Drinker's Chasers - Rewriting The Past To Control The Future

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  • čas přidán 21. 10. 2022
  • With more and more prequel shows and movies getting released in recent years, its beginning to feel like there's an agenda at work. Almost like showrunners today are trying to retcon the history of classic stories, so they can take credit for the success of far better writers.
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  • @ariel_of_narnia4482
    @ariel_of_narnia4482 Před rokem +554

    “They could t put together a 2-piece Lego set” has to be one of the more original insults I’ve ever heard. Thanks for that, Az! 😆

    • @gram440a
      @gram440a Před rokem +8

      couldn't build a one-piece-puzzle

    • @Mark-cd2wf
      @Mark-cd2wf Před rokem +4

      Hahahaha! Beat me to it!🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @shahman76
      @shahman76 Před rokem +9

      I’m going to be quoting this from now on. Thank you for this one.

    • @VolvoImpala
      @VolvoImpala Před rokem +8

      Yeah, that's a brilliant scorcher that's subtle enough it could be hiding in plain sight. So of course the writers for Discovery would not *ahem* discover it.

    • @pdzombie1906
      @pdzombie1906 Před rokem +8

      They would probaby go: What's a Lego? Is that nostalgic? Can we use it?

  • @thomasace2547
    @thomasace2547 Před rokem +426

    The fact that the STD show writers *STOLE* a large part the story of the first season from an Egyptian Developer’s point and click adventure space game is horrific !

    • @tygerstripes3752
      @tygerstripes3752 Před rokem +40

      Justice for Anas! The showrunners need to PAY HIM.

    • @thomasace2547
      @thomasace2547 Před rokem +39

      @@Bob98024 it really won’t take much searching, but it’s awful! And still no justice for the theft
      Complete plagiarism for the use of big blue space Tardigrades, using them to travel in space
      Also a bunch of the characters looks and personality are also stolen from the game!

    • @patrickstewart3446
      @patrickstewart3446 Před rokem +27

      What’s worse is that they then had the nerve to countersue him for copyright infringement.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Před rokem +10

      STD lol

    • @MRF1983
      @MRF1983 Před rokem +42

      If I remember the sequence of events correctly, in court first they claimed no one had ever heard of Anas' story, then they claimed his tartigrade drive was a common Sci Fi story trope that happens all the time, then they claimed HE stole their original premise from THEM.
      Whenever I tried to tell friends/ fellow star trek fans about Anas' situation, they'd look at me like I was saying the Earth is flat or 2+2= 1.
      One of them finally said, "Look, I know what you're telling me is probably true but stuff like that happens in Hollywood all the time and I just want to watch new Star Trek."
      ALL of my former star trek friends talk about how important Picard and Discovery are and complain about all the past shows and their lack of diversity and equity. I'm still friendly-ish with most of them, but we don't talk with each other remotely as much as we used to and we never bring up Star Trek.

  • @papalaz4444244
    @papalaz4444244 Před rokem +267

    Exactly this. All these prequels are ONLY designed to undercut and diminish the characters who already exist.
    Once Chibnall decided the Doctor wasn't really William Hartnell but was an immortal black girl we never heard of, the game was exposed.

    • @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
      @chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Před rokem +12

      @The Cheap Normie I wouldn't put it past Chinballs to have Jodie the Witch die and regenerate into that little girl. So she becomes the ancestor of them all

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 Před rokem +11

      People complain about continuity being erased repeatedly in Doctor who, but I honestly think the chibnall era needs to go.
      The same goes for the She-Hulk series being in the marvel Canon at all, and for the Star wars sequels as well.
      It's like what some mangaka do with the anime version when they continue the manga.
      The anime does its own thing but the main manga story stays the same.
      Or sometimes the mangaka just rewrites the series later.

    • @olehoncho
      @olehoncho Před rokem +1

      @@hariman7727 There is a realtively easy way to incorporate the Chibnal canon into the story going forward -
      The Tardis is the "Timeless Child" who took control of her life for one final moment to join the time vortex - and her "essence" became the power source to the Tardis.
      All the times The Doctor regenerated in the Tardis - he was borrowing her power of infinite regeneration - but also getting his memories scrambled with hers. This covers the Timeless Child continuity, and also explains how The Doctor goes over his 12 regeneration limit (and The Master as well, as Derek Jacobi regenerated in the Tardis and got a reset to his limit as well).
      That's how I'd do it.

    • @princeeverlove
      @princeeverlove Před rokem +3

      No REAL DR.WHO FAN recognizes Doctor Witless 13...It is NOT TRUE WHO... It's a total nightmare we will thankfully erase..Hell, I don't even recognize the "Action Figures" Legit😆

  • @CiarnaK
    @CiarnaK Před rokem +146

    "They couldn't put together a two piece Lego set" is definitely going in the Toolbox of Insults. Thank you, Mr AZ!

  • @silverscorpio24
    @silverscorpio24 Před rokem +65

    "They couldn't put together a two-piece Lego set!"
    -- Az, 2022

    • @Schnittertm1
      @Schnittertm1 Před rokem +3

      I believe that they couldn't even do it with a one-piece Lego set.

    • @Nightdare
      @Nightdare Před rokem +1

      @@Schnittertm1
      I'm sure they could
      ...but probably put it upside down

  • @ElDuderino999
    @ElDuderino999 Před rokem +290

    The only thing that comforts me is the fact that Gene Roddenberry and the majority of the TOS cast died peacefully before witnessing Discovery and Picard taking a big dump on their legacy and hard-earned merit.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +7

      William Shatner is still alive tho.

    • @swampfaye
      @swampfaye Před rokem +5

      This is my comfort of the Babylon 5 reboot gets made.

    • @ElDuderino999
      @ElDuderino999 Před rokem +16

      @@chasehedges6775 yeah, the last of the mohicans I guess - alongside George Takei and Walter Koenig who openly don’t give a damn about the franchise anymore.
      But at least Nimoy, Doohan, Kelley and Montalban (who portayed Khan) were spared from witnessing that abomination. Nichelle Nichols was not so lucky as she had to watch Zoe Saldana and Sonequa Martin-Green dismantle about anything she as an African-American worked so hard for ever since the sixties.

    • @ForceMaximus84
      @ForceMaximus84 Před rokem +4

      @@chasehedges6775 And he’s fighting for Roddenberry, basically.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +2

      @@ForceMaximus84 💯. Good for him. Fight the good fight!

  • @leonardodavi2695
    @leonardodavi2695 Před rokem +76

    These writers are the reason shampoo bottles come with instructions.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +5

      They had to stage and intervention, as they got stuck in an endless "rinse and repeat" loop.

    • @davidlacoste
      @davidlacoste Před rokem +3

      I'm stealing this insult.

    • @Mark-cd2wf
      @Mark-cd2wf Před rokem

      Couldn’t pour piss out of a boot with the directions written on the heel….😡

    • @Mark-cd2wf
      @Mark-cd2wf Před rokem +1

      @@davidlacoste me too!😁👍

    • @agentsmithmememe
      @agentsmithmememe Před rokem +2

      Or Electrical Goods saying "do not immerse in water"

  • @garym6315
    @garym6315 Před rokem +43

    What shock me most about that "a girl did it first" tactic is the morons on social media who say "ahhh, that explains why Carrie Fisher acted that way in the original film!" Umm no, in-universe retcons don't change the way that someone acted a scene decades ago, or what the original motivation was.

  • @347Jimmy
    @347Jimmy Před rokem +152

    This happened with Reva and "let them get away with a tracker" in Kenobi show
    Trying to make out like Vader's risky plan from ANH was all her idea

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +1

      Just soooo stupid.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +36

      Kenobi ruins the gap between ANH and ROTS.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Před rokem +10

      “Have you come here to destroy me?”

    • @brothertobias
      @brothertobias Před rokem +6

      Reva spared Luke Skywalker. You should be grateful that this strong, powerful and independant heroine saved your favorite character as a baby.

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy Před rokem +3

      @@brothertobias it was pretty nice of her to let the Original Trilogy happen, we should all be grateful lol

  • @queazy03
    @queazy03 Před rokem +52

    It's essentially stolen valor. Somebody goes to a pawn shop, sees a war medal being sold by a soldier who's desperate to pay bills, buys the medal but wears it as if they earned the medal. Well now Michael Burnham was Spock's secret sister, so everything about the legendary Spock, everything he's earned over the decades of stories, are now being worn like a medal by Michael Burnham. The new crop of fans will now say if you don't like Michael Burnham, then you must hate Spock too, because they've been dishonestly linked like that

    • @shuazi8803
      @shuazi8803 Před rokem

      I can't tell if Burnham being Spock's secret sister is made up or an actual thing in the show. Both sound true considering how bad this show looks

    • @marychocolatefairy
      @marychocolatefairy Před rokem +9

      @@shuazi8803 Oh yes, she is definitely his sister on the show. That, is, adopted sister. Her parents were killed and Sarek raised her with Spock. So the show likes giving her credit for pretty much everything about Spock. One of the showrunners has a quote about how she helped Spock become the person that fans love. lol.

    • @apollolux
      @apollolux Před rokem

      @@marychocolatefairy Boooooooooooooo! >:(

    • @shuazi8803
      @shuazi8803 Před rokem

      @@marychocolatefairy I fucking hate people. Holy Christ that is entirely awful in the most absolute way

    • @mizu7662
      @mizu7662 Před rokem +2

      @@marychocolatefairy Amazing how she is never once mentioned at all by him in his entire adult life despite being so foundational to the person he became. Or by his father on the numerous occasions he showed up.

  • @sinikoncar7838
    @sinikoncar7838 Před rokem +152

    Imagine a perfect symphony composed by a unique talent. It took the composer decades to complete this masterpiece. Every note in its right place. The audience is enchanted by the magical melodies.
    And now along come two morons. They have no idea of music theory, damaturgy or instumantalization. They can't even read sheet music. They once made a few tunes with "Magix Music Maker", but that's it. No one has heard of them or their tune "Mystery Box". But they know a guy who knows a guy who knows someone. And now they are to conduct the concert where this masterpiece is to be performed.
    It's supposed to be the biggest concert on the biggest stage the world has ever seen...
    Sounds like nonsense, but i think, something like this truely happened.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +8

      The most accurate thing that I have ever read.

    • @zionleach3001
      @zionleach3001 Před rokem +7

      Gotta love nepotism. Everything is given and not earned. While those with actual talent can't get hired.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks Před rokem +7

      I don't even recognize half the terminology you used so I'm perfectly qualified to make a mess of your music! The thing is, though, that I have respect for the creator of anything artistic and I would never want to interfere with the creator's vision. It is incredibly disrespectful. If I was actually put in charge of your music, I would be contacting you first thing to say "please help! I have no idea what I'm doing and I want to make sure you get the best possible support to produce your music the way it should be properly done!"

    • @arwenstrong2818
      @arwenstrong2818 Před rokem +3

      Just like Melkor.

    • @meatpuppet5036
      @meatpuppet5036 Před rokem +4

      We're in the lazy dance remix era, but for writers.

  • @M167A1
    @M167A1 Před rokem +22

    There is no past or future, only an endless present where the party is always right.

    • @trueneese8080
      @trueneese8080 Před rokem +3

      I thought you meant like ‘having a party’ at first 😂

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 Před rokem +1

      @@trueneese8080 ... ... Uh... You either need to be institutionalized or you just won the internet I'm not sure which...

    • @Noodles.Doodles
      @Noodles.Doodles Před rokem

      The way these creators and writers are always grinning and acting happy, it's almost like they really are part of some kind of never-ending party. They know they'll always have well-paid positions because they're in with the right crowd.
      Also, an apt quote.

  • @disprism
    @disprism Před rokem +63

    Doctor Who is definitely the one that suffered the most from this. 50 years of amazing lore and history completely destroyed and rewritten just to fit an ideological agenda.

  • @marychocolatefairy
    @marychocolatefairy Před rokem +13

    Argh, yes. EW had an interview with Kurtzman on how Spock's relationship with Michael "informed how he became the Spock we meet in TOS" and that "without that relationship he would have never been prepared for Kirk." Excuse me while I throw myself out the nearest airlock.

    • @bo7341
      @bo7341 Před rokem +2

      Aren't you glad that Discovery was there 50 years after TOS so that you would be ready for the most important in TOS which was obviously lacking because all of the spin-offs and expanded universe indicate that TOS never had a loyal audience.

  • @kameisland4749
    @kameisland4749 Před rokem +9

    "Rewriting The Past To Control The Future", you're onto something!

  • @BigBenn2014
    @BigBenn2014 Před rokem +99

    The ROP was so bad that I treated myself to an extended box set of LoTR.

  • @fourthdrawerdown6297
    @fourthdrawerdown6297 Před rokem +32

    Azs’ rant about the autopilot just cracked me up 😆

    • @74357175
      @74357175 Před rokem +1

      For those of us who haven't watched the prequel, what is the significance of the autopilot story?

  • @RJres
    @RJres Před rokem +123

    "The stars are strange" was one that bugged me. Originally said by Aragorn about Rhun and Harad, where the geographic distance would mean that the constellations are different in the night sky, and tossed into RoP to sound profound, but with no narrative context for it to have any meaning (especially considering the world was flat at the time). Grr... they blatantly copy and don't even understand what they're copying and these twits are supposed to being "improving Tolkien". They need to go sit in a corner and think about what they've done for a long time.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks Před rokem +13

      They're probably convinced they are geniuses. If they go sit in a corner, they'll just contemplate their own perfection to paraphrase Oscar Wilde. They seem to genuinely believe they are above criticism. Boy, wait until the sea tells them they are terrible at their jobs 🌊🐳

    • @RJres
      @RJres Před rokem +6

      @@dronesclubhighjinks Yeah... you're absolutely right about that. However, I didn't say we'd let 'em out of the corner, lol...

    • @Mark-cd2wf
      @Mark-cd2wf Před rokem +1

      Maybe if we make ‘em all wear duncecaps, that’ll do the trick….🤔

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks Před rokem +1

      @@RJres 🤣🤣

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks Před rokem +2

      @@Mark-cd2wf great idea! Sadly, no duncecap emoji exists 😱

  • @lucymiau5700
    @lucymiau5700 Před rokem +10

    The "We did it first" is a modern version of the "Who invented it?" in the times of the Cold War.

    • @mario27171
      @mario27171 Před rokem +1

      "The Russians put our camera made by our German scientists and your film made by your German scientists into their satellite made by their German scientists."
      Patrick McGoohan as David Jones in "Ice Station Zebra", good old Cold War movie.

    • @micklyons8858
      @micklyons8858 Před rokem

      Each nation developed technology independently from one another, it is a giant myth that one country stole technology from anothers.

  • @Zeerse_Chef
    @Zeerse_Chef Před rokem +19

    The new Amazon series Peripheral is apparently written by the 'creators' of West World, Michael Crichton created West World in 1973, and then you adapted his work into a TV series.

    • @forsakenquery
      @forsakenquery Před rokem +1

      THANK YOU someone said it

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 Před rokem +6

      I looked at the writing credits for Peripheral listed on IMDb and not a single one of them has any credit listed for "Westworld" - period. Sounds like one of those front-of-the-box claims you used to see at Blockbuster - "Wes Craven Presents..." or "Brought to you by the producers of...."
      It was probably some script supervisor or line producer that worked on the WW set for a season or two, so they get to make some BS claim about it being from the same people.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +4

      @@Raskolnikov70 Your comment makes me wonder if TV series are even made by people who know the source material they are adapting sometimes.

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 Před rokem +3

      @@chasehedges6775 IMDb is great for that. People use all kinds of weasel words in their marketing when talking about who's responsible for or connected to a film or show. But credits are a different matter, there are a lot of laws and union rules that determine who can claim them. No matter what the marketing dept. says about it, nobody who wrote Peripheral wrote a single line of script for Westworld.

  • @1984Phalanx
    @1984Phalanx Před rokem +13

    Tolkien spent so much of his life pouring his passion into these stories, of course some random writers generations later aren't going to measure up taking over.

    • @micklyons8858
      @micklyons8858 Před rokem +1

      Too many leftists today are just dossers who promote unprofessional attitudes in society.

  • @AntOn-nf9fi
    @AntOn-nf9fi Před rokem +50

    If any of us were to write the way these people do, say in an English writing exam, then we would probably get an F and thrown out for cheating.

    • @Schnittertm1
      @Schnittertm1 Před rokem +8

      I get the feeling that it doesn't matter what you write, but rather that you write about the correct politics to get an A. At least it does seem to me that way, at times.

  • @jonathankozenko
    @jonathankozenko Před rokem +11

    In hindsight, it's really refreshing how little they did this in Crisis Core! I mean, yes, a LOT of Cloud's memories were actually Zack's but that was already established in FF7 itself. If they had taken the STD route, they would've had Zack become the founder of Avalanche, convince Jessie, Biggs and/or Wedge to consider joining, would've had him weaken the defenses for the Mako reactors, he would've been the one to give Aerith her church, and they probably would've ended it with the "EPIC" twist that all of HIS memories (later given to Cloud) were those of....someone who don't need no man
    - On a separate note, Az's remark of "They couldn't even put together a two-piece Lego set!" might be my new favorite phrase!

  • @kentlindal5422
    @kentlindal5422 Před rokem +9

    Ah yes I remember how Winston Churchill was fond of quoting Hitler. So Gladriel paroting Sauron millenia after their last encounter makes perfect sense.

  • @brianwalsh1339
    @brianwalsh1339 Před rokem +104

    At this point, the Lord of the Rings game by Games workshop is more faithful to Tolkien’s vision than Rings of Power

  • @MatthiasPowerbomb
    @MatthiasPowerbomb Před rokem +1

    I love it when Az loses his shit. So gratifying to hear him completely go off on what we're all thinking.

  • @astrodb4487
    @astrodb4487 Před rokem +7

    The rape of canon and the lack of continuity is just, painful.

  • @mikkelnpetersen
    @mikkelnpetersen Před rokem +12

    "They couldn't even put together a two-piece LEGO set"
    Not even with instructions.

  • @YodaOnABender
    @YodaOnABender Před rokem +46

    Man, could you imagine if they hadn’t only contacted Jackson but asked him to direct? God, what could’ve been…

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +6

      Peter Jackson would have done a MUCH better job and told a better story

    • @ForceMaximus84
      @ForceMaximus84 Před rokem +7

      Jackson said they contacted him initially, but ghosted him from then on.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks Před rokem +9

      I'm glad he has nothing to do with this train wreck! He would've had to change absolutely everything. I think it's best to let this pitiful excuse of a show peter out on its own (see what I did there? 😂)

    • @JamesRDavenport
      @JamesRDavenport Před rokem +5

      Nah, if it's the same writing it would still be a turd salad. But, it would be a beautifully shot turd salad at least.

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p Před rokem +4

      He couldn't save Hobbit, although he tried his best and made it somewhat watchable.

  • @Tfaonc
    @Tfaonc Před rokem +9

    Going to have to use the Lego set insult sparingly so I don't erode it's effectiveness.

  • @meatpuppet5036
    @meatpuppet5036 Před rokem +10

    Also in Discovery: The AI they were supposed to be fleeing 900 years into the future from, was destroyed before they jumped away.

  • @davidcoleman757
    @davidcoleman757 Před rokem +15

    One of you guys needs to do a whopping, one-off essay on this topic, because it has happened to virtually every franchise.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks Před rokem +7

      Nerdrotic has a video with a title like "the top five murdered franchises".

    • @davidcoleman757
      @davidcoleman757 Před rokem +4

      @@dronesclubhighjinks Thanks pal, I'll check that out. This Orwellian retconning of other people's work really bugs me.

  • @eastern2western
    @eastern2western Před rokem +8

    Time traveling is the trick to reboot science fiction franchises.

  • @Soundwave142
    @Soundwave142 Před rokem +22

    From Red Alert.
    “He who control the past controls the future. He who controls the past conquers the future.”
    -Kane

    • @AscendingAdventures
      @AscendingAdventures Před rokem +7

      That’s from 1984.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem

      Accurate

    • @Soundwave142
      @Soundwave142 Před rokem

      @@AscendingAdventures First saw it in Red Alert.

    • @Raskolnikov70
      @Raskolnikov70 Před rokem +1

      @@AscendingAdventures And supposedly Orwell quoted someone else when he wrote it. The quote's been around for a while, because it's true.

  • @meatpuppet5036
    @meatpuppet5036 Před rokem +6

    Nick Fury naming The Avengers for Captain Marvel was one of the most obsequious examples of this.
    "Her call sign was Avenger!"
    Her call sign was Cheeseburger, they changed it to "Avenger" solely to make her the true first Avenger, because fuck Captain America etc.

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 Před rokem +2

      Of course, Cap was first, and then the original Ant-man and Wasp... They were superheroes before Captain Buzzkill in the MCU lore.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +2

      Captain Marvel was where things went downhill for the MCU.

  • @acarter4173
    @acarter4173 Před rokem +4

    I want to see Drinker, Disparu, AZ, Mauler, and Lil Platoon as the regular panel.

  • @thatpatrickguy3446
    @thatpatrickguy3446 Před rokem +2

    And, as always, AZ's aneurysm-fueled rant is spot on.
    And thanks to AZ as well for a more personal reason. I used to struggle over the spelling of "aneurysm" but now, thanks to my using that term so often referring to your commentary, I have its spelling down better than that of my own name.

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +12

    Using the past to control the future is a perfect summary of our society.

    • @christopher9152
      @christopher9152 Před rokem +1

      Orwell had a few memorable things to say about that in 1984.

  • @rickjohnson9558
    @rickjohnson9558 Před rokem +17

    Very Orwellian, Herr Drinker.

  • @rangerone8813
    @rangerone8813 Před rokem +6

    Every new series in the sci-fi and fantasy genres should have their casting auditions, scripts and dailies given a once-over by Az before being passed up the line. Seriously.

  • @Clint52279
    @Clint52279 Před rokem +13

    They ghosted Jackson because if he read their scripts he'd ask, "What in the Hell do you think you are doing?"
    What they put together was so bad Jackson would have to scrap everything and start over. I just don't see him, or anyone, "tweaking" their scripts to the point their watchable.
    I'm curious if someone realized what his involvement would mean. There is no way he'd let Tolkien be done dirty like they did. I'm sure they were terrified he would be brought in and then bring in his own writers. They didn't want to lose the show before they could make it "more palatable to modern audiences."

  • @shuazi8803
    @shuazi8803 Před rokem +2

    This channel is making me so glad that I haven't cared about most new shows in such a long time, though I'll admit that I watch dumb shit on Disney+ regularly

  • @rogernichols8150
    @rogernichols8150 Před rokem +9

    So enjoy your videos and books please keep them coming and here to help get your videos out to everyone to enjoy...cheers

  • @nmilutinovic
    @nmilutinovic Před rokem +1

    "Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past" - George Orwell, 1984

  • @incurableromantic4006
    @incurableromantic4006 Před rokem +4

    It feels like everything now is only made to try to mock, insult and break down far better things that came before them.

  • @johnnyjay6959
    @johnnyjay6959 Před rokem +1

    The sea is always right but u cannot quench ur thirst with seawater. Lmfao.

  • @paulware4701
    @paulware4701 Před rokem +1

    The bit about taking pre-existing dialogue and just dumping it in without really understanding what it means is one of the things that pissed me off about Batman vs Superman. It took familiar--iconic--lines from Dark Knight Returns and just randomly scattered them about.

  • @Bow-to-the-absurd
    @Bow-to-the-absurd Před rokem +21

    This is what happens when you hire people who hate fans, lore, nerds, etc

    • @balung
      @balung Před rokem

      Normies.

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Před rokem

      @@balung Nerds are hateful, sorry to say but its true. Revenge of the nerds era in 80's kind of made it obvious why people love Jocks no matter what era. They bring people together. Nerds are gatekeepers and elitist and miserable

  • @SamtheBravesFan
    @SamtheBravesFan Před rokem +2

    Just talking about the example: I'm not much of a Star Trek fan, but I like TOS and TNG and I know Deep Space Nine and Voyager are big deals. That being said, it's clear this property is coasting off the goodwill from the 90s. If these people can't get footholds with their "rewriting", they're going to have to find a way to get influence elsewhere.

  • @rmglover3191
    @rmglover3191 Před rokem +2

    AZ is definitely the voice speaking inside my head.

  • @grantbovee
    @grantbovee Před rokem

    thank you

  • @HerculesBallsInc
    @HerculesBallsInc Před rokem +15

    "You can't not-like the character I wrote because when I wrote the character I wrote that everyone likes her!"
    "You don't get to write the real world."
    "Hater! Bigot!"

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Před rokem

      Well, don't incels come off a bit hateful> You're not constructive criticism. You're just whining and moaning and gatekeeping. It's unappealing and makes you people look resentful. On top of that you have real life people that are making you look bad like Elliot Rogers. Rebrand.

    • @micklyons8858
      @micklyons8858 Před rokem

      @@suzygirl1843 Why are you bringing up incels? Most incels are just extreme leftists who have turned on feminism.

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Před rokem

      @@micklyons8858 Not really. Most incels are losers socially who gatekeep knowledge then act like the world is lesser due to problems they (nerds) created.

    • @micklyons8858
      @micklyons8858 Před rokem

      @@suzygirl1843 How the hell can one be a social loser? Being social isn't a competition where there are losers or winners. Most incels are just the products of their environment, they ended up that way because of their upbringing, they got messed up along the way due to no fault of their own, they didn't create their own problems, they are just incapable of knowing how to help themselves. "Incel theory" is extremely leftist and based on Marxist and socialist principles, while turning on feminism for emancipating women sexually.

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 Před rokem

      @@micklyons8858 The way nerds come across on social media, they have this "angry" anti-social behavior that could be fixed by talking to someone in person; they're lonely. I guess as a result to feeling rejected or secluded, they find an online community of similar people to be angry with on the same topics. These dudes are projecting a lot when trashing others. Normal people wouldn't care what other's tastes are... but somehow these nerds go into overdrive dictating to people they don't even know... Why? Too much time on their hands? They finally have one over with an online community? Is this revenge?

  • @ArgentWolf95
    @ArgentWolf95 Před rokem +2

    "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past."
    - Kane paraphrasing a famous line from 1984. (Command and Conquer.)
    also:
    Don't look so surprised, commander! And, don't look around for you EVA, it can't help you now. Well. What shall we talk about, hmm? Your powerful GDI forces have been emasculated, and you yourself are a killer of children! No, Of course it's not true, but the world only believes what the media tells them to believe. And I tell the media what to believe, it's really quite simple. Oh, here's you little pet. But now that I know where you live, commander, it's only a matter of time. Were I in your shoes, I would spend my last earthly hours... enjoying the world! Of course, if you wish, you can spend them fighting for a lost cause. But you know that you've lost.
    - Kane to the GDI Commander (Command and Conquer).
    Why does a cheesy B movie plot that I just enjoy anyway out of a Real Time Strategy game have bettter dialogue and things to say?

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 Před rokem +6

    So sad when your average fan has better idead than so called professional writers...

  • @greggibson33
    @greggibson33 Před rokem +7

    The creative future of Hollywood is in grave danger of becoming extinct.

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 Před rokem

    Az is so on point!

  • @Rastek19
    @Rastek19 Před rokem +4

    Enterprise’s later seasons were so good, it’s a shame it has to share the “tos prequel” tag with everything that’s come after it

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem

      Yeah, shame it got canned. Not that it was perfect or anything, but it was still good, and who the fuck cancels a show when the main story isn't even concluded yet?
      Well... Nowadays, it seems almost everyone. It's gotten to the point where I don't even bother with new shows until they're finished. And those that never finish but just stop can fuck right off. Been burned on too many great shows being canceled with the main plotline unresolved to take a risk on new stuff anymore.

  • @ajm0474
    @ajm0474 Před rokem

    When’s the full length video coming out. Teasing me like this on a Sunday is unwise.

  • @GustavoGplay
    @GustavoGplay Před 10 měsíci

    Omg I had completely forgotten about Mikey putting the suit on autopilot

  • @Nodux359
    @Nodux359 Před rokem

    Why did I find this excellent small video just now? Normally I follow the Drinker very closely.
    Nice to see other people also understand their modus operandi: "we did it first".
    ´member the cloaking generator? -> We did it first!
    ´member the Terran Empire? -> We did it first!
    ´member Spock´s friendship with Kirk? -> Our ORIGINAL character Mikey SpaceJesus Burnham did advice him to open up!
    The new writers are like little children demanding the last steak on the plate. And when you tell them they already had their share, they lick or spit on the last one and taint it for everyone else!

  • @ozlemdenli7763
    @ozlemdenli7763 Před rokem +1

    thanks

  • @iansmith1965
    @iansmith1965 Před rokem +1

    Regarding the subtitle of this video...the internet and other media is slowly getting spookily close to Winston Smith's job in "1984"-(George Orwell),re-writing information or a concept, to suit a new agenda.

  • @MrMacavity
    @MrMacavity Před rokem +4

    "something is rotten in Hollywood"

  • @justin1730
    @justin1730 Před rokem +2

    Reminds me of the end of a Simpsons episode where they say "Let us never speak of this again".

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +1

      Armin Tamzarian stole the identity of the REAL Seymour Skinner, and the court said they could never mention it again under penalty of torture.

  • @Paulafan5
    @Paulafan5 Před rokem +5

    Did Rings of Power mention Galadriel's daughter? Celebrian later gives birth to Arwen, so she's kinda a big deal NOT to have in the Rings of Power series, or even mentioned. Or did the writers not think things through when they broke canon.

    • @tekno647
      @tekno647 Před rokem +4

      That's assuming that tweedledum and tweedledummer ( who by the by couldn't sell any of the scripts they written in the past 10 years) even KNOW how to think.

    • @marychocolatefairy
      @marychocolatefairy Před rokem +1

      No, I'm pretty sure they didn't mention her. I don't know if they thought about the canon breaking issue...assuming if they even know about Celebrian in the first place, lol. it could be that if/when Celeborn resurfaces later on (if the show is able to last that long!) then Celebrian will be born. However, then there's the rather icky issue of Elrond being a full adult when his future wife is born. I bet they haven't thought about that!

    • @adde27
      @adde27 Před rokem +1

      @@marychocolatefairy I think that's a non-issue though, seeing as many couples in Tolkien's works have massive age differences (not just Man-Elf couples, but Elf-Elf as well: Elrond is ca 300 years older than his wife, and Aragorn's parents are almost 40 years apart).
      of course, that wouldn't be portrayed right in the show... seeing as the Elves there are just Men with silly clothes and cheap prop ears, the casual viewers would probably be grossed out.

  • @balung
    @balung Před rokem

    He who controls the past, controls the future. Orwell.

  • @derekfcc
    @derekfcc Před rokem +1

    AZ has his eyebrow game on 1000%

  • @MAGAMAN
    @MAGAMAN Před rokem +2

    Where is the rest of this? I want to watch!

  • @KasumiKenshirou
    @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +1

    The current copyright laws where copyrights effectively last forever effectively are part of the problem. All of these "franchises" and "IPs", where all of the creators have been dead for decades (e.g., Superman and Batman) should've been in the public domain long ago. If that were the case, people that actually liked these properties could make their own movies based on them and the studios would actually have to compete on quality instead of having a monopoly on everything.

  • @j.w.m.415
    @j.w.m.415 Před rokem

    I started watching RoP a few days ago. May or may not make it to the end. I am decidedly *not* a Tolkein aficionado, so I haven't found it as outrageous as some folks have. But damn Sam, these people can not write dialog to save their asses. My eyes glaze over pretty much whenever Galadriel talks, jarred back into the moment only when some glaring contradiction occurs that can't be ignored.

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 Před rokem

    This is why I stick to the old material (movies, video games, books, comics, and so on) and keep buying physical media.

  • @hugosmith6776
    @hugosmith6776 Před rokem +1

    box set of "All in the Family" will be worth the most amount of money in the future.

  • @RobinMcBeth
    @RobinMcBeth Před rokem +2

    You're forgetting the most important point: A girl did it first!

  • @Sacterheld
    @Sacterheld Před rokem +5

    It's also weird how the ROP Balrog looks exactly the same minus a slight difference in horns as the Peter Jackson Balrog, despite them saying it's not a prequel to the films yet they've clearly ripped off his Balrog and armoured Sauron.

    • @marychocolatefairy
      @marychocolatefairy Před rokem +3

      Yeah, and they said that they'd cast actors for Elrond and Galadriel that they thought looked like younger versions of the ones in PJ's films.

  • @jellybryce7742
    @jellybryce7742 Před rokem

    yea jack ruby is actually jack rubenstein. they like to do it so much.

  • @NitroModelsAndComics
    @NitroModelsAndComics Před rokem

    AZ slays the room....

  • @Qgal5kap123
    @Qgal5kap123 Před rokem

    The truth has been spoken!

  • @TheFarCobra
    @TheFarCobra Před rokem +1

    I have never watched the new Star Trek … but even I know that is Michael effing Burnham in the thumbnail.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem

      Heh, and here I was thinking it was Sasha, cosplaying before the shit hit the fan...

  • @wulfgarpl
    @wulfgarpl Před rokem +2

    oh thank god. it's not vertical short

  • @MrPokerMovies
    @MrPokerMovies Před rokem +3

    Who controls the past now controls the future
    Who controls the present now controls the past
    Who controls the past now controls the future
    Who controls the present now?

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem

      Who controls the future?

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem

      What would Brian Boitano do?

    • @trueneese8080
      @trueneese8080 Před rokem

      The world health organization? (Im jk, the real answer, as far as Earthly matters go most nations have sold out to the international bankers after WWII, who conspire with the Vatican to dominate the minds of men, using Christianity as a guise while presenting ‘the science’ and ‘the narrative’- the Jesuits are thier intelligence branch and have infiltrated most other int. agencies, they control major resources and the media and academia and industry, through committees and regulations etc. The Vatican is the spiritual authority behind the law, England are its bankers and the United States supplies the military power- though I suppose we are transitioning to a ‘new world order’ or whatever you want to call it)

  • @simmo1024
    @simmo1024 Před rokem +1

    Girls did it first! Hell, they were even Nazgurls before the kings of men did it.

  • @hakan7346
    @hakan7346 Před rokem

    Is there a full video?

  • @marekcelko580
    @marekcelko580 Před rokem

    Does anyone have link to the original video? Thanks

  • @chasehedges6775
    @chasehedges6775 Před rokem +15

    Revenge Of The Sith, in my mind, is one of the only good SW prequels that doesn't ruin the original trilogy.

    • @luchomscyfy
      @luchomscyfy Před rokem

      YES

    • @simmo1024
      @simmo1024 Před rokem +2

      There are only three Star Wars films & no TV series.

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 Před rokem +2

      @@simmo1024 the clone wars series, both of them, and the prequels are good in Star wars.
      They aren't perfect, but they are a coherent part of the story.
      The Star wars sequels and the Disney product are barely Star wars, at best.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem +2

      @@hariman7727 Well, to be honest, I thought Rogue One was pretty good. But that's the only one since George was stupid enough to sell the franchise to House of Mouse.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 Před rokem

      @@EvenTheDogAgrees Because the fandom hated what George was doing with the franchise and couldn't accept what he was doing and that he was trying to tell a story.
      The fandom is its own worst enemy and has nobody but itself to blame. Disney is also partly to blame as well because they have no idea what they are doing or EVEN thinking.
      I DID like Rogue One and it was very good.

  • @michaelhart2618
    @michaelhart2618 Před rokem

    Got to love an Az rant

  • @walkwithoutrhythm9858

    Where are these streamedd? I never see them until like 2weeks after the fact.

  • @mahmutakarsu
    @mahmutakarsu Před rokem

    Is there a link to the full stream?

  • @MrEmpireBuilder0000
    @MrEmpireBuilder0000 Před rokem

    I really feel bad for Trek fans. Their well loved series has been the canary in the coal mine for all the other movies that followed.

  • @Gribold
    @Gribold Před rokem +1

    Can't wait for the Highlander prequel

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem +1

      Wait, what? That's an actual thing?

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem

      ​@@EvenTheDogAgrees They already did this with Highlander II, where it shows the immortals on their home planet of Zeist that nobody bothered to mention in the original movie. The rest of Highlander II takes place in 2024, and there is a story element about a shield that was created to solve the hole in the ozone layer, but now that technological solution is causing problems of its own. The previous season of Star Trek Picard takes place in 2024 and involves a technological cure for an environmental problem gone wrong.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem

      @@KasumiKenshirou Yeah, I'm old enough to have seen that crap back in the day. Way to ruin a franchise. ;)
      [EDIT] Not that The Highlander ever had the potential to be a fanchise, unless in the form of prequels not featuring the actual Highlander, as his entire story is told in the movie. He slayed the Kurgan, chose mortality, thus ending the whole "immortals" thing. You can not create a believable sequel to that anyway.

  • @351cleavland
    @351cleavland Před rokem

    I love the "two piece lego" comment!

  • @AngryBootneck
    @AngryBootneck Před rokem +3

    Rodenberry at least has company from Tolkien… spinning in their respective graves!

  • @4203105
    @4203105 Před rokem +2

    I think they were supposed to fly to the future to take control with them. But then control was destroyed so there was no need anymore.
    Either way, it was a mess.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem +2

      Yup, I remember being pretty confused at the time about the whole thing. As in, I have literally no clue about the reasoning and the motivations of the characters anymore. Stuff just happens because umm... Ehh... Anyone?

  • @leesweets4110
    @leesweets4110 Před rokem

    Whats the fewest number of legos you know how to put together?

  • @LordBaktor
    @LordBaktor Před rokem +1

    Then there's the opposite thing, like the name of Han Solo originating from someone being a smartass because "everything people think is cool about a character has to have an origin in canon".

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Před rokem +2

      I'm pretty sure the writers were told to write the story of how Han Solo makes a name for himself, and took the idiom literally. That scene is also really similar to one in the Star Wars Holiday Special, where Art Carney's character communicates in code to Chewy's wife that Chewy and Han will be arriving soon, saying something about a little old lady making a rug entirely by HAND -- SOLO.

  • @urbanstarship
    @urbanstarship Před rokem

    How many studs on each Lego brick are we talking about here?

  • @2tone209
    @2tone209 Před rokem

    AY UP DRINKER

  • @johnedgar7956
    @johnedgar7956 Před rokem

    AZ IS 100% RIGHT!!

  • @fajarqolbinur
    @fajarqolbinur Před rokem

    just asking, what star wars movie is in the thumbnail? I dont remember because I watch it when I was small. the only part I remember is the fact that he comes to the past to meet his father, instead he become his father. it was so weird its been living rent free in my head

  • @kerravon4159
    @kerravon4159 Před rokem +5

    ROP got me interested in reading Tolkien's actual books, so I guess at least some good came out of the whole trainwreck.

    • @EvenTheDogAgrees
      @EvenTheDogAgrees Před rokem

      Then you'll be happy to know Amazon is now apparently tackling The Peripheral, which I can only assume to be their butchered version of the William Gibson book. Not sure how they're gonna milk that into an entire series, as the book is rather short.

  • @christianefiorito3204

    What I surprisingly like lately about star trek, is the animated series star trek lower deck. It made me laugh so hard although its very silly.