The Dark Life of the French King’s Satanic Mistress | Madame de Montespan

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  • čas přidán 22. 03. 2021
  • Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of the Madame de Montespan the royal mistress of King Louis XIV who was involved in the infamous scandal the affair of the poisons!
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  • @ForgottenLives
    @ForgottenLives  Před 3 lety +115

    Big thanks to History Profiles!! Make sure to check out his channel! czcams.com/channels/eHXZZvfWxsIgs9s3U9wdIw.html

    • @ELKE-
      @ELKE- Před 3 lety +3

      Thank you History Profiles for your great narration. Look forward to your next upload! Good night

    • @fahrinurlaub01vg
      @fahrinurlaub01vg Před 3 lety +2

      I love that you do collabs! It widens the range of the channels, one can learn more than what we probably would with only one person working on here. And it always makes me look forward to you narrating again.

    • @englishcountrylife3805
      @englishcountrylife3805 Před 3 lety

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    • @ELKE-
      @ELKE- Před 3 lety +1

      @@englishcountrylife3805
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    • @fudge7545
      @fudge7545 Před 3 lety +2

      I'm confused. Why are the french names said in a Spanish pronunciation? Really heavy and thick

  • @jessicascoullar3737
    @jessicascoullar3737 Před 3 lety +1714

    Seems to be a device to lay all blame on the mistress while absolving the king. “No he didn’t commit adultery, he was bewitched by black magic...”

  • @phoe9182
    @phoe9182 Před 3 lety +827

    Can you imagine the day the king says "you have served the crown well here's your pay there's the convent "say hello to the other mistresses

    • @quester09
      @quester09 Před 3 lety +40

      probably not completely unexpected though

    • @AverageAmerican
      @AverageAmerican Před 3 lety +3

      You mean today? mhmm

    • @Lilianamarie999
      @Lilianamarie999 Před 3 lety +40

      At least she wasn't beheaded🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @torachan23
      @torachan23 Před 3 lety +8

      That’s what women do to their husbands today when they file for divorce and already have a new man

    • @janetgraham-russell4476
      @janetgraham-russell4476 Před 3 lety +20

      Sweet deal, really. Ladies didn't have to do the work of a common nun. And she had money. Even then, she may not havr taken vows.

  • @YT_HATES_FREE_SPEECH
    @YT_HATES_FREE_SPEECH Před 3 lety +1024

    Everytime he said Montespan it felt like going over a speed bump with no suspension

  • @rosehepworth3365
    @rosehepworth3365 Před 3 lety +838

    Of course the courtiers around the King would point the finger at his mistress out of jealousy, as if any woman had any choice to say no to the King.

    • @RookhKshatriya
      @RookhKshatriya Před 3 lety +31

      I doubt many wanted to say no, tbh...

    • @tfeya777
      @tfeya777 Před 3 lety +54

      Some women didn’t say no and others fought tooth and nail to reach that spot. It was a way to have power. Men achieved that power through was and women through who’s mistress they became

    • @helenturner3657
      @helenturner3657 Před 3 lety +8

      Hell, King James changed the wording of the Bible over a Gypsy woman...

    • @Squirreltasticqueen
      @Squirreltasticqueen Před 3 lety +8

      @@helenturner3657 fyi g*psy is a slur but it is the term that would have been used at the time.

    • @megancrager4397
      @megancrager4397 Před 3 lety +4

      @@helenturner3657 what? Can you explain?

  • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
    @reythejediladyviajakku6078 Před 3 lety +200

    Moral of the story: don’t become a mistress to a king

    • @raywilliams212
      @raywilliams212 Před 3 lety +32

      If he liked you it was basically suicide to refuse...

    • @elizabethsmith1803
      @elizabethsmith1803 Před 3 lety +3

      Her story is very similar to Lady Castlemaine’s - except Charles II was a far kinder man.

    • @alrune8
      @alrune8 Před rokem +2

      @@heyyyguuurl Then you'd better be very good and very intelligent, otherwise your place will be taken by another. Montespan eventually fell and was never queen, just a royal mistress and her old age was much less glamorous.

  • @kafkaesqui5874
    @kafkaesqui5874 Před 3 lety +836

    Is it so hard that a woman was simply so charismatic and smart that she climbed to the top of society accessible to her with her own wits.

    • @bloodorangemoon
      @bloodorangemoon Před 3 lety +85

      I know right?! She can't have just been that smart, she had to have had a deal with the devil. Typical.

    • @RookhKshatriya
      @RookhKshatriya Před 3 lety +65

      She was hardly at the bottom of society, in the first place.

    • @kafkaesqui5874
      @kafkaesqui5874 Před 3 lety +3

      Did I ever say she was ?

    • @ChamStar625
      @ChamStar625 Před 3 lety +35

      Smart and/or intelligent women get looked over all the time even to this day...she did what worked well for her.

    • @crazywanch101
      @crazywanch101 Před 3 lety +11

      Nah, impossible. Had to be the devil

  • @historyprofiles
    @historyprofiles Před 3 lety +252

    It was an honor to narrate on your channel thank you so much!

    • @f.d.5952
      @f.d.5952 Před 3 lety +2

      *: I "it is likely" that satanic rituals bewitched the king? This is maily a later added smear campain. Please keep this a channel of facts SMH

    • @kristineeuribe4357
      @kristineeuribe4357 Před rokem

      Oh wow. Yes I will come also to your channel. Good job on this story

  • @Ee-vahn
    @Ee-vahn Před 3 lety +127

    There's a novel "Angelique" which is set in the time of Louis XIV and the writers wrote about Madame de Montespan and La Valliere and many other characters. Angelique is a fictional character but some of the events and characters really happened and existed. So, it's a beautiful novel for those interested.

    • @yanstein8464
      @yanstein8464 Před 3 lety +10

      my mother and aunt have read those novels growing up

    • @mili.a.6410
      @mili.a.6410 Před 3 lety +7

      The movie starring michelle mercier was also pretty good

    • @michelepineau9657
      @michelepineau9657 Před 2 lety +3

      I have the entire series to date, but the final novel may never be published since the author died a couple of years ago. It's my favourite series.

    • @brendac7588
      @brendac7588 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for the recommendation.

    • @petravh4711
      @petravh4711 Před 2 lety +2

      @@michelepineau9657 Could you possibly help, please. I read up to her time among the indigenous people of North America/Canada. Did she die there or did she and her husband ever return to France?

  • @MsZoedog66
    @MsZoedog66 Před 2 lety +52

    I love it when someone is unpopular or does something to upset the status quo, they're a 'devil worshipper'. People don't change.

  • @PicoAndSepulveda
    @PicoAndSepulveda Před 3 lety +133

    The priest rebuked the kings mistress because she had scandalized all France with her adultery but the king was cool. Fascinating story. Just subscribed to both channels.

    • @Luigiawesome13
      @Luigiawesome13 Před 3 lety +7

      Who said the King was cool? The mistress actively sought repentance, which was denied since she was still living a publicly sinful life. Nowhere does it state the King sought repentance.

    • @ChrlMrsmamr
      @ChrlMrsmamr Před rokem

      ​@@Luigiawesome13 the king was cool

  • @benwil1715
    @benwil1715 Před 3 lety +178

    King Loui woulda loved the 1980's hair metal scene!!!!

  • @sachaeforest9205
    @sachaeforest9205 Před 3 lety +171

    As a native french speaker, let me just say that your pronunciation of french names is really good. Usually, non-french speaker a hard time with that.

    • @anamariabuzatu1368
      @anamariabuzatu1368 Před 3 lety +1

      il a dead ça

    • @AwfulDog1
      @AwfulDog1 Před 2 lety +7

      Actually since marrying a Parisian it has been made clear to me that the English have a lot of trouble pronouncing French unless they have lived there or learned well from native French. It is to do with the inflections the English put on words when the pronounce them. We do the same with Latin, apparently! I can’t win…

    • @mortenmoicmoigladys1236
      @mortenmoicmoigladys1236 Před 2 lety +10

      His prononciation is awful !!! Ta quoi dans les oreilles ?

    • @sachaeforest9205
      @sachaeforest9205 Před 2 lety +13

      @@mortenmoicmoigladys1236 Ce que j’ai dans les oreilles, c’est une bande d’anglophones qui, pour la plupart, ne font même pas l’effort d’essayer de parler un peu français malgré le fait que ce soit un cour de langue seconde OBLIGATOIRE. Les rare qui s’y essaie massacre tellement la prononciation qu’on ne comprend qu’un mot sur cinq et encore. So much for an official bilingual country. Alors oui, si un anglophones fait l’effort d’essayer de prononcer un nom français correctement et qu’on arrive à le comprendre, je considère qu'il se débrouille bien. Apprendre une autre langue est difficile. Surtout quand on est pas entouré de personnes dont c’est la langue maternelle.
      Mon commentaire original est un compliment et n’a pour but que d’encourager un créateur qui, de toutes évidence, met beaucoup de temps et d’effort dans la création de ses vidéos. Les critiques non constructive n’apportent absolument rien de bénéfiques à qui que ce soit. Si tu n’as rien de gentil ou d’utile à dire, je te suggère de ne pas commenter. Tu as droit à ton opinion, mais tu n’est pas obligée de la partager. La plupart des gens qui commentent ne cherche pas à déclencher des guerres et des disputes dans l’espace commentaire.

    • @ColonelNickSteel
      @ColonelNickSteel Před 2 lety +1

      Why didn't the French just speak english in the first place? It would've been easier for all of us!

  • @marleneg7794
    @marleneg7794 Před 3 lety +673

    Satanism in nobility? I think I'm going to die of not surprise.

    • @pauliedibbs9028
      @pauliedibbs9028 Před 3 lety +59

      Especially during the 1600’s...By this time, you can find “black masses” and the overall worship of an almighty cruel deity in just about every kingdom. Let us not forget Sabbatai Zevi, and how he singlehandedly corrupted nearly half the global Jewish population, specifically that in the year 1666.

    • @oaklandmade007
      @oaklandmade007 Před 3 lety +4

      Right! 😒 Wtf

    • @florentinaw1707
      @florentinaw1707 Před 3 lety +4

      Lol
      Ya ..... right ?

    • @RookhKshatriya
      @RookhKshatriya Před 3 lety +18

      Cagliostro, Compte St Germain and Casanova made a handsome living selling occultism to 18th century nobles!

    • @pauliedibbs9028
      @pauliedibbs9028 Před 3 lety +17

      @Trey Stephens No, that is something that came much later. Sabbateanism is what you would refer to it as, and it's basic purpose was to commit as much sin as possible, so that one may "bring themselves closer to redemption and hasten the coming of God"... It's creator, Sabbatai Zevi, even so much as proclaimed himself as the Jewish Messiah (in the year 1666), invoking much disdain from the Orthodoxy at the time..

  • @aamlam
    @aamlam Před 3 lety +530

    Typical dark age way of getting rid of women, literally, it gets them executed. Poor thing, she didn’t do anything wrong except allow the king to fall in love with her. People suck.

    • @crunchy3771
      @crunchy3771 Před 3 lety +57

      This woman is way more complex than that. She used nothing but her determination, intelligence and amazing fortitude to gain power, prestige and fortune. The very best part is when she got older and craved the quieter life, she stepped back. She got a great deal as she doesn’t have to deal with an old bastard like the King! She lived more freely and used her wealth to found institutions that served the poor and needy. She’s a hero.

    • @tfeya777
      @tfeya777 Před 3 lety +34

      @@crunchy3771 I don’t think she was a hero. I think she was trying to buy her way to forgiveness of a guilty conscience.

    • @mde3370
      @mde3370 Před 3 lety +15

      @@tfeya777 she wasn't lol she was desprate for another woman's man. She's gross.

    • @BowieBrooks
      @BowieBrooks Před 3 lety +2

      He probably was a jealous gay man

    • @carolweaver3269
      @carolweaver3269 Před 3 lety +7

      It all goes back to Adam and Eve. Adam blamed Eve ' The woman, that YOu gave me, she made me do it" Then she said " Satan made me do it *Lucifer* and she was correct he did. He knew how to wind her around to another kind of thinking. Yet all the time he knew better and it would end up in death, *physical, and even worse, at that time in history* and so being kicked out of the Garden Of Eden" and pain in childbirth and men /women working until the death." Under sweat of their brow"
      Satan does not always need to work. Satan hires in any way possible those who will do his bidding. His words are sweet as honey, and yet will kill with the being way too sweet.
      It all winds back to the beginning of time. Yet the woman was part of the man taken from his body, She was from the rib of man. Jesus never treated women second class though and was trying to teach men how to treat them equally

  • @jamesagwe2981
    @jamesagwe2981 Před 3 lety +110

    I've just found out she's my ancestor through my grandmother on my father's side

  • @thejudgmentalcat
    @thejudgmentalcat Před 3 lety +143

    That's how they portrayed her in the TV show "Versailles"

    • @ryanong3517
      @ryanong3517 Před 3 lety +11

      That was a good show

    • @evieluvon5965
      @evieluvon5965 Před 2 lety +4

      Yay looks like I found something new to watch!^^

    • @delilasloan8914
      @delilasloan8914 Před 2 lety +3

      Versailles was a great representation of Louis life I thought. I wish they would have continued into Louis the fifteenths reign with Madame depompador and his sister mistresses before her and of course dubarry..and then Into Louis the sixteenth and Marie Antoinette and even the revolution and when Napoleon stayed at Versailles ..Josephine had Marie Antoinettes old rooms and she said they were haunted by Marie Antoinette wanting her out of there ..

  • @lordnelson2.069
    @lordnelson2.069 Před 3 lety +257

    Sounds like a normal day in Hollywood

  • @wendychiwawa2819
    @wendychiwawa2819 Před 3 lety +25

    Brilliant but the way you kept saying “Motespa” laughing so hard 😂

    • @delilasloan8914
      @delilasloan8914 Před 2 lety +2

      It was the correct pronunciation of the name..have you ever heard a native french speaker..there is a lot of spit involved in that language

  • @Imeraldgyrl
    @Imeraldgyrl Před 3 lety +32

    This woman must have intimidated a great many people, for such incredible tales to be told.

    • @alrune8
      @alrune8 Před rokem +2

      Her power was entirely linked to the king. The moment she fell from favor, she lost everything and faded in the background forever, like she once did to La Vallière. What goes around comes around.

    • @lebou9540
      @lebou9540 Před rokem

      @@alrune8 Her legitimized children went on to marry into other nobility and royalty. The royal families of Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg, Italy, and Portugal descend from her. "Lost everything" is a stretch. Plus, she was still wealthy enough to be charitable at the end of her life.

    • @alrune8
      @alrune8 Před rokem +2

      @@lebou9540 Indeed, but she no longer had the influence and power she once had.
      Her children are a whole different subject since they were legitimized.

    • @lebou9540
      @lebou9540 Před rokem

      @@alrune8 I see but her children were an extension of her influence. That the King legitimized them and made sure they were set up well to carry on his legacy (and even considered her sons for the line of succession to France had his great-grandson not succeeded the throne) shows the power she had over that situation. The "Affair of the Poisons" was basically a conspiracy against her. In the end, she won and so did the King's second wife.

    • @alrune8
      @alrune8 Před rokem +1

      ​@@lebou9540 She would have won if Madame de Maintenon didn't exist. She still fell from grace and, despite all the rest, she sill had to recoil and fade in the background whereas Mme de Maintenon became the de facto new queen after the queen's death.
      Plus, Madame de Montespan's political power was REALLY limited since she didn't care much for it. She was way too frivolous and whimsical to have any bearing on geopolitics or anything serious of the sort. Her influence was much more on the arts and social mores at court than anything else.

  • @jasonflorence127
    @jasonflorence127 Před 3 lety +225

    Sounds like she was a woman who was strong willed and knew what she wanted in life. Of course history would vilify that type of woman, sadly. History is told by the winners and usually only one side of the story, especially with royal families.

    • @melikey3758
      @melikey3758 Před 3 lety +18

      Not necessarily, lots of women who were strong willed have been remembered as heroines. Cleopatra, Elizabeth I, Joan of Arc, etc. Lots of people that didn’t “win” in that historic moment have still managed to tell their stories through other means.

    • @Jaderabbit3485
      @Jaderabbit3485 Před 3 lety +4

      Well yes and no, she's a gold digger but you can still be a smart gold digger who does good things with your money and influence.

    • @jasonflorence127
      @jasonflorence127 Před 3 lety +12

      @@melikey3758 not really. All we have are writings and stories and they are not from them... it was part of their story. Like Joan of arc.. one of my fav women.. her story was written and told through the Catholic Church. We all know how that ended.. they used her and then accused her of being a witch and burned her. Cleopatra prob had every right to try and kill who she did, but again, her story was written by the “royals” of that time. Sure people who idolizes those women you mentioned told their stories like we do today... but historical written accounts from their point of view are non existent and if they do exist please tell me Simon an read them.. I would love to read them. So again even though some women have “a story” told about them doesn’t mean it is truth and we have no idea of their side because we don’t have any writings from them that I am aware of.. sooo

    • @jasonflorence127
      @jasonflorence127 Před 3 lety +19

      @@Jaderabbit3485 gold digger.. ha.. I’m not a woman but I could only imagine what kind of life women had back then especially if your not royalty. She did what she had to do with what she had... HER WITS AND A CHARMING PERSONALITY.

    • @Jaderabbit3485
      @Jaderabbit3485 Před 3 lety +6

      @@jasonflorence127 yes, with her wit, charm, and influence she began a relationship with an incredibly powerful man who gifted her with more influence and money she would use later in life. I'm not saying she's not interesting or charming she very likely was and that helped her become head gold digger to the king of France i.e. Official Mistress. I'm not saying she's good or bad, I'm saying that she isn't being vilified as a strong woman, she was vilified because of the position she held that probably spawned jealousy and the ironic blasphemy of being official mistress while still married

  • @saintmelanin1779
    @saintmelanin1779 Před 3 lety +14

    Every time he said “Montespan” an Angel gets its wings! 😫

  • @jannepetersen4660
    @jannepetersen4660 Před 3 lety +49

    The French court has bin a long tail of scandals and horrible gossip, and the French kings were almost drowning in women, because specially the French kings were very strong leaders, nobody dared to confront.
    It must have bin a difficult time for poor and rich, because the population was living under a very sharp heal, thats why everything went bananas during the French revolution, where people simply had it for good....

    • @vapidrabbit198
      @vapidrabbit198 Před 3 lety +2

      i think most courts were like that at that time. the king (or in some cases, the queen) was always above standard norms and often had open extramarital sexual relationships....... i think it was actually kind of expected.

  • @raoulduke344
    @raoulduke344 Před 3 lety +291

    Narrator sounds like he holds his nose every time he says "Montespa" so it sounds funny.

  • @pascalswager9100
    @pascalswager9100 Před 3 lety +217

    She said that to save herself for sure, the old woman I mean. I reckon it was all vicious rumour.

    • @lloydchristmas4547
      @lloydchristmas4547 Před 3 lety +4

      That's exactly what I was thinking.

    • @shardaswitzer8271
      @shardaswitzer8271 Před 3 lety +6

      Dnt be so naïve

    • @richardhome1931
      @richardhome1931 Před 3 lety +3

      I think you're right rumors are often told by women who are trying to compete with said person or a man who can't win her affection.

    • @richardhome1931
      @richardhome1931 Před 3 lety +3

      Also since she was high status was probably spread to soil her chances of advancement

    • @pascalswager9100
      @pascalswager9100 Před 3 lety +1

      @A. E. Harrison He died for all Our sins mate!

  • @Me16768
    @Me16768 Před 3 lety +265

    “The King’s Official Mistress”
    - Welcome to France!

    • @fan2jnrc
      @fan2jnrc Před 3 lety +2

      @Barbie Blues There was NO position of "Official Mistress".

    • @hej8606
      @hej8606 Před 3 lety +17

      @@fan2jnrc There was, there were official rules the mistress had to follow and there were rooms specifically for the holder of the title, just above the King's quarters (or below I forget haha)

    • @delilasloan8914
      @delilasloan8914 Před 3 lety +17

      @@fan2jnrc are you serious? There was an absolute position for the king's mistress and she had more pull then any other woman at court, generally including the queen..marie antoinette had so much pull at court because her husband had no mistress...these women led some of the most interesting lives in history.

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek Před 3 lety +1

      Delila Sloan the mistress generally had more pull than the queen? why, because everybody assumed that she who shags the king had more power over him than she who births the king's kids?

    • @charlottemunday7311
      @charlottemunday7311 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Ass_of_Amalek Normally wives were selected for political alliances so no love was involved, mistresses were chosen by the king himself and sometimes remained friends after the sexual aspect was over (like madam de pompadour)
      Now whos opinion do you trust more? A foreign princess who will still have loyalties to her own country or your girlfriend who does not interfere politically? (Some did but many did not).

  • @marie-heleneleclerc3181
    @marie-heleneleclerc3181 Před 3 lety +58

    From what I read from French historians who studied the Affair of the Poisons, Catherine Monvoisin did not give the name of Madame de Montestpan. Once she was executed, her daughter, who was terrified by her, started giving names to La Reynie and his men, among which Madame de Montespan's.

    • @juliie007
      @juliie007 Před 3 lety +19

      From what I gathered reading about the affair of poisons was that many of Catherine Monvoisin’s clientele were women of the bourgeois class in abusive marriages that wanted freedom from their husbands. However, France was mostly Catholic and divorces were rarely granted. I may not agree with Catherine’s methods but I understand the desperate situation that some of these women were including madame de Montespan using aphrodisiacs to avoid losing the king’s favor coz it meant having no power and becoming irrelevant.

    • @groovynipple7092
      @groovynipple7092 Před 3 lety +16

      @@juliie007 Yes, I agree with your sentiment. I have studied royalty and aristocracy quite extensively and I’m convinced it was more dangerous to be a part of the aristocracy than it was to be a peasant in a lot of instances. The stuff they did to each other was mind blowing!!

    • @groovynipple7092
      @groovynipple7092 Před 3 lety +10

      @Ms Bliss I’m just talking about how treacherous the aristocracy were to each other. It was unreal! Yeah, they definitely led the high life but you could be beheaded at any minute or worse because someone higher up didn’t like the look of you. Also, god help the women being married off as pawns. Crazy. And, say you’re a lady in court, you gotta do whatever a higher up, like a duchess, says to do. No matter what! Like you’re a child and she’s your mother. Just seemed like pure insanity and absolutely fascinating to me!

    • @wotchermystic2335
      @wotchermystic2335 Před 3 lety +11

      @Ms Bliss She didn’t kill any babies. Black masses were invented fantasies of priests to scare the populace into piety.

    • @captainbananapants7211
      @captainbananapants7211 Před 2 lety +4

      @Ms Bliss this sounds so Intriguing where can I read more about this ??? And seems like a lot of people don’t realize how the occult has always existed among the elite society !!

  • @Lilianamarie999
    @Lilianamarie999 Před 3 lety +27

    So they really just kept naming everybody Louis 🤔
    Also, I know men are relieved they don't have to do the stupid duel thing anymore

  • @reneemanzoor746
    @reneemanzoor746 Před 3 lety +29

    That king Louis IV sure had 1980’s hair metal hairdo.

  • @sharonbowers9929
    @sharonbowers9929 Před 3 lety +24

    Her actions do not match the accusations. Sounds like jealousy.

  • @stacyrussell460
    @stacyrussell460 Před 3 lety +12

    Well done History Profiles for the superb narration. Many thanks. Fascinating video & story. Cheers!

  • @arabicempress
    @arabicempress Před 3 lety +7

    Perfect! Just in time before going to sleep! As always the best Forgotten Lives!

  • @solitario7713
    @solitario7713 Před 3 lety +14

    I love these vids. You are a genius. The music in the beginning, the way you do this is exellence

  • @ralexandra1058
    @ralexandra1058 Před 3 lety +21

    Realistically... she probably didn’t do any of this. This is just the account of jealous women and superstitious men.

    • @alrune8
      @alrune8 Před rokem +4

      Chronocentric morality doesn't work. It was a completely different era, a completely different time where people were completely different.
      She did all that. Maybe not to the extent she was accused of, but yes she did partake in Black Masses.
      Desperate people do desperate things.

  • @marieveasley8382
    @marieveasley8382 Před 3 lety +22

    It's funny that a lot of the names black women give they're sons actually belong to other origins like the french german italian etc

    • @dancingnature
      @dancingnature Před 3 lety +8

      Some of that was because of racism , some USA Black people gave Hispanic names to especially to boys in the 50s to disguise their race. Hispanics were abused a little less than Black people were. French names were popular too but that was a 50s fad .

    • @widowrumstrypze9705
      @widowrumstrypze9705 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dancingnature That is a *very* astute observation!

    • @jessicawade8091
      @jessicawade8091 Před 3 lety +5

      And so ironic that some white people; who don’t know names origins, make fun of those names.

  • @Up-To-Speed
    @Up-To-Speed Před 2 lety +14

    After listening to her biography, she actually sounds like a very kind person - definitely not someone that can engage in human sacrifice and such!

    • @SuperSPatrick
      @SuperSPatrick Před rokem +3

      Or like someone guilty of doing horrible things so she tried to counterbalance it by doing good deeds. Like Jimmy Savile.

  • @ELKE-
    @ELKE- Před 3 lety +15

    Thank you FLives for this great video! Loved the pictures and background music. Amazing narration from History Profiles. Thank you Ollie!

    • @ForgottenLives
      @ForgottenLives  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks as always!!

    • @ELKE-
      @ELKE- Před 3 lety +2

      @@ForgottenLives
      Good morning FLives! You are very welcome! Thank you!

  • @AG-sy3lx
    @AG-sy3lx Před 3 lety +10

    Omg thank u so much I've read so much about Madame de Montespan and ur like my favorite channel thx so much!

  • @ChildfreeMatto
    @ChildfreeMatto Před 3 lety +57

    Forgotten Lives a lovely change with History Profiles narrating in this video. Wow! He did pronounce those French names well, I will be completely tongue-tied. 🤪 I love the all the content you publish, never a dull video. 💯💯

    • @enlilw-l2
      @enlilw-l2 Před 3 lety +16

      Excuse me but as a French person, pronunciation was awful...

    • @Jumpoable
      @Jumpoable Před 3 lety +7

      Great video content indeed, but you clearly don't speak French...

    • @chicawhappa
      @chicawhappa Před 3 lety +1

      @@enlilw-l2 Yes, gave me a headache. Better if he didn't try so hard to "sound French". Anyway, it's a free planet and I'm not French. 😊

    • @enlilw-l2
      @enlilw-l2 Před 3 lety +1

      @@chicawhappa Of course it's a free planet, but when you make a French history documentary you should at least learn how to pronounce what you're talking about if you want to sound french. Or pronounce these names with your native language accent, it would have been better.
      It sounds like he's trying to speak Italian to me, we don't roll R's like that 🤔

    • @twinklefire7241
      @twinklefire7241 Před 3 lety +1

      The French pronunciations were physically painful. Would have been better to just Anglicize them, instead of butchering every third word.

  • @sugarcatful
    @sugarcatful Před 3 lety +32

    I suggest watching a series called VERSAILLES.
    You can stream it. Her character and the actress playing her is super cool.

  • @matthewwaters5317
    @matthewwaters5317 Před 3 lety +2

    Brilliant, Two of my favourite channels, I missed you FL but HP you did an amazing narration on this one

  • @Agapy8888
    @Agapy8888 Před 3 lety +17

    Excellent story. Great narration Ollie..

  • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
    @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 Před 3 lety +195

    I'm female and no man is worth all this

    • @stephanielim5544
      @stephanielim5544 Před 3 lety +22

      Lol, you'd be surprised how vicious women also are when they see a threat. Especially if they saw another woman who is more beautiful and most favoured among them all. Sure men act in a perverted way as usual but women who see other women as a threat would viciously destroy you physically and mentally. So stop glorifying women as if we are saints.

    • @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
      @cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 Před 3 lety +2

      @@stephanielim5544 I know they are and they all your best friend too, my little sister had these as friends too. that hurt me so much she would never believe me she thought I wanted her trash. and they were just that she only had one decent guy and when she found out he was she rid herself of him except the kid only for child suppost

    • @SmartStart24
      @SmartStart24 Před 3 lety +15

      @@stephanielim5544 and why do you think women act that way? You think it would happen if we lived in a vacuum of just us? Probably but to a way lesser extent. Men are the ones who come up with the (damn near impossible) standards all women are supposed to live up to. The toxicity between women that ensues is avoidable but not altogether unexpected in these circumstances.

    • @stephanielim5544
      @stephanielim5544 Před 3 lety +22

      @@SmartStart24 as a woman we need to take responsibility of our own actions and stop blaming men. You lot always said that we are independent and strong even without men for husbands, so why should we bother of how high mens standards are when they don't even force their standards on us? (And same goes for the men) And by doing that you would willingly destroy another woman's life? Instead of justifying this toxicity why not tell our sisters to grow up and be the strong women that we are claiming to be?

    • @manda.watching.YouTube
      @manda.watching.YouTube Před 3 lety +7

      Human, no human is worth all that. Male female is irrelevant. We’re all just people.

  • @berenicewaters4096
    @berenicewaters4096 Před 3 lety +5

    What such a nice surprise to have History Profiles! A interesting story indeed!

  • @sharonjoan5828
    @sharonjoan5828 Před 3 lety +3

    Yay i love this channel! finally i came across a channel of vintage history. Your narraration and the information is awsome. And you pick really interesting stories to tell. Ty. Keep up the Good work we appreciate it!

  • @meekonaleash
    @meekonaleash Před 3 lety +12

    Love these videos!

  • @marinakaiser7639
    @marinakaiser7639 Před 3 lety +10

    Thanks Ollie as always great story 😊💗💗

  • @j.taylor3670
    @j.taylor3670 Před 3 lety +1

    Always so interesting and well press, both the narration and the illustrations.

  • @jamiemohan2049
    @jamiemohan2049 Před 3 lety +19

    Thanks for this vid. Always thought it odd how she isn't more well known. All other documentaries on her are in French.

  • @vampirequeen953
    @vampirequeen953 Před 3 lety +67

    Given that she was the King's "mistress" so to speak she was living a very scandalous life but I'm sure she lived a very interesting life as well...

    • @joshuapearce2721
      @joshuapearce2721 Před 3 lety +11

      Hardly scandalous, as in France it was pretty much an official possition

  • @johannymilord3371
    @johannymilord3371 Před 3 lety +5

    Thank you for sharing this.

  • @chrystalp3086
    @chrystalp3086 Před 3 lety

    I'm happy I found this channel. I've been binge watching it :)

  • @whatsaryn
    @whatsaryn Před 3 lety +1

    Love learning about her!! And I looove this channel 😭

  • @jazzymoni7750
    @jazzymoni7750 Před 3 lety +12

    Chile, it sounds like she put a root on her husband and made him lose his mind when he went back to the military where he abducted a whole woman then had to flee to Spain. The esoteric drama of it all!

    • @victoriadiesattheend.8478
      @victoriadiesattheend.8478 Před 3 lety +3

      I'm telling you. I believe that. Things went just *a little too well* for this lady, for her entire life.

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 Před 3 lety +13

    Such an informative yet engaging channel 🥰

  • @vagarnaldcoochischmidt1910

    Entertaining, concise, great imagery my pal. Overall, great job 👏

  • @matthewnace8473
    @matthewnace8473 Před 3 lety +6

    I’ve got two things:
    1.) Probably a lie so they could have an excuse to toss her off.
    2.) In the show Versailles, which I know is dramatized for plot, she got him through her charisma and planning. She didn’t turn to the satanism until the end of their relationship when she thought she would lose him.

  • @loveshighermind2879
    @loveshighermind2879 Před 3 lety +2

    Such a different account from mainstream literary historians. I must look into this. Thank you

  • @WobblesandBean
    @WobblesandBean Před 3 lety +8

    Poor woman. Any time a powerful woman was blessed with beauty, charm, and wit, she was accused of being a witch and executed. Sigh.

  • @picklerick.n.666
    @picklerick.n.666 Před 3 lety +1

    Big fan of your great videos and awesome narration, keep up the great work 😁😁😁

  • @janetcw9808
    @janetcw9808 Před 3 lety +13

    I'm actually awake to get this, Greetings!

  • @jewell92
    @jewell92 Před 3 lety +12

    Good idea, Forgotten Lives. Ollie manages those languages very well. Thanks!

  • @redacted9506
    @redacted9506 Před 3 lety +7

    9:40 I’m sorry, but are we all just glazing over the fact that Montespan’s disgruntled husband rejoined the army, kidnapped a girl, and attacked people with a gang of his dudes? I am going to need some elaboration

  • @WWZenaDo
    @WWZenaDo Před 3 lety +13

    Sounds like the poor lady was pretty and popular (especially with the men) and was therefore slandered by the cattier elements at court. Either that, or it was a fun convent where she was schooled!

  • @claudialesage5577
    @claudialesage5577 Před 3 lety +1

    Superb video I could listen all day long

  • @ArisEmriis
    @ArisEmriis Před 3 lety +13

    After all the information we now know about her, I find it highly unlikely she was actually a Satanist. My thought is... Hard to be a lady who is a player in the 17th century, just like today. When a woman is beautiful , intelligent and a charmer, there is always going to be people who wanna throw shade on her. And even if she did anything really awful, sounds like she certainly strived to make up for it! Thank you for such an intriguing story!!!

    • @cousinsister69
      @cousinsister69 Před 3 lety +1

      Beautifully put. I agree with your surmisal. From an Ossie 👇💜🙃

    • @ArisEmriis
      @ArisEmriis Před 3 lety

      @@cousinsister69 Hi thanks! And blessings from Seattle, USA! 💖🌷👼

  • @entj5315
    @entj5315 Před 2 lety +4

    Oh yes, what a wonder that a woman who's been tortured would just so happen to mention the name of an unpopular public figure. All things considered, I bet everything was a made up scandal used to ruin an influential female figure such as the case of Catherine the Great. Idk what they should expect of Louis and Francoise if they weren't allowed to choose their partners. Most marriages of the day were arranged, so they were simply making the best of a screwed up situation

  • @janicepenavelilla6223
    @janicepenavelilla6223 Před rokem +1

    Thank you pronouncing names correctly with the right inflections👌🏽👍🏽🎉👏🏼

  • @auroramariealmeara8622
    @auroramariealmeara8622 Před 3 lety +4

    Waited till midnight to watch... And here we go

  • @lu5914
    @lu5914 Před 3 lety +5

    i love this channel and history profiles. i recommend them to everybody! have either one of you guys done a story on madame de pompadour? she is one of my favourites!! love you bunches!!~ LuAnn

    • @ForgottenLives
      @ForgottenLives  Před 3 lety +2

      I have done a video on her already!

    • @lu5914
      @lu5914 Před 3 lety

      @@ForgottenLives i thought one of you guys had but couldn't remember. i suppose i coulda just checked-lol- this was a great video btw! xx~ LuAnn

  • @chewyourmilk
    @chewyourmilk Před 3 lety +8

    Love your channel found you from Brief case

    • @applejellypucci
      @applejellypucci Před 3 lety +2

      me 2

    • @chewyourmilk
      @chewyourmilk Před 3 lety

      @@applejellypucci hi April, what other channels do you enjoy? I like true crime, have you tried mysterious WV? (West Virginia)

  • @wendymudkins6870
    @wendymudkins6870 Před 3 lety +1

    Once again loved this video brilliant and detailed story of this interesting woman's life thank you

  • @Koko________
    @Koko________ Před 3 lety

    I love your channel I’m so glad I found it

  • @pinklady3885
    @pinklady3885 Před 3 lety +6

    I just loved your pronunciations... perfect! I have heard this story recently but not as detailed and narrated as yours. Thank you😘

    • @jackiebayliss
      @jackiebayliss Před 3 lety

      The narrator has his own Channel called History Profiles.

  • @fungiamogi1344
    @fungiamogi1344 Před 3 lety +7

    I love your intro. It reminds me of a 90s educational video

  • @makeupboss3568
    @makeupboss3568 Před 2 lety

    Interesting and informative. Thank you

  • @elizabethspedding1975
    @elizabethspedding1975 Před 3 lety

    A great way to start the day, a great video and coffee.☕

  • @carmencollor1224
    @carmencollor1224 Před 3 lety +9

    The whole thing was lost to me when he said that she fell in love with her husband...as if this was of any consequence for nobles marriages back then.

  • @crunchy3771
    @crunchy3771 Před 3 lety +7

    Wow! what a hero, used her power and fortune in the end to help the needy. What a delightful woman, thanks for the story!

  • @loisreese2692
    @loisreese2692 Před 2 lety

    Absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much.

  • @bettyjames4155
    @bettyjames4155 Před 3 lety

    Very interesting story! Thanks for sharing!

  • @deadflowerspirit258
    @deadflowerspirit258 Před 3 lety +41

    Yeah, they truly lost me on the whole "She's a Satanist" thing once they talked about the baby sacrificing bit.

    • @nightshadegatito
      @nightshadegatito Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, sacrificing babies is a basic human right. Back then, people weren’t as politically correct as now; baby sacrifice above one’s naked body was seen by the nobility as one of life’s little pleasures.

    • @ChrlMrsmamr
      @ChrlMrsmamr Před rokem

      ​@@nightshadegatito no

  • @hansmiller664
    @hansmiller664 Před 3 lety +5

    You are doing some quite fine research! Thank you very much for your really entertaining and interesting channel!🏆👍🌹
    In the realm of Mme de Montespan, how's about the second wife of Philippe, the brother of Louis XIV?
    Elisabeth Charlotte de Bavière, that inevitable German "Liselotte Von der Phaltz".
    Whenever you have the chance to read her letters (thousands!) or a biography, read it and you will either scream of laughter, or shed a year, what Terror it was to live at the French court at that time. Also quite dangerous, as you mentioned.
    THANK YOU!
    An average German from Cologne. 👍

  • @muffin6369
    @muffin6369 Před 2 lety

    You have a beautiful accent and pronunciation. Just great!

  • @JDG602
    @JDG602 Před 3 lety

    Great stuff.

  • @thebriannerplays8414
    @thebriannerplays8414 Před 3 lety +10

    I am actually glad I found this channel, it is exactly what I wanted to watch on CZcams !
    I just have one constructive comment to make: try to learn the actual pronunciation of the names, because it really is hard to follow what you are saying if, like I do, somebody who’s watching concentrates on how these names are actually pronounced.
    The sensation is that of playing a guitar while missing a string, it just isn’t right 🙌🏼

    • @ladyraven3418
      @ladyraven3418 Před 2 lety +2

      A native French speaker in the comments section, Sachae Forest, was complimenting him on his pronunciations. If you're a native French speaker, then please give good reason to refute that compliment.

    • @thebriannerplays8414
      @thebriannerplays8414 Před 2 lety

      @@ladyraven3418 I’m not a French native, I’m actually an Italian who studied French and got the Baccalaureate degree. I’m just saying that there are some mispronounced names interfering with the general rythm of the narration, so let’s just chill ✌🏻

  • @AlienSquidMonster
    @AlienSquidMonster Před 3 lety +12

    Doesn't really sound like the "dark life" more like the unfounded rumors.

  • @juliarogers2383
    @juliarogers2383 Před 3 lety

    Love your content

  • @joranvandersluis
    @joranvandersluis Před 3 lety

    fantastic channel. good narrators also.

  • @selinakyle_
    @selinakyle_ Před 3 lety +45

    She's by far my most favorite historical woman ever. Well one of them. But still she's had the most intriguing, mysterious and colorful life when it comes to historically famous women Imo. Whether she was a 'devil worshipper' (which I highly doubt was true) or not, she was a woman wise beyond her years who dedicated most of her life helping those in need and that's something I find to be very admirable.

    • @andreebesseau6995
      @andreebesseau6995 Před 3 lety +9

      Dont forget the poisonned gloves the black masses involving baby sacrifices etc.yes she was interesting.in the worse way

    • @RowanWarren78
      @RowanWarren78 Před 3 lety +15

      ​@@andreebesseau6995 Most historians agree that particular story to be a scandalous lie invented by her political enemies. This was very typical at the time. The one thing a woman truly possessed was her reputation. Rumors and lies about sex, witchcraft, poisoning, etc., were popular ways to destroy a woman's social standing at court, at the very least.

    • @RowanWarren78
      @RowanWarren78 Před 3 lety

      @Strong Woman Yes, Agreed!

  • @neitajames6029
    @neitajames6029 Před 3 lety +5

    Very interesting.👍💯💜👏👏👏🙂. I enjoyed this very much. Do make me wonder if she was innocent or guilty.🤔🤷‍♀️. Nevertheless I enjoyed hearing this story. Thank you love respect and positivity always neita james 🦋🌠🌻✨🖐

  • @lanacampbell-moore4549

    Thank You FL😁

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 Před 3 lety

    Great artwork.

  • @feralLove
    @feralLove Před 3 lety +13

    Dang, a whole lot of scandalous, romantic royal drama went down for the Madame and glad her life ended on a
    Positive note.

  • @suziwatkins5499
    @suziwatkins5499 Před 3 lety +8

    Excellent

  • @FlowerGirlMy
    @FlowerGirlMy Před 3 lety

    Very interesting and enjoyebal. Happy youtube has iIntelligen channels like yours. Than you 😊

  • @peterpansyndr0m
    @peterpansyndr0m Před 3 lety +4

    How you said Louis de La Tremouille made my day. 😭

  • @Ann_11
    @Ann_11 Před 3 lety +25

    Im impressed in how u pronounced the french names in the vid... brilliant!

  • @ashley_9286_
    @ashley_9286_ Před 3 lety +3

    💗💗💗 Fabulous and interesting case and presented so wonderfully

  • @LovePrettyNailsLady-Jay80

    Wow. I never thought I'd see hear of "devil worshipers" of the long forgotten. Thx for all your uploads and appreciate the work you put into these.