TPS Potato Reveal #4 Diploids -Chaucha Amarilla Larga, Criolla Rosada, and Round Burgundy
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- čas přidán 22. 10. 2018
- A bit of a mixup while filming this potato reveal. In the end of the video you will see me weighing up some seedlings of three different seed lots, Doug Strong's Round Burgundy, Criolla Rosada, and Chaucha Amariila Larga. The first footage I took of digging some Round Burgundy and Chaucha Amarilla Larga was deleted accidentally (by me). So I had to go back and dig some more Round Burgundy and Criolla Rosada to get diploid potato reveal footage. The diploid potato genetics that I have been growing are mostly from a group of South American potatoes that used to be considered a separate species, Solanum phureja. They are now classified together with the rest of domesticated potatoes in Solanum tuberosum, but they have some very special characters that make them interesting, and difficult to work with in a high latitude growing environment.
These potatoes are very often completely without a dormancy mechanism in the tubers, so the tubers will begin sprouting even before the mother plant has died back. It is ideal to harvest them before the mother plant does begin dying back, to catch as many of them as possible before they sprout. I am attempting to select for individuals with more dormancy, but they are definitely a very short season sort of potato, with the peak of flavor and food value for only a month or two after harvest. In Columbia and Peru where this type of potato is grown they are often harvested as needed and replanted immediately, in areas where there is a year round growing season. Diploids of this type go by a variety of names in South America, some of the most common being Papa Amarilla, Criolla Amarilla, Criolla Rosada, and Yema de Huevo. Many of the names reflect the intense flesh and skin colors that they exhibit, and they can be stunningly beautiful. They also can be incredibly knobbly, oddly shaped and/or tiny and difficult to use in the kitchen. The compensation being outstanding texture and flavor, much more intense than anything available from common commercial tetraploid potatoes.
They also often have photoperiod adaptations that limit their ability to form tubers in long day conditions, so some seedlings won't begin tuberizing until AFTER the autumn equinox. This often leaves them almost no time to form anything before the end of the growing season in high latitude locations. I did not have that problem very much this season, but we had an unusually long growing season this fall.
If you want to grow potatoes like this, the best source for them in the US is Cultivariable.com. Bill has TPS for sale from this type of potato, as well as a limited amount of diploid seed potatoes available at certain times of the year. Highly recommended. www.cultivariable.com/catalog...
I also highly recommend listening to Cultivariable's Podcast, and I specifically mentioned Doug Strong's interview on the podcast and his system of growing diploids from "pull starts". www.cultivariable.com/podcast... - Jak na to + styl
The first one you cut was a perfect snowman.
Each hill is like a treasure hunt/ All usable but some better than others. Loved the deep yellow interior color. Still cant get over your so very roc
ky ground!
Such vibrant colours! Great harvest haul for diploids!
We have a few diploids available in Europe. Not in regular grocery stores, but in specialty shops. I guess they are mostly grown for fancy restaurants, because of the special flavour and texture.
The Scottish potato institute did some breeding with them and developed new diploid varieties with better dormancy and less sensitive to long day growing conditions.
I am just above the 60th latitude and have pretty long days in summer, but was able to grow Mayan Gold and Inca Bella. Will see how early they sprout in storage... so far all is good, but it's some more months to go. Hopefully their TPS won't throw too many early sprouting stuff or fussy photoperiod ones for me :) going to find that out next year.
I just ordered some heritage potato varieties from the Canary Islands which I will try growing next year. They might be diploids, but I don't know for sure yet. At least it's safe to say that they are very closely related to the first potatoes arriving to Europe. Grown by the farmers there since the first ships brought those funny tubers. Which is exciting. It will be interesting to see how they do with the photoperiod here. Guess I should plant them extra early to work around that... or build a cover to keep out the morning sun lol
I will be excited to see those next season Torp. I also grew this year a couple plants of two diploid lines from Canada that are adapted to long day tuberizing. I'm hoping I'l be able to cross them with these Andean diploids and change their schedule a bit. I had pretty good luck holding my diploids in the fridge last year, they do sprout a bit but they still were fine by planting time. I bet yours will still be useable.
Nice! I ate a bunch of potatoes that looked like these in Peru. When I was cooking them, I liked just simmering them whole in highly salted water and eating with butter or subsequently putting in a pan with hot fat and smashing them flattish, browning on both sides.
It's great to have a container of these cooked in the fridge and frying them up with eggs and whatever for breakfast.
You can grade out the tiny ones as a super premium creamer type potato. The little berry sized ones are awesome.
Beautiful tubers. We need more people breeding new potatoes from the wilder types.
I have a collection of seeds from cultivaruable and I'm trying to breed my own taters, last year I lost all my seedlings to a late spring frost but I'll just try again this year!
That black great whale was like harvesting Subterranean corn on the cob...
Those purple ones remind me of brussell sprouts. There sure are lots of them.
Hi, at first I was thinking that some of those potatoes would be hard to use. We generally don't peel our potatoes but even then brushing the soil out of all them eyes. But after you showed the ones in the bags they looked much better. The yellow colour looked very nice and it was nice to see the comparison with the Yukon Gold, it would be interesting to see if what happens to the colour once cooked. Good idea on the salt potatoes I had them for the first time in Syracuse and loved the flavour .
Yes, some of them are really hard to use. I was talking online with Bill Whitson about it and he says that some of the overgrown crazy tubers are actually an artifact of the plant being a short day tuberizer, but it was started very early and had too much starch built up so they start filling the stolons and other parts of the plant, and then start filling the tubers once the equinox hits so you get these kind of elephant man tubers.
Never mind all this experimentation. I have only ONE quest: what white(fleshed) potato can grow on the East of Hawaii? (Specifically, Pahoa Hawaii) as the only reference I can find is dated back to the 1800's and involved lots of nasty mettalic soil amendments. (Not sustainable). Any suggestions would be appreciated.
That 3rd batch of Round Burgundy was the weirdest spud I have seen. What would be the benefits of growing diploid commercially? What an interesting harvest so far. Thos knobby one seem like a pain! They look cool, but I have to peel stuff that I bring in that is a pain, and those would qualify!! Love the look of the inside of the second RB, I've never seen yellow with a band of purple in it! Thanks for having the Store potato cut and beside the diploids, I had no idea they were so vibrant. I shall be learning a lot from you!!
I grow a lot of diploids, they are fun to grow and usually very tasty. When you grow from TPS you will get a few that are too knobbly to be worth growing so you just cull them and not grow them again. They can be a pain to peel but the skin is so thin on them that you just give a quick scrub with a vegetable brush and not peel, even when mashing.
The main selling points for diploids are flavor, texture, and color. Yields tend to be lower, and they are in general more disease susceptible than tetraploids. So commercially it would be for the "gourmet" market, if such a thing exists for potatoes. I like having them around. They bloom amazingly and attract lots of pollinators to the potato patch, so I get better pollination in my tetraploids. Not that most people care about that sort of thing.
good idea with the veg brush Garden Larder. I need to try that, I've been meaning to get one.
These remind me a little of the Jerusalem artichokes I grow. You have to knock every knob off just to get the dirt around them. For all these i cube without peeling and roast with salt and oil. Keep the videos coming.
Sorry, but I want to clarify something. Are these potatoes the result of true seed grown seedlings in one growing season? I’m thinking yes, but I’ve never seen results like yours or even much of the other tps reveal videos. When I’ve grown out Tps I generally end up with literally nothing or with micro tubers at the end of season one. I think I’m making a mistake somewhere along the way.
Esoteric Ag, all the videos currently listed as "TPS Potato Reveal #" are from 2018 seedlings. I also grow seedlings that result in zilch, or microtubers. I wouldn't consider myself a TPS growing expert, but I do seem to have lucked on a halfway decent growing system. I think it is worth not starting them too early unless you have the ability to pot them into VERY large containers. Especially shorter maturity potatoes will tend to take being root bound as a signal to tuberize and die. With the Andean stuff this is basically not an issue, because they are going to sit there in the trays or whatever till the equinox before they bulk tubers. Late season potatoes are a lot more forgiving as baby seedlings. It is hard to grow earlies well, whichi is why my potato patch was green into the middle of October.
Oxbow Farm thanks for the answer! I plan to grow a lot of TPS plants next year, so hopefully I can have some better results!
@@esotericagriculture6643 I've got some seed for you. Still processing TPS right now.
Oxbow Farm 😄😄
Don't be too quick to rate a plant by the knobby tubers. one thing that can cause that is if you have a lot of rocks in the soil. if you haven't spent a lot of time pulling truckloads of rocks out of the soil you likely have lots of rocks.