn't get arrested and people wouldn't give me a weird look for looking high all of a sudden the paranoia was gone. The plant doesn't make me paranoid, the fact that I could get caught does.
Luke Lakatos he isn’t kidding about it. I don’t think psychosis is going to be that poplar but people are getting sick from using it too much. Compared to when many of our parents use to smoke they used about 80% less thc than we do now. Granted they did not do it as much as we do now.
I started smoking pot when I was 15. I was always mad, anxious, depressed, and being jammed with adhd meds. that’s what my generation got. Eventually I dropped the adhd meds they were jamming down my throat with everything else, and all I do now is smoke weed. I don’t drink any alcohol I don’t take any ibuprofen or shit like that when I’m sore. I’m 28 now and am a CNC programmer and shop lead for a very respectable machine shop. I’m also a father and outdoors enthusiast. Smoking weed has been a great calming factor in my life.
Mentally ill people is way to broad. Shrooms might help with anxiety disorders or depression, but might enhance the frequency or even initiation of psychoses/ schizophrenia.
@@codyminecrack248 That's simply wrong. People with a family history of schizophrenia, psychosis, or bipolar disorder should absolutely stay away from psychedelics or recreational drugs of any kind, including cannabis. Psychedelic therapy has had positive results for certain specific disorders, like substance abuse and PTSD, no doubt. But to generalize these experiences to all mental illnesses is dangerous. It's becoming clear that people with the most propensity to develop schizophrenia in their lifetime (men under roughly 25 years old, especially those with a family history of schizophrenia) should stay as far away from psychedelics and cannabis as possible.
@@Justin-rm6su ya you dont want people that are in their heads to be more in their heads. Especially with the weird thoughts they already have flowing through there. Depression and what not surs ya 100% itll help. But if youre already mentally ill id stay away from any medication. Only solution would be meditation in some isolated areas.
for me, weed actually does have a very different effect. I get very paranoid and panicky, and can't relax at all. So i just choose not to use it! it should still be legal though -- it effects different people differently, but ive never seen or heard of anyone getting violent because of it
I'm Dutch, weed is "legal" here for all my life and I'm a regular smoker. Never get paranoid. Last November I went to Germany for a weekend off, where weed is illegal. I had some weed on me tho. The moment the train crossed the border, I got paranoid. I could even smell the weed from my bag, which I didn't notice before we crossed. Very weird experience.
Every day life here in Sweden. Can't go outside and chill because I'll be heavily fined and get a note in my records which makes employment much, much harder when looking for new jobs. Visited Amsterdam a few days in 2013 and it was such a different experience, much more enjoyable and relaxing. I could truly appreciate the flowers in its fullest and I miss that sense of complete mindfulness during the intoxication. I don't drink and that doesn't alleviate any of my physical pains from my fibromyalgia, on the contrary. But I wish I could get it prescribed here so I was allowed to walk around in public with a burning flower in hand and not get those expensive bs pills or oils. Let me be free, let me use natural products to alleviate some of the pains and health problems I have, without penalizing or terrorising me for it. It's such a crazy world we live in...
@@robhernandez1827 Bro we didn't get we brag about the reason that anxiety even happens! Legalize it everywhere for everyone and that anxiety related to being caught fined and have future problems with employment will disappear
I used to be a heavy cannabis user, I had to quit because it gave me anxiety and paranoia. Getting out of the house to do groceries was a mission when high.
Getting high to forget about your problems is like stepping on a nail, and leaving it in then smoking just to forget its there, evergtime you step on the nail you smoke to forget you have to take the nail out aka fix the root of the problem
My fridge used to be white. But since this quarantine started it's turned a shade of purplish blue, now the door squeaks and it's sticky. I hope it's ok, Idk what I would do without it.
How does that even happen unless they are mixing the weed with harder drugs? Most people just seek more dopamine through eating and sex and feel tired. How does someone have the functionality to murder someone while using weed? I think it should be a prescription only and no smoking, only edibles that are so strong people who need it just take a nap. If it's too strong, nobody can stand up, let alone drive or assault another person. It's not good for anyone's mentality to constantly carry chronic pain. I can see where that is needed. But recreational use data shows people of all demographic and age are at risk to predators. Look at Dahmer and Gacy. They used weed to lure young men back to their car or place. It's easy to find yourself in a dangerous situation and not have the reflex to defend yourself or have a complete lack of awareness.
I recently started thinking "if the government is now OKing weed, growing it, and selling it to us, then it's probably not the greatest for the mind". I've experienced being around someone diagnosed with meth induced psychosis, I have never seen anyone trip on weed unless it had space/incense or extasy in it
@@zerofallen059 it comes in pill form. It can be crushed up and put into joints/blunts. Just like people can take fentanyl patch, open it up, scoop off the gel, and smoke it. People do weird things in drugs lol
I can't believe no one has called you out on this for over a year! Anyway, MDMA is a synthetic drug that usually comes in pill or powder form. When exposed to high temperatures, like those from smoking, it can decompose before entering the bloodstream. The intense heat required for combustion can break MDMA down into less active or inactive compounds.
You clearly didn't pay attention or avoided to. Just because a study is published doesn't mean it's accurate too. He highlighted that one study was based on inaccurate data. And if you have any commons sense you would see his point. Smoking pot does not have anything to do with defending your personal space or doing your job as a cop
To be fair, marijuana does have significant side-effects. In my experience, it causes involuntary laughter, munchies, and causes average music to sound amazing. EDIT: I've quit weed because I realized it just blurs my mind and overall makes me lazier. Much sharper and more productive without its side residual effects. So yeah, it's not for everyone.
@@yp.2514 I know exactly what you mean, shit is quite scary :/ As I was experiencing it I was literally saying in my head "calm down, relax it'll all be over soon", then another part of me was saying "wow you're really good at keeping yourself calm" lmao
Yep, I have to be careful about anything I enjoy too much. I'll most likely obsess and take it to an extreme. I've seen weed work wonders for other people though, definitely not the case for freak addicts like me lol.
Benzos, especially alprazolam. Since it's short half life, making you redose more often. Withdrawals can last months, plus it can kill you if you stop abruptly. I once had a social worker who told me weed kills brain cells and has killed people... while she puffs on her cigarette... here in the UK, weed is considered a class B drug, which includes other drugs like - barbiturates, dihydrocodeine, amphetamine etc. These substances affects everybody in a different way, that's why you start slow with your dosing to see how your body reacts to it. Especially when i first smoked i was completely out if it, but after smoking everyday tolerance had kicked in, so it no longer made me feel that way. If a doctor had prescribed medication with a dose to high, it could cash your system. Start slow and taper off it slowily. much of anything is bad for you. Apologies if anything I've said is incorrect. Be reasonable and don't over do it. If they fucking plant helps you relax after a hard working day. So be it. Just like people enjoy a glass of wine..
My experience with pot has only been that it calms me and allows me to focus, although my best friend as a kid had schizophrenia and whenever he would smoke, he would say things that were blatantly out of touch with reality, like thinking it would be cool to do bad things to women, or hurt his little brother, it was simply a negative thing for him, it all comes down to the way YOUR body reacts to it
But people love to generalize. “Weak minded people shouldn’t smoke because they can’t handle it. People literally pay themselves on the back comparing themselves to the schizophrenics who can’t handle weed. Like they’re better because they like weed, and some people don’t. It’s sad. If they dealt with 10% of what some people go through mentally they would realize how bad it actually is.
Mr Nobody I’ve loved weed all my life and I don’t want it legal. There are certain people who shouldn’t smoke and if you can’t get weed in illegal states (I live in Kansas) than you probably aren’t accustomed to smoking. I’m down for it being decriminalized just no head shops cuz certain people that want to smoke shouldn’t cuz they make us look bad by not being able to act normal on weed
First couple years of smoking it was nothing but bliss. All day every day, couldn't get enough. But as the years went on, something switched. Might've been the result of getting older, things in life having higher stakes, etc., but I started battling paranoia nearly every time. Handful of episodes I could even describe as psychosis. There's a lot of factors at play with having a good vs bad time, but when I decided to quit for good, I'd had a great day the whole day, nothing but good vibes, so I decided to capitalize on it with an end of day smoke. Wouldn't you know, it turned my great day into a panic attack. It was then I said this shit just aint worth it.
All I know is when I smoke i actually think about my actions way more and I’m calmer and choose the most laid back and safe option in any situation. Sharp on point always
That's because you are addicted. When people stop taking heroin they start getting nauseous and sick. So, the continue taking heroin and go back to being healthy. Therefore, heroin must be good for you.
@@sweatypalmz2812 all the people who say they have clearer thinking or feel calmer on weed. Feel so because they have used it so much to the point where the body feels that is normal. The same goes towards heroin. I am not directly comparing the two drugs, because one withdrawls make you feel like you are dying. Another example would be xanax. If you are taking xanax recreationally, and stop. You actually develop symptoms of anxiety.
@@maxwellhubbard2749 that actually makes sense. Your body has become dependent on it and when you try to stop your body expresses withdrawal behaviors, basically.
@@chrisoher I have had a couple of breaks now, and I must say. Smoking from one day and stopping the other goes quite well. I never had any withdrawal behaviors. When I tried stopping with sigarettes I get serious withdrawal effect. Chew on that mister know it all without ever have done it yourself ;)
Right like i start to get mad cause its so hard to follow speed limits and laws in that game. Like a dude jumps out in front of you its your fault and you die its like wtf lol.
I wish this were true. Psychiatric meds certainly lowered my inhibitions. I’d have hallucinations & problems with perception of reality, but I wasn’t having any thoughts or considerations in harming people until I was on psych meds. They took away the lowest lows, but also took away all highs-All rewards for doing good, all happiness, pleasure. Made everything meaningless & really just made me not care. Life didn’t feel worth living on psych meds. People not on them can’t understand.
I just abruptly stop taking them. I was sleeping from 12 to 18 hours a day. And obviously I have a life to live. So I stopped taking them, it’s been 3 now and I feel happier and more motivated to do stuff. Still though am having very unordinary and violent thoughts, not that I would EVER act on them, there’s still a few hints of psychosis still in me. It’s hard to differentiate what causes what. That’s the reason I’ve been so troubled in finding who I am as a person since every major episode I have completely changed who I am.
I was on benzodiazepines and antipsychotics for 6 yrs and you can't go off cold turkey, you have to taper off and cut the dose every 2-3wks before you stop.
Yeah I can understand getting stressed talking to pot advocates. I made the mistake of posting a very controlled study on the genesis of psychosis and cannibis one time under a Cheech and Chong FB page. Had two guys add me to messenger so they could troll me. Of course both had pics of them stoned out of their heads. For a drug that isnt addictive people sure do have an almost faithlike trust that it isnt harmful at all.
No dude you're ignorant. Having been in psyche ward twice and met many people like myself, smoking cannabis alone (far more then other substances)induces full psychosis in us, NOT paranoia, like talking to the paint in the wall type disconnect from reality. No I'm not schizophrenic or shizo effective, I'm just a totally sane fairly intelligent dude who fine all the time, but if I smoke I go stark raving mad. And clearly from this video and your comment it's something that needs more attention brought to it. I'm not anti-herb by the way, but it's a serious possibly life destroying danger for people like myself, and how does 1 know you're not a part of my demographic until you start puffing
Cannabis makes me extremely afraid and I feel extremely weird after smoking/get intrusive thoughts. I used to smoke everyday for 15 years with no problems until one day I began getting symptoms of schizophrenia/schizoaffective
I have to say I had a lot of childhood traumas and I was always diagnosed as a high risk child for psychosis. My uncle and my dad both have a big psychosis history, almost my whole family has a history of substance misuse also. I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t smoke tobacco, but I have been smoking weed for over 10 years now ( since I was 12 ) . I was a menace to society since a child but my smoking habits have really calmed me down. I never had a psychosis myself. When I travel, it happens that I just don’t touch any weed for like 10 days and it doesn’t make me withdraw at all.. Doesn’t bother me.. it’s interesting. I just seem to have stronger anxiety than what I normally have when I do smoke. I will admit that doing heavy edibles is the worst thing you can do if you are not in the right state of mind for it, or on the right place. They make you extremely paranoid and if you have anxiety it’s just a disaster 🤣 Since a child I saw so much pain and stress from hard drugs and alcohol, but I always looked at weed as if it was a medicine.
I have a similar past, lots of abuse as a child and i am a daily user. I’ve found the same thing with travel that I’ll not have any weed but I’ll still be happy and comfortable. There’s a lot of research coming out that says addiction has a lot to do with your environment, I’m wondering if a change of environment might help my underlying issues as well as my dependence on cannabis
Same bro… same. But after 5-6 years of smoking weed non stop all I took was one spliff at 3am while going through heightend paranoia to put me in a psychotic episode… a very bad one. My advice to you brother get off the weed and leave it alone.🙏🏼
@@shawnryan1313 I never said people don’t have bad reactions to it. If it affects you badly that’s your problem but to most people like me it is an absolute life saver. I used to have epilepsy until I got on medical marijuana. I’m now 3 years seizure free. Ur the joke.
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE why do you and so many other people feel so offended when weed is talked about in any other way besides worship or praise?? It’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity, you should get checked into a rehab center or something.
@@99mattdogg what would rehab do? It’s just a medication that does nothing but good for me at the end of the day. If it doesn’t do anything for you I couldn’t care less. I get offended because it’s people bashing it that gives it the stigma that it doesn’t need. There shouldn’t be a debate in the first place
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE Again, it’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity.. Practice your critical reading skills man, your mad ass response indicates an addict being defensive lmao.
He’s drawing the wrong conclusion...a lot of already troubled kids smoke marijuana. The anger likely comes before they start, they maybe go to smoking or other drugs looking for a crutch.
nichelle kmalvous rewatch the podcast. He stresses multiple times that his argument isnt that marijuana causes violent crime. The argument is that there currently isnt enough research to say that it does not or that it reduces the crime rate. His thought is that prolonged or heavy marijuana use, can create psychosis in mentally ill or unstable individuals which may result in violent crime. Its not a blanket statement that weed causes violence.
I have a loved one who went through drug induced Psychosis - she’s is absolutely not the same. If you haven’t seen it happen you won’t believe it, I was one who used to think weed was harmless
Same , until you see a loved one or your child go through this you wldnt believe it but it’s very clear when your in it that it’s psychosis from weed and or drugs. The paranoia is so extreme an delusions, they aren’t themselves it’s scary.
In my opinion, all psychedelics have a chance to give you psychosis and paranoia. That being send, it all depends on if the person already had these to begin with. And being aware in a existencial way is always risk at being mentally unwell. Life sucks. But its still life. Taking the filter off can drive people nuts.
Agreed, as someone that fell to drug abusing dabs,alcohol and psychedelics iv recently been feeling like iv been falling into psychosis. Even though I have been clean from all of it for a month now the feeling of being murdered and overall paranoia has really been putting an effect and as somone who came from a sober mindset 2 years ago and being as aware as I am to see what is happening I can’t help but continue to believe these delusions and out of the ordinary ideas that I think are completely true no matter how much I try to think otherwise. Imo I feel as tho from my experiences psychedelics was the main cause followed by the abusing dabs multiple times everyday didn’t help the fact of what’s currently going on. I can’t give a say on weed just because as soon as I quit everything a month ago it wasn’t the thing that tipped me over in feeling like the way I do it was dabs but I will say I don’t think it was what caused it originally even tho I feel like that was a factor in it. But yes it will drive you nuts if you can’t put mind over matter I can’t tell you how many times iv thought and currently think my food was poisoned, thought I was getting set up, thought people where out to get me and even looking out my window every 30 mins bc i think I heard somone pulled into my driveway to get me so far to the point I live in fear not knowing if tonight’s gonna be my last to where I keep a knife on me 24/7 for my safety of myself bc I’m so worried I’m gonna get got. But considering I’m 19 iv only started feeling this way sence the beginning of March and shi don’t feel real sometimes tbh but life goes on and there isn’t too much you can do other than therapy or meds but I’m trying to work on it by overcoming and adapting to it. But iv never had a test done or anything but just based off all the signs such as paranoia,delusions,music and tv talking to me,consistently recurring numbers, hearing things and recently starting to see stuffs not like people but like inanimate things? Idk it’s hard to explain. On top of being extremely gullible that has a fucked up family that can’t really trust anybody I can’t help but feel as if I’m losing it a bit lmao but that’s my take from my mindset currently from a “psychosis” perspective didn’t think I’d be giving a essay on a rand as post from a comment from a month ago but here we are😭✋ idk makes me feel good to talk abt it in a way
@@thomassmith6931 same bro I haven’t been the same since and I haven’t smoked in 3 years . I used to smoke a lot of carts I was high every single day and went to sleep high . I have general anxiety now and can’t really be around a lot of people plus everything looks weird and different it’s strange
Weed isn't a psychedelic... and I think you'll find while psychedelics *do* incurr a risk of psychosis and paranoia, the statistics I've found (amazingly!) have that much lower than weed.
@@queenieqt2033 weed doesn't make you hallucinate. Just because the government labels it so, the same government that came out with ridiculous reefer madness propaganda... doesn't mean it is.
Try smoking a qtr ounce everyday for over 10 years and then try to stop cold turkey. I did and ended up with the exact thing that this man is talking about. I was so close to killing myself and/or others because I was so paranoid and would fall in and out of a deep psychosis. Everything is fine when you keep feeding the addiction but when you try to quit, that is when these problems arise...
Yeah dont abuse it. A quarter ounce daily for that many years without breaks is just absurd. Over eating certain foods everyday for over 10 years everyday will also hage unwanted side effects
As someone who has smoked heavily and became psychotic due to it, this guy is right. However, there is no reason to believe weed is more harmful than any other drug or addiction
@@watsappenin2865 man . It’s definitely a link between the two. If you out in the streetz smoking loud all day hell yea it’s a certain level of paranoia that can lead to violence .
@@watsappenin2865 I don’t think that’s the weed buddy. The rest of us are able to smoke without murderous urges. I think that’s just you. I’m gonna recommend talking to someone who isn’t on the internet about that. Sounds like you got some seriously out of balance neurochemistry. Weed is really just not strong enough of a chemical to do that to you. If you really do have reason to believe that the weed is causing your murderous thoughts you should contact someone who researches the effects of thc. (Yes they exist.) I guarantee your situation is going to be a first for them. If weed really is causing this for you, then you could be the catalyst for a groundbreaking study on the ethics of thc. Between me and you though, I really just don’t see how that’s possible.
I stopped smoking weed to obtain a new contract that requires pre employment drug screening - I used to smoke 7 days a week sometimes 2-3 times a day - it’s been 15 days now since quitting and two things I’ve noticed is the first 5 days I was extremely irritable ( not anymore) and I my dreams were extremely vivid. But 15 days in I now see the benefit of no weed, like quicker responses, and I can think more clearly. No lie. Im not quitting forever but now I see when I start again I won’t be so heavy on it.
i smoked for years, teenage into late 20's and until recently its never given me psychosis or paranoia. I CANNOT use weed anymore because it induces horrible panic attacks for me now. i feel like im dying.
You clearly dont suffer from any serious mental illness then. I personally know people in my life that have had bad psychosis and others worsened schitz symptoms
When I was younger I was a heavily drug user specifically psychodelics. Now I think it was no good I abused it and started at such young age. But also it open my mind a lot and helped me with creativity. I think psychodelics don't make you better neither worst... As long as you are mature, responsible person. The is no harm in trying just as there is no harm on having some beer with your mates. The key is to not abuse, to do it responsable and know your acts always have a consequence.
Bantu African i like how he litterally says there is no real healthy human we all have some form of disorders. he just sucks at arguing but it's hard to be good when your point is trying to parent grown ass people by saying don't smoke weed you'll be a killer.
lol these comments are pathetic... as a daily weed smoker for over 7 years i can 100% GUARANTEE YOU that shit can mess with your head. Moderation is key but a lot of people don't have discipline. I have seen people become paronoid and more aggressive from constant weed use or due to a lack of weed... If you think smoking all day everyday aint gonna have no effects on ur mental health you're a FOOL
@@shipdrop7690 of course but you can't throw the baby out with the bath water, if you drink coffee all day you're gonna be irritable and twitchy, if you drink booze all day you're gonna be lethargic, angry and sick. If you bang adderall all day you're gonna be paranoid and restless. I also definitely abused weed and it had negative effects on my mind but I can't control myself as well as my friends who are totally fine and still use it, so I did the right thing and quit, because it didn't work in my favor. Personal responsibility is key over anything
@@shipdrop7690 too much of anything isn't good for you. Weed can definitely make you paranoid. I've smoked every day for about a decade now and it really helps my ptsd and social anxiety. It helps me function better and more.logically but everyone is different don't disagree with you
I’ve had my ups and downs smoking weed with psychosis. The vast majority of pot smokers tend to have a great and relaxing experience without any intentions of hurting anyone like I did throughout high school. It wasn’t until I got into college and noticed I had been developing psychosis like some of my family members did I realize I needed to stop smoking. Whenever I would smoke in late college I’d feel very hot and cold and would start heavily sweating while feeling extremely paranoid. I love how this podcast emphasizes that it truly depends on the person and that weed is a great medicine for the majority of ppl, however for a smaller percentage with mental issues like psychosis or schizophrenia, it can really easily sway ur brain into a psychosis state for those who are already experiencing symptoms. I personally think pot should be legalized recreationally as even though 1% of ppl who smoke with paranoid psychosis have a high chance of getting violent, the other 99% tend to have euphoric affects without any intent of hurting anyone.
When I started smoking weed it was amazing. Except for the few times I got too high and greened out. I used to laugh at stupid shit, eat a bunch of food, listen to music, and just have a great time. Slowly over time it started making my life feel like a blur. I would get high everyday almost all day. I felt like I was developing DPDR. I would forget if things had happened yesterday or was that 3 days ago? Or was that last week? My mind became numb and I was lazy as fuck. Then it turned into what I believe was an early onset of schizophrenia/psychosis. It started to make me extremely paranoid, even if I wasn’t that high. I would think everybody had ill intentions toward me. I’d think things I saw on social media and the internet were specifically for me / directed towards me and had a special meaning. I started to believe certain people were trying to contact me in some sort of coded anonymous way. I thought I was constantly being watched and judged, I heard people talking about me, etc. As soon as I stopped getting high this cleared up. What used to be a fun harmless drug slowly turned into a nightmare.
PsychedelicShaman just so you know there’s certain genes that 2% of the population have that basically make you prone to psycho breaks and can trigger your schizophrenia even if you’ve never had a episode it’s most common for men around the age of 20 that’s usually when you find out which unfortunately is around the time most people are at their peak when it comes to experimentation with different drugs so obviously to just blame the drugs and more specifically the weed wouldn’t necessarily be true it be a cop out
I’ve been smoking for 5 years with heavy use. Heavy enough that it was my normality. I didn’t even get stoned it just made me feel normal. I don’t smoke joints I had only smoked bong rips. Which is way more harsh and gets you a lot higher. I probably smoked about 6-10 bowls a day. Each containing atleast 0.2g I’m now 20. I’ve booked myself in for a therapy session as I feel like ive got psychosis. Especially now that I’m quitting I can definitely feel my insanity getting worse. The first 2 days I was too scared to stay in my room. My room was scaring me. At one point I had to stand outside of my house to feel some sort of comfort. Plus Every single mistake I’ve made in my life is cycling through my head driving me insane. Whenever my pets go outside I’ll be sat at my window until they come back in. That’s how bad my paranoia has got. I’ve kinda had to deal with it by my self.
I used to smoke alot to and loved it,but weed turned on me to it got to were it wasn't any fun anymore! Just to many negative thoughts and all the other shit that goes along with it! But man your not alone I promise you
I've had the same journey as you with my mental health. I also suffered from psychosis but it is not permanent. It is from heavy Marijuana use. Also it sounds like a bad case of depression you have going on which heavy Marijuana use causes all the time. I use to stare out the window for hours at a time. Whenever I would visit friends/family I would zone out . I do it not as frequent now but ONLY when I smoked. You feeling better when you went outside is because u are couped up in your room for too long!! Give yourself a break, don't smoke until noon and after and stay in therapy. You are going to be fine 🙂 also prayer is the most powerful tool against this.
I been sober now a few months and from what I’ve come to realize is that it’s okay to indulge in smoking weed and all the problem is having no self control and over indulging. Everyone can use a break to get sober for some time in order to get right with themselves and build on their own self discipline for the better.
@@bardoodlesnoozleor a discipline check doesn’t have to be about tolerance you could just notice you’re coming across it a lot and think it’s becoming a habit let’s see if I can break it at will good or bad habit.
I have schizophrenia and I smoke weed and have never had a psychotic episode while smoking it just make me extremely happy and goofy and feel really good. I’ve also never had feeling of hurting anyone ever and even when I was in psychotic episodes I’ve never wanted to hurt anyone.
I know someone that lives over in Dr. Mike's country who lost her daughter to cannabis psychosis. Her daughter grew up on a farm eating organic produce and nutrient dense animal foods. She was extremely vibrant, athletic, and level headed. Within 6 months of first trying a dab pen and using continuously, her whole demeanor and life plans began to change. She ended up taking her own life and later they read her diary where she was expressing paranoid thoughts and hallucinations coinciding with when she started vaping with no signs of being unstable previous to cannabis use. The cannabis that is manufactured now is far from the natural plant with much lower thc content and balanced ratios that used to be cultivated in nature. It obviously doesn't affect everyone this way but if you dive into it you will find that this is a common story and many affected parents and family members have come together to help spread awareness.
There are no pros to the chemical compound THC in cannabis. THC is the thing that makes people "high." THC causes psychosis and other mental health problems through the same pathway. The CBD in cannabis is actually beneficial and causes less damage to the body and mind. CBD doesnt get you "high." In todays cannabis, the THC:CBD ratio is unbelievably high, which explains why more people have horrible side effects.
@@frankwilliams5802 link me one study that shows the benefits of THC. They all continually state that it's the other cannabinoids (especially CBD) in weed that have the amazing benefits that we want. ALL THC DOES IS GET YOU HIGH. Its fucking stoners like you that will never help change the weed industry. The THC:CBD ratio is monstrous. We are smoking GMO pot.
Ivan Meza good I don’t give a fuck I’m old and succeeded in life I’m in MENTAL pain from fighting I don’t need to deal with all this shit man I want that GMO weed stronger the better so fuck you man benefits of THC I’m in a better mood instead of being my grumpy self
The violent crimes in Alaska are always rising, I heard of one murder happening last year in the capital (but it’s significantly smaller, only 32,000 people roughly) and it didn’t have to do with drugs at all. I think meth is a bigger problem and induces permanent psychosis much more often than weed, but those people almost always have specific issues with weed where it brings on paranoia and claim they cannot smoke anymore. There is also a huge huge lack of mental health facilities in the state that I personally feel like is keeping people with these issues homeless. I think the biggest factor is people are desperate and have no where to go here. It’s expensive to leave and if you already can’t pay the rent, the only way you’re getting out of the state is getting your life on track or going to federal prison.
Bro literally cries when someone interrupts him but talks over both of them at the same time when they make a good point and he doesn't like it. He just wants reefer madness remade sooooo bad
I had a psychotic/depressive break due to weed a few years ago, all negative symptoms went away after quitting. I'm pro legalization I just think people need to realize that weed isn't harmless.
I used to smoke all the time when I was a teen, then I got pregnant at 18 and after birth during post partum I tried to smoke again and it caused psychosis so I had to stop and now I’m too scared to even try it again. Drinking isn’t fun at all anymore either
Did it ever occur that maybe just maybe there’s something more underlying with you’re friend than simply just weed smoking bc I have a had friends begin panic attacks from smoking after a while but never psychosis or schizophrenia, only from like lsd or mushrooms weed don’t do that it’s bull
a large portion of both my parent's family became victims of alcoholism. some of them having their lives lost because they couldn't overcome their addiction. good reason to ban it, right? a substance responsible for ruining so many lives.
@Goatbe Bryant Could well be a possibility if you started smoking at 11. Brain is under massive construction at that age, plus most kids are still finding out who they are never mind taking mind altering drugs. Get what you mean tho, a good or bad experience will happen to someone, then they'll take their subjective experience with the drug and regard it as universal. Like when you see people who try weed for the first time and have a bad reaction (throwing up, paranoia, anxiety etc) and their view will instantly be switched to anti weed/legalization. Same goes for people who want it legal and readily available just because THEY have a good reaction. No one is the center of the world and both extreme ends of the anti and pro weed scale are equally pointless. Research and attitude to weed would improve of people looked at it objectively rather than going round in circles looking for a black and white answer to weed and it's effects.
what about CBD that comes from "weed" which shows anti psychotic properties and no recreational potential... 500mg CBD could be better than any anti psychotic on the market because of its lack of side effects when compared with typical anti psychotics
@@Sam-me5pl CBD does have anti psychotic properties, the problem is that modern weed is cherry picked to have a higher concentration of THC and lower concentration of CBD
@@sweetwaterbadrap7443 thats stupid 80% of schizoprenics smoked ciggaretes so nicotine cause schizoprenia?. and a lot of schizoprenics abuse drugs, theres no info that proves anything If was the drugs abuse that cause or they already had it
Had psychosis twice, schizoaffective disorder. Mixed results with weed depending on the strength, causes unpleasant over thinking more than anything, don't always enjoy smoking it when I have. Never felt like I'd be capable of killing anybody at anypoint, paranoid or not. Work in a psych hospital now and you do get people with violent tendancies who likely also have drug problems but see way more people who are victims of abuse/violence with mental health issues.
Before I ever touched drugs I would make immature decisions, now that I’m a smoker I can think situations through much more logically and realize how stupid I was, I’ve been testing and experimenting on myself and I can tell you cannabis definitely needs to stop being demonized and put under a umbrella with other drugs and linked with people with underlying illnesses, I believe it makes you more yourself
That could be, but if “more yourself” ends up being undiagnosed mental illness that’s not great. It’s not like the weed causes schizophrenia or anything, it only brings out what was already there and possibly exacerbates symptoms you never knew you even had.
I don’t think so. He’s passionate about this subject because of what he’s seen and how it is affecting people. I feel the same way because I get to deal with these kids and young adults who have obviously jacked up their synapses from heavy pot smoking.
@@slanttwo naw dude I think it's something else. He is extremely dismissed multiple facts being told from certified sources. I get being passionate but he's just being stubborn.
@@pob3987 it is when he's calling weed bad meanwhile he's attempting to take a neutral stance on a literal poison just because it's already accepted in wider society. and this is coming from someone who likes a good glass of kvass with a joint for dinner
@@pob3987 Hmmm so I wonder if alcohol possibly triggers violence or dare I say high rape stats too? Lol maybe all drugs come with risk factors and instead of targeting one, maybe Mr. Carpethead can do real research and compare the risk factors to all drugs including the legal ones.
I smoked weed for 6 straight years and never been a violent, paranoid person, I super rarely touched alcohol since as weed suits me better unlike alcohol which triggers me to do some things I wouldn't do while I'm high in weed. I just stopped because it's still illegal in our country which sucks and I might lose my job because of the random drug testing.
Thank you Joe Rogan for opening up this discussion and being open minded to all views. I lost my 19 year old son last year when he leaped to his death from a 9th floor balcony and I struggle with this question everyday. Was it me? Was it the abscense of a father? Was he bullied? Was it cannabis induced psychosis? I was not even aware he was using. Was it a combination of everything? Maybe he just fell. I'll never know. In the months preceding he developed disturbing szchizophrenia and psychosis. Personally, I don't care for cannabis or any other recreational drug so I am biased and judgemental. Still, I just blame my own poor mothering.
I wouldn’t blame your mothering, there are really horrible mothers out there and their kids don’t kill themself. I sure it would break your sons heart thinking you blamed yourself
I am a psychologist, and I am sure that you have heard this from your therapist (if you have one) suicide is not something happened suddenly, people should have mental genetic untreated issues during long time and it might have driven them into suicide, if your son had a serous mental issue you should have seen it as a mother. If I were you I would be convinced that it was an accident and he lost his balance and fell, that is the truth you should open your mind and accept it, I understand you may want to punish yourself and blame yourself but if you care about the truth you should accept that it was a horrible accident nothing more!
@@qazvin44you don’t sound like a psychiatrist and if you are you should definitely not being saying all this shit. Firstly I dealt with psychosis for a long time, my parents never knew. I was struggling quietly. It is not either of their faults. I was so paranoid I knew I couldn’t trust them. You can skip this part if just going into detail of why I felt I couldn’t tell them. (My psychosis episodes were all based on “being in the matrix”. I was convinced I was the only real person in the world, and all the other “beings” were just enemies who were running an experiment on humans [Me]. I thought what ever information I have them, by talking or just the way I acted, they would use against me. When i was around other people I acted as best as I could to pretend I didn’t have an insight on this information [That they were running an experiment, and that I had figured out everyone else were not human]. With that my parents or anyone around me had no idea what I was going through. Not saying that’s what your son was thinking exactly, and unfortunately we would probably never know what caused it. My point is there needs to be more awareness and advocacy for cannabis you and it’s negative effects. Don’t ever blame yourself for that. It was just an unfortunate event that was caused by a drug, out of anyone’s control but the user themself. Edit: I APOLOGIZE FOR THE PSYCHIATRIST ABOVE! I thought you were trying to blame the mother for not knowing her son was going through something. So disregard the part about me “calling you out” on being a psychiatrist.
@Josh Gaspar you can't be addicted to weed, not physically anyways. Yes it causes some paranoia but there's no evidence that it causes homicides nor suicides.
@Josh Gaspar so you met a guy in a psychward and you believe that he had some beers and weed now he's just crazy? Bro cmon you didn't just try to use a dude for your example that is literally in a psychward. Yes, but its not a physical addiction. You won't get the shakes from not having it for too long like with physical addiction.
@Josh Gaspar well that was quite literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard, that dude doesn't know if weed is why he's in and out of psychwards and from the way you make it sound he's only done once or only a couple times. You truly think that's going to make him crazy? Oh and you said he had alcohol how come that isn't the reason? Exactly. You are trying to push an agenda, you are grasping at straws.
He doesn't really know what he's talking about.. he sounds like one of those "I've never done that before but I know it's really bad." kinds of people.
After using for 15 years I developed anxiety disorder it started slowly last year but recently in April 16 I got it bad and still recovering to this day
Even though I rarely smoke marijuana through out many years and living the NYC, I've noticed every since cannabis was legalized the crime rate in this state has increased. #Facts💯
What he said was 100% true though. He obviously had bias but was more objective and had better studies then the other guy who was acting lien he was educated on the subject. There nothing wrong with occasionally smoking weed but you make your life it and protect it to the death.
@@benjamin1403 I think what you’re referring to is addictive personality disorder and that comes from genetics, you can be addicted to anything even sugar or caffeine but that doesn’t really have anything to do with the points this guy kept making about studies from early 1900s about cannabis saying that it causes psychosis, psyzchophrenia, and violent crime. These mental disorders are caused by genetics and people have these already going on in their brains just because smoking weed brings it out In people that already have a propensity for mental illness doesn’t mean it should be illegal or that it means that it causes mental illness it just brings it out in people that would already have mental illnesses. You are no different than this guy in the video who is just pulling information that is irrelevant and represents his biased ideas.
So I've been smoking for years and recently quit because I got sent into psychocis Over small periods at a time so it was barely noticeable, but I noticed and so did my family cause my brother is the same but yes if I have weed it'll sometimes send me into a psychosis that I believe people are trying to kill me like you said but it doesn't make me feel violent at all it makes me very scared as it does to most people that experience it for the first time and almost every time you never really get used to it, so it's people's response to the fear is what makes them act violent it doesn't make them angry or think violent things, it's a real response to a "real" situation in your head, and with me the best thing about me noticing my psychosis in the early stage is I was still conscious enough to realise hold on even if these people are trying to kill me I know somethings not right with me right now so it's probably just cause of that but just in case watch what happens and so it's the response to the fight or flight situation tbh some people will fucking freak out or some people try to relax and think rationally but I do believe there is a point where you miss the warning signs and if you do get stuck in psychosis without using anything the ability to think rationally is very hard and for some people they just don't and they don't try to cause it is a crazy experience, it's horrible, and that's why people commit these violent crimes, I thought my family was trying to poison me last time I slipped in psychosis and it's especially hard to say no it's not real because all of this is in your brain and it controls all your senses now all your primary sense are telling you that you're about to be murdered or somth I mean what would you do in a real situation like that so that's peoples thinking process when these horrific crimes happen and sadly these people are actually just like everyone else, although in the moment it is a chosen act of violence it is a natural response to the situation so your answer is no it doesn't in crease violence literally but technically it causes the brain to create a fake scenario that you have to react fight or flight to and majority of the people that already have irrational thinking will have more of an increase chance or resorting to violence, I figured this out not from studies I mean I've watched a few things but this is all personal experience and reflection and realisation you all should try it sometime 😂❣️
"Associated". You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Dihydrogen monoxide use is associated with 100% of violent criminals. Association is not the same thing as causation.
What he's saying is, its more likely and its true! Ive seen it around me i just quit smoking everyday all day and im so much less paranoid and i realise that people dont hate me like i thought.
yep, I must say I heard one French Doctor saying that there were many people taking Antidepressants we're actually committing murder and he says too that these drugs are affecting the brain in some way that the Scientific community even didn't know what really does ...
The argument is that marijuana can create psychosis which results in violent crime with SOME individuals. It is NOT about marijuana generally causing violent behaviour in the mases. People commenting are too baked to understand the podcast lol. The guy brought up a solid argument that we need to do more research into the behavioural effects of marijuana, especially in mentally ill people, and with heavy or prolonged use.
at this point it is bucnch of angry people looking at the system that incarcerates them for ingesting natural plant life forms ... you think that will make a weird situation or what in the peoples m,inds? ... is that normal to ban nature and watch the people suffer from a lack of ingesting said nature ?
Who cares if his argument is mentally ill people can be affected, it's so low. on top of it we would have to ban alcohol, prescription drugs etc. Plus you can't corelate a single case to his point.
@@kalmykdude and to mess all of that guys views up = Cannabis helps the mentally insane people of the world ... it just does ... certain Varietals of cannabis plant even more so. Cannabis is a very diverse and sophisticated plant that cannot be placed into one category ETC......
This guy is an absolute troglodyte dont defend him. We’ve seen what pot does to people over the long term willy nelsons like 100 years old already and im pretty sure he hasnt murdered anyone
When I smoke, I get a migraine, worst nausea and non psychotic hallucinations 🤷♂️ But that's me I wouldn't claim everyone's gonna die due to it, people even get better pain managment for cluster headaches with pot
I have schizophrenia and my therapist and psychologist saw how my mental health was smoking vs non smoking and realized doping me up on pills was the wrong move
there is also a lot of phsycotic people that should not touch alcohol. it could go both ways. alcohol will always be far worse then weed. it has been proven that alcohol causes people to be angry.
@@brysongammill5182 I was going to say the exact same thing, psychotic people tend to not be able to handle alcohol either, often with worse consequences, yet alcohol is perfectly legal.
@@brysongammill5182 Certainly, the problem, though, is that the vast majority of people will agree with you that alcohol can cause mental states that are more likely to result in violence, whereas most people would disagree that marijuana can cause mental states where this is more likely. We need to be able to examine these things without shifting the focus, taking away from the point that's being discussed. Each problem deserves its own consideration.
You mean your smoking didn't induce psychosis and violent anger?! That's weird...I always heard of people smoking weed and then shooting up a mall with an AK47. 🤔(By the way I'm joking,it would be funny if it weren't so damn rediculous and sad)#legalizeit
I find this funny because all throughout life I have met people I wasnt sure of but once we passed a joint around it was an ice breaker for everyone to relax and chill.
@@levibull6063 I do it only when I just got out one building and I’m on my way to another building. Not gonna keep on placing my mask on and off every few minutes it’s easier to keep it on it’s just a damn piece of cloth. Not like it’s doing anything for the virus it’s just to keep y’all happy.
When I smoked weed in Amsterdam where I knew I wouldn't get arrested and people wouldn't give me a weird look for looking high all of a sudden the paranoia was gone. The plant doesn't make me paranoid, the fact that I could get caught does.
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@@TheHotToke216 Haha thanks bro, I still stand by that statement. It's relieving to smoke weed where it's legal and more or less socially acceptable.
imagine not living in Canada
there absolutely is a correlation between doing a drug in a society where that drug is maligned and having a bad experience with that drug.
@@nielsssg I bet it was amazing in amsterdam
This guy seems more likely to kill somebody than any stoner i've ever met
Luke Lakatos he isn’t kidding about it. I don’t think psychosis is going to be that poplar but people are getting sick from using it too much. Compared to when many of our parents use to smoke they used about 80% less thc than we do now. Granted they did not do it as much as we do now.
@@liwric wht do you mean by sick
Nah I got the Canadian dude
legittherunner condition called chs. Cannabinoid hyperemis syndrome.
Shit :)))))))))))
Smoking a big ass joint while watching.....now imma go murder all the food in the fridge.
😅
Kill in your name aswell. You dangerous
I know this is a year old but what did you eat?
I started smoking pot when I was 15. I was always mad, anxious, depressed, and being jammed with adhd meds. that’s what my generation got. Eventually I dropped the adhd meds they were jamming down my throat with everything else, and all I do now is smoke weed. I don’t drink any alcohol I don’t take any ibuprofen or shit like that when I’m sore. I’m 28 now and am a CNC programmer and shop lead for a very respectable machine shop. I’m also a father and outdoors enthusiast. Smoking weed has been a great calming factor in my life.
That’s not healthy to start regularly using THC at 15.
I run marathons bro
Machinist squad
@@j-mAkesSh7tdoesnt matter bro dont fck up your brain developer
Taking adhd meds at that age or younger has to be worse. Amphetamine is a hard drug no doubt. 🐸
People with certain mental health issues shouldn't be having any mind altering substances. Period
With the exception of psychadelics perhaps. Studies show tremendous positive results for mentally ill people.
Mushrooms are an exception
Mentally ill people is way to broad. Shrooms might help with anxiety disorders or depression, but might enhance the frequency or even initiation of psychoses/ schizophrenia.
@@codyminecrack248 That's simply wrong. People with a family history of schizophrenia, psychosis, or bipolar disorder should absolutely stay away from psychedelics or recreational drugs of any kind, including cannabis. Psychedelic therapy has had positive results for certain specific disorders, like substance abuse and PTSD, no doubt. But to generalize these experiences to all mental illnesses is dangerous. It's becoming clear that people with the most propensity to develop schizophrenia in their lifetime (men under roughly 25 years old, especially those with a family history of schizophrenia) should stay as far away from psychedelics and cannabis as possible.
@@Justin-rm6su ya you dont want people that are in their heads to be more in their heads. Especially with the weird thoughts they already have flowing through there. Depression and what not surs ya 100% itll help. But if youre already mentally ill id stay away from any medication. Only solution would be meditation in some isolated areas.
let’s be honest, who really feels like hurting someone after smoking a J. definitely not me. 😴
Bang on. If everyone in the world got high who would wanna kill anyone?
AYAN swear, the only thing I’m hurting is my lungs.
for me, weed actually does have a very different effect. I get very paranoid and panicky, and can't relax at all.
So i just choose not to use it! it should still be legal though -- it effects different people differently, but ive never seen or heard of anyone getting violent because of it
@G G i know you CAN... point im trying to make is who WANTS to?
you can smoke a zip and still not feel violent.
I'm Dutch, weed is "legal" here for all my life and I'm a regular smoker. Never get paranoid. Last November I went to Germany for a weekend off, where weed is illegal. I had some weed on me tho. The moment the train crossed the border, I got paranoid. I could even smell the weed from my bag, which I didn't notice before we crossed. Very weird experience.
Great example ive felt like this my whole life here in California.
Every day life here in Sweden. Can't go outside and chill because I'll be heavily fined and get a note in my records which makes employment much, much harder when looking for new jobs. Visited Amsterdam a few days in 2013 and it was such a different experience, much more enjoyable and relaxing. I could truly appreciate the flowers in its fullest and I miss that sense of complete mindfulness during the intoxication. I don't drink and that doesn't alleviate any of my physical pains from my fibromyalgia, on the contrary. But I wish I could get it prescribed here so I was allowed to walk around in public with a burning flower in hand and not get those expensive bs pills or oils. Let me be free, let me use natural products to alleviate some of the pains and health problems I have, without penalizing or terrorising me for it. It's such a crazy world we live in...
It’s call anxiety pretty natural … weed just heightens the symptoms.
@@robhernandez1827 Bro we didn't get we brag about the reason that anxiety even happens! Legalize it everywhere for everyone and that anxiety related to being caught fined and have future problems with employment will disappear
Thank you mann
I used to be a heavy cannabis user, I had to quit because it gave me anxiety and paranoia. Getting out of the house to do groceries was a mission when high.
So don’t do it before you go shopping
@@monstermogar5597 yup, not good when you have to do chores etc so I cut-down to one late night joint, to kick back and listen to some music.
Try Indica at nights
And for others like me, getting groceries without a hit before going in is a mission🤷🏼♀️
@@monstermogar5597 hes killing his wallet to goin to the store high buy a bunch more shit that u dont need and with the price of food now.
When I smoke the last thing I want to do is start any problems 😂 you'll ruin your high
Exactly smh
💯💯💯
And I continue to do it 😂🙃
Bro fr. I want to start problems when I’m drunk. Not when I’m high
Getting high to forget about your problems is like stepping on a nail, and leaving it in then smoking just to forget its there, evergtime you step on the nail you smoke to forget you have to take the nail out aka fix the root of the problem
It's a fact pot heads abuse their fridge.
🤣
That sum bitch is always empty, and gets filled up over and over again. I eat a weeks worth of food in 3 days lol.
It's a symbiotic relationship
My fridge used to be white. But since this quarantine started it's turned a shade of purplish blue, now the door squeaks and it's sticky. I hope it's ok, Idk what I would do without it.
You are not wrong
you gotta be like really messed up if your out killing people off a blunt lol
How does that even happen unless they are mixing the weed with harder drugs? Most people just seek more dopamine through eating and sex and feel tired. How does someone have the functionality to murder someone while using weed? I think it should be a prescription only and no smoking, only edibles that are so strong people who need it just take a nap. If it's too strong, nobody can stand up, let alone drive or assault another person. It's not good for anyone's mentality to constantly carry chronic pain. I can see where that is needed. But recreational use data shows people of all demographic and age are at risk to predators. Look at Dahmer and Gacy. They used weed to lure young men back to their car or place. It's easy to find yourself in a dangerous situation and not have the reflex to defend yourself or have a complete lack of awareness.
Lmaoo
I recently started thinking "if the government is now OKing weed, growing it, and selling it to us, then it's probably not the greatest for the mind". I've experienced being around someone diagnosed with meth induced psychosis, I have never seen anyone trip on weed unless it had space/incense or extasy in it
Ecstasy in weed? Lol
@@zerofallen059 it comes in pill form. It can be crushed up and put into joints/blunts. Just like people can take fentanyl patch, open it up, scoop off the gel, and smoke it. People do weird things in drugs lol
@fjejaowodnfjrie nobody does that, it wouldn't even work the heat would destroy it. You can't smoke ecstasy
I can't believe no one has called you out on this for over a year! Anyway, MDMA is a synthetic drug that usually comes in pill or powder form. When exposed to high temperatures, like those from smoking, it can decompose before entering the bloodstream. The intense heat required for combustion can break MDMA down into less active or inactive compounds.
I like how
curly hair guy: A study says
Beard guy: A study says
Curly hair guy: no that's wrong
True, so true.
You clearly didn't pay attention or avoided to. Just because a study is published doesn't mean it's accurate too. He highlighted that one study was based on inaccurate data. And if you have any commons sense you would see his point. Smoking pot does not have anything to do with defending your personal space or doing your job as a cop
@@panagiotisvasileiou2063 ok
except he actually explained and contextualised why the other study was inaccurate on the basis of their argument.
@@panagiotisvasileiou2063 Everyone here is biased, they probably see him as an attack on the sensibility of their choices
To be fair, marijuana does have significant side-effects.
In my experience, it causes involuntary laughter, munchies, and causes average music to sound amazing.
EDIT: I've quit weed because I realized it just blurs my mind and overall makes me lazier. Much sharper and more productive without its side residual effects. So yeah, it's not for everyone.
Lmfao
That last part is true about anything from movies to the trees in my backyard
Ya weed psychosis is rly not fun speaking from experience
@@yp.2514 I know exactly what you mean, shit is quite scary :/ As I was experiencing it I was literally saying in my head "calm down, relax it'll all be over soon", then another part of me was saying "wow you're really good at keeping yourself calm" lmao
You'll have a few years of weed enhancing sounds then it'll stop and you'll understand why it's not good to use. Believe that.
Addiction is soul destroying no matter what it is.
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Yep, I have to be careful about anything I enjoy too much. I'll most likely obsess and take it to an extreme. I've seen weed work wonders for other people though, definitely not the case for freak addicts like me lol.
Benzos, especially alprazolam. Since it's short half life, making you redose more often. Withdrawals can last months, plus it can kill you if you stop abruptly. I once had a social worker who told me weed kills brain cells and has killed people... while she puffs on her cigarette... here in the UK, weed is considered a class B drug, which includes other drugs like - barbiturates, dihydrocodeine, amphetamine etc. These substances affects everybody in a different way, that's why you start slow with your dosing to see how your body reacts to it. Especially when i first smoked i was completely out if it, but after smoking everyday tolerance had kicked in, so it no longer made me feel that way. If a doctor had prescribed medication with a dose to high, it could cash your system. Start slow and taper off it slowily. much of anything is bad for you. Apologies if anything I've said is incorrect. Be reasonable and don't over do it. If they fucking plant helps you relax after a hard working day. So be it. Just like people enjoy a glass of wine..
@@chris0.o same bro
absolutely true
My experience with pot has only been that it calms me and allows me to focus, although my best friend as a kid had schizophrenia and whenever he would smoke, he would say things that were blatantly out of touch with reality, like thinking it would be cool to do bad things to women, or hurt his little brother, it was simply a negative thing for him, it all comes down to the way YOUR body reacts to it
But people love to generalize. “Weak minded people shouldn’t smoke because they can’t handle it. People literally pay themselves on the back comparing themselves to the schizophrenics who can’t handle weed. Like they’re better because they like weed, and some people don’t. It’s sad. If they dealt with 10% of what some people go through mentally they would realize how bad it actually is.
This interview was over at "peanuts"
Because the other stopped listening? The critic on marijuana made some good points and I'm for legalizing it.
Pretty sure there was like 30 minutes or so worth of interview directly after that though.
reddog24playa1 lol
A C lmao he lost me at ganja triggers homicide 😂😂
Mr Nobody I’ve loved weed all my life and I don’t want it legal. There are certain people who shouldn’t smoke and if you can’t get weed in illegal states (I live in Kansas) than you probably aren’t accustomed to smoking. I’m down for it being decriminalized just no head shops cuz certain people that want to smoke shouldn’t cuz they make us look bad by not being able to act normal on weed
Did this guy really say he thinks more people die from weed than peanut reactions..??
Ricky Fever More people die from the murders committed while high than peanut allergies
Ricky Fever yeah he’s ignorant
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Troxic Beatz you’re tripping. The only thing I’d kill while stoned is a glazed doughnut
Ricky Fever Yeah then he aint talking bout stoners like you
I've smoked for 15 years now and the only thing it's done to me is made me stutter
First couple years of smoking it was nothing but bliss. All day every day, couldn't get enough. But as the years went on, something switched. Might've been the result of getting older, things in life having higher stakes, etc., but I started battling paranoia nearly every time. Handful of episodes I could even describe as psychosis. There's a lot of factors at play with having a good vs bad time, but when I decided to quit for good, I'd had a great day the whole day, nothing but good vibes, so I decided to capitalize on it with an end of day smoke. Wouldn't you know, it turned my great day into a panic attack. It was then I said this shit just aint worth it.
It really just depends on people and their genes,only reason I'm still alive is because I smoke weed
It really just depends on people and their genes,only reason I'm still alive is because I smoke weed
@@mustbshadyStop smoking weed cause your doing everything twice😂
@@domingoarroyo2179 lmfao
@@mustbshadyeverything in moderation. I smoke once a week.
All I know is when I smoke i actually think about my actions way more and I’m calmer and choose the most laid back and safe option in any situation. Sharp on point always
That's because you are addicted.
When people stop taking heroin they start getting nauseous and sick. So, the continue taking heroin and go back to being healthy. Therefore, heroin must be good for you.
Maxwell Hubbard I don’t see any correlation between what they said and what you said. Like any correlation whatsoever.
@@sweatypalmz2812 all the people who say they have clearer thinking or feel calmer on weed. Feel so because they have used it so much to the point where the body feels that is normal. The same goes towards heroin. I am not directly comparing the two drugs, because one withdrawls make you feel like you are dying. Another example would be xanax. If you are taking xanax recreationally, and stop. You actually develop symptoms of anxiety.
@@maxwellhubbard2749 that actually makes sense. Your body has become dependent on it and when you try to stop your body expresses withdrawal behaviors, basically.
@@chrisoher I have had a couple of breaks now, and I must say. Smoking from one day and stopping the other goes quite well. I never had any withdrawal behaviors. When I tried stopping with sigarettes I get serious withdrawal effect. Chew on that mister know it all without ever have done it yourself ;)
Weed literally makes me a law-abiding citizen on GTA
Underrated comment. 😂
Powerful statement
Right like i start to get mad cause its so hard to follow speed limits and laws in that game. Like a dude jumps out in front of you its your fault and you die its like wtf lol.
FAX
Weed literally changes my day at all that effect goes away with your tolerance
I wish this were true. Psychiatric meds certainly lowered my inhibitions. I’d have hallucinations & problems with perception of reality, but I wasn’t having any thoughts or considerations in harming people until I was on psych meds. They took away the lowest lows, but also took away all highs-All rewards for doing good, all happiness, pleasure. Made everything meaningless & really just made me not care. Life didn’t feel worth living on psych meds. People not on them can’t understand.
I just abruptly stop taking them. I was sleeping from 12 to 18 hours a day. And obviously I have a life to live. So I stopped taking them, it’s been 3 now and I feel happier and more motivated to do stuff. Still though am having very unordinary and violent thoughts, not that I would EVER act on them, there’s still a few hints of psychosis still in me. It’s hard to differentiate what causes what. That’s the reason I’ve been so troubled in finding who I am as a person since every major episode I have completely changed who I am.
I was on benzodiazepines and antipsychotics for 6 yrs and you can't go off cold turkey, you have to taper off and cut the dose every 2-3wks before you stop.
Pothead: “I literally can’t get angry when I’m high.”
Rando: “Pot kills brain cells, makes you lazy and can cause psychosis.”
Pothead: 🤬
give the dude a few puffs bro he lookn hella stressed
im afraid he would die from the sheer embarrassment when he finds out what hes been missing lol.
Lol especially when he’s like wining when he’s not talking
No. He's just fighting against a very hard core group of people and so he became stupified by the way they combat his points
Yeah I can understand getting stressed talking to pot advocates. I made the mistake of posting a very controlled study on the genesis of psychosis and cannibis one time under a Cheech and Chong FB page. Had two guys add me to messenger so they could troll me. Of course both had pics of them stoned out of their heads. For a drug that isnt addictive people sure do have an almost faithlike trust that it isnt harmful at all.
No u
I feel like he killed someone while smoking weed and that's why this is so important, it's for HIS trial😂😂
EXACTLY 😂😂😂😂
Lmfao. Truly.
Looks like that kinda guy
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Laughed too hard🤣💯❗️
This dude acts like marijuana having a POSSIBLE symptom of mild paranoia is the same thing as it definitely causing severe paranoid schizophrenia.
No dude you're ignorant. Having been in psyche ward twice and met many people like myself, smoking cannabis alone (far more then other substances)induces full psychosis in us, NOT paranoia, like talking to the paint in the wall type disconnect from reality. No I'm not schizophrenic or shizo effective, I'm just a totally sane fairly intelligent dude who fine all the time, but if I smoke I go stark raving mad. And clearly from this video and your comment it's something that needs more attention brought to it.
I'm not anti-herb by the way, but it's a serious possibly life destroying danger for people like myself, and how does 1 know you're not a part of my demographic until you start puffing
@@joeyhoward-williams8853 Yeah clearly it's induced psychosis in you.
Cannabis makes me extremely afraid and I feel extremely weird after smoking/get intrusive thoughts. I used to smoke everyday for 15 years with no problems until one day I began getting symptoms of schizophrenia/schizoaffective
I have to say I had a lot of childhood traumas and I was always diagnosed as a high risk child for psychosis.
My uncle and my dad both have a big psychosis history, almost my whole family has a history of substance misuse also.
I don’t drink alcohol, I don’t smoke tobacco, but I have been smoking weed for over 10 years now ( since I was 12 ) .
I was a menace to society since a child but my smoking habits have really calmed me down.
I never had a psychosis myself.
When I travel, it happens that I just don’t touch any weed for like 10 days and it doesn’t make me withdraw at all..
Doesn’t bother me.. it’s interesting.
I just seem to have stronger anxiety than what I normally have when I do smoke.
I will admit that doing heavy edibles is the worst thing you can do if you are not in the right state of mind for it, or on the right place.
They make you extremely paranoid and if you have anxiety it’s just a disaster 🤣
Since a child I saw so much pain and stress from hard drugs and alcohol, but I always looked at weed as if it was a medicine.
I have a similar past, lots of abuse as a child and i am a daily user. I’ve found the same thing with travel that I’ll not have any weed but I’ll still be happy and comfortable. There’s a lot of research coming out that says addiction has a lot to do with your environment, I’m wondering if a change of environment might help my underlying issues as well as my dependence on cannabis
Yes i feel it. Cannabis is so Amazing!
Same bro… same. But after 5-6 years of smoking weed non stop all I took was one spliff at 3am while going through heightend paranoia to put me in a psychotic episode… a very bad one.
My advice to you brother get off the weed and leave it alone.🙏🏼
Love when people try to get on the soap box about weed when they've clearly never smoked it in their fucking life.
@@shawnryan1313 I never said people don’t have bad reactions to it. If it affects you badly that’s your problem but to most people like me it is an absolute life saver. I used to have epilepsy until I got on medical marijuana. I’m now 3 years seizure free. Ur the joke.
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE why do you and so many other people feel so offended when weed is talked about in any other way besides worship or praise?? It’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity, you should get checked into a rehab center or something.
@@99mattdogg what would rehab do? It’s just a medication that does nothing but good for me at the end of the day. If it doesn’t do anything for you I couldn’t care less. I get offended because it’s people bashing it that gives it the stigma that it doesn’t need. There shouldn’t be a debate in the first place
@@99mattdogg also did you miss the part where it cured a serious condition for me? Lmao yeah I’m such a crippling addict
@@THESHINIGAMIPOSSE Again, it’s not the greatest thing in the world for all of humanity.. Practice your critical reading skills man, your mad ass response indicates an addict being defensive lmao.
He’s drawing the wrong conclusion...a lot of already troubled kids smoke marijuana. The anger likely comes before they start, they maybe go to smoking or other drugs looking for a crutch.
Yes!! I was thinking the same thing
He knows hes just pushing his agenda
A lot of people who have schizophrenia, or violent tendencies smoke weed to chill out. I bet it helps more than anything.
Yes... all that can be proven... is that, 99.99% of psychotic people... are STILL psychotic when they smoke weed.
nichelle kmalvous rewatch the podcast. He stresses multiple times that his argument isnt that marijuana causes violent crime. The argument is that there currently isnt enough research to say that it does not or that it reduces the crime rate. His thought is that prolonged or heavy marijuana use, can create psychosis in mentally ill or unstable individuals which may result in violent crime. Its not a blanket statement that weed causes violence.
I have a loved one who went through drug induced Psychosis - she’s is absolutely not the same. If you haven’t seen it happen you won’t believe it, I was one who used to think weed was harmless
Same , until you see a loved one or your child go through this you wldnt believe it but it’s very clear when your in it that it’s psychosis from weed and or drugs. The paranoia is so extreme an delusions, they aren’t themselves it’s scary.
In my opinion, all psychedelics have a chance to give you psychosis and paranoia. That being send, it all depends on if the person already had these to begin with. And being aware in a existencial way is always risk at being mentally unwell. Life sucks. But its still life. Taking the filter off can drive people nuts.
Agreed, as someone that fell to drug abusing dabs,alcohol and psychedelics iv recently been feeling like iv been falling into psychosis. Even though I have been clean from all of it for a month now the feeling of being murdered and overall paranoia has really been putting an effect and as somone who came from a sober mindset 2 years ago and being as aware as I am to see what is happening I can’t help but continue to believe these delusions and out of the ordinary ideas that I think are completely true no matter how much I try to think otherwise. Imo I feel as tho from my experiences psychedelics was the main cause followed by the abusing dabs multiple times everyday didn’t help the fact of what’s currently going on. I can’t give a say on weed just because as soon as I quit everything a month ago it wasn’t the thing that tipped me over in feeling like the way I do it was dabs but I will say I don’t think it was what caused it originally even tho I feel like that was a factor in it. But yes it will drive you nuts if you can’t put mind over matter I can’t tell you how many times iv thought and currently think my food was poisoned, thought I was getting set up, thought people where out to get me and even looking out my window every 30 mins bc i think I heard somone pulled into my driveway to get me so far to the point I live in fear not knowing if tonight’s gonna be my last to where I keep a knife on me 24/7 for my safety of myself bc I’m so worried I’m gonna get got. But considering I’m 19 iv only started feeling this way sence the beginning of March and shi don’t feel real sometimes tbh but life goes on and there isn’t too much you can do other than therapy or meds but I’m trying to work on it by overcoming and adapting to it. But iv never had a test done or anything but just based off all the signs such as paranoia,delusions,music and tv talking to me,consistently recurring numbers, hearing things and recently starting to see stuffs not like people but like inanimate things? Idk it’s hard to explain. On top of being extremely gullible that has a fucked up family that can’t really trust anybody I can’t help but feel as if I’m losing it a bit lmao but that’s my take from my mindset currently from a “psychosis” perspective didn’t think I’d be giving a essay on a rand as post from a comment from a month ago but here we are😭✋ idk makes me feel good to talk abt it in a way
@@thomassmith6931 same bro I haven’t been the same since and I haven’t smoked in 3 years . I used to smoke a lot of carts I was high every single day and went to sleep high . I have general anxiety now and can’t really be around a lot of people plus everything looks weird and different it’s strange
Weed isn't a psychedelic... and I think you'll find while psychedelics *do* incurr a risk of psychosis and paranoia, the statistics I've found (amazingly!) have that much lower than weed.
@@Murderdogs lmao this shows how well you know substances because yes it is a psychedelic
@@queenieqt2033 weed doesn't make you hallucinate. Just because the government labels it so, the same government that came out with ridiculous reefer madness propaganda... doesn't mean it is.
This guy is definitely a step dad
Best comment iv seen
He's got the step dad attitude mhm
you a definitely a lil spoiled bitch of a kid
100%
right? - nope I had a rich step dad but rich step dad doesn’t mean rich step son lol
Grew up with a guy that started smoking weed when we were 11, he’s a surgeon now
And he probably stopped during college.
Alvin Walters i drank a gallon of milk and grew tits
Crazy Bobert fuckin soy BOY 😂 /s
@Alvin Walters 🤣🤣🤣
Alvin Walters dhot bro
Try smoking a qtr ounce everyday for over 10 years and then try to stop cold turkey. I did and ended up with the exact thing that this man is talking about. I was so close to killing myself and/or others because I was so paranoid and would fall in and out of a deep psychosis. Everything is fine when you keep feeding the addiction but when you try to quit, that is when these problems arise...
Yeah dont abuse it. A quarter ounce daily for that many years without breaks is just absurd. Over eating certain foods everyday for over 10 years everyday will also hage unwanted side effects
As someone who has smoked heavily and became psychotic due to it, this guy is right. However, there is no reason to believe weed is more harmful than any other drug or addiction
This guys on edge maybe he needs to smoke some weed.
m m if he smoked weed he’s realize how fucking dumb he is.
never heard that one before
Hey man weed doesn't affect everybody the same way just because you don't exhibit any of these symptoms doesn't mean no one does.
Maybe hes tired people arent willing to admit they may be wrong.
m m that’s what I’m saying pass that man the bong or something he needs to chill it’s not that serious
I can feel the salt in the room but joe keeps it respectful.
@@watsappenin2865 then you need help
@@nickmccormick457 gang gang
nice way to put it..
@@watsappenin2865 man . It’s definitely a link between the two. If you out in the streetz smoking loud all day hell yea it’s a certain level of paranoia that can lead to violence .
@@watsappenin2865 I don’t think that’s the weed buddy. The rest of us are able to smoke without murderous urges. I think that’s just you. I’m gonna recommend talking to someone who isn’t on the internet about that. Sounds like you got some seriously out of balance neurochemistry. Weed is really just not strong enough of a chemical to do that to you. If you really do have reason to believe that the weed is causing your murderous thoughts you should contact someone who researches the effects of thc. (Yes they exist.) I guarantee your situation is going to be a first for them. If weed really is causing this for you, then you could be the catalyst for a groundbreaking study on the ethics of thc. Between me and you though, I really just don’t see how that’s possible.
I stopped smoking weed to obtain a new contract that requires pre employment drug screening - I used to smoke 7 days a week sometimes 2-3 times a day - it’s been 15 days now since quitting and two things I’ve noticed is the first 5 days I was extremely irritable ( not anymore) and I my dreams were extremely vivid.
But 15 days in I now see the benefit of no weed, like quicker responses, and I can think more clearly. No lie. Im not quitting forever but now I see when I start again I won’t be so heavy on it.
i smoked for years, teenage into late 20's and until recently its never given me psychosis or paranoia. I CANNOT use weed anymore because it induces horrible panic attacks for me now. i feel like im dying.
Thats what happened to me at 19 and I've suffered ever since
Joe is being so nicely unbiased despite his evident love for getting baked
Regan Ross word
That’s how debates work, you allow both sides of the story even if you do that thing. It allows for reasoning.
And throwing in some good comedy in there 😂 @13:02
Lmao no I agree he was get frustrated
But holding still being open
Shittt I be in arguements sometimes, walk away; smoke a blunt, come back and not give a FUCK at what I was mad at earlier.
That’s kinda called running away from your problems
Irritability from drug withdrawal
You clearly dont suffer from any serious mental illness then. I personally know people in my life that have had bad psychosis and others worsened schitz symptoms
The guy arguing that cannabis use is associated with violence, needs a joint
When I was younger I was a heavily drug user specifically psychodelics. Now I think it was no good I abused it and started at such young age. But also it open my mind a lot and helped me with creativity. I think psychodelics don't make you better neither worst... As long as you are mature, responsible person. The is no harm in trying just as there is no harm on having some beer with your mates. The key is to not abuse, to do it responsable and know your acts always have a consequence.
"Fortunately healthy people do not commit murder that often." Lol
Bantu African i like how he litterally says there is no real healthy human we all have some form of disorders. he just sucks at arguing but it's hard to be good when your point is trying to parent grown ass people by saying don't smoke weed you'll be a killer.
What about the Vegas Shooter?
@@raygoss4371 theres quite a bit to that story that brings up more questions, unless I havent bothered to research it enough.
@@raygoss4371 in your opinion The Vegas shooter was "healthy"??? Plese elaborate since i have quite the opposite view...
@@raygoss4371 They set that man up
This debate can logically lead to only one conclusion:
We must act quickly to ban peanut butter.
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lol these comments are pathetic... as a daily weed smoker for over 7 years i can 100% GUARANTEE YOU that shit can mess with your head. Moderation is key but a lot of people don't have discipline. I have seen people become paronoid and more aggressive from constant weed use or due to a lack of weed... If you think smoking all day everyday aint gonna have no effects on ur mental health you're a FOOL
@@shipdrop7690 of course but you can't throw the baby out with the bath water, if you drink coffee all day you're gonna be irritable and twitchy, if you drink booze all day you're gonna be lethargic, angry and sick. If you bang adderall all day you're gonna be paranoid and restless. I also definitely abused weed and it had negative effects on my mind but I can't control myself as well as my friends who are totally fine and still use it, so I did the right thing and quit, because it didn't work in my favor. Personal responsibility is key over anything
@@shipdrop7690 too much of anything isn't good for you. Weed can definitely make you paranoid. I've smoked every day for about a decade now and it really helps my ptsd and social anxiety. It helps me function better and more.logically but everyone is different don't disagree with you
Because eating peanut butter leads to psychotic murder? Brilliant. Might make sense to a cannabis thinker.
I’ve had my ups and downs smoking weed with psychosis. The vast majority of pot smokers tend to have a great and relaxing experience without any intentions of hurting anyone like I did throughout high school. It wasn’t until I got into college and noticed I had been developing psychosis like some of my family members did I realize I needed to stop smoking. Whenever I would smoke in late college I’d feel very hot and cold and would start heavily sweating while feeling extremely paranoid. I love how this podcast emphasizes that it truly depends on the person and that weed is a great medicine for the majority of ppl, however for a smaller percentage with mental issues like psychosis or schizophrenia, it can really easily sway ur brain into a psychosis state for those who are already experiencing symptoms. I personally think pot should be legalized recreationally as even though 1% of ppl who smoke with paranoid psychosis have a high chance of getting violent, the other 99% tend to have euphoric affects without any intent of hurting anyone.
When I started smoking weed it was amazing. Except for the few times I got too high and greened out. I used to laugh at stupid shit, eat a bunch of food, listen to music, and just have a great time. Slowly over time it started making my life feel like a blur. I would get high everyday almost all day. I felt like I was developing DPDR. I would forget if things had happened yesterday or was that 3 days ago? Or was that last week? My mind became numb and I was lazy as fuck. Then it turned into what I believe was an early onset of schizophrenia/psychosis. It started to make me extremely paranoid, even if I wasn’t that high. I would think everybody had ill intentions toward me. I’d think things I saw on social media and the internet were specifically for me / directed towards me and had a special meaning. I started to believe certain people were trying to contact me in some sort of coded anonymous way. I thought I was constantly being watched and judged, I heard people talking about me, etc. As soon as I stopped getting high this cleared up. What used to be a fun harmless drug slowly turned into a nightmare.
this is a perfect description of what has been happening to me as of lately and made me quit. thank you for sharing.
You shouldn’t trust anyone who says “20 X” instead of 20 times
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That's what he menT?? I tought he was talking about the project name lol see this is the real dangers of cannabis
Weed sat me down on nights i would have gone out drinking,havent been arrested in the 7 yrs I've been smoking heavy.
PsychedelicShaman You may have had that before trying weed my man.
PsychedelicShaman just so you know there’s certain genes that 2% of the population have that basically make you prone to psycho breaks and can trigger your schizophrenia even if you’ve never had a episode it’s most common for men around the age of 20 that’s usually when you find out which unfortunately is around the time most people are at their peak when it comes to experimentation with different drugs so obviously to just blame the drugs and more specifically the weed wouldn’t necessarily be true it be a cop out
@PsychedelicShamanNo you didn't.
@PsychedelicShaman I doubt it
PsychedelicShaman if you smoked an oz a day for years your tolerance would be built up & you wouldn’t even feel that shit😂😂😂
I had a psychotic episode when on adhd medication, thanks for this episode and well done Joe for mediating x
Same that freaking adhd meds
@@leahnichole2361 dont take them
same
I’ve been smoking for 5 years with heavy use. Heavy enough that it was my normality. I didn’t even get stoned it just made me feel normal.
I don’t smoke joints I had only smoked bong rips. Which is way more harsh and gets you a lot higher.
I probably smoked about 6-10 bowls a day. Each containing atleast 0.2g
I’m now 20. I’ve booked myself in for a therapy session as I feel like ive got psychosis. Especially now that I’m quitting I can definitely feel my insanity getting worse.
The first 2 days I was too scared to stay in my room. My room was scaring me. At one point I had to stand outside of my house to feel some sort of comfort. Plus Every single mistake I’ve made in my life is cycling through my head driving me insane.
Whenever my pets go outside I’ll be sat at my window until they come back in. That’s how bad my paranoia has got.
I’ve kinda had to deal with it by my self.
I used to smoke alot to and loved it,but weed turned on me to it got to were it wasn't any fun anymore! Just to many negative thoughts and all the other shit that goes along with it! But man your not alone I promise you
I've had the same journey as you with my mental health. I also suffered from psychosis but it is not permanent. It is from heavy Marijuana use. Also it sounds like a bad case of depression you have going on which heavy Marijuana use causes all the time. I use to stare out the window for hours at a time. Whenever I would visit friends/family I would zone out . I do it not as frequent now but ONLY when I smoked. You feeling better when you went outside is because u are couped up in your room for too long!! Give yourself a break, don't smoke until noon and after and stay in therapy. You are going to be fine 🙂 also prayer is the most powerful tool against this.
@@Xo-xz6vi I’m now clean. I started when I wrote the comment. Feeling so much better 😄. Thanks for the advice tho. 😚
@@louism154 proud of you!!!
I'm right because it's in this book... My book
Jesus Christ our lord and savior is that you
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Lol sounds like religion
I been sober now a few months and from what I’ve come to realize is that it’s okay to indulge in smoking weed and all the problem is having no self control and over indulging. Everyone can use a break to get sober for some time in order to get right with themselves and build on their own self discipline for the better.
As a over user I totally agree
In other words, a tolerance break
@@bardoodlesnoozleor a discipline check doesn’t have to be about tolerance you could just notice you’re coming across it a lot and think it’s becoming a habit let’s see if I can break it at will good or bad habit.
I have schizophrenia and I smoke weed and have never had a psychotic episode while smoking it just make me extremely happy and goofy and feel really good. I’ve also never had feeling of hurting anyone ever and even when I was in psychotic episodes I’ve never wanted to hurt anyone.
I know someone that lives over in Dr. Mike's country who lost her daughter to cannabis psychosis. Her daughter grew up on a farm eating organic produce and nutrient dense animal foods. She was extremely vibrant, athletic, and level headed. Within 6 months of first trying a dab pen and using continuously, her whole demeanor and life plans began to change. She ended up taking her own life and later they read her diary where she was expressing paranoid thoughts and hallucinations coinciding with when she started vaping with no signs of being unstable previous to cannabis use. The cannabis that is manufactured now is far from the natural plant with much lower thc content and balanced ratios that used to be cultivated in nature. It obviously doesn't affect everyone this way but if you dive into it you will find that this is a common story and many affected parents and family members have come together to help spread awareness.
This is wholesome, these guys disagree pretty adamantly but can still share a good laugh. Good stuff.
Glad to hear real discussions about marijuana, the pros and cons fr
There are no pros to the chemical compound THC in cannabis. THC is the thing that makes people "high." THC causes psychosis and other mental health problems through the same pathway. The CBD in cannabis is actually beneficial and causes less damage to the body and mind. CBD doesnt get you "high." In todays cannabis, the THC:CBD ratio is unbelievably high, which explains why more people have horrible side effects.
Bigs You’re full of shit too.
@@frankwilliams5802 link me one study that shows the benefits of THC. They all continually state that it's the other cannabinoids (especially CBD) in weed that have the amazing benefits that we want. ALL THC DOES IS GET YOU HIGH. Its fucking stoners like you that will never help change the weed industry. The THC:CBD ratio is monstrous. We are smoking GMO pot.
Ivan Meza good I don’t give a fuck I’m old and succeeded in life I’m in MENTAL pain from fighting I don’t need to deal with all this shit man I want that GMO weed stronger the better so fuck you man benefits of THC I’m in a better mood instead of being my grumpy self
What af ucking idiot
The violent crimes in Alaska are always rising, I heard of one murder happening last year in the capital (but it’s significantly smaller, only 32,000 people roughly) and it didn’t have to do with drugs at all. I think meth is a bigger problem and induces permanent psychosis much more often than weed, but those people almost always have specific issues with weed where it brings on paranoia and claim they cannot smoke anymore. There is also a huge huge lack of mental health facilities in the state that I personally feel like is keeping people with these issues homeless. I think the biggest factor is people are desperate and have no where to go here. It’s expensive to leave and if you already can’t pay the rent, the only way you’re getting out of the state is getting your life on track or going to federal prison.
wow that sounds terrible
Bro literally cries when someone interrupts him but talks over both of them at the same time when they make a good point and he doesn't like it. He just wants reefer madness remade sooooo bad
did any one watch this high?
Yeah...
Yep. 😊
Yes
Si
Yah
That's strange, I usually only kill when I'm sober, if I'm stoned it just seems like too much hassle...🤔
FBI wants to know your location
@@highinjuly4799 I'm sure they could find me if they wanted to, this is social media after all 👍
😂😂😂
And it kills your buzz. DOUBLE MURDER! 😅
dang bro u might want to have some things checked out...
I had a psychotic/depressive break due to weed a few years ago, all negative symptoms went away after quitting. I'm pro legalization I just think people need to realize that weed isn't harmless.
I used to smoke all the time when I was a teen, then I got pregnant at 18 and after birth during post partum I tried to smoke again and it caused psychosis so I had to stop and now I’m too scared to even try it again. Drinking isn’t fun at all anymore either
Joe “social lubricant” Rogan
Awesome idiom!
Love the expression!
Joe is wrong.
@@unitedstatesirie7431 and you're obviously dumb
wtf.?
I bet that curly hair dude was the type of kid to remind the teacher about homework
And you were probably a kid that didn't understand the importance of homework. As if being honest and smart is a bad thing GTFO
@@hentsydesigns9046 dude, it's been 9 months, get over yourself
@@sea_triscuit7980 😂
@@sea_triscuit7980 💀💀
@@hentsydesigns9046 u were definitely the kid that reminded the teacher about homework lmao
this has been known since ever, i used to think otherwise but after my best friend went psycho i understood clearly how bad the stuff was
Did it ever occur that maybe just maybe there’s something more underlying with you’re friend than simply just weed smoking bc I have a had friends begin panic attacks from smoking after a while but never psychosis or schizophrenia, only from like lsd or mushrooms weed don’t do that it’s bull
a large portion of both my parent's family became victims of alcoholism. some of them having their lives lost because they couldn't overcome their addiction. good reason to ban it, right? a substance responsible for ruining so many lives.
I've been smoking for over 20 years and more mellow now than I was lol😂
I think Cannabis psychosis is the perfect example that weed isn't for everyone.
Vallente Dunn no shit it’s not for everyone
@Goatbe Bryant Could well be a possibility if you started smoking at 11. Brain is under massive construction at that age, plus most kids are still finding out who they are never mind taking mind altering drugs.
Get what you mean tho, a good or bad experience will happen to someone, then they'll take their subjective experience with the drug and regard it as universal.
Like when you see people who try weed for the first time and have a bad reaction (throwing up, paranoia, anxiety etc) and their view will instantly be switched to anti weed/legalization.
Same goes for people who want it legal and readily available just because THEY have a good reaction. No one is the center of the world and both extreme ends of the anti and pro weed scale are equally pointless.
Research and attitude to weed would improve of people looked at it objectively rather than going round in circles looking for a black and white answer to weed and it's effects.
what about CBD that comes from "weed" which shows anti psychotic properties and no recreational potential... 500mg CBD could be better than any anti psychotic on the market because of its lack of side effects when compared with typical anti psychotics
If you have mental illness lurking somewhere inside you, weed will find it & drag it out.
@@Sam-me5pl CBD does have anti psychotic properties, the problem is that modern weed is cherry picked to have a higher concentration of THC and lower concentration of CBD
This is terrifying while watching baked
I have anxiety and will probably smoke. I'm with ya.
ollie sando 😂
Lol I'm laughing, this guys a whole goofy talking about statistics in Switzerland and shit
@@sweetwaterbadrap7443 " a whole goofy"😂😂😂
@@sweetwaterbadrap7443 thats stupid 80% of schizoprenics smoked ciggaretes so nicotine cause schizoprenia?. and a lot of schizoprenics abuse drugs, theres no info that proves anything If was the drugs abuse that cause or they already had it
Had psychosis twice, schizoaffective disorder. Mixed results with weed depending on the strength, causes unpleasant over thinking more than anything, don't always enjoy smoking it when I have. Never felt like I'd be capable of killing anybody at anypoint, paranoid or not. Work in a psych hospital now and you do get people with violent tendancies who likely also have drug problems but see way more people who are victims of abuse/violence with mental health issues.
Also psych meds slashed my feeling of empathy massively. Putting that out there.
Before I ever touched drugs I would make immature decisions, now that I’m a smoker I can think situations through much more logically and realize how stupid I was, I’ve been testing and experimenting on myself and I can tell you cannabis definitely needs to stop being demonized and put under a umbrella with other drugs and linked with people with underlying illnesses, I believe it makes you more yourself
That could be, but if “more yourself” ends up being undiagnosed mental illness that’s not great.
It’s not like the weed causes schizophrenia or anything, it only brings out what was already there and possibly exacerbates symptoms you never knew you even had.
That guy with curly hair seems that he can get violent easily
His gestures with his forced laugh, I agree.
I don’t think so. He’s passionate about this subject because of what he’s seen and how it is affecting people. I feel the same way because I get to deal with these kids and young adults who have obviously jacked up their synapses from heavy pot smoking.
Omar Arancivia Bolanos both of them could've beaten the living shit out of him, i don't think it was in his best interest to try anything sketchy
@@slanttwo naw dude I think it's something else. He is extremely dismissed multiple facts being told from certified sources. I get being passionate but he's just being stubborn.
Dude need to smoke weed so he can chill out!
So a very small percentage of the population may become violent if they use this drug.
Let's go to the bar.
But he's not there to sing praises on alcohol so how is that an argument?
@Logic It has nothing to do with what they were talking about though. No one was saying alcohol is good or safer than weed.
@@pob3987 Yes, however it is generally universally accepted and legalized.
@@pob3987 it is when he's calling weed bad meanwhile he's attempting to take a neutral stance on a literal poison just because it's already accepted in wider society.
and this is coming from someone who likes a good glass of kvass with a joint for dinner
@@pob3987 Hmmm so I wonder if alcohol possibly triggers violence or dare I say high rape stats too? Lol maybe all drugs come with risk factors and instead of targeting one, maybe Mr. Carpethead can do real research and compare the risk factors to all drugs including the legal ones.
I smoked weed for 6 straight years and never been a violent, paranoid person, I super rarely touched alcohol since as weed suits me better unlike alcohol which triggers me to do some things I wouldn't do while I'm high in weed. I just stopped because it's still illegal in our country which sucks and I might lose my job because of the random drug testing.
Thank you Joe Rogan for opening up this discussion and being open minded to all views. I lost my 19 year old son last year when he leaped to his death from a 9th floor balcony and I struggle with this question everyday. Was it me? Was it the abscense of a father? Was he bullied? Was it cannabis induced psychosis? I was not even aware he was using. Was it a combination of everything? Maybe he just fell. I'll never know. In the months preceding he developed disturbing szchizophrenia and psychosis. Personally, I don't care for cannabis or any other recreational drug so I am biased and judgemental. Still, I just blame my own poor mothering.
I wouldn’t blame your mothering, there are really horrible mothers out there and their kids don’t kill themself. I sure it would break your sons heart thinking you blamed yourself
@@christopherlocke9616 Thank you. You are very kind ❤️
I am a psychologist, and I am sure that you have heard this from your therapist (if you have one) suicide is not something happened suddenly, people should have mental genetic untreated issues during long time and it might have driven them into suicide, if your son had a serous mental issue you should have seen it as a mother. If I were you I would be convinced that it was an accident and he lost his balance and fell, that is the truth you should open your mind and accept it, I understand you may want to punish yourself and blame yourself but if you care about the truth you should accept that it was a horrible accident nothing more!
@@qazvin44you don’t sound like a psychiatrist and if you are you should definitely not being saying all this shit. Firstly I dealt with psychosis for a long time, my parents never knew. I was struggling quietly. It is not either of their faults. I was so paranoid I knew I couldn’t trust them.
You can skip this part if just going into detail of why I felt I couldn’t tell them. (My psychosis episodes were all based on “being in the matrix”. I was convinced I was the only real person in the world, and all the other “beings” were just enemies who were running an experiment on humans [Me]. I thought what ever information I have them, by talking or just the way I acted, they would use against me. When i was around other people I acted as best as I could to pretend I didn’t have an insight on this information [That they were running an experiment, and that I had figured out everyone else were not human]. With that my parents or anyone around me had no idea what I was going through.
Not saying that’s what your son was thinking exactly, and unfortunately we would probably never know what caused it. My point is there needs to be more awareness and advocacy for cannabis you and it’s negative effects.
Don’t ever blame yourself for that. It was just an unfortunate event that was caused by a drug, out of anyone’s control but the user themself.
Edit: I APOLOGIZE FOR THE PSYCHIATRIST ABOVE! I thought you were trying to blame the mother for not knowing her son was going through something. So disregard the part about me “calling you out” on being a psychiatrist.
This dudes so wrong even Jamie had to go in on him lmaoo
@Josh Gaspar don't tell me you agree with this dumbass.
@Josh Gaspar you can't be addicted to weed, not physically anyways. Yes it causes some paranoia but there's no evidence that it causes homicides nor suicides.
@Josh Gaspar joe rogan johann hari war on drugs this guy did something on the podcast about this it goes way more in depth
@Josh Gaspar so you met a guy in a psychward and you believe that he had some beers and weed now he's just crazy? Bro cmon you didn't just try to use a dude for your example that is literally in a psychward. Yes, but its not a physical addiction. You won't get the shakes from not having it for too long like with physical addiction.
@Josh Gaspar well that was quite literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard, that dude doesn't know if weed is why he's in and out of psychwards and from the way you make it sound he's only done once or only a couple times. You truly think that's going to make him crazy? Oh and you said he had alcohol how come that isn't the reason? Exactly. You are trying to push an agenda, you are grasping at straws.
He doesn't really know what he's talking about.. he sounds like one of those "I've never done that before but I know it's really bad." kinds of people.
True dat. Smoke up nibbaz all day err day homie. Swag
Jacob Gross why would you wish that on anyone
@@Notoriousnipple Maybe your just having a
spiritual aweakening and it's out of contex because of our colture. Look up rupert spira
Jacob Gross Wack
cactusjack lolol
After using for 15 years I developed anxiety disorder it started slowly last year but recently in April 16 I got it bad and still recovering to this day
Even though I rarely smoke marijuana through out many years and living the NYC,
I've noticed every since cannabis was legalized the crime rate in this state has increased. #Facts💯
homie can’t listen to anybody else’s side when they try to speak on anything that differs from his own bias
So fuckin true. People like that are just a waste of the precious JRE time.
He clearly is pulling it out his ass, lol he needa blunt😂😂❤️
What he said was 100% true though. He obviously had bias but was more objective and had better studies then the other guy who was acting lien he was educated on the subject. There nothing wrong with occasionally smoking weed but you make your life it and protect it to the death.
@@benjamin1403 its mad how many people are in denial
@@benjamin1403 I think what you’re referring to is addictive personality disorder and that comes from genetics, you can be addicted to anything even sugar or caffeine but that doesn’t really have anything to do with the points this guy kept making about studies from early 1900s about cannabis saying that it causes psychosis, psyzchophrenia, and violent crime. These mental disorders are caused by genetics and people have these already going on in their brains just because smoking weed brings it out In people that already have a propensity for mental illness doesn’t mean it should be illegal or that it means that it causes mental illness it just brings it out in people that would already have mental illnesses. You are no different than this guy in the video who is just pulling information that is irrelevant and represents his biased ideas.
Get that guy stoned or give him some peanuts
10speedmofia 112 even better if you give him peanut edibles
Better to die than to go to hell for years before you give up.
That should be the title of his next book lol.
Some of us have self-control and actually care about other things than short term pleasure, you know.
short term? have you ever had an edible?
not to mention it takes a certain self control to deal with edibles. hey but to each his own.
Dude I love when Jamie gets more involved with discussions
So I've been smoking for years and recently quit because I got sent into psychocis Over small periods at a time so it was barely noticeable, but I noticed and so did my family cause my brother is the same but yes if I have weed it'll sometimes send me into a psychosis that I believe people are trying to kill me like you said but it doesn't make me feel violent at all it makes me very scared as it does to most people that experience it for the first time and almost every time you never really get used to it, so it's people's response to the fear is what makes them act violent it doesn't make them angry or think violent things, it's a real response to a "real" situation in your head, and with me the best thing about me noticing my psychosis in the early stage is I was still conscious enough to realise hold on even if these people are trying to kill me I know somethings not right with me right now so it's probably just cause of that but just in case watch what happens and so it's the response to the fight or flight situation tbh some people will fucking freak out or some people try to relax and think rationally but I do believe there is a point where you miss the warning signs and if you do get stuck in psychosis without using anything the ability to think rationally is very hard and for some people they just don't and they don't try to cause it is a crazy experience, it's horrible, and that's why people commit these violent crimes, I thought my family was trying to poison me last time I slipped in psychosis and it's especially hard to say no it's not real because all of this is in your brain and it controls all your senses now all your primary sense are telling you that you're about to be murdered or somth I mean what would you do in a real situation like that so that's peoples thinking process when these horrific crimes happen and sadly these people are actually just like everyone else, although in the moment it is a chosen act of violence it is a natural response to the situation so your answer is no it doesn't in crease violence literally but technically it causes the brain to create a fake scenario that you have to react fight or flight to and majority of the people that already have irrational thinking will have more of an increase chance or resorting to violence, I figured this out not from studies I mean I've watched a few things but this is all personal experience and reflection and realisation you all should try it sometime 😂❣️
"Associated". You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Dihydrogen monoxide use is associated with 100% of violent criminals. Association is not the same thing as causation.
Grout Grout I see what you did there H20 , but you are correct
I see what you really did there a Movie " from the princess bride😂🙏😊
What he's saying is, its more likely and its true! Ive seen it around me i just quit smoking everyday all day and im so much less paranoid and i realise that people dont hate me like i thought.
He sounds like he works for a pharmaceutical company
Ayo I just smoked a fat blunt and fucking curb stomped my grandma. Legalize it BIOTCH!
You're just a stupid pot head
I’m violent pothead so smd
@@willygrags4367"Curb stomped my Gma."- Willy 🤣🤣😂 greatest troll
yep, I must say I heard one French Doctor saying that there were many people taking Antidepressants we're actually committing murder and he says too that these drugs are affecting the brain in some way that the Scientific community even didn't know what really does ...
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This is why I love JRE, he is obviously a fan of 🍃 but to be able to dissect the bad side of it is why I’ll stay a fan of him
That laughter at 32.32 was pretty epic, ESPECIALLY with that touch of high pitched laughter sprinkled in between!
The argument is that marijuana can create psychosis which results in violent crime with SOME individuals. It is NOT about marijuana generally causing violent behaviour in the mases. People commenting are too baked to understand the podcast lol. The guy brought up a solid argument that we need to do more research into the behavioural effects of marijuana, especially in mentally ill people, and with heavy or prolonged use.
at this point it is bucnch of angry people looking at the system that incarcerates them for ingesting natural plant life forms ... you think that will make a weird situation or what in the peoples m,inds? ... is that normal to ban nature and watch the people suffer from a lack of ingesting said nature ?
Who cares if his argument is mentally ill people can be affected, it's so low. on top of it we would have to ban alcohol, prescription drugs etc. Plus you can't corelate a single case to his point.
@@kalmykdude and to mess all of that guys views up = Cannabis helps the mentally insane people of the world ... it just does ... certain Varietals of cannabis plant even more so. Cannabis is a very diverse and sophisticated plant that cannot be placed into one category ETC......
This guy is an absolute troglodyte dont defend him. We’ve seen what pot does to people over the long term willy nelsons like 100 years old already and im pretty sure he hasnt murdered anyone
@@nerdgamer6047 Like how 2/3 of cigarette smokers live an average length life and don’t get lung cancer.
When I smoke I want to be everyone’s friend 😂😂
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Even when they live in a hut and are inbred? Eh morgan?
In that homicidal way :D
@@jaysherriff3086 yeh
When I smoke, I get a migraine, worst nausea and non psychotic hallucinations 🤷♂️
But that's me
I wouldn't claim everyone's gonna die due to it, people even get better pain managment for cluster headaches with pot
Good to see this conversation going after 4 yrs. 💨 Has anyone come across a follow-up or similar JR discussion on weed? ✌️😁💨💨☕️
I have schizophrenia and my therapist and psychologist saw how my mental health was smoking vs non smoking and realized doping me up on pills was the wrong move
I’m all for legalization but this discussion is right on point. There are a lot of psychotic people that should not be smoking whatsoever.
But it also can cause psychosis and schizophrenia for people who are susceptible. So that’s Pat of the problem there
there is also a lot of phsycotic people that should not touch alcohol. it could go both ways. alcohol will always be far worse then weed. it has been proven that alcohol causes people to be angry.
@@brysongammill5182 I was going to say the exact same thing, psychotic people tend to not be able to handle alcohol either, often with worse consequences, yet alcohol is perfectly legal.
@@brysongammill5182 Certainly, the problem, though, is that the vast majority of people will agree with you that alcohol can cause mental states that are more likely to result in violence, whereas most people would disagree that marijuana can cause mental states where this is more likely. We need to be able to examine these things without shifting the focus, taking away from the point that's being discussed. Each problem deserves its own consideration.
Problem is already home. Don't blame weed that's a cop out.
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Watching him confidently spew propaganda got me so aggravated I had to smoke. Now I can calmly disagree with him. Weird.
that doesnt sound right to be honest. coming from an occasional weed smoker
You mean your smoking didn't induce psychosis and violent anger?! That's weird...I always heard of people smoking weed and then shooting up a mall with an AK47. 🤔(By the way I'm joking,it would be funny if it weren't so damn rediculous and sad)#legalizeit
Šapi Beats you should try some better weed bud
Matt K. Hahaha same dude!😅
brah. that's the best comment on here by far
“The greatest disorder of the mind is to allow the will to direct the belief”
-Louis Pasteur
I find this funny because all throughout life I have met people I wasnt sure of but once we passed a joint around it was an ice breaker for everyone to relax and chill.
Probably wears a mask in his car when he drives
Im very confused by those people ...
@@levibull6063 I do it only when I just got out one building and I’m on my way to another building. Not gonna keep on placing my mask on and off every few minutes it’s easier to keep it on it’s just a damn piece of cloth. Not like it’s doing anything for the virus it’s just to keep y’all happy.
You’re probably one of those anti maskers who doesn’t wear one at all
I've caught myself once or twice. On my way out I forget I have it on after having to wear it to go inside a store.
said God
Def seen more fights at bars and clubs than backyard smoke sessions
can someone tell me who won the debate? I was too busy getting high and committing murder to a bag of takis
😂 Haha you won
My best friend has a weird psychological reaction to marijuana. If he smokes half a joint he has a panic attack and becomes borderline psychotic.