How Much Speed Can You Buy?

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • How much bang, or speed in this case, can you get for your buck? Ollie takes Phil, GCN's very own average man, to test out three bikes of varying prices. Phil completes a 10km time trial on each bike, to see how much faster expensive superbikes are compared to an entry-level, budget road bike.
    00:00 Intro
    00:39 Entry-level road bike
    01:35 Entry-level bike test
    03:00 Superbike introduction
    04:00 Superbike test
    05:24 TT bike
    06:50 TT trial bike test
    09:00 The time trial results
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Komentáře • 789

  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +67

    🤔 What do you think of the results?
    Let us know in the comments 👇

    • @arthurkirk2100
      @arthurkirk2100 Před 4 měsíci +15

      Good but I wonder what the results would have looked like if each ride was done on a different day so he was fresh for each 10K go.

    • @musclelessfitness2045
      @musclelessfitness2045 Před 4 měsíci +10

      @@arthurkirk2100 He was producing 200 watts each time, so he wasn't tired before his 3 laps.

    • @TheMachoGabacho
      @TheMachoGabacho Před 4 měsíci +8

      I think I’ll stick with my aluminium endurance bike and save myself $10k. That money will better serve me if I invest it towards retirement, because no matter how much a bike costs, you can’t outride your bills!

    • @musclelessfitness2045
      @musclelessfitness2045 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@TheMachoGabacho I agree ... 10k on a depreciating asset is a bad decision, unless you have a lot of money.

    • @triathlonsteve9675
      @triathlonsteve9675 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Great vid and shows money can buy a little, but there is limits, protect Phil / boardman great upgrade idea

  • @matthewnormand2041
    @matthewnormand2041 Před 4 měsíci +1013

    Make the Boardman faster than the Orbea on the cheap? That's a bold plan. I'd like to see it in action.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +61

      🤔

    • @pierremaggi8661
      @pierremaggi8661 Před 4 měsíci +77

      Changing the tyres will get you 90% of the time savings already, as already tested, by GCN too

    • @blabla5604
      @blabla5604 Před 4 měsíci +24

      Also consider that Phil was wearing a long sleeve jersey on the Boardman and a short sleeve more aero one on the Orbea. That's probably half the speed difference already. If you have him wear an aero helmet, a short aero sleeve jersey (or aero bra underneath) and aero socks he's probably gonna get there without spending a single pound on the bike.

    • @Vixen1525
      @Vixen1525 Před 4 měsíci +8

      And not putting a dura ace on from the start...

    • @psychojock
      @psychojock Před 4 měsíci +1

      Definitely a great idea.

  • @Kim_Miller
    @Kim_Miller Před 4 měsíci +349

    Nice one, Phil. You've convinced me that I'll be better off spending my $15,000 on beer instead of a new bike. 😀

    • @ybh9776
      @ybh9776 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Best answer ever

    • @raysiddiqi8
      @raysiddiqi8 Před 3 měsíci +1

      faster recovery w/ carbs and electrolytes!

    • @samuelyeung03
      @samuelyeung03 Před 3 měsíci

      beer will hurt your health
      cycling will only hurt your wallet

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You've got £15,000 to spend on piss water? Now that is a problem.

    • @raysiddiqi8
      @raysiddiqi8 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@samuelyeung03 not in moderation, also not as much as 50% of food on store shelves, calm down

  • @super8hell
    @super8hell Před 4 měsíci +372

    Fair play to Phil, first time on the TT bike with such a narrow elbow pads placement it will be sketchy no matter what. TT bike is a big compromise for the speed.

    • @phillipbailey7080
      @phillipbailey7080 Před 4 měsíci +80

      Thanks!! It was an experience 😂

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +23

      ​@@phillipbailey7080hour record next?

    • @phillipbailey7080
      @phillipbailey7080 Před 4 měsíci +6

      😂

    • @kamehito
      @kamehito Před 4 měsíci +14

      ​@@phillipbailey7080what were you more afraid of? Injuring yourself or trashing a 15k TT bike? 😂

    • @JackMott
      @JackMott Před 4 měsíci +1

      my first ride in aerobars felt totally unusable. couple years later and I loved it, could tear up high speed corners and felt comfortable and wonderful. just takes time and tweaking.

  • @mildpandemic3944
    @mildpandemic3944 Před 4 měsíci +254

    Phil, great job getting onto the aero bars on camera, for the first time ever, and while on a public road!

    • @phillipbailey7080
      @phillipbailey7080 Před 4 měsíci +31

      Cheers!! Fun and terrifying at the same time

    • @tbrowniscool
      @tbrowniscool Před 4 měsíci

      100% that looks so sketchy, Phil did so well. Be more like Phil

  • @Disrupterds
    @Disrupterds Před 4 měsíci +106

    "I've literally had heavier toilet visits than this one." --Phil 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @romeandcurry6915
    @romeandcurry6915 Před 4 měsíci +127

    Great video - basically you can buy quite a bit of speed. Kudos to Phil - it’s a great benchmark to have a genuine normal cyclist doing these tests as it shows what is applicable to the typical weekend cyclist.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +5

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. What else would you like to see us make?

    • @romeandcurry6915
      @romeandcurry6915 Před 4 měsíci +13

      I think adding in a £3k bike - like something from the Ribble range with good tyres with a normal cyclist would be interesting. Also the impact of tyre size with a more “full weight” cyclist would be a good comparison. The hypothesis being heavier riders benefit more from wider tyres.

    • @davidbloor2133
      @davidbloor2133 Před 4 měsíci

      @@romeandcurry6915 I can help you there. I am your average cyclist, tipping the scales at over 100kg who now has that £3k Ribble bike.
      I went from a Triban RC120 to a Ribble R872 105 Di2, six times the price.
      Is the bike six times better or faster no, is it smoother and more refined, yes Do I enjoy cycling 6 times more, no, it is just a nicer expeience now.
      Switching from the stock tyres on the Triban to Continetal GP5000's with latex inner tubes changed the ride quality and maybe saved a few seconds. I also run them on my Ribble too a cost effective uprage.
      We need more of these videos aimed at people like me, you don't need a £3000 bike let alone a £10,000 bike to enjoy cycling, you also don't need to be the weight of Tour De France rider to enjoy getting out on a bike.
      Cycling needs to embrace more people ike "us" and shift away from a sport that promotes an unhealthy body image and ridiculous prices only attainable by a tiny percentage of people in take part inthe sport.
      GCN there is a huge audience for this typre of content, more please!

    • @better.better
      @better.better Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'd like to see a tire width effect video, generally, all the way up to 4.8 fat bike... or whatever the largest is for a road style tread. the tread is the difficult part to work around. the closest I've found is a 26 × 4 inch marketed to ebikes on Amazon by a huge number of sellers that all seem to be selling that same tire with their own branding (based on the photo) but it's really functionally closer to a gravel tire with regards to rolling resistance, as tires go they're cheaper and heavier with poor sidewall support so I had to write it at exactly the recommended pressure. but even so, significantly less rolling resistance than the nobbies for road riding. like if you take a fat bike fork and put it on that time trial bike, with that 4 inch tire (or a bigger, slicker, one if you can find it) how does it affect rolling resistance and aerodynamics?

    • @Silidons91
      @Silidons91 Před 4 měsíci

      How can you know? There is no power data.

  • @mradelphi02
    @mradelphi02 Před 4 měsíci +46

    I was sceptical coming into this video, but it was fantastic.
    I realized that I have the EXACT bike I need for my current level

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      Awesome! Glad we could help 🙌 what bike have you got?

  • @scott2gregory
    @scott2gregory Před 4 měsíci +22

    I for one would like to see more content about regular bikes for regular people. I'm 73 years old and have over 37,000 miles on my main bike that I bought in 2005 (I have 3 bikes, 2 being folding bikes for specific purposes). It would be nice to see what bikes would be great bikes for just plain, simple fun rides which are the rides I like the best. Ones that get you out there getting space and enjoying your time outdoors.

    • @ElSantoLuchador
      @ElSantoLuchador Před 4 měsíci +1

      As a former semi-pro rider if I were you I wouldn't worry too much about top-end bikes. Not for the type of riding you want to do. There are a million variables but on a surface reading I would recommend a decent quality gravel bike or what we used to call a cyclocross bike. You're going to want to try before you buy because ergonomics will absolutely matter. What works for someone else in your situation might not translate.

  • @NitroniumGaming
    @NitroniumGaming Před 4 měsíci +106

    Maybe Phil is a beginner, but 200 watts for an hour total without even being out of breath is no average man.

    • @Elhesh
      @Elhesh Před 4 měsíci +5

      Actually it’s bang on average according to statistics

    • @NitroniumGaming
      @NitroniumGaming Před 4 měsíci +22

      @@Elhesh maybe for cyclists or people with power meters, but it definitely takes effort to work up to 200 watts

    • @ElSantoLuchador
      @ElSantoLuchador Před 4 měsíci +8

      An averagely good time trialist can crank out 250 watts an hour no problem. Pro riders average about 6 watts per kilogram, and amateur riders average about 3 watts per kg. For recreational riders it goes down to about 2 watts per kg. Which is to say 200 watts is pretty good for a beginner.

    • @NitroniumGaming
      @NitroniumGaming Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@ElSantoLuchador I agree with this. Also Andrew Feather with 7 w/kg and an "amateur" title

    • @malikau917
      @malikau917 Před měsícem

      @@NitroniumGamingagree with you like a Data Scientist. If the one has a powemeter he’s statistically not an average at all!

  • @dundeedideley1773
    @dundeedideley1773 Před 4 měsíci +49

    That Boardman was a great deal!

    • @MTBScotland
      @MTBScotland Před 4 měsíci +4

      Better spec bike from Decathlon

    • @a1white
      @a1white Před 4 měsíci +1

      Main issue seems to be quality control. Quite a few videos on CZcams highlighting problems with them. Personally, id be wary

    • @alexandreboyenval3140
      @alexandreboyenval3140 Před 4 měsíci

      @@MTBScotlandto be fair the décathlon Road bikes are more expensive.

  • @TimR123
    @TimR123 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Phil is a great “average man”. Clearly experiencing something new but not the fool 😏. 👍🏻for Phil. Now to play with the Boardman

  • @michealofloinn2539
    @michealofloinn2539 Před 4 měsíci +27

    Great idea to upgrade the Boardman. Looking forward to that one. 🇮🇪

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      Get those notifications on and you won't miss it 🔔

  • @stevenm8503
    @stevenm8503 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Great video, and compliments to the ‘average man’ maintaining 200W over 3x 20min segments while talking conversationally!

  • @two-eyedRoy
    @two-eyedRoy Před 4 měsíci +30

    Would love to see the Boardy up specc-ed three ways:
    a) On the cheap. Penny pinching, most bang for buck, COMMON(!!) 2nd hand specials.
    2) Off the shelf. but still sane purchases.
    iii) All out lunacy. Full CZcamsr connections abuse.

    • @dereknalley
      @dereknalley Před 4 měsíci

      We also need to throw in a closed course for Phil's sake. Maybe get his some tri-bar coaching time.

  • @natillano
    @natillano Před 2 měsíci +1

    7:31 that pause. I felt anxious it's quite intimidating shifting from aerobars to the hoods. Quite interesting 🎉

  • @Aragorn.Strider
    @Aragorn.Strider Před 4 měsíci +12

    Good to have Phil back!

  • @stevemckay4466
    @stevemckay4466 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Absolute belter of a video this..Very relatable and major kudos to Phil for doing pretty much 30km in an hour on bikes he's never ridden. "I've had heavier toilet visits than this bike" is a T-Shirt in the making surely..More Phil.! More Phil!..

  • @steezymtb5876
    @steezymtb5876 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Oh my goodness, my heart literally skipped two beats when he came off the aero bars. That was wild.

    • @casualguy393
      @casualguy393 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Same here. It brought back memories of my first time using them, and I even thought he might swerve into the camera car. Mad trust to let a beginner on that bike hahaha.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +2

      How do you think Phil felt? 😂

    • @steezymtb5876
      @steezymtb5876 Před 4 měsíci

      @@gcntech let's just say, I can see why there wasn't any more footage of him riding on the aerobars 🤣 Fair play though, he did an amazing job holding on.

  • @rw9461
    @rw9461 Před 4 měsíci +4

    One of the better videos lately 😂 phil is an absolute gem

  • @matt_acton-varian
    @matt_acton-varian Před 4 měsíci +5

    Chapeau to Phil for taking part in this test. It's really interesting to see what difference equipment choice can make, but it really needed comparing to what being fitter can do.
    And Phil's experience on the ski bars are on point. It takes practice to get in and out, and get used to riding whilst using them. I run them on an aero road bike for time trials so it's not as twitchy, and it serves as a normal summer bike when not racing.
    And as a summer bike it is nice to har but I have the previous iteration Boardman alloy bike set up for the winter and it is a brilliant bike for the money. It's what I started riding with and is still great fun to ride after 15,000 miles

  • @JIMMYHIBBS1
    @JIMMYHIBBS1 Před 4 měsíci +47

    Averaging 30km and 200 watts and chatting - he’s not too shabby …. Is he the same ‘beginner’ runner on Global Triathlon Network that was doing 24 minute 5kms ?? …. He looks beginner - but he’s pumping an engine in there

    • @grvl307
      @grvl307 Před 4 měsíci +11

      He seems pretty tall, that helps with power :) but yeah, 200 watts is not "beginner" power for most people

    • @colecoleman1499
      @colecoleman1499 Před 4 měsíci +2

      No way he did 24 mins for 5k. Gtn had a begginner lady who did such times

    • @JIMMYHIBBS1
      @JIMMYHIBBS1 Před 4 měsíci

      @@colecoleman1499 czcams.com/video/yJeySMROWfQ/video.htmlfeature=shared

    • @JIMMYHIBBS1
      @JIMMYHIBBS1 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@colecoleman1499 No - you are correct - he did a 22:30 (apparently)

    • @jkmacie
      @jkmacie Před 4 měsíci +1

      Wish I could do 200 watts full stop!

  • @Kimberlietriracer25
    @Kimberlietriracer25 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Awesome job phil! You killed it! Definately upgrade the entry level bike

  • @tonyBobb5209
    @tonyBobb5209 Před 4 měsíci +16

    Well done, Phil. It is great to see GCN listening to the viewers, focusing on cheaper alternatives as many of us can not afford a £1,000 or even £2,000 bike due to loss of employment/cost of living. Great work GCN. I personally thank you.

    • @RazvanBuescu
      @RazvanBuescu Před 4 měsíci +2

      Well said 👏

    • @escostar6331
      @escostar6331 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Get on your bike - Norman Tebbit

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +4

      Thanks Tony! We're always open to ideas - we make content for you guys, so always want to make videos you'll love! Watch this space for more entry level content 🙌

    • @jamble7k
      @jamble7k Před 4 měsíci +1

      there will be huge diminishing returns on the amount spent, reckon you can get 99% of the performance for half the cost on the expensive bikes

  • @chloepaton5115
    @chloepaton5115 Před 4 měsíci +30

    Loved this, more Phil on GCN! 🙌🏼

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +3

      You're wish is our command! 👉czcams.com/video/Bbb0dfb_OcI/video.html

  • @tristamrossin7289
    @tristamrossin7289 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Would love to see the upgrade... And well done Phil, what a legend!

  • @user-nt8dy4xw9r
    @user-nt8dy4xw9r Před 4 měsíci

    What an effort and triumph Phil! I cannot imagine myself riding that TT bike, it looks so scary. Nice job man.

  • @Harley_Gauge
    @Harley_Gauge Před 4 měsíci

    Deffo want to see the upgrade Boardman vid. I bought my first road bike from previous hybrid and it was the Boardman SLR carbon. Best buy of kit and fit the price and features, a bargain. Also well played for having a go on the bars. Balls of steel that man

  • @jasonchrisgreen
    @jasonchrisgreen Před 4 měsíci

    Loved it, yes do the upgrades and try again!

  • @marcusingram522
    @marcusingram522 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Well done Phil, great video.

  • @DrGKickAss
    @DrGKickAss Před 4 měsíci

    #feelgood, informative and entertaining . well done Ollie, Philip and crew

  • @TrophyPoppin
    @TrophyPoppin Před 4 měsíci +1

    Phil is amazing! Keep it up!

  • @needmoregears8521
    @needmoregears8521 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video. You could have been describing me in terms of bike purchases. Giant OCR with Sora, then TCR with 105, and finally a carbon Cannondale Synapse also with 105. I wouldn’t get the value of something more expensive but its nice to hire one every now and again.
    Phil’s a good sport. Please do the upgrade video.

  • @84imreplica
    @84imreplica Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video. I'm definitely looking forward to more videos on upgrading the Boardman.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      We can't wait to get spannering

  • @willmo1725
    @willmo1725 Před 4 měsíci

    Good video I like. Look forward to seeing the next.

  • @doggylover1958
    @doggylover1958 Před 4 měsíci

    That’s amazing! Just shows you what can be done with entry level stuff. I’d love to see what a difference the upgrades make and more to the point, how much it would cost to do it. Well done, really interesting test.

  • @nerdexproject
    @nerdexproject Před 4 měsíci +6

    LOVED this video! And Phil is awesome! :D
    Yes, please upgrade the Boardman to the max!!😁

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      We love Phil! 🙌 We'll see what we can do - where would you start?

  • @CappySeventyOne
    @CappySeventyOne Před 3 měsíci

    Great video, Phil. Interesting to see the improvement in the orbea v the cost. Food for thought when I upgrade from my entry level Triban 520

  • @stephaniebryant6946
    @stephaniebryant6946 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video. Well done, Phil. Would love to see an upgrade on the boardman 😊

  • @kevinbays3408
    @kevinbays3408 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video, definitely go for a follow up with the upgraded Bordman.

  • @stujm8376
    @stujm8376 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm more of it's the rider that makes the bike mentality. I think this was a great video for us with a limited budget I Would love to see Phil ride the updated Boardman. Keep the great vids coming guys.

  • @TheAttyjace
    @TheAttyjace Před 4 měsíci +1

    I like the boardman. Looking forward to the video where you will mod it.

  • @madmick9205
    @madmick9205 Před 4 měsíci

    Well done Phil.
    An upgrade vid would be great to see:)

  • @jacquestardif5848
    @jacquestardif5848 Před 4 měsíci

    Good on Phil for riding. Great video. Looking for ward to see how you improve the entry level bike, for i too have an entry level, Cannondale Synapse Sora.

  • @colinmee1822
    @colinmee1822 Před 4 měsíci

    Yup. I’ve got one of those boardmans. Love to see it upgraded.

  • @derspen
    @derspen Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you so much for the insight. It is an eye opener.

  • @123moof
    @123moof Před 4 měsíci +2

    Fun video. A general criticism of GCN's methodology is that getting used to a new bike setup is really important to really performing with it. Phil should not have been expected to perform well off the bat with a new fit (aggressive position on the Orbea), or with a TT position with zero prior practice. Similar to the flat pedal video you guys did a while back and had to do a follow-up on.

  • @Peter94X
    @Peter94X Před 20 dny +1

    Great video, guys! Good job, Phil! 👍
    Please keep doing this kind of comparison videos. Take several beginner-average riders and test them on entry-level $1.000 bikes, then on $3.000 - $4.000 advanced bikes and then on the top-tier $10.000 bikes. To actually see what difference can a different bike do to an average rider 😉

  • @Mas421
    @Mas421 Před 4 měsíci +1

    More Phil please ! 👍👍👍👍

  • @leissp1
    @leissp1 Před 4 měsíci +2

    More power to you Phil we'll done. True everyman test.

  • @01FozzyS
    @01FozzyS Před 4 měsíci

    Well done, Phil! Would definitely want to see that upgrade,Ollie.

  • @liviucseki4125
    @liviucseki4125 Před 4 měsíci

    Good job Phil! I'd be very interested in a video regarding the opgrading of the Boardman

  • @triathlonsteve9675
    @triathlonsteve9675 Před 4 měsíci

    Great vid aero Oly, always love you science approach to bikes, well done Phil, solid numbers and gives perspective, you need to train to get the best out of TT / Tri bike position, reminds me how far I have come to hold the position for half iron man racing 😁

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      What are your training tips for someone looking to put some time into the TT bike?

  • @HeibesHealth
    @HeibesHealth Před 4 měsíci +2

    Seriously great job, Phil! Just switching between bikes you’re not familiar with is nerve-wracking-never mind all the cameras on you while you’re riding them. LoL.

  • @Elhesh
    @Elhesh Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’m an engineering I’ve used plenty of wind tunnels, maths and data modeling and quite simply it works like this - if you’re over weight - no amount of Lycra, helmets of fancy sunglasses will help you. You need to be doing about 45-50km or above for this stuff to come into effect (which probably isn’t something most of you can attain along flats or up hills) the extra resistance you have created by your girth is the problem and basically all you have done is make yourself look foolish by wearing tight clothes on a body that is anything but tight. 2 - unless you’re actually competitive at a high level having a super stiff and responsive bike is going to put extra pressure and fatigue on your body so the the extra power you might be delivering will be negated. Find a comfortable bike, that’s forgiving and you’ll suddenly find yourself a lot better off. You might not like reading this. But that’s physics and mechanical principles at play. You wanna be faster, training right, eat right and only worry about your gear once you are actually at a level where you can improve yourself physically. Otherwise all your doing is keeping up with the jones’. Enjoy.

  • @joneaton3366
    @joneaton3366 Před 4 měsíci

    Yes that next video you mentioned at the end is the 1 I've been waiting for.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      You might not have to wait too much longer 😎

  • @migueljorgefurtado
    @migueljorgefurtado Před 4 měsíci +1

    Brave man, going for the TT bars! 👏💪

  • @ybh9776
    @ybh9776 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video...kudos to Phil

  • @Lyclah
    @Lyclah Před 4 měsíci

    Great job Phil. Thanks man for doing this for science 🎉

  • @jed1mstr
    @jed1mstr Před 4 měsíci +2

    Definitely want to see the followup making the Boardman faster with upgrades.

  • @dtsybulskyi
    @dtsybulskyi Před 4 měsíci +8

    Thanks for the great video and experiment! So, basically, for additional 9.5k pounds you get 10% increase in efficiency/speed. Which is great if you're competitive, but really shows that for begginers and even many amateurs/weekend-warriors it doesn't make much sense to spend absurd amount of money of somewhat faster bikes. All that matters is that you buy a bike nice enough that you want to ride it and can afford, and enjoy it.
    And great job, Phil! It's great a see a more representative person trying the tech out!

    • @nluisa
      @nluisa Před 4 měsíci

      Totally. When I see fellow riders smashing it on the bike it's not because of what they ride, its their engine! I know folks riding on older, 'slower' bikes, who always overtake everyone else riding the latest bling. One caveat though, they've been training well for years and still do.
      The issue is a top end bike is much better at showing off and getting head turns, than the work needed to turn on the pedals.

    • @Penalist
      @Penalist Před 4 měsíci

      Admittedly, there are far more ‘extras’ than merely the extra speed.

    • @nluisa
      @nluisa Před 4 měsíci

      @@Penalist Yes, brakes/tire clearance being one of those.

    • @wildsurfer12
      @wildsurfer12 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Not to mention having a bike you can afford to maintain…

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +1

      We agree! The most important thing is just loving your bike, that will make you ride better 🙌 Marginal gains are super interesting and we love to get nerdy over them but for most people your rides should be measured by smiles not miles 👌

  • @luisakinaga
    @luisakinaga Před 4 měsíci +2

    Phil represents me, please do more videos like this!

    • @SteveNinetyski
      @SteveNinetyski Před 4 měsíci

      If he represents you..you should spend more time cycling and less time watching overweight people cycle so you can feel "represented"😅

  • @astro61362
    @astro61362 Před 4 měsíci

    This was awesome! More Phil on the channel please!!!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      Is this one of your fake accounts, Phil? 😉

  • @joostkonijn3255
    @joostkonijn3255 Před 4 měsíci

    Go gor it guys, bike upgrades are always interesting

  • @miche_amico
    @miche_amico Před 4 měsíci

    I'd like to see a video where you upgrade the Boardman. Good job on the tri bars Phil. I imagine it's quite tricky when you first start using them.

  • @nicolatout1595
    @nicolatout1595 Před 4 měsíci +3

    enjoyed this..looking forward to seeing Phil on the upgrade.

  • @donaldrieger381
    @donaldrieger381 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Would love to see the boardman upgraded.
    I would also like to see the Eurobike have it's wear parts upgraded with moderate cost parts to see what differences those make.

  • @anandcherian.585
    @anandcherian.585 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Thumps up for phil

  • @MrVizzle
    @MrVizzle Před 4 měsíci

    Yes that's the video I want to see. Thank you.

  • @djdelprado
    @djdelprado Před 4 měsíci

    mann olleeeee is so funny. well played for his humor! more powers to you guys!!!

  • @andrewmoss6104
    @andrewmoss6104 Před 4 měsíci

    Best film for a good while , loved it and look forward to the boardman follow ups , amazing value bike

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Have you got your notifications on? You won't miss it then 😉

  • @petedannatt
    @petedannatt Před 4 měsíci +1

    Kudos to Phil. How about another go when Phil has had time to familiarise himself with the TT bike. Would be good to see what's possible with practice.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +1

      we'd love to get him dialled in and see what he can do!

  • @songofyesterday
    @songofyesterday Před 4 měsíci

    Love the idea of this video. About time!

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      thanks, what would you like us to do next?

  • @alexmmin
    @alexmmin Před 4 měsíci +7

    Well yes. Pls do speed/comfort per money upgrade video.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      Nerdy deep dive... we don't mind if we do 😉

  • @SJPMs
    @SJPMs Před 4 měsíci

    Nice one Phil. I've always wanted to have a go on a TT but now I'm not so sure!
    Would love to see what Ollie has planned for the Boardman.

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video, very interesting comparison’s there regarding there the type of rider using them 👏🏻👏🏻😍!! Also be cool to see a slightly better rider like Ollie on all 3 of them too 🤔😜 also would like to see bog standard bike upgraded 👍🏻

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Look on the bright side. When your neck starts hurting on the TT bike. It makes you forget about the pain in your legs.

  • @akmzd6938
    @akmzd6938 Před měsícem

    Phil is a great sport - and I reckon a person that many of us viewers can relate to.
    An interesting video well executed. Cheers!

  • @Doniyorbek_Turgunov
    @Doniyorbek_Turgunov Před 4 měsíci

    Phil is so confident in front of camera (and on aerobars as well), looks like he's a good actor or presenter :)

  • @Neomalthusiano
    @Neomalthusiano Před 4 měsíci +2

    I really would like to see a second video with a comparison where a entry level mtb and a high level mtb would also be compared to the entry level road bike at the same 10 km route being riden by the same begginer (this guy is a powerhouse by the way).

  • @cruachan1191
    @cruachan1191 Před 4 měsíci

    Good to see GCN are taking on board the comments about featuring more budget bikes, it'll be interesting to see how much money in terms of upgrades it takes to get the Boardman on par with the Orbea. Switching to latex inners or going tubeless would be one option, don't know if that Boardman is tubeless ready though.

  • @TnFruit
    @TnFruit Před 4 měsíci

    Nice Vid 😊

  • @jsim9042
    @jsim9042 Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent experiment! Upgrade will be interesting.

  • @pavelprchal7505
    @pavelprchal7505 Před 4 měsíci

    Phil, you are legend, first time on tt bars and you just sent it - love it!! I want to see if upgraded Boardman can do better then stock one, of course it can, but how much for reasonable price it is what I am looking for :)

  • @a1white
    @a1white Před 4 měsíci

    I like this. Phil is like most of us. A Time trial bike would terrify me too! 200w average too is decent too

  • @MarcusBrito
    @MarcusBrito Před 4 měsíci +3

    The Boardman is beautiful! My favorite of the three for the looks alone.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      That's super interesting! What do you love about it?

  • @richardneil5202
    @richardneil5202 Před 4 měsíci

    Kudos Phil and GCN. Great idea to upgrade the Boardman (maybe even just the tyres/tubes) and rerun the test. Also, how about another test, same setup but this time with an experienced cyclist (Olli?). This would probably more accurately answer the "how much speed can you buy" question.

  • @Geshmaal
    @Geshmaal Před 4 měsíci +2

    Clearly I am a below-average man, how Phil reacted to trying the aero bars on the TT bike is how I feel riding in the drops on a road bike...

  • @matthewward5892
    @matthewward5892 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ace Phill . I'd love to see a boardman upgrade

  • @_carsonjones
    @_carsonjones Před 3 měsíci

    Phil is a champ. Great to see average riders on the channel!

  • @StuFromOz99
    @StuFromOz99 Před 4 měsíci

    That was great !! (And, yeah, I did think that riding a TT bike does take getting used to)

  • @mrflaxtv81
    @mrflaxtv81 Před 4 měsíci +2

    More Phil! What a legend! I think Alex might have a Dura Ace Chainset lying around you can have for the Boardman! 😅

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci +2

      A Dura-Ace chainset you say? Worth, approx £100 by any chance?

    • @mrflaxtv81
      @mrflaxtv81 Před 4 měsíci

      @@gcntech That's the badger! Would defo love to see the Boardman get faster for minimal budget and Phil test it. Phil is the presenter equivalent of 105. He's the ordinary rider of the people! 🔥

  • @rudy102r2
    @rudy102r2 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Well done to Phil 💪
    For me as much as I love cycling all cycling industry is a scam. Bicycle cost 10k and you can get great motorcycle with aluminium frame , adjustable suspension , cornering abs , traction control , riding modes, tft display, quickshiter , forged wheels etc. for that kind of money.
    There is so many components and development done that everything will work together as a package.
    I know there is research done with bicycles but how the name of god bicycle made from carbon can cost 10k. I can imagine till people will pay that price they will cost that much.

  • @SOUPBOY1972
    @SOUPBOY1972 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Way to go Phil!

  • @sherab2078
    @sherab2078 Před 4 měsíci

    This was a great video! Loved it! Sure thing I would like to see Boardman upgraded! As a side note, I know this doesn't fit an entertaining video convention, so I don't expect this from you guys, but to make conclusions meaningful, Phill would have to make several rides on each bike to make results statistically valid.

  • @barryfrancis7899
    @barryfrancis7899 Před 4 měsíci

    Definitely do the boardman upgrades 😊

  • @yussanid
    @yussanid Před 4 měsíci +20

    wow, he can still chat comfortably while riding

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před 4 měsíci

      Maybe he wasn't going hard enough 👀

  • @sonneblendet1140
    @sonneblendet1140 Před 4 měsíci

    Super Video.
    Would really love to see make the cheap bike faster.
    I think little wider tires like 28 or 33mm will help a lot.

  • @AlSalisbury
    @AlSalisbury Před 4 měsíci

    More of Phil.... please.... and yes... Upgrade the Boardman to see if it can compete with the Orbea - great idea

  • @Horus-Lupercal
    @Horus-Lupercal Před 4 měsíci

    I managed to snag a shimano road bike, originally $1,200 NZD, down to $300 NZD, via a council program. The mechanic pointed out it's as light as a kids' bike, lol. I am *NOT* used to the speed, these channels are helping a lot, cheers!