there will Never Ever be another Melee player like Hungrybox
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- It ain't easy being number Juan.
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incredible 💚
thank you emp
Props to you, man. Your thanks is overdue
Hey Hbox :)
I don't know anything about Melee, but you are a legend. Cheers 🍻
I didn't know who you were until Emp, but I think he's painted a very vibrant picture of your inner strength, and now that I'm aware of you, you have my support. Figured it was time you got some good feels your way, man. Keep up the Good Fight.
Don’t give up and pleases do what you want don’t be forced : D
Imagine having to face "The fifth god" and then you finally meet him and he's named Dr. PeePee.
*D O C T O R P E E P E E*
PPMD Kreygasm
that dark souls moment where you fight "the fifth god" and then get his sword and the description of it says that it belonged to "dr peepee"
Booooooow, before the old gooooods.
Korean DJ
this is probably the only community where dudes can keep raw crabs in their pockets and nobody even notices the smell
That's just how Maryland is.
I mean this community is associated with sweating for reason
LOL!
Aight, smash bros business idea. Crab scented deodorant.
@@Lord_Slifer The Smash Crabs. Smell like a crab, AND get hated by one of the top melee players in the world!
I once heard someone perfectly describe why 20XX will never happen. "In a world where people only play fox, those fox's will only be prepared to face other foxs. An off meta pick will have infinite fox's to practice against, whereas the fox will have no way to prepare for the off meta. So even if the off meta isn't technically perfect, they will always find a way in"
Exactly. What’s the point of training an entire army in sword fighting when the enemy has a tank?
i.e. how aMSa ended up beating Mang0 with Yoshi lol. Mang0 even tweeted: “who the fuck plays yoshi in this venue LMAO”
To be fair there were maybe 4 ppl who took 20xx seriously and emplemon is, i guess, one of them. It was just a hypothetical to illustrate that fox is the best character. Its a meme ffs
Just pointing out that amsa had played Yoshi years before people talked about the recent win against mang0 lol
plus, fox isnt even the best character at many of the things he does
The irony of HBox getting a crab thrown at him, symbolizing the crab mentality of the community at the time, is so funny to me.
That guy really shot himself in the foot for that…
Yah but at the same time it is kind of sad due to people not seeing the irony and can’t seem to respect a man who dud nothing wrong. It is a moment in Smash history we should NEVER EVER do
And it had to be in Maryland...
@@tf2fanboy pretty sure there's nowhere else it could be lmao
@@tf2fanboy what’s up with Maryland?
Hbox: breathes
Melee community: HE'S TRYING TO TAKE ALL THE OXYGEN SO NOBODY CAN PLAY MELEE!!
Ya know, it may be terrible to be said, but lets have melee die.
Martin Rebro I’m glad melee didn’t came back from evo can you believe how toxic the community would be if it came back from evo?
He's sucking up all the oxygen in the room man, It's what he does.
he is gonna start floating again.
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 well Melee won't be dying anytime soon. The only way it'll die is if the world runs out of CRTs. But even then it can still be played on monitors.
How am I supposed to convince my gf this shit is serious when you have dr pee pee as one of the 5 gods
Don't bother, maturity is accepting your adolescence as much as regulating it
Did not expect this level of philosophy in a Super Smash Brothers Melee comment section
Lol great comment , it’s all a matter of perspective sir ;)
@@elgatochurro accepting how important it is I feel would be a better line of advice
@@elgatochurro but maturity is many things I do agree with your statement but you have to think about other examples of maturity because it is many things
Imagine being the random 14-year old kid who beat the greatest smash player of all time
"who is thst
I was once the greatest melee player in my friend group of 10+ (won with jigglypuff coincidentally). Fast forward to today, and my 11 year old cousin can three stock me in SSBU without even trying. I think kids are just naturally better at video games.
@@GuywithaclubI don't feel like I'm improving too much in general video games since, maybe 15 at most? I'd find myself pulling up some game I played thinking I'm going to crush it since I'm older, but it doesn't turn out much easier, not in a mechanical standpoint (maybe I'll learn not to save items or I'll be more open to different playstyles, but I peaked there too recently, I think)
@Guywithaclub I mean, look at ultimate it's dominated by young people, if that isn't the truth then it's a crazy coincidence
and imagine getting shit on by grown ass weirdos online for doing so
the fact that he used that very crab that was meant to insult him, joking about it and used it as a symbol of humility, showing others that he's not a god, he's just a human that tried. That is a real legend.
・˚✧₊⁎❝᷀ົཽ≀ˍ̮ ❝᷀ົཽ⁎⁺˳✧༚
*"You Know How Hard I Work Out Here?"*
Man it hurts me that he has to ask that, that people are just unaware.
The original video of the incident has people laughing at him for making that statement and saying how he deserved it 😔
the sheer emotion in his voice when he said that really hit me
Imagine being him, winning a tournament being hyped and happy and just seconds later being humiliated and even attacked from many people. Turning the feeling of success into the feeling of being hated. these audience guys are rude af.
@@gordonbman2911 welcome to smash, specifically Melee. The most toxic FGC bar none. Amazing game, incredibly talented players, absolute neanderthal fans...
I remember seeing a video of that, randomly, and thinking "Holy crap this guy is full of himself. It's a kid's game and he mains Jigglypuff."
With context, it's an entirely different picture. It's a man who's spent a decade becoming the best he can be, and being mocked and ridiculed when he finally got to the top. It's a statement of disbelief, not of entitlement.
*That guy was just holding a crab for the entire tournament.*
and it didn't pinch him magically
He also held cuz he knew hbox was gonna win
screw him tho
I mean... they were in Maryland after all
Local Neko Nia it was dead
The melee community is the only community to not question the smell of a random guy with a crab in his hands.
In a melee tournament hall he probably smelled _better_ than average.
Been on a Hungrybox history train through CZcams for a few hours, and you know what boggles the mind ? How when faced with a story with people being hateful, unaccepting and destructive, where there's a pretty clear lesson to be extracted about tolerance and not being toxic, people feel compelled to go in the comments and mock awkward teenagers for their lack of hygiene/upvote that en masse. Because it's so funny, right ?
I just don't get you guys sometimes.
@@CyclonSilverbecause that’s the easy thing to draw from the video, everyone got that from watching it, there’s no reason to wax philosophic about it, the entire video was about that, and it was obvious
Comments are usually for shitposting and humor, and it’s funny to think that NOBODY noticed a guy just holding a crab for several hours because the entire spectator group smelled so bad
@@BudewFan_ I'm not denying that it's easy, I'm saying it's also hurtful, and that's where there's a line to be drawn when it comes to humor. Let's not dance around the fact that this is a common way to mock that community either, didn't come out of nowhere, so you can add bullying to the bill for anyone in the know.
I'm pretty sure back then you telling people to lay off the Hungrybox hate would have resulted in the same kind of retort about how it's "humor" and it happens for good reason and you're being a stick in the mud about it. Guess they were wrong (it was indeed hurtful) but now somehow you're correct ?
i swear this man could ramble on about the history of dish soap for 5 hours and i'd watch every second
there will Never Ever be another soap like Dawn
@@GustavAhlbrand 💀
@@GustavAhlbrand dude I literally got a dawn ad 1 minute before this comment.
there will Never Ever be another ankle like Ed Sheerans left ankle
i dont even play melee
Imagine vacationing with your family, thinking "Oh cool a tournament for a game I play, I should enter" Then beating the former #1 player in the world
perfect movie script idea
@@lucidstranger Oh my god it is
lucidstranger wow you’re right
@@lucidstranger That's basically The Wizard, except our protagonist walks off into the tournament without the rest of his family.
Basically pokemon except its no vacation and the tournament is nationally rather than regional
Video games: The only place where you can have a legendary figure named Dr. Peepee
@Shaman Xeed I KNEW YOU HAD AN ODOR KINK
Even better, when the sponsorships started flooding in, he changed his name to PPMD.
Once he got sponsored he became PPMD :(
Kent - 929S - Bucketfullabiscuits It’s like the nvidia GeForce Experience aka “GF Experience.” Subtle enough but still wildly immature, haha
PPMD's such a cool guy too lol
My respect for Hungrybox suddenly increased when i realized that he paid attention to his real life prospects and focused on his school and college!
Many considered HungryBox as the villain, but they never considered the tyrant that was right under their noses, Leffen. He became the villain he should be.
Very late reply but what did leffen do ?
@illv3 not going to be the most in-depth reply, but Leffen has been an extremely egotistical and rude person in several gaming communities (particularly melee) for years, which is shown to some extent in this video. That with a mix of being unsportsmanlike and not accepting losses (ex: after hbox beat him at Ludwigs tournament a year or so ago, he had a huge rant about how melee needs an air time limit? Weird ass take, and was specifically anti-jiggly), a lot of the gaming community hasn't really liked having him around at some point or another. It's super hard to say specifics because he goes off on rants, or does generally toxic stuff fairly often, but the rant mentioned above is the biggest recent one I can think of.
That said, he's wicked good at fighting games, and has reconciled with some people after his worst era getting him banned from smash for a little while (talked about a little in the video). Though he's toned it down, many still find him insufferable. Hope that wasn't too much, and after I said I'd try to keep it short
@illv3 @cadhla2989 As far as I'm concerned, being rude and unsportsmanlike, while noteworthy, is not the most egregious of Leffen's crimes. The fact that he claimed a false victim testimony during 2020's Me Too movement is atrocious. The fact that he conspired against fellow content creators in an attempt to get them canceled during said movement for financial and political profit is diabolical. The fact that he used his influence to vilify competitors, some to the brink of suicide, is despicable. I don't like to refer to anyone as an "evil person," but Leffen has consistently done evil things to people in this community and, as far as I can tell, still feels no remorse for such actions. The fact that people still respect him is astonishing to me, and, frankly, is as strong of an indictment against the community as Leffen has against himself.
@@illv3 Just the typical narcissistic personality disorder stuff any tyrant does.
"There used to be 5 gods, now there's just Juan"
Eater of worlds
Soggy Ramen A meteorite has landed!
Soggy Ramen & Rhys Evans Goblin Army is approaching from the West
i almost scrolled down and then i got it
TartarusYT "You feel an evil presence watching you..."
Mango: “Come up and get me”
Hungrybox: “ok”
Mango:
*You weren’t supposed to do that*
Lol
Relatable
Why did that guy have a crab
@@sludgebob5961 who doesn't have a random crab in their pockets at all times?
"Wait. That's illegal."
As a sidestory. Armadas character and playstyle make him sound like a very intersting person as well. For me the second "hero" of the story
I love HBox and he's my favorite for sure, but there's no doubt Armada is the GOAT as a competitor.
@@shinji136There is some doubt, the panel put Mango at one
Look up the “Metagame” documentary. Documentary about Armada’s career
he definitely has his own story to tell. he grew up in a small village an practised against CPUs and still became the number one
Armada was a huge force in the scene. He basically won everything easily. The thing was, no one even came close for a long time. Players like Hungrybox, Mang0, Leffen, or whoever would rarely have close matches. Armada just seemed like there was no chance to beat him. He was dumpstering really really good players like they just picked up the game. I would say he was absolutely the most dominate Melee player of all time. Even other players he mentions in this video would get smacked by him with no effort. Unfortunately, he just lost the love of competing.
This man carried an entire generation WHILE IT WAS TRYING TO DESTROY HIM.
“PeePee’s style relied on tactical precision”
i cant lmao
edit: i hate that this comment is popular
Peepee haha
@@unsubme2157 bruh
@@AFF_NYC peepee haha
ahah eepeep
I’m dying lmao
HungryBox quitting his job is the equivalent of Goku taking off the weights.
"This must be over a 100 kilos!"
Not the weights, the weighted clothing.
Or rock lee
Goku is shit. So is melee. Move on like the rest of us to ultimate. Ur in the minority
Man chill some of us haven’t played melee but the story behinds hungry box is interesting and amusing I am sorry if I sounded rude but well this is just a feel good video to spend time and chill
Love the character growth from Mango, citing HBox as a big reason for him to keep getting better. He really came a long way from the jerk that once greatly disrespected him and turned an entire community against. Nice to see that he changed and became a better person.
The two of them hosted an online Melee tournament and it. . . is an experience.
@@matthewroberts6833 genuinely the hardest I've laughed in a long while, them two together are just an infinite fountain of content
If only leffen could do the same
@@OGamelonTRUE
@@OGamelonwhat do you mean by that?
the smash convention smelled so bad that someone was able to sneak a raw crab in there 💀💀
Honestly I've been to a handful of big tournaments before and none of them smelled even close to bad.
The worst part by far is the weird vendors who display explicit anime crap on their booths out in the open. Like seriously the moment you enter the venue you just get assaulted by it.
@@paolosworld99 nah fr
Alternative title: A man with a dream makes the entire internet salty because they aren't as good
so true
True
True
lol true
It sucks when everyone stops caring as soon as you start winning.
Never Ever
S1E1 : SpongeBob SquarePants
S1E2 : Monday Night Raw
S1E3 : Dale Earnhardt
S1E4 : *THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT OF NUCLEAR ANNIHILATION*
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Seems like a logical progression
Basically everything that goes through my head before I go to sleep.
In that order.
S1E6: Pogs
Episode 6 should be about Angry Video Game Nerd
I'll bet $20 that the next Never Ever episode will be about Team Fortress 2.
EVO 2016 is probably one of the greatest tournaments I ever got to watch live. The culmination of so many sets and stories followed by… THAT grand finals. Insane
amazed that everyone hated hbox for playing a 'hated character' acting as if they weren't all just spamming fox every chance they got
They seemed to expend more energy hating on Hbox than they did chasing any of the actual villains
"There were once 4 others just like him. Now there's only Juan."
I really should be mad at you. I'm really not tho.
It ain´t easy being Number Juan
@Shaman Xeed
Damn, that's some top quality bait.
XDDD
What about mango or m2k?
@@jimathynutron2362 Mang0 still competes and is ranked 8th in the world behind Hungrybox at 7th (the top 1 player is Cody Schwab/iBDW), m2k has retired from melee.
Hungrybox really won evo with a full time engineering job that’s crazy when u think about it
legit yes, like wtf i make pies and im not good at games D:
same, I make games and I'm not good at games D:
Mang0 is a dad lol
Fer Unless he’s a single dad, a full time engineering job is still more admirable.
@@rubyy.7374 I've know full-time engineers and new fathers. New fathers look like they are going through a special kind of hell that only survived with the knowledge it temporary, illegal to not doing anything, and their too tired to think anything else.
I know nothing about smash, but this was an incredible story that made me feel like a true fan for a moment.
You should watch the CZcamsr "AsumSaus" if you think ur into it
Melee is goated join the club bro
i have never seen a competitive smash match, but hungrybox is officially my favourite esports player ever.
we are currently in the age of chaos , the remaining god are not at their prime , the melee skill cap is narowing ,and the ceiling keep going higwer
it the best moment to start play melee (fro free go check out slippi) and the best game to watch
Watch a vid about amsa 🙃
@@PyroBlastOne amsa and hbox, both goated
All 5 gods are very interesting
@@epicgamer-ur1wgnha fuck mango.... every one elses is good tho
"The fifth god, Dr. Pee Pee"
God why did this make me laugh
Bro just reading that made me laugh
Shaman Xeed Pls stop
He was embarrassed of his name, so he eventually turned it into “PP Md”
Pee Pee M.D.
@Shaman Looks like the doc need to prescribe to you some chill pills
I asked Juan to sign my controller before one of his pools matches in 2016 EVO.
He looked tired, was in line for coffee, but still took the time to give me a signature.
+1 good interaction for the Box Man, love that dude
Box
box
bOx
BoOOooox MAAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAaan
Box
I just watched an 84min doc on a topic and people I never thought or cared about. Well done
its crazy how Emp made an entire human so he could have a cool character for his video.
What do you mean?
@@the_br0wnie294 he invented hungry box
@@hylianmango8272 ? What?
@@shinji136 are u this dense???
@@hylianmango8272 I am not. You're just delusional with what you're implying.
Imagine, You enter a Tournament with the User name "Dr. Pee Pee" as a joke, and then that Joke name sticks with you because you became one of the Top player in the game
That's when you become PPMD
PPMD is one of my favorite players, dude
Chronicle Zombie imagine playing a pet deck in 2020
pvzh gang where you at
Mew2King doesn't have to imagine.
“The Rise of the fifth god: Dr. PeePee”
I swear, I could not stop laughing at that moment 😂
When he said PeePee MD I lost it
I wonder how many times did this man recorded this so he could say it without laughing
There is a five year old inside all of us
[proceeds to say "PP" as much as possible throughout this section of the video]
Andre We put respect on the name of the doctor
This channel is amazing. Makes me care about stuff I genuinely didn't know about or had no previous interest in.
I've avoided this video for years to not being interested in Melee, but after watching AsumSaus' video on aMSa I gave this a chance, and I'm glad I got to know about another awesome player who doesn't stick to the conventions and who also achieved his goals in such a stubborn and strong way.
As soon as I read the the title I said: *2 years later* YOSHI!
I had my share of cringy preeteen gamer names, but imagine sticking to one, becoming a master of the game, rising through the ranks and having to tell your grandchildren, "I was Dr. PeePee, and I was called a god of Melee." That's true dedication.
PPMD is also such a nice guy
@@bananacat3109 all the gods seem like really nice guys aside from mango, mango seems very cocky, especially in the reddit reply.
@@moo9557 Mango is definitely very cocky and arrogant but he's still a good guy. He was just especially so in 2013 during that AMA. He's humbled up a lot since then. Not who I would consider "nice" but he still means well. He meant well back then, too, but his arrogance overpowered everything else. He should have given Hbox more credit in that AMA and he learned his lesson from the backlash along with having a moderated conversation with Hbox soon after.
@@moo9557 while mango is definitely a showboater, he's definitely changed. If you watch some of his recent streams, he's in touch with the community, and while he sometimes is arrogant, he seems a lot more set on becoming a better player, having good relationships with fellow pros, and just promoting melee as a whole. Part of this has to be fueled with his epic war with zain, as they are the top 2 players in the world rn and are just getting better.
If i was known as a God i'd be cocky too
Emplemon 10 years ago: YTP Homer Simpson Commits Tax Fraud in the Belgian Congo with Justin Timberlake’s Left Kidney
Emplemon now: Best smash bros melee player of all time, best nascar racer of all time, best Russian at a not-letting-the-world-die-in-nuclear-fire
Best wrestling program on TV, best cartoon
NGL I would watch the shit out of that YTP
"best smash player of all time"
Armada says hi
Best cartoon of this generation
@@nozomuitoshiki6667 honestly, at the time Armada retired he was the GOAT but in terms of pure skill, Juan, having stayed on top for so long, is certainly worth considering for the spot. (Whatever the case, Armada and Hbox are in a league of their own.)
38 yr old mom/wife here that got caught by autoplay... I could care less about video games but I appreciate the sheer artistry and analysis that went into this so I decided to kick back and enjoy the episode. 😅maybe I will learn something new. Good work, bro.
this was amazing, made my hour long cleaning of the kitchen surfaces and dishes super super interesting! thank you for making my night, and more love to Hungrybox!
"The rise of the 5th god - Dr. Pee Pee"
I'm sad that I lack the talent to make this shit up
If you consider the real-life event that inspired the name, it hardly seems that creative.
@MEEPBUD spilled soda on himself (Dr. Pepper), his friends made fun of him and called him Dr. Peepee. Instead of being embarrassed about it, though, he owned it
@MEEPBUD he sometimes shortens it to “PP M.D.” which is somehow even better
@@RyeBreadFF He changed his tag from Dr. Pee pee to PPMD when he got sponsored so that it was at least slightly more professional. He only goes by PPMD now
Elfs here are called monster
Who the hell keeps a raw crab with them at a gaming tournament
For real. That's my question too. Kinda sounds fucked up
In Maryland, we have crabs on us at all times
Nerds are fucking weird, gamers + nerd just throws it into a dangerously weird realm.
Nate Ashbrook haha, so funny
Gary's out here asking the real questions
I love how he puts yoshi as a character capable to win tournaments, thanks aMSa.
HungryBox: *Dominates by using the most off-meta character.
The Melee community: No, this isn't how you're supposed to play the game.
Kirby & Bowser: *ahem*
Puff is a top 5 character in the game. Hardly off meta
@gibransalazar7769 Who else played puff at the time?
@@dozensofknives9104 Literally dozens of players. By your logic, since Mango is the only Falco making top 8 for the last couple of years, that makes Falco off-meta? LOL
@@gibransalazar7769 who do you think put Jigglypuff on that high pedestal
A 14 year old coming to EVO during a family vacation and winning it all IS pretty incredible though. Respect to that kid.
@@circhester9944 its still cool tho
Yea kinda funny to think ppl were actually cappin bout a 14 year old prolly having a fucking blast just cause his win was a farce😂
@@samalderman2721 wins a win
The fact that a newcomer can beat a top tier player due to the game itself, just shows how much more casual Brawl is compared to Melee and even Ultimate. I wonder how far did he go in that tournament.
@@circhester9944 smash meters didn’t exist in Brawl bb
In order to be loved, you first must be hated.
And you must be hated to learn how to appreciate love
Words spoken by a great man
“I understood that reference”
what about babies
All of these videos are at the Top 20 of the site
First Hungrybox, now Amsa. That's two hour-long player focused documentaries on CZcams
iBDW next. I like polarizing documentaries
@@paolosworld99and there was a heavily underrated documentary on Axe by Turndownforwalt
@@Totas_funnynumber No disrespect to turndownforwalt but I feel like his content is really boring and inoffensive for the most part.
It's a shame too, since turndownforwalt has editors and animators working for him unlike Asumsaus and this vid. With some better hooks / creative direction I feel like his channel could be doing serious numbers, but right now most of his videos are lucky to hit 50k.
If walt came out the gate with a super intriguing polarizing video about iBDW that causes a stir, that would do HUGE waves compared to what he makes now.
@@paolosworld99 Tell me again how 'S2J punches a young child' is inoffensive content lmao.
For the most part I do agree with you. Maybe he just needs to do more meme break downs like this one.
@@queuedjar4578 Have you seen that video? Aside from the baseline joke it STILL feels like an AI wrote it. All of his videos are the most sanitized surface level review content ever. Even his meme videos feel like he's reading a Wikipedia page.
Even the people who like turndownforwalt don't watch his videos all the way through, his viewer retention just drops off instantly at the start, compare that to this video. The difference is night and day.
Not even trying to dunk on the guy, he just needs to be better at his job. He needs to learn how to be entertaining, and direct his content to be shorter, edgier, and more watchable.
Dude that "you will never be the best" as a gut wrencher
*ARHOY SPONGEBOB, HUNGRYBOX JUST WON POUND 2019, AND I'M SOARING THROUGH THE AIR. ARGHARGHARGHARGHARGH*
Very Epic Joke
I only have one question:
Why does that pfp exist
Lmao
My favorite Mr. Krabs meme.
Lost genesis
this man just making movies and puttin' em on youtube for free
LordWeasel let me tell you about a man named Jon Bois
@@bRETTfAVREatgbnyjmni yeah he is too good for this site
He should copyright claim himself before someone else does.
Netflix hopes it can make movie like this.
>"this man"
I'm a little offended how you've never heard of Emp before, but only a little.
I didn't know HungryBox until I watched this video, but it's such a masterpiece that I watched the whole thing 3 times already. This is truly inspiring scriptwriting and video editing
Such a great video, just came back to watch again after Juan lost at Ludwig's tourney. I'm routing for you Juan.
"I don't care if hbox wins for another 10 years, melee is sick." - Mango
He said that? I'm glad
@@ElWeebDelBarri he doesn't hate the puff matchup. He and hbox are on different wavelengths and have clashed as a result but it was never about hbox playing puff. Conversely Armada never had a problem getting along with hbox but hates hates hates playing against puff.
@@TheStrangeBloke ehh.. if you've ever seen his reddit AMAs he does seem to dislike hbox and puff.
(answer to why he has beef w/hbox):
"He turned puff into the lamest thing after i made her legendary ... A$$HOLE"
(a response to hbox):
"LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO i can say that i have grown up a lot in the last 2 years .. and i waited to shake ur hand at ncr but you were crying or whatever and i was gonna wait till you were finished And ive been more civil to you outside of smash for sure but when it comes to the game itself i have 0 respect for ur " skill " . I think ur a disgrace to the game and i think ur god awful. You learned 1 gimmick and abused it .. You never adapt to anything .. Ur just bad at the game and if you wanna shut me up. Beat me consistently dude and it will change .. Until then get off of reddit and go practice"
He’s a good sport
Shironane I assume what he means is that his mentality towards hbox and puff have changed over the years. That AMA was from 2013, maybe things have changed since.
"If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we would find in them enough sorrow and suffering to disarm our hostility" - Henry Longfellow
Lol, Longfellow
@@afrollamma8087 Thanks for the gateway to the amazing uploads
Ironic that’s my history teacher’s last name
I made it 991 lol, get triggered
oMg I'm So TrIgGeReD
i can feel the edibles start to hit so here i am rewatching this for like the 7th time
Legend 😅😂
Man I've rewatched this video like 5 times and it's just a complete masterpiece, good job man. Brings a man whom of which really needed it to light.
this man went through a villain arc training arc and a redemption arc
he has main character energy for sure
his father even said he wasn't gonna be good, died and shit
def. mc ye
I thought the exact same thing while watching this. Fuckin'... this shit was intense, lol
you forget the very obvious tournament arc
@@officialodin327 yes
He is not a villain, he's the underdog who surpased god and become one. He had overcome his weakness and become the breaker of the totalitarian system which was hypocrite and monotone over the years. That's sound like a true hero to me
Kevin Nanney: I need a name that will be synonymous with me forever.
Also Kevin Nanney: Dr. PeePee
i mean, he DID change it to PPMD so its not exactly synonymous forever
Kevin Nanney? What's his father's name, Kevin Nurse?
I think it may be a That 70's show reference
@@psyguyyggdrasil9071 No, he went to his first tournament and spilled Dr. Pepper on his pants. Decided to enter as Dr. PeePee as a joke and it stuck
@@creepingfate117 thanks for the melee lore
What a piece of content, hats off! Kept me captivated for the whole video, congratulations on being a great creator and story teller!
This is one of the best pieces of media I’ve ever watched.
“In his day, there were four others like him. Now, there was just Juan”
The raw power of puns alone is making me uncomfortable
Яеversed Я I also am a fan of “Melee was a Smash hit.” Because you smash someone with a melee weapon and it’s Super Smash Bros. Sorry I don’t know why I felt the need to explain.
@@AtomicHaven yeah you really didn't need to explain that one
Best thing about this pun is you'd need to know how to pronounce Juan. Most I've came across here Australia just pronounce it as "joo-wan" thereby totally missing the pun.
Same with Cruz and other Spanish common surnames... "C-ruzz", lmao.
timestamp?
@@euclideanspace2573 I'm Australian also I haven't met too many people who can't pronounce Juan
“Hungrybox uses rest to make sure the community doesn’t fall asleep.” -Dan Fornace
hai
Accurate
MRT129 BUP sup
It's funny seeing this battle of puff and fox play out in the meta/comp. Anyone who's played Smash even back on the cart for even a little bit could see how dirty Fox was but there was always a Jigglybuff bro just waiting to pound furry ass. Keep pounding brother
Phrasing, hm…
Interesting word choice lmfao, “Just waiting to pound furry ass”
.just waiting to what
Keep doing what now?
i constantly find myself coming back to this video this honestly might one of be one of the more important videos i’ve ever watched and was a incredible introduction to a phenomenal community
Ah, yes...
The player
who doesn’t fit into the community
of a game that doesn’t fit into its series
which doesn’t fit into any established competitive game genre
The ultimate outcast, and the most handsome villain
Hero*
@@BobTheB0SS People villify him cause he doesnt play the community sponsored character pool. He isnt a villain of the community, all he's done is reveal how toxic and un-interested in change the community is.
@@BobTheB0SS Ironic.
Bob Reed people’s personal hero’s are different, don’t judge
@@BobTheB0SS you literally just proved the video's point. people don't like hbox because he proved that melee isn't a fast-paced combo fighter, it's a fucking party game.
Being considered one of the best players in one of the most legendary games ever and naming yourself “Doctor PeePee” is a godlike choice
based beyond mere mortal comprehension
Well, he changed his name to PPMD. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO~
He called himself that because apparently, when he was in grade school, he spilled orange juice on the crotch of his pants, and the other kids said "hey, you look like Dr. Pee Pee!" And so he stuck with that when he had to come up with a player tag
@@LordTerias Are you fucking with me, please tell me where you heard this. I need a primary source.
@@LordTerias lmao
1:01:47 After 3 years I finally realize that this was an Oppenheimer reference
theres one thing you can't replace is Hbox's popoffs. when he plays he plays like hes fighting ww2 and when he wins he celebrates like it was the end of a world war and he wins
he popped off on stream so hard he tapped out for a moment.
So far you've made me emotional about spongebob, WWE, NASCAR, 1 Russian guy and a dude who plays smash for a living, all of which I had no interest in prior too. That is a talent that I feel no one else on this earth has ever had.
@Adi Kancharla that'd be sick, a never ever about One Piece would be cool too.
@Shaman Xeed "Aren't I so edgy and cool by breakig the peace in an otherwise regular thread."
@@cai6972 I think DBZ would get a Never Ever instead. That show introduced Anime to the west for countless people and it's the show that caused a domino effect on western audiences to watch different kind of anime
Shaman Xeed
2edgy4me
The next should be about a video game series. Maybe GTA since it has the greatest games like Gta SA, 4, and 5.
This guy:
- Tolerated a whole community's hate for YEARS
- Solo carried an entire generation from dying
- Went against all odds and challenged everyone's opinions to prove them wrong
- Climbed up the ladder all the way from defeat to victory
- Consecutively won several tournaments
- Multi tasked between a career, a full time job and a competitive video game career
- Got the opportunity to be the featured protagonist of an EmpLemon's video
What a goddamn legend
And he still got hated for it. That's what happens when the community of a game exists of degenerate neckbeards who have never touched grass in their life
MELEE: Only 8 out of the 26 Characters are considered viable, The Players rely on glitches to win and not skill (which is why that one guy got beaten by a 14 year old), has no Storytelling, FOX ONLY FINAL DESTINATION, has ugly graphics, has a toxic fanbase full of fugly elitist incels who hate anything new or fun & will refuse to touch grass & shits all over Brawl. . . BRAWL: Almost all if not all characters are viable, The Players rely on actual skill to win, has an Epic Storyline Subspace Emissary, Players play on any stage they want with any character they want, has Epic Theme, has a Wholesome Fanbase with GIGA CHADS who are nice to other Players and do touch grass.
@@futurewario9591 NFT pfp calling other people incels cause of toxicity lmfao
Every smash community is a joke (well except back in the brawl days, I agree on that)
@@sicko5821 Yes. Melee Incels Virgins Elitists Fanboys VS Brawl Giga Chads Enjoyers Bros.
@@futurewario9591 neither of u have actually played melee or meet any top players have you....
One thing comes to mind for the whole story and situation:
"And they found you amusing for awhile, the people of this city
But the one thing they love more than a hero...is to see a hero fail, fall...die trying
In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you"
Wow this was one of the most beautiful pieces of video I’ve ever seen. Thank you for this. Your format and everything is so amazing
dude walked around with a raw crab in his pocket like it was his snack or sum shit
FAX like WTF who carries a crab in their pocket for a day
@@youraverageguy7842 Wait... that's not normal? Damn, I guess I should've known there was a reason nobody else complains about having to check their pockets for crustaceans before washing their clothes...
Err, I would guess that it was a prop, not a live crab. Unless you yourself were making a joke, in which case allow me to just woooosh myself
r/woooosh
#JustMarylandThings
Sif Based on this video, I think it was a live dead crab (pretend that makes sense)
Before this video: "lol Melee is so old, why do people still play this game"
After: "C L U T C H B O X "
Melee is the best game in the series dont @ me
@@mikemarks6136 lemme @ you to say that you're correct
@@JadeJuno I still own a gamecube specifically to play melee its amazing me and my brother still play it every night
@@mikemarks6136 Imma @ you to say I prefer ultimate but your opinion is completely valid and I respect you because your most likely not a serial killer or something else awful.
Mike Marks I’m starting to like the feel of melee more and more and I haven’t even battled a human yet. I wonder what I’ll feel if I start playing against other melee players.
As of writing this I’m also liking Ultimate less and less but maybe that’s because I’m not focusing on one character and get cheesed a lot more easily because of it. But maybe melee will be the same.
After thousands of hours of CZcams videos I can definitively say this is my favorite one of all time
Been seeing this in my recommended for a while now. Finally decided to give it a watch, wish I had sooner. 10/10
"You are trash in literally every other game"
Imagine a Brazilian criticize Pelé for not being good at tennis...
Imagine trying to trash talk Michael Jordan and your line is "you were trash in baseball"
Trotsky era um picareta what? I thought pele was mexican. RIP Pele
mucktheduk tru tho
Pele lives because eat Sopa de Macaco
@@WildVoltorb picareta é o caramba elé é bom pa porr
It’s actually ironic how everyone would be playing as Fox and once Hbox starts winning they start complaining about jigglypuff
What’s ironic is actually that jigglypuff shuts down more characters than fox, low tiers can hit fox pretty damn hard due to him being a fast faller. Puff shuts down peach, pikachu, ice climbers, virtually every character below game and watch. A good enough player can beat fox. To say puff adds variety is disingenuous, Axe didn’t win summit with pikachu because Puff was played over another fox, falco, marth, shiek. Axe only won cus he dodged Hbox in bracket
Luke Rose dude I get where you are coming from but saying that Axe “dodged” hbox is also not giving him enough credit. He won. While he had a good bracket to succeed in, it doesn’t diminish his win. You could say a player only won because they dodged for literally every player then. A victory is deserved no matter what type of bracket they have.
Michael Rubalcava I’m not saying Axe didn’t earn that tournament. He went off the entire time. His run was awesome, but had Hbox not gotten knocked down early he would’ve had a much lower chance of success. He’s taken like one tournament set against Hbox in his entire career
Luke Rose oh ok, I thought you were just saying that Axe’s win wasn’t as deserved because of hbox’a absence. I interpreted wrong, my b. I have just seen a lot of people say stuff about how so and so play wouldn’t have one because of another player, which I think is a terrible outlook. Sorry for that misunderstanding that I had.
They complain about Jigglypuff because the character has the reputation of being boring, not Fox.
This is such a good video and good story. I've never been involved in competitive smash bothers, but I've watched this video 3 times in two years. I keep coming back to this amazing story
Watched this over five times. Each time more epic than the last, despite me knowing what will happen. Great documentary.
1:04:56 "Before there were 4 others like him,"
"Now"
"Theres only *Juan"*
I know!!! Hahaha that was brilliant
Yeah I laughed 😂
Aw cmon
Hahahahaha
If only it were true. Mang0 fucked it up last year and juan had a slump. But that's melee, every body ebbs and flows
Fox Mains: *hard counters jigglypuff, spreads throughout the meta*
Hungrybox: *adapts through years of hard work and creating a new playstyle*
Fox Mains: J i g g l y p u f f n e e d s n o s k i l l
fox mains are fucking bawling rn
Fox Mains need to C O P E
HungryBox is the skill. Not Puff.
@@doggo7514 Somehow ppl Don't get it :(
@@AskTorin tf kinda name is hummelsund
I didn't notice how long this was until you were nearing the end.
Thank you sO much for giving us a documentary we all needed (at least I) needed. Gives all all the reason to cheer on for Hungrybox now, especially being a Latin American college student who has to put in 3x the work compared to everyone else :D
Out of the hundreds of video essays I've seen, yours continue to be so emotional and well written. I fucking love this shit bro
Melee is one of the most nuanced anime of all time
Facts.
the fucking documentary. makes it so much better
The documentary was bad
The fact that HungryBox was considered a villain at one point in this community while Leffen was a hero says a lot about it lol wtf
yeah this always has me like wtf lol
?? Leffen was THE villain for a long time.
@@cjkmelee He still is. False accusations make anyone a villian in my book. Guy named franchise did a lot of good videos talking about the smash community. Certainly got me up to speed on some stuff. Leffen kinda deserves a ban given what he's done.
Luckily people are finally starting to see Leffen for the scumbag he truly is while Juan is still chilling at the top.
@@NeiasaurusCreations doing criminal activities like zero is bad in my book
one of the best video essay i have ever seen, very awesome spaghetti
That is best documentary i have watched in years. Great story telling, editing and all round narrative. Even from a person who doesn't watch any competitive events, this was very fascinating.
Imagine if the guy throwing the crab was trying to hit mango instead
plot twist
@@thatonedude920 lol, would be fucking HUGE Plot Twist
that would've been an alternative universe's arc for mango rising from the bottom
@@thebreadguy5361 this tournament win was somewhat quite recent so it wouldnt make a difference in the past
Pog
I love how serious he sounds when he just says "Dr.PeePee" it makes it even more funny
its like summoning salt saying, Mr. Bean
andreww07 more like him saying 420blazeit
@@the_cat_squeaky4554 Or more recently Shivering Erotic King Banana
Don’t forget peepee MD lol
Professionals have standards.
He got the crab thrown at him because the guy didn't notice the box part of his name and gave him a snack
Emp, your videos are amazing!! I can't believe I missed this masterpiece. You're such a great essayist! I could hear you talk about rocks and you'd make them the most interesting thing in the world. Bravo 👏👏👏
"The Melee community sees Hungrybox how the rest of the fighting game community sees Melee."
That is the most scathing line I've heard today.
I don’t get it?
Please explain
@@yoshithebear7630 The Melee community hates Hungrybox because he doesn't fit in with what they think Melee should be. The FGC hates Melee because it doesn't fit in with what they think a fighting game should be.
@@zooker7938 thx
Fcuking wrecked
@@zooker7938 so wait hbox is technically a normal fg pro?
I love all of those serious gamer names and then just Dr. PeePee
Ikr
Careful, hes a god, he can see anything
I agree
Wang Wanggington
Mew2King, Mang0, and Hungrybox aren't serious gamer names either, really. Armada is the only God with a serious name. Keep in mind, this is coming from someone who's favorite smash player is M2K.
I had watched the whole documentary and was really easy to watch it. You made me look at a 1 and a half hour without getting bored.
Thanks!