Line 6 HX Stomp vs. Boss GX100. A Practical Comparison With Tone Samples
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- In this video I discuss why I chose one over the other from a practical point of view. Both these units are within a similar price point but I think should be used differently.
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Just wanted to add that there’s a new update for the Helix. So the notification you see HX edit prompt in the video is now outdated…. On the same day as posting this video 👌🏻
I honestly think the boss sounds way warmer fuller and less digital. Thanks for the demo
I felt the Boss tones more natural and dynamic than those of the Line6 so I switched from Helix to GX100
Same
Ditto
Same.
I have booth, but Boss is more natural.
Same
what does dynamic mean? does it mean it has less lag?
I tend to prefer the Boss tones, especially the first one. Line 6 also good but just seemed a bit more digital. I thought the boss sounded more amp like.
I have a GX 100. Before this one I had a Line6 Pod Go. Both are great. But to use the BOSS is much better with the touchscreen!!! I found my sound, but it was longer time. The Line6 was very good, natural but not a big processor. The BOSS has more dynamic range and this is what I love!!!
I just bought a Line 6 HX Stomp XL and now I am kind of wishing I bought the boss😂
Never mind the pedals, I want that Epiphone Firebird. Great playing Sir.
I owned a Kemper for 5 years, then changed to a Line 6 Pod Go , the sound went build quickly and I was happy.
Followed by the Fractal FM3, probably the best sound but terrible editing and audible latency when switching.
Now I own a BOSS GX 100 and I have to say , the sound after editing (Post processing) and IR is fantastic , but most importantly without any latency or processor limitations. All the changes happen on the screen , although I bought the BT version. For me the Boss GX 100 is a fantastic thing and I enjoy playing it again!
Thx for sharing. My take: the Boss slow dancer tone was killer. The rest ... too much reverb/?phase effect for me. Would love to hear your examples of relatively un-effected Fender, Vox, and Plexi tones from each, and how hard they were to achieve. Size doesn't matter if those basic tones are there, and if they're relatively easy to get to.
Thanks dude! there's a little bit of chorus on The Eric Johnson style tone, and also on 'JP lead' but no phase.
These are the tones I typically use on a day to day basis so just wanted to share what im comfortable using. I'll definitely make another video with less effects and more "straight into the amp like tones."
I like the sound of the GX 100 better.
I feel it reproduces the amp's behavior better.
The Line 6 sound is a bit unnatural, has a narrower range, and is generally closer to the midrange.
Well, sound is a matter of taste, so I can't say which one is right.
As for updates, as others have said, the GX100 is capable of fine-tuning the sound, so there will be more than a few people who don't need updates.
New amp models and effects are a combination of sounds, so to speak.
Also, the GX100(or BOSS products in general) is inexpensive for the quality .
It would be a bit much to ask a cost-effective product to be updated in the same way as an expensive one.
As for size, the HX STOMP is certainly smaller and easier to handle.
However, Andy calls himself a studio user, so I don't think there is any particular need to be concerned about size.
A rack type like the Axe-Fx would be fine.
In the end, though, it's best to use equipment that is easy to handle and that you like.
I agree that boss miss a trick if they don’t update the software. However, I don’t need a plethora of new amps, just a handful of great sounds. If we use analog only, most of us would only use the one amp?
Very true!
Me and My Guitar Play both Gig a GX100 (Guitar & Bass) through 2 x 1200 Watt Top and a 1000 Watt Sub.
Once you set them up right there bullet proof and the sounds are incredible. Saying that I'm looking at an HX stomp on another board as I'd like to sometimes use my analogue pedals so it'll fit on a board .
These units are all amazing you just need to research and spend time in getting them set up to what your using them for 🤟🎸
Boss and Line 6 effects are just Stella both amazing companies .
There's no " Better " it's just two different Units 🤟
After using an HX Stomp and a POD Go, I switched to the GX and have never been happier. I find it much easier to dial in a tone that sounds and feels right to me. And I don't care at all about updates. If I were playing through a traditional amp and pedals, I wouldn't get updates. I'd have to buy more amps and pedals. I get a few tones I need and that's it. And I've been complimented on my tone at gigs several times by people who can't believe I'm not playing through a tube amp.
I use the Boss - I am a bass player (mostly) but when switching to the occasional rhythm or lead on a six string I can leave it plugged into my bass stack and it compensates brilliantly. Our rhythm guitar player uses a Line 6 POD. He loves it, I love my Boss. So 100% personal taste.
The Boss GX100 is a sleeper. I have had mine for a year and I love it.
why is helix sold out more?
Close your eyes. Nobody will be able to tell which is which as far as sound/tone goes.
I have the Boss GX100 with the Bluetooth adapter. It is awesome. The tone sounds much nicer than the Line 6 to my ear.
I find most of the Boss tones you dialed to be "AIRY" ie. room air vibrates or resonates, which for me gives it a more natural sound of an amp in the room rather than the digitized version i hear from hx stop, then again jsut my 2 cents, thanks for sharing, im really looking into buying either a boss gx100 or an hx stomp so this video really helps. 🙂
I’m glad it helped you dude! It’s so subjective, because I’ve actually sold my GX-100 because I never use it… but the comments section prefer the boss. Both units are really good
@@andydavid9 but i truly agree with you with the size and how easy to dial a good tone with HX Stomp, however for my use as a band performer live on stage, i will be needing that foot pedal a number of switches to easily change tones on the fly, so yeah to each his own 🙂
As the Stomp XL and GX-100 are currently priced the same, this is a hot topic. My current live rig is a GT-100 into the power amp return of a Katana MK2. I'm happy with it, but I'd like to get a smaller multi-effects unit. The Stomp XL looks good, and I like the idea of scenes, but I'd have to also have a pedal for volume control. The GX-100 is considerably smaller than the GT-100 and I'm already familiar with the Boss way of doing things. For me, the draw of the Stomp is the number of curated amps and drive pedals (which I probably don't need for my funk gig), though I'm pretty sure the raw materials for a variety of amp sounds are available in the GX. The GX has more blocks and has a much better rotary effect in my opinion. Still, it would be fun to mess around with the Stomp. Sound-wise, going into the power amp in, I doubt there would be much difference between the two.
there is also the option of gt 1000 core which is much smaller.
I guess that price comparison was a temporary sale on the Stomp XL or something because the prices i see currently are more like the Stomp XL is about 200 dollars more expensive or about 230 euro in Europe at Thomann, even the small stomp is more expensive than the GX-100.
Line 6 tones sound too digital for me, defenetly prefer the boss ones.
I have the Boss GX 100 and it's great, you can create your own tone, obviously you have to go deep in the unit.
Hi Andy!
I thought your video was really good, you just gained a subscriber from Brazil 🇧🇷
Regarding the two, in your opinion today, which one would you take?
I have a Boss gx-100 and I want to exchange it for the HX, do you think it's a good one?
Thanks!!
@@hugopacheco2961 hey dude, thanks man! I have actually gone back to the GX as I think the amp modelling is way better than the HX. Mainly because of the dynamics the BOSS is able to capture
@@andydavid9 Good!
Here in Brazil people prefer HX
They say that the Boss amplifier simulations are not very good.
I'll try a little more with the GX-100, I still haven't got the sound I like, but I'll try. Thanks!!
Why would you think the GX is something other than a floor unit? Of course its a floor unit, thus the rocker pedal. Its not meant to be used on a desk.
haha good point. This is something I discovered while using it. The boss was the first thing I bought after giving up on valve amps, and discovered that these things can easily be used on a desk, rather than on the floor like a normal board.
@@andydavid9 Ya, I ditched my 100# Mesa head/cab. I built a 2x10 Neo combo with a 1U SS stereo power amp. It weighs 40#! I just run the GX straight in and it sounds sweet!
I don’t own either unit, just researching but to my ears the boss sounded best in all examples bar the ej sky clean - that one just sounded more artificial. In all other cases I preferred the boss, just sounds more like an amp.
@@j-day the boss does seem to be the all round winner. It’s preferred by sooo many people. I think the boss is definitely the better option now. Since I filmed this videos the HX has gone up in price by a lot, so the boss is better for the money too.
Now I am on the fence. Been holding on buying an HX stomp going on 2 years. At this point I convinced myself tgat I shouldn't invest on full price for a unit that old. Then I checkes the Boss GX100 and gotta say the only con I see is the form factor (what attracted me to the HX stomp to begin with). Honestly most tones I have heard online from the HX sounded computerish to me.
Your pillowed lead for the Line 6 unit bore no resemblance to the Boss unit. Were you trying to show the GX100 in a bad light?
There’s obviously going to be some difference as they’re not the same unit. Nah dude, I didn’t want to show the boss in a bad light, and don’t think I did as the Boss gets better feedback overall
The boss gets recked in cleans and heavey. But it also kills the helix is crunch and effects
I don’t know what he is hearing but boss definitely sounds way better and natural than line 6. The user comments says it all.
I prefer the Boss, sometimes sound darker but you can change with eq.
Boss tones seem more natural and smooth, surprised since you were liking the HX more.
The Helix is better supported and the editing on the device is more difficult on the Boss. I am torn because I fear the Boss might be heading to some kind of end of life, but the sounds to my ear are less "brittle". That being said, it feels like all the sounds are more brittle sounding on the Helix and all the sounds have trouble, from what I have heard in samples, are all dark ish - warm sounding. The helix has more sharp penetration, almost beyond "clarity" into a harshness. The Boss could possibly be trending towards somewhat dull.
I want both qualities and sounds in one unit :)
I dont think the boss unit is heading to end of life. But a new unit possibly called Boss GX1000 is on the way.
The boss sound better...
Andy we need a round 2 !!
I’ve actually sold my GX100!
@@andydavid9 It's fine bro, I love the Stomp as well, do you use it as a gig unit or desk only ?
@@cedricrazafitrimo8550 I don’t play live anymore, so just for studio use
Boss sounds organic and rich. Helix sounds thin, brittle and fake. Thanks!
Boss sounds way cleaner than the line 6….
In my opinion, Boss is much better than Helix. I've had every version of the Helix, but when I bought the Boss, I can't put it down. Of course, you need to know the device well. Boss is the world champion and the price is not high.
Hi, is the boss gx100 dual amp can be use simultaneously as mono ?
Yes
Does the Boss just sound like a Katana?
I don’t think so. I had the katana and used it for a long time and I used it as a wet, dry wet rig and I got really good sounds but the feel and playability of it is not as good as the GX-100
bro, your gx-100 preset in that link is empty 😢
Yeah I had to delete it as the TSL files didn’t work 👎🏼 boss make it so hard to download presets
@@andydavid9 ooo i see
@@andydavid9 yeah how can I get the GX-100 patches?
The Boss GT1000 is a fairer comparison...
2:36 AHAHHAHAHAH
😉
You dialed up a bunch of very generic tones that I think can be achieved by any modeler really. Didn’t love or hate anything you showcased.
Thanks man 🤙🏼
hope line 6 paid you well ! i suggest you compare gx100 tones from this video and "gx100 replaced my rig" video, I think you should compare both "slow dancing in a burning room" tones from this video and the other one, you are clearly lying , either in this video in this case you getting paid by line 6 to make hx sound supperior, or in the other video to make the boss sound way much better than what it is capable , so in that case you are getting paid by boss ,either way that s not honest ! you lost a subscriber ... good luck
wow so much hate bro. I can promise you all my videos are 100% honest... I have just over 3k subs... no one is paying me. Line 6 and boss wouldn't even look at my channel as it would be a terrible business decision to pay such a small 'CZcamsr' for advertising.
But if you look at the comments on this video, pretty much everyone prefers the Boss...
Also I think the other slow dancing video I did was using a Neural DSP plugin but that was not a boss video, and probably clearly labeled "neural DSP"
@@andydavid9 czcams.com/video/y4Gkb2aniD8/video.html
@@andydavid9 BOSS GX100 REPLACES MY WHOLE RIG. HERE ARE SOME OF MY TONES. minute 01:41 , I see no neural dsp label here ! just need an explanation for such a difference in tone?? between this video at at 4:45 and the one bellow at 01:41 ??
czcams.com/video/y4Gkb2aniD8/video.html
@@medabroud9855 Ahh gotcha dude! I get your confusion, but the presets in this video were created specifically for this video. The older video you are referring to was just my standard tones that I often used. I tried to create tones for this video that were similar across both units to keep it fair. And for that Slow dancing tone, I kept referencing the actual song when creating my presets.
I haven't tried to make one sound specifically worse than the other, I've just dialled in tones that in the moment I thought sounded similar. Personally I think I did a better job on the HX and that's why I ended up keeping it and selling GX, however there's A LOT of comments in favour of the GX.
Boss ❤
I have a GX-100 and my heart hurts, but I have to agree: Boss is ridiculous post-purchase. There is no possibility of an update forecast or “war marketing” for your products. They just launched and abandoned it slowly.
Line 6 is really far superior in this regard.
I have been a Boss user for almost 30 years. Soon, I will no longer be and will stop recommending the brand.
Thank you for sharing your opinion!
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You aren’t wrong about the updates. But at the same time I never understand the obsession with updates. These units come with dozens and dozens of amps. There are no other amp sounds needed. I get that people like updates and free stuff but there are no new “amp” sounds that come with updates. There are only so many clean or dirty sounds possible!
@@dryanbuchanan My friend, no problem disagreeing :-)
However, updates are always signs of continuous improvements in a device that has a lot of room for evolution (and enormous possibilities, if Boss wanted it). Generally, people who like experimentation and pushing their equipment to the limit are the users most eager for updates.
Wouldn't you like to try out a Dumble? A different Surh or Marshall, more complete and different Delays and Reverbs like those of the RV series (and regardless of how many amplifiers the GX has)? So, why does Line 6 differentiate itself in offering this to its users? Helix is over 10 years old and still being updated... If you are satisfied with the product you have in your hands at the moment, no problem :-)
But I'm one of those people who use the device to the extreme, and I see no problem with always wanting more, especially when the GX has so much room for improvement and processing power available.
@@HeltonMoura Sure, if you just want more options, and obviously most people do, then by all means, get a unit with more amps available. My point is only that you can achieve ANY amp sound with the amps already in the boss unit that you could with 300 amp options from something like fractal. Sure, different effects can change the tone, but I’m talking about strictly raw amp sounds. It’s completely unnecessary to have so many models. You could take a fractal unit and find any amp sound you want, and it could be matched identically with an amp already in the boss.
@@dryanbuchanan Yes yes, exactly.
This is what I'm trying to say: It shouldn't be necessary to add any more equipment.
But (unfortunately) following this line, I would opt for a ToneX, as I have already seen good results with the combination.
Anyway thanks for the comment 😁
Oh, I forgot to mention that here in Brazil almost a year ago, Boss did marketing saying that some local guitarists (famous in their segments) would make their views on the equipment available in free patches. It would be interesting for us to see how a successful guitarist thinks about his chain, etc... It NEVER had any results or reached the public, lol