The Dark & Disturbing Tale of The White Witch of Rose Hall | Annie Palmer
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Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of Annie Palmer, a woman who in the 19th century became intimately associated with voodoo and witchcraft and subsequently became known as “The White Witch of Rose Hall.”
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Jamaica's best known literary fiction figure. She is real as Scarlett O'Hara or Lady Macbeth or Cruella Deville.
I’m from Jamaica 🇯🇲 we learn about her , and her house still there untouched .
Can you make a video discussing Nancy Ward. Nancy Ward was a prominent Native American woman from the Cherokee Tribe . Nancy was born in the Colony of Tennessee, British North America.
Also, I enjoy watching your videos.
I am Jamaican living in Jamaica and believe me when I say a lot of us as Jamaicans believe this story to this day 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Mi to hun it's not just a story growing in Jamaica knowing our grandparents and parents told us these 4 reason a lot of this stuff really did happen people want to go to rosehall and discredit what is being said or what we are Jamaican known as to be true our parents and grandparents carry knowledge and wisdom and stories with them help us understand atrocities that have been committed in our lands
@Barbie Blues smh what do you mean by your people🙄😏🤔🤨
@Barbie Blues I take it you're from the US. If so I'd say the same about your people. Every corner in the US is said to be haunted by some force or entity...lol. Americans are the most superstitious people I've ever met!
Go figure!
Was her power considered to be the reason she was never held accountable for her crimes of murder? & why was she called a "white witch" if she was evil? Isn't a "white witch" a GOOD witch? 🤔
@@gazajadebrown9866 I e seen some historians say that Annie Palmer never existed. Do you think that's just people denying things like that ever happened? Or she was just a symbol of a bunch of atrocities rolled into one person?
In the United States, there's a legend of the "melonheads". The doctor in the legend never existed, and hydrocephalic children wouldn't live long enough in the wilderness to reproduce (and experiments aren't genetic and aren't passed on) , but doctors DID experiment on handicapped children and adults dropped off at state run facilities, people don't like to talk about that. They created one person in a legend that represented all the horrible things that those doctors and nurses did.
Her nanny who grew her in Hati taught her African Voodoo or Magic her nanny was a black african who knew African black magic
My Mother is from Jamaica and told me stories about her. One story was she would use slave blood to keep her young and how she could take her skin of and that's how the slaves killed her by peppering her skin.
She sounds like Elizabeth Bathory and Madame LaLaurie in New Orleans 😱
@@gnostic268 Yes those two have a lot in common. But there is something to this action of using someone else's blood that dats back to Europe.
All mistruths, by superstitious natives
Thats not what i heard😭.
@@jennklein1917 Are we sure? There is something to using blood!
I am from Jamaica we read and herd about her so much she is a part of our rich héritage we read about her in school
That's VERY cool!!!!!
Wow!
Thank you so much for sharing with all of us.
I just found out that Johnny Cash actually wrote a song about her.
"The Ballad of Annie Palmer".
It's on CZcams...
Amazing what you can learn while trying to get to sleep.
Peace.♡
Ur so lucky ,anything of that nature is taboo in the schools over here in the states
Rich heritage??????
@@verenant4567 LMFAO... maybe you are unfamiliar with the definitions of rich and heritage. Look them up.
Years ago, I was given a gift of perfume from Jamaica called White Witch, very nice scent, I wonder if it was named after the White Witch of Rose Hall? Either way, great story dearie.
I like to imagine this quiet and private lady just living her life whilst the people around her are absolutely losing it over the stories they make up about her.
I'd let you entrance me into being yo' mistress. Wouldn't even poison you!
Same here.
Living her life being a slave master?
Totally my life.
I've heard these stories for years. People in that area are terrified of that place. No one wants to be caught on the grounds after dark. I don't know who is dismissing this as a tale. I've always heard it said that she was a terrifyingly horrible person in life and death.
Thank you. A spooky story I was raised with being from Jamaica. I was told she killed 5 of her husbands and had them disposed of through a secret passageway out to sea. I'm sure the story differs depending on who is telling it! ;) I actually still have the perfume White Witch which was very popular once upon a time. My uncle first gave it to me when I was young and then when I came to Canada, a friend managed to find a bottle online and gift it me.
🙂🙏🏾🙏
Fiction. The truth is out there. She was created by an author called Delisser.
🌸 I saw this on documentary where people got a fictional book confused with real history. The author used Rosa Palmer name but altered it to Annie Palmer. She had 4 husbands. That wasn’t uncommon back then.
Someone read a book called The White Witch of Rosehall by Herbert G. de Lisser it was published 1929 to people that couldn’t read themselves. Sadly the ones that heard it spread it like a rumour lol and the rest in history, pardon the pun. Technically it wasn’t history but data from a fictional book
Only 1
What does the perfume do?
Crazy she was raised by a nanny after the death of her parents. Back in England did she have family who couldn't afford to get her, or didn't care to get her? Or had no family, or they couldn't be found?
Good question!
I was nearly in tears when Nanny died, Bless Her, what a Kind Lady Xxx 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🍀 🗺️
Family isn’t always there.
Her family may have disowned Annie's parents for engaging in the slave trade.
@@crazydaisy4516 One parent was Irish, the other English. Irish and English didn’t get on back then so the families may have disowned her parents anyway.
Just an FYI, but no way is the portrait at the beginning is of Annie Palmer. That portrait is of a lady during the Queen Anne period, first quarter of the 18th century, possibly of Queen Anne herself
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Nope. It's not a portrait of Queen Anne herself. Certainly not by the cut of the dress.
@@anngcampbellbower4385 I think it's Sarah Churchill, the duchess who was bff's with queen Anne.
Well I googled it and it is not Sarah unless it's a close up of one pic I saw but it really does look like queen Anne...in fact that was my first thought also when the pic was shown..I thought that looks like queen Anne..well I googled Anne and I did not find that specific portrait but it resembles almost exactly the portraits of Anne that came up..the face, the hair, the style of portrait...maybe Annie just looked like Anne the queen.
I knew it. That's freaking Queen Anne's portrait. Thank you. I thought I was going completely bonkers.
I've seen numerous videos on this topic who are using the same Queen Anne picture.
Johnny Cash visited the Manor and wrote a song about it called The Ballad of Annie Palmer. It's a great song and worth a listen 👌
Johnny Cash owned it and stayed there frequently. 👍
Appreciate your sharing, love Johnny Cash's music.
@@wht-rabt-obj Johnny Cash home in Jamaica was Cinnamon Hill
FAR OUT,,,,,!!!! THANKYOU for sharing!!! 🤗 😊 🌬💨 🇨🇦🕊
@@Rdlrhome THANKYOU for sharing,,,,you have given me more interesting knowledge to look up ! 🌬💨 🇨🇦🕊
That portrait of the older Anne looks more like Queen Anne of Great Britain who died in 1714.
Thankyou for the upload.
I adore hearing about the White witch. I remember learning about her when I was really young and I believe it was a Johnny Cash song that raised the question when I was little.
Johnny cash actually owns a home not far from rose hall , he bought it because of his love of the story and the estate . He also donated to rose hall
Owned. Johnny ain't with us anymore.
I remember seeing this documentary about her on the History Channel it was entitled Haunted Caribbean.
Congrats on 176K! And to a great Sponsor! Thank you for another interesting, and so well told story. Loved the illustration video!
Thanks for making this interesting folk tale into another excellent 'Forgotten Lives' video.
I visited Rose Hall as an 11yr old and could not sleep for weeks afterwards.
The plantation house and grounds are so astounding that an intriguing ghostly history fits its grandiosity nicely and makes Rose Hall a must see for tourists.
Could you do Sam Sharpe please??
Great research as ever, will watch again and share.
I wish that Nanny had a name. 😔
Good wishes
As your Jamaican fan.I LOVE IT
I lived in Jamaica for a few year's and often visited Rose Hall the property is amazing and extreamly haunted.Thanks for sharing
I think Wide Sargasso Sea (the 1990's version) was filmed there. It's the prequel backstory to Me Rochester from Jane Eyre
@@citrusbutter7718 There were Indigenous people- Arawaks, Taino and Caribs who lived on those islands for thousands of years before colonization. They were victims of genocide from their enslavement and diseases brought by European settlers and African slaves which the Indigenous people had no immunity to. They have been entirely replaced by non-Indigenous people now. They're probably unhappy in the Spirit World too.
visited rosehall many times and yes it is Haunted💯
I’m so excited you covered this story!!!! We drove past the building on our honeymoon and I bought a book about it. It’s a horrible but intriguing story
I bought the book also . Visited there about 30 years ago. Pretty spooky house.
Total fiction.
Thank you for other amazing episode. I really enjoyed it. Thank you for your hard work and time making each episode so entertaining.
I grew up in the small town of Chaguanas, Trinidad in the 60s. There were no shortage of "nancy stories". My maternal grandmother had a ton of them! She was from Grenada and everything started while walking through a cocoa field in the late evening. Trust me on this...in broad daylight with the thick canopy, close spacing and deep shadows your imagination will run wild...adding a creature just ramps up the heart rate. Then there were the old women living alone...My mom grew up on the same street (Graves Street of all things) and she was old then and is the reason you held your pee until daylight. Oh the stories that were told. Then there were white crosses on all the windows and doors....and the string that latched the windows closed. Evil can work mechanical locks but cannot untie a bow. Yup...made for a fitful night sleep when your five. For some reason...everyone from an island other than Grenada were suspect and it was open season. My Granny Maud had a cuss in patwa for every demon out there armed with her puya (short machete). We feared nothing when she was around. My mother and father said it as just B/S...yet they had at least one personal story they shared. Perhaps the power of suggestions. Regardless of the fact the dates, times and events don't come close to matching up the stories in this video is still kept alive. Somewhere in all of it there is a bit of truth long lost. Don't get me started on pirates hidden treasures and when they grow tired of guarding it for hundreds of years. Yo ho ho...pieces of eight...
How interesting!
You really should consider penning a memoir. I know I would read it.
@@twistoffate4791 Thank you for your compliment.
@@terrancecoard388 You're very welcome
You say Nancy stories. In Jamaica, Anancy stories. Same stories i guess. Its the culture
Wonderful story! Thank you for another fantastic video 🌹🌹
Thanks for the fantastic story!
You prepared very well and gave a great presentation.
Thank you very much.♡
Thank you for bringing these forgotten lives into the light.
That house was also used in the movie "wide sargrasso sea".
I love your content!!! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos for us 😊
I love narrations by British, namely English speakers, but it's a bonus when the speaker isn't ethnically of the region. It's evidence that mankind is capable of assimilating - indeed behaving as the best of brothers. I still dream of a world that answers to that most coveted state: egalitie, fraternitie and libertie. And while total realization isn't likely, the trio aims infiltrate all pockets of the world, while fighting for sustenance where it is sadly taken for granted.
Thank you so FL!!! I genuinely enjoy both of your channels!! You are such a phenomenal individual!!!
He needs an OnlyFans.
Thank you for the upload, I truly enjoy your videos ❤️💕
Very nice and informative video! Well done!
Love the art work you've found for this
I believe it's possible she was a sadistic woman...slave owners could do anything they wanted to do to slaves without any fear of judicial involvement.
@Barbie Blues wow barbie, care to elaborate on why you would say that?
@Barbie Blues you seem a little triggered by his comment...
it's fiction!!
@@delilasloan8914 ....she's not gonna answer you!!!!
@@delilasloan8914 .....now now now Delila you have to give her enough time to think about it...& besides...that big word you used called (elaborate) is a very high hurdle for her to cross..lol😅
I am Jamaican and this is true. It is not a myth.
I luv your British accent. You are very handsome and did a very good job as your voice is beautiful.
It’s strange that people empathize with her when she was so cruel!
She has the complexion for affection
They PRAISE their women for acting like them.😊
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As a Jamaican I have always been fascinated by this story.
I think they didn’t like her because she of her background and made stories up about her. From what I’ve read of Annie, she would not treat slaves poorly. She also left much of the running of the Plantation to her husband and his men. The Rose Hall ghost is just to attract people. I was fortunate enough to go to Rose Hall for a private function and not only is it stunningly gorgeous, it is most definitely not haunted by Annie. If you ever get the chance, do see Rose Hall.
Yeah, I did some reading about her after the Ghost Adventures episode and apparently the whole business of her being a witch only came about when a writer used her and Rose Hall in his fictional book. And it probably doesn't help that Johnny Cash wrote a song about her.
So you visiting rules Hall once you have all this knowledge to say you visited once and it's definitely not haunted ok good luck with that I've been to rosehall many x and I most definitely can say that that place is Haunted and I do believe she treated States slaves atrociously that's a lot more facts Than Fiction
@@gazajadebrown9866 I never said it wasn’t haunted. I did say it wasn’t haunted by Annie. Reading a comment throughly before retorting with a rather rude comment is always best.
She was a slave owner and youve ever been to rose hall great house youll see things like catanines in the basement
@@verenant4567 Again, I never said it’s not haunted! Just not by Annie. The grounds are full of spirits as is the house. I never saw Annie once, nor felt her. It wasn’t frightening to me, just a bit crowded.
I have that old novel and it is a good old fashioned scary story. It is no surprise that over the years it became an urban legend.
What novel
@@ramonanaya6236 There is a novel and I took the liberty of checking on Amazon for you. It is still in print. It is called.....wait for it.....The White Witch of Rosehall. By Herbert Lisser. A fun and entertaining read.
@@lindakinsey4255 thanks!! I did a quick check on Wikipedia and i don't think they had any listed i appreciate it!! Def will have to get a copy
@@ramonanaya6236 my mother brought a copy to me when she went on a trip to Jamaica when I was about 11. I am 65 years old now, and I remember devouring it, as it gets into a lot about character development and voodoo and so on. I have reread it several times over the years and at some point, bought myself another copy. Hope you get it and enjoy it as much as I have!
FABULOUS, thanks so much 🤗
Love your channel!
So glad you're covering this story! I went to rose hall a few times as a kid. I was terrified, but loved it. I always thought "rose red" was a combination of this house and Winchester house in the USA. You always pick the coolest topics!!
Loved this video so much
Oh, Annie Annie, Even the Legendary Johnny Cash wrote about her, he lived there in Jamacia and was home invaded there, I was stunned when I watched a show about him that he told about it.
Can't keep those slave revolts down..........Actually you do have to be very careful in Jamaica and stay in the designated tourist sections or you will be both robbed or disappear permenately.
Thanks for giving me factual information on the Annie Palmer story. This past weekend was the first time I heard of this story and had to investigate more.
Love the stories ❤
Thank you!
Perfect time for a bed time story
Great tale ! But the facts show the truth. Also, the portrait of the single lady is actually Queen Anne of England, {1665-1714}. In modern day times is more popular for the famous furniture trend that is named for her support of the arts during her time on the throne.
That's a resemblance of Queen Anne & she not had her hair styled that way. The face is someone else's but not Queen Anne. You're projecting.
@@anngcampbellbower4385 After you take your foot out of your mouth, go look it up. You obviously think oil portraits are common during this period which you will needs at least a sophomoric level of reeducation on your part.
Love your channel thank you 🙏
That's a beautiful restoration of the property. Pretty amazing based on the picture of what it looked like in ruins!
Do more stories about Jamaica 🇯🇲
Please
🙏Happy you chose to cover a small part of our island's history 🇯🇲
Your videos are so well crafted, editing and delivery wise.. but could I make a small suggestion? Having a bit of background music would brighten the atmosphere a lot.
I've visited this place!! We both had chills walking though the plantion mansion! I'd love like to go back some day.
I remember seeing this on Ghost Adventures years ago. I just don’t think they went into depth and detail like here on your channel . This was quite a wonderful history lesson…. Thank You so much.
This episodes differs from most of the others, and it is very interesting.
I found this video very interesting and well done THANK YOU 🐩
The strangest version of "the Telephone game" I've heard
My Aunts sister went on a tour in Annie Palmers house. The whole time I had goosebumps and was cold and when we were walking up the stairs my aunts sister went pale and collapsed and said she couldn't go up there because it felt off. I went up there and felt like I was being watched the whole time or like observed. I just found out today I'm related to Annie Palmer. I don't really believe this stuff but I felt like someone was observing me or like trying to tell me they are there I know it sounds weird but yeah
IF you're Afraid of this BS, IT'S Because Of Mass Hysteria
I’ve visited Rose Hall. It’s absolutely beautiful and a touch creepy.
I think the legend of Mahsuri would be a great subject for your future videos. She was falsely accused of adultery by her mother in law while her own husband was off at war, was sentenced to death without proper trial, but before she died, she proclaimed a curse on the Langkawi Island, saying that the island would not prosper for seven generations. And indeed, after her death, the locals lost the war and was conquered and did not have much progress economically. Only after her 7th descendant was born in the 80s or early 90s did the island boomed into a bustling tourist attraction.
Beautiful house and interesting story!
Wonderful exploration of this woman's life. I do believe she has been maligned by time and predatory story-seekers. Thanks!
omg! My grandmother's estate was near her house in Jamaica! I could sit on the roof and see Rosehall!! I actually toured the plantation... It is super haunted and creepy. But well kept, like stepping back in time. Love this episode!
I’ve been obsessed with Annie Palmer since the first time I went to Jamaica ! I’ve been to her house a bunch and every time I go I feel so much more connected to her !
Blessed be!
Yet she did not exist as portrayed in the fictional novel by HG Delisser.
@@GwynethHarold She existed but the story was exaggerated.
@@nicolescott1354 Hi, yes, there was a woman who owned the house outright.
Thank you for telling the story
This was great.
You did a good job with this video and the research. Thank you. I believe that Annie Palmer was not even there long enough to be mean to anyone, or to be the white witch. Rose Palmer may have been that angry and sadistic given her childhood with a mother who practiced voodoo. It is hard to tell actually, why myths and legends take root. The murdered husband's are a sad tragedy.
Fiction created from pieces of our past.
It’s a folklore. I am a Jamaican and I grew up learning about Annie Palmer in Grade school, she’s part of our history. Maybe there are some truths hidden Within, we’ll never know. Lol. Thanks for sharing.
As a Jamaica I do believe her spirit lives and haunts till this day because of the frequent accidents that will happen right at the rose hall gate
Can you do a story on Freddie Oversteegen and her amazing life 💚. I love how you debunk so many myths about these women, thank you.
Will look into her!
Historical women: literally just existing
Historical neighbors: "she's a witch!!"
LOLOL This.
omg😍 had no idea Mortis media was this handsome! I kept waiting for the line "and let the darkness take control"
This guy is Mort's brother
i really like this channel
Johnny Cash wrote and sung a song about this legend
I really like your channel and your eyes are just beautiful...God bless.
Aw great story
''''Jamaica White'' was an awesome fictional account from the 1970's of Annie Palmer if anyone wants to read a good sex/murder/intrigue book. Was in the middle of reading it when my Mom asked to read when I was a teen............she took it away from me. Gave it back when I came home from from the Navy at 21 lol
As a person that has read books about the arts, and the story's how one wrong move can go wrong or even the wrong words and things can go wrong, one love spells can be bad especially if the one has a strong force dark one that is.
I've been obsessed with this after an old Ghost Adventures ep.
I knew about the White Witch from a young age, my Mum had a book on it I was too afraid to read! Didn't know about the Johnny Cash connection though..
sounds like some people actually believe it while others are likely just going with it because it is a tourist attraction. Honestly what does say a lot about her is that her nanny was most likely a black woman and yet she treated slaves and servants horribly. If she is cursed to be a ghost forever, she earned it.
looks like the whole thing was made up in the 1920s if you got to the end of the video and its more based on Rose not Annie
Why does it matter if her nanny was black?
What was a woman of the era to do? With no real rights, her fortune was tied to marriage. If she had knowledge of voodoo, why not use it to better her lot in life? No doubt she had witnessed that harshness of reality, not only for women, but for slaves. In a bid to survive, she did what was in her power to do. Unfortunately, history is as tainted with exaggeration as it is with truth. Being a ghost might not be the worst thing. If it's true, it supports immortality of the sole and Rose Hall ain't a bad place to spend eternity.
All hail NPC's and virtue signaling!!!
Caridad Chang you are spot on. That is Exactly what I was thinking!
Interesting...maybe you could consider doing witchy ones for October...next month!!🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
Can't comment on Annie Palmer because I don't know her nor had any occasion to meet her, but I do think there is more fiction than fact in those wives tales. I do like the way her mansion is furnished -- expensive, tasteful furnishings.
awesome
OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!
I am so excited to see something i am familiar with 🇯🇲🇯🇲
Thank you.
Thank you
Seriously these weeks be more enjoyable to listen to if there wasn't a commercial every minute
I really enjoyed this tale
As a child growing up in Jamaica, I was told that no one is allowed to be on the property after dark because she haunts the ground. One day one of my colleagues told me that their department plans to fly to JA and rent the plantation for a big event. I was shocked when he showed me pictures of them (all white) wondering about Rosehall at all hours of the night, without no fear. I laughed and commented how brave they were, but I wouldn't do it
I went and did a tour of this place a few years. It was pretty neat
U should start story like Sherilyn dale like don't look straight at us and speak like it's coming from your memory til your pictures start. Ur adorable and your voice is amazing for story tales. It would feel more natural thanks!
Or be a bit more animated
As with history anything is possible . I’m sure this was based on some truth. As a Jamaican I heard many stories but I never doubt that there is some truth. History can be changed to keep a persons image clean but it can not erase the truth.
My family went to Jamaica when I was little, in the mid 1970s, and we heard the "green dress; murdered by lover; haunts the master bedroom." Many years later, we went to Jamaica on our honeymoon, and heard the "white dress; murdered by slave revolt; haunts the grand staircase." Funny how these legends change over as little as 40 years, lol.
Sad how lies live on.
What a beautiful place though!
Great storyteller
I really enjoy your content and research on the topics you choose. Wish you would relay the stories more naturally though instead of reading a script as it tends to sometimes be a bit staccato and droning.
I have an open mind about these things!