Do You Know These 1965 Deluxe Reverb Tone Secrets?
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2021
- The Fender Deluxe Reverb Amp - The 'Desert Island' Amp For Many Guitarists. In This Video We Will Examine The Difference In Tones From The 2 Channels, Also Answer The Age Old Question---Why Are There 2 Inputs??
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You didn't hear a difference between the "high" and "low" inputs because there was none. The way these Fender amps are wired, input #2 only functions as a "low" input IF THERE IS NO PLUG INSERTED INTO INPUT #1. With 2 cords plugged into the amp going to your "A/B" switch box, they were both functioning as "high" inputs. Try plugging into one input at a time and you will hear the difference right away. especially with single coils.
I'll try it!!
Agree; I do notice a volume difference when I use 1 vs 2 (reissue) and same guitar. I had no idea about the single coil vs humbucker though, makes sense thanks for the info!
This is true. There is a very noticeable difference between inputs 1 and 2 (when used one at a time). Just try swapping between a Telecaster and a Les Paul with these two inputs to accentuate it. Some hum buckers I've used are rather low output (some of Gretsch's models for example) and they sound great in input 1. I also have some really hot single coils (some Seymour Duncun shredder coils for example) that I run in input two because they're so hot. No rules, plug in wherever you want, but there is a logical reason for the two inputs on the DR.
i hear a difference when i plugged my 61 355 into 1 and 2. 1 was like a ice pick and 2 mellowed it out
Hey Jon, this is a great demo! Nice work!
Thanks for watching Jeff! Glad you liked it
That original DR looks like its in amazing shape! Thank-you for posting this, I love these amps (and your two Les Pauls there!).
Thanks for checking it out Paul! Yes an amazing tech buddy of mine, also named Paul, helped me scour Reverb looking for the cleanest, best condition DR, I love it. And the LPs are great too haha. Cheers Paul!
Nice video I also have a deluxe. I love mine I couldn’t tell a noticeable difference in 1& 2
Thanks !
Thanks for watching Mark! They are great amps right?
@@JonMonter yes for sure
Great demo of the Deluxe Reverb! I was going to buy the Head version, but now I'm thinking to get the combo Deluxe Reverb.
Hey Reginator! Thanks for watching! I didn't know they made a head only version of the DR. Yes these combos are almost the perfect size for anything. Small enough to practice with but can keep up with a drummer as well
@@JonMonter Hey Jon, I also didn't know Fender made a head only version until a month ago. They made a limited run from 2014 - 2016 and Sweetwater even sold them. But now they're only available as used. Thanks for letting me know it won't be drowned out by the drummer!
@@ReginatorNet Oh cool ill have to look it up on Reverb. Yeah unless you play metal or rock with a hard hitting drummer the combo has enough power IMO
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Thanks Aleons! Next time I'll have to tell you guys to send cash lol. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for helping me id and locate the 47pf capacitor. It sits on the Vibrato Channel Volume pot. Regarding input 1 for single coil and input 2 for humbucking pickups. That really twisted my brain around. I've never ever heard that before. Did you learn that from another source or just conclude it yourself. It sounds logical, I'm just blown that I've never heard that before. I've been using Fender amps since 1964.
Thanks Carl, I never heard it before either - my tech told me about it. Check out my channel b/c I re did the input comparison - you cannot have cables into both inputs b/c it negates the resistor in input 2. But its a game changer on the deluxe - you can get cleaner cleans at a higher volume with hum buckers
Thanks for the 1 2 input info
Also never k ew aboit vibrato circuit to normal circuit difference...thank you
Thanks for watching Robert. Yes an interesting feature of the amp, I didn’t know either. I have a 1968 Super Reverb and used it for years not knowing the input difference lol
Please do a comparison of your vintage & the "newish" fender tone master version.
Hey Michael! I don't have the Tone Master, perhaps I'll ask around my friends to see.
As you may have noticed the bright cap has maximum effect at lower settings of the volume control, and progressively less as you turn it up. This is because the cap is bypassing the series element of the volume control. At 10 there will be effectively no difference.
Thanks for that, yes I did notice something happening when I turn it up but to be honest I don't 'crank' this amp - its got its original speaker and I usually don't bring this to super loud gigs anyways.
@@JonMonter Yeah, it's not often we get a chance to crank them up irl. Lol.
I couldn't hear the difference in the video, because of low quality sound reproduction, but here using my DR clone I can definitely tell a difference between "normal" and "vibrato" channel, and between input "1" and "2". I generally prefer the lower gain inputs in most amps, including my Deluxe Reverb (clone). I was only using the vibrato channel, because I like reverb, but after reading some opinions (there are just a FEW - eh?), I put a 12AX7 in to activate the "normal" channel, and it really is a bit fatter, with more bass (less treble?). Those four holes are all different, subtle, but I can definitely hear the difference. Even with a stratocaster, the lower gain holes sound better, and I'm liking that normal channel. If I connect the reverb to normal channel, I wonder if that will degrade the tone...?
Hey David! Thanks for watching and yes there are many opinions about what to change / mod with these DR. I must also say that the input comparison was done incorrectly (using both inputs at the same time negates the resistor, so both inputs sound identical) I re did that part and will release it soon. Also if you feel the vibrato channel has too much treble (a common complaint) you can take that tone cap out of the circuit and it will sound like the normal side. I did this mod and I really like how it sounds now. Im not sure about connecting the normal channel to the reverb. Im sure you can find 100 opinions on that one lol
Those two inputs are also handy for bridging the stages
Hey Michael! Ya how does that work? Would love to try it out!
@@JonMonter , get a short guitar cable and plug is between input two of the bright channel and input one of the normal channel. Then plug your guitar into input one of the bright channel. This works very well on my brownface vibrolux clone. YMMV on the DR sometimes the channels are out of phase. There are some CZcams videos about this.
@@michaelfuller34 Thanks man I'll check it out!
won't work with the Deluxe Reverb as the 'Normal' & Vibrato' inputs are out of phase(One extra Triode in the Vibrato), There is a way to adapt the channels to make this possible. Google it, there's a lot of info about the bridging mod.
@@danielcgomez Thanks for the info Daniel! I love learning about these lesser known topics from my viewers!
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Cool vid man 👌🏼 hope you’re well
Thanks for watching Zed! Glad my hypnosis worked on you. Others have reported the video helped them quit smoking as well, so theres that too
@@JonMonter 😂 perfect, saving lives too!!
So lots of people clip that bright cap out of the circuit, which I've been considering.. what is your take on that idea??
Hey Dustin! Yes these amps are very bright indeed on the vibrato side. I did the mod you are talking about, my tech removed the feet of the cap to take it out of the circuit but is very easy to re sodder it back in there. I am putting out a new input comparison vid with this amp very soon so you'll be able to compare these sounds with once the cap is removed. I would recommend this mod BTW, thanks for watching!
just got one today
Hey Bobby! They are great amps! Thanks for watching
The high pass cap you are referring to (as a bright switch always on) acts as everything above the frequency it allows is on 10, so technically to replicate that treble pass you would have to have the vol & treble dimed.
Hey J! First off, scary profile pic. I didnt know that about the high pass cap, ill do some experimenting over here. Thanks for the input
Can you tell me how the external speaker jack works? Does it cut out the inyrtnal speaker? Does it lower the impedance
Hey SD thanks for watching. I’m actually not sure how that jack works. I’ve never needed to use it. I have an impression that the ohm is something weird like 4 or something. I’m sure you could find pages of info online if you search it out. If you find anything of note please recommend with what you find!
@@JonMonter thanks for responding. If I find out anything, I'll reply here
@@JonMonter I ask "uncle doug" on his page. His answer "
Uncle Doug
It's parallel to the cabinet speaker jack, so the two jacks are an either/or arrangement: You can only use one jack at a time, i.e. unplug the cabinet speaker and then plug in an external speaker.....never both at the same time. "
I asked about ohm / load and he hasnt answered yet
@@SD-nj1cy thanks SD! Yes would like to hear about the load - if he gets back to you. Thanks again
is it possible to jump channels?
Hey Akbar! I have never tried it myself. I will look it up and see what I can do. I was going to try it awhile ago b/c someone else mentioned it but I forgot about it. Thanks for watching man
You gotta crank i t up
Sounds dull to me. Are you using an attenuator?
Hey 12, no attenuation!
Sounds a lot like my reissue
Cool! You prob had $$ left over lol. I wonder if yours has the same bright cap on the Vibrato channel? And the Hi and Lo input?
@@JonMonter I believe yes to all of the above
@@RambleTone its cool they left those in there. Enjoy that amp!
I didn't hear any significant difference with anything you did. I have a 65 Reissue which sounds pretty good to me, kind of like most Fender amps. To tell the truth I think all the hype about the old amps being better is to justify the crazy prices people ask for them, and any difference between the old ones and new ones IMHO is very subtle. Over the years I've had a few of the older ones, a blackface Bandmaster (it was OK), a Blackface Bassman (great bass amp for small venues, used for bass in a 3 piece acoustic band), a silverface Quad Reverb (loud and very very heavy, weird Master Volume control), a Super 60 rackmount (OK), and now a 65 Deluxe Reissue (probably the best of all of them). BTW I sold all of the others with no regrets, except for maybe the Bassman, and I wish I still had that one.
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Thx for the info
@@cigdamagelungs Ya In the 90s I recall all kinds of novelty lamps, and fountains and all sorts of cool stuff. Now its just a bunch of T shirts and some tame sex toy stuff and a few lava lamps. Hope you find a cool lamp Ricgard
What's better than a vintage Deluxe Reverb amp? Two vintage Deluxe Reverbs.
Indeed!
64 Strat into tumnus into Apex 808 into radial ABY into June 65 Deluxe Reverb and Feb 65 Super Reverb. Oh. My. Lord.
@@tonelok Sounds like a hell of a signal chain - got any videos of that in action?
@@tonelok And a Fender Vibratone with a Bassman head.
So in volume 3 it started to breakup... no very cleaner
It’s reissue or vintage?
vintage - 1965! I love it!
Jumper input 2 on both and you have reverb on the normal channel as well.
Nope. That only works with an internal mod. The two channels are not in phase, and this has to be changed before they can be bridged
First, playing a gibson guitar through a fender amp is not what leo invisioned when designed so not the tone you are playing at all.
OK man, sure. Sounds great to me but you know best buddy
@@JonMonter best buddy, going to look that up, hoping it's not a quip
Oh, was a quip oh well, did you see hendrix trying to get a decent tone from his gibson v playing on a marshall amp? You are mixing things that don't mix, hendrix started out with sunn amps and then to fender amps then to marshall amps but mostly used a fender guitar, this man made his best music on a fender strat played through a modified marshall amp.
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Haha Well did you?
@@JonMonter Of course!
no different to the sounds im getting from any other amp or the Logic Guitar Rig in the studio. an amp'd signal is what it is. obviously eq compression and mic placement, room and fx can make these amps come alive, but the vintage stuff is way overpriced.