Best Climbing Attachment Method for lone wolf custom gear double | Rope Mod| Amsteel| Daisy Chain
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- DIY methods to improve your climbing sticks are tested ( rope mod, Amsteel, daisy chain and traditional strap ) on the lone wolf custom gear double step #diy #ropemod #lonewolfcustomgear
When your in between daisy links, turn the stick toward horizontal. It will allow you to get in the smaller link, and when turned vertical, and weight is applied that stick is now locked good and tight. Works every time.
Gonna try that this weekend
You can also wrap the daisy chain around the tree twice on medium to small trees. Usually lands on a loop second time around, if in between on the first.
If you end up between 2 loops on the daisy chain, turn the stick to the side and then attach the loop. Return the stick vertical.
Thanks man I’ll try that out a few guys said that
Keep these videos coming brotha, I'm really glad you put this one together cuz the Lone Wolf double steps are definitely a set I'm fixing to own
thanks man will do for sure
I like most people prefer the most easiest way but that's not usually the most safest way. Also if you use the lock in the background, you can really see the difference in the stretch
Thanks for this. Been going back and forth myself and keep coming back to the regular buckle because I just feel like it holds the best.
Good deal glad you found it helpful
The Whitetail Experience 👍. Good luck this fall.
Byron with the amsteel “oh god” I lost it LMAO. Good video as always man.
haha thanks man... i really thought daisy chains were gonna be my method but been running 8mm this year on doubles and think ill stick with them for 2021
For the "daisy chain" twist or turn the stick so its oriented at "2 and 8" (clock face) so the stick is closer to the tree. Then choose the right hole and twist the stick back to 12 and 6. Give that a try ....
Another solid vid Byron!
Thanks man
Great video with lots of info. I'll be using the straps with my Hawks. thanks
good deal man thanks for watching
Glad you made this video I’ve been debating on some amsteel straps for my double steps. I think after watching this I’m sticking with my regular straps, buckleless without the versa button.
With those sticks having the buttons so high, as soon as the sag gets to the point where the rope crosses the point of contact with the tree, you have no pressure holding the bottom feet to the tree. If it goes above it will actually pull the bottom feet off the tree.
With the amsteel daisy chain, I wrap it 2 or 3 times the stick right above the versa button , then connect it to the versa button, super strong. Just wrapping it 3 times it holds great 👍
Might have to try that
go right above button, go just below its a bitch to get off. Great video.
I second what he said wrap the tubing twice then just put the open daisy chain hole on the tape and it sticks really tight.
Great video. Been looking for a comparison like this!
good deal glad you liked it
Awesome content Byron, just a few more weeks 🤙
thanks man
Daisy chain run it under the versa button behind itself and back around the button. Then feed it through one of the loops like a truckers hitch and pull tight. Finally put the closest loop over versa button. Sounds like a lot but it’s not. Many videos up on how to do this. Takes the slack out of the daisy chain makes it rock solid
Latitude outdoors has a great video explaining this. I feel like the daisy chain gets a bad rap without using this method
With the daisey chain, wrap the chain around the button, and it the end of the chain through one of the holes of the daisey chains and pull tight then put it on the speed button.
Really great info!
Thanks man
Awesome, Great info!!
Been thinking of this for awhile with the 1.0 setup. I do agree with the strap method with security to the tree, prefer 8mm(your 2nd pick) just so I can have a longer strap and less material in my pack. All preference though!
I run the hawk heliums and I like the buckleless method a lot with those. Can't really see myself trying anything else when the buckleless doesn't cost anything extra.
True most guys have the straps already
Good stuff.. just replaced the buckel on my Hawks with 9mm rope
Nice man hope it worked good
Did you use factory hawk speed button or upgrade to Lone wolf button?
@@justinvick1068 the factory hawk one.. I just got them and wanna test them out in the field more before I start doing all the mods u can to them. I just didn't like buckles so that's why I went rope
Can you send me the line for 9mm rope you purchased?how are you liking it?
@@justinvick1068 i do like it as option and its cheap .... amazon or google 8mm static rope for sale tons of colors and options. its cheaper than am steel or daisy chain. and seems easier to perform the loop system at attachment
I’ve been researching the past week on what I want to build out of my Amsteel that’s still in the mail. Several new ways are out there I’d like to know your thoughts. One is making the first section of the daisy a whoopsie sling to adjust the slack out. The other is something I found on a hammock camping video. Never seen it used for a stick attachment method but they called out UCR I think. Similar to whoopsie with much less wasted rope in my opinion.
couple new options still a big fan of the buckles cause its more surface area gripping the tree
@@thewhitetailexperience6055 100%. If I’m setting a stand and leaving it for the year there is no benefits to Amsteel or anything trying to save weight or quiet things down. I like the quietness of no buckles and I know there has to be a way to make it work and still be efficient.
I went with the UCR (utility constrictor rope) I think that’s the name. No slack, very close to working as well as a buckle
whoopsie daisy chains have the ability to take up the slack. you should try them.
How about packability? How do the straps wrap around the double step sticks and how do they then stack? The amsteel wraps up nicely and the sticks nest together tightly, but I too am leery about it’s ability to hold tight against the tree while 20’ up.
Using the straps and removing the buckles, does that shorten the amount of usable strap to where it limits what size of the tree you can get into?
Do another test with quarter turn with sticks than put on the loop. Can you also test out the versa strap since its flat.
Exactly. With the daisy chain, just turn the stick a quarter turn prior putting a loop on a button. You can easily gain at least one loop on the daisy chain with this method. Once loop is on, then return the stick to parallel to the tree and set it prior to stepping on it. That will make it very solid.
yeah i am going to mess with that this weekend some to make sure its not a better option
Do you prefer the 17” or 20” cable aiders for the double as you have ? I need to order but can’t decide. Have 4 double sticks as well
Great information thanks
Just curious is there any disadvantage to using a cam cleat i havent used sticks yet i still hunt out of a climber or i use screw in steps for my lock on but im building a mobile setup for next season and i couldnt imagine an easier or faster hook up then attaching a cam cleat to a stick especially when its cold outside you dont need great dexterity in your fingers im sure people already do this im just curious if theres any disadvantages that im not thinking of
Great vid
You should make a video how you pack your lwcg mini sticks on your stand with aiders I tried looking on their site can’t find anything.
4 minis 4 aiders
Any bending or flexing of the bolts? It looks like the bolts flex when you seat the sticks in slomo
Look at the whoopsie daisy from backwoods mobile gear if you like the daisy chain style
Solid
Can you post a video showing how you tied it with the strap and the speed button?
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@@thewhitetailexperience6055 thanks for responding! It’s the same for the double step sticks with those tabs on the sides of speed button?
if you replace the straps with 8 or 9mm rope, how long should the ropes be?
So I would say 6-8 ft. Kinda depends On the bigger trees u hunt but that gives u ball park
Wasn’t a fan of the daisy chains either. On paper sure sounds great, wrap around tree put speed button on loop. Reality, not that simple when ya get in between buttons and ya have to loosen up the daisy chain and then stick sags extra. Awful imo
Couple guys feel the same way
Those sticks dont bite period!!!